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Tmaster148
08/12/18 10:39:42 AM
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This topic would have been better if people weren't using it to defend Nazis/White Supremacist.
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Zodd3224
08/12/18 10:41:50 AM
#52:


Tmaster148 posted...
This topic would have been better if people weren't using it to defend Nazis/White Supremacist.


That is the main goal of Funbazooka's account. Well that and trolling.
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Nomadic View
08/12/18 10:42:50 AM
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Roshon
08/12/18 10:44:53 AM
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If cops acted differently this wouldnt be an issue. But we see how they have protected white supremacists all around the country while they cant be damned to have the same amount of care for other people.

People are sick of the current state of the country. Our law enforcement and government are protecting, and defending, white supremacists while they dont give a damn about anyone else.
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Sad_Face
08/12/18 10:45:02 AM
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So this is what they mean by the horseshoe theory?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory
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HiddenLurker
08/12/18 10:59:52 AM
#56:


Tmaster148 posted...
This topic would have been better if people weren't using it to defend Nazis/White Supremacist.

I know it is difficult for people that lack the ability to separate fantasy from reality but it is possible to hate both sides for what they represent or their actions.
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Hop103
08/12/18 11:00:52 AM
#57:


Funkydog posted...
gp1829 posted...
It's ok to both hate nazi's and violent members of antifa at the same time. It's not that complicated.


Pretty much, violence is not the answer.
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hockeybub89
08/12/18 11:05:58 AM
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Very fine people, on both sides

But seriously, I hope those people are arrested
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Ammonitida
08/12/18 11:40:01 AM
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Esrac posted...
This reminds me. Apparently Eric Clanton, the antifa professor who was cracking people over the head with a metal bike lock, got off basically scott free.


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ThanksUglyGod
08/12/18 11:46:07 AM
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Antifa do some pretty awful stuff, but they're still not as bad as Neo-Nazis who do a bunch of awful stuff.

Boy, that was hard!
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CyricZ
08/12/18 11:49:42 AM
#61:


ThanksUglyGod posted...
Antifa do some pretty awful stuff, but they're still not as bad as Neo-Nazis who do a bunch of awful stuff.

Boy, that was hard!

*fans you with a magazine*

Can't imagine how you could have pulled this off when it seems so hard for SO MANY other people.
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hockeybub89
08/12/18 11:51:01 AM
#62:


ThanksUglyGod posted...
Antifa do some pretty awful stuff, but they're still not as bad as Neo-Nazis who do a bunch of awful stuff.

Boy, that was hard!

No, man. You have to call them equally bad despite that being demonstrably untrue or you're defending them! You aren't allowed to have tiers of awfulness.
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ANewLeaf
08/12/18 11:53:14 AM
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imagine defending supremacists like this
this is what is wrong in society
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X-Pac_Heat
08/12/18 11:54:40 AM
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Imagine seeing shit like this and immediately being like "Well, they're still not as bad as neo nazis!"

If that is where your mind goes to first, you really need to re-evaluate your fucking existence.
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darkjedilink
08/12/18 11:54:46 AM
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Tmaster148 posted...
This topic would have been better if people weren't using it to defend Nazis/White Supremacist.

Who's defending them, exactly?
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darkjedilink
08/12/18 11:55:46 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
ThanksUglyGod posted...
Antifa do some pretty awful stuff, but they're still not as bad as Neo-Nazis who do a bunch of awful stuff.

Boy, that was hard!

No, man. You have to call them equally bad despite that being demonstrably untrue or you're defending them! You aren't allowed to have tiers of awfulness.

How many times in the past 5 years have white supremacists made the national news?
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King_Hellebuyck
08/12/18 11:55:51 AM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Fin_Dawg_004 posted...
That is not okay. Who do those idiots think they're helping?

That is a problem with groups like antifa - they can attract rabble rousers or people who just want to fuck shit up without any goals.


Yep, there's always going to be issues when you have people looking to cause trouble specifically come to these things. That's why you need to watch the full live streams from people there, because the vast majority don't engage in this type of nonsense

Yeah exactly. Hard to tell if the people committing random acts of violence are even trying to gain anything or if theyre just trying to fuck shit up.
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Inferno Dive Dragoon
08/12/18 11:59:38 AM
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Meh, same shit both sides, what else is new.
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Villain
08/12/18 12:00:43 PM
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I mean, I'll update this list if they actually killed someone:

Americans killed by the Alt Right/Nazis in 2017:

Heather Heyer
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/13/us/charlottesville-heather-heyer-profile/index.html

Taliesin Namkai Meche
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/05/max_stabbing_victim_attended_r_1.html#incart_big-photo

Ricky Best
http://taskandpurpose.com/ricky-best-one-2-men-killed-portland-stabbing-army-veteran/

Richard Collins III
https://www.thenation.com/article/lynching-university-maryland-campus/

Timothy Caughman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stabbing_of_Timothy_Caughman

Srinivas Kuchibhotla
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Olathe,_Kansas_shooting

Casey Marquez & Francisco Fernandez
https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-mexico-school-shooter-had-secret-life-on-pro-trump-white-supremacy-sites

Charles Davis
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/10/23/alt-righter-seattle4truth-charged-killing-father-over-conspiracy-theories

Officer Zackari Parrish
http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/01/us/colorado-shooting-suspect-military-record/index.html

Buckley Kuhn-Fricker & Scott Fricker
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/teen-charged-with-killing-girlfriends-parents-they-had-worried-he-was-a-neo-nazi/2017/12/23/e2102894-e761-11e7-833f-155031558ff4_story.html?utm_term=.32ba34f2ae29

Ibrahima Barry, Mamadou Tanou Barry, Khaled Belkacemi, Aboubaker Thabti, Abdelkrim Hassane, and Azzedine Soufiane
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_City_mosque_shooting
These victims are Canadian but the killer follows the ideology of the alt right

Americans killed by Antifa in 2017:

Americans killed by the Alt Right/Nazis in 2018:

Blaze Bernstein
https://www.haaretz.com/blaze-bernstein-murder-suspect-displayed-hate-on-social-media-1.5751372

The 17 Victims of the Stoneman Douglas High School Shooting:
Alyssa Alhadeff, Scott Beigel, Martin Duque, Nicholas Dworet, Aaron Feis, Jaime Guttenberg,
Chris Hixon, Luke Hoyer, Cara Loughran, Gina Montalto, Joaquin Oliver, Alaina Petty,
Meadow Pollack, Helena Ramsay, Alex Schachter, Carmen Schentrup, and Peter Wang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoneman_Douglas_High_School_shooting

The 10 Victims of the Santa Fe High School Shooting:
Jared Conard Black, Shana Fisher, Christian Riley Garcia, Aaron Kyle McLeod, Glenda Anne Perkins,
Angelique Ramirez, Sabika Sheikh, Christopher Stone, Cynthia Tisdale, and Kimberly Vaughan
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/05/18/612286146/shooting-reported-at-high-school-near-houston

Sherell L. Lewis Jr
https://nypost.com/2018/05/31/motorist-brags-about-running-over-some-n-r-on-snapchat/

The 5 Victims of the Annapolis Capital Shooting
Gerald Fischman, Rob Hiaasen, John McNamara, Rebecca Smith, and Wendi Winters
https://bluestatedaily.com/accused-annapolis-shooter-jarrod-ramos-was-inspired-by-the-alt-right-report/

Americans killed by Antifa in 2018:
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Anarchy_Juiblex
08/12/18 12:04:44 PM
#72:


Villain posted...
Americans killed by Antifa in 2018:


I like how you have to parse it into a specific organization/years/country/etc because you know that Leftist terrorism (communism) is the 2nd most cause for global terrorism, after Islamic terrorism.
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CyricZ
08/12/18 12:06:04 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Villain posted...
Americans killed by Antifa in 2018:


I like how you have to parse it into a specific organization/years/country/etc because you know that Leftist terrorism (communism) is the 2nd most cause for global terrorism, after Islamic terrorism.

Has anyone seen the goalposts? They were right here a second ago.

And Villain I might have to nick that.
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SuperMedz3
08/12/18 12:07:26 PM
#74:


color me surprise
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Patchwork
08/12/18 12:08:14 PM
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Roshon posted...
If cops acted differently this wouldnt be an issue. But we see how they have protected white supremacists all around the country while they cant be damned to have the same amount of care for other people.

People are sick of the current state of the country. Our law enforcement and government are protecting, and defending, white supremacists while they dont give a damn about anyone else.


It's our job to protect people lawfully assembling. If you have an issue with white sepremacists being able to assemble, you should write your congressman.

In the meantime, I'll stand between both sides, be hated by both sides, and do my job.

I protect people who obey the law.

Your political opinion means shit to me.
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hockeybub89
08/12/18 12:11:20 PM
#76:


darkjedilink posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
ThanksUglyGod posted...
Antifa do some pretty awful stuff, but they're still not as bad as Neo-Nazis who do a bunch of awful stuff.

Boy, that was hard!

No, man. You have to call them equally bad despite that being demonstrably untrue or you're defending them! You aren't allowed to have tiers of awfulness.

How many times in the past 5 years have white supremacists made the national news?

How many people has Antifa killed?

Anyway
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism#United_States
https://www.adl.org/heat-map
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File%3AExtremist_murders_US.png?wprov=sfla1
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Anarchy_Juiblex
08/12/18 12:11:22 PM
#77:


CyricZ posted...
Has anyone seen the goalposts? They were right here a second ago.


Excuse me, what was my original point here?
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hockeybub89
08/12/18 12:12:28 PM
#78:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Villain posted...
Americans killed by Antifa in 2018:


I like how you have to parse it into a specific organization/years/country/etc because you know that Leftist terrorism (communism) is the 2nd most cause for global terrorism, after Islamic terrorism.

How many lives have communist terrorists claimed in America in the past 10 years?
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Bishop9800
08/12/18 12:22:21 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
I like how you have to parse it into a specific organization/years/country/etc because you know that Leftist terrorism (communism) is the 2nd most cause for global terrorism, after Islamic terrorism.


Do you have a source for that?

Plus can someone post another article on this event? I can't find it online except on The Daily Caller. And we all know they are bias.
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Ammonitida
08/12/18 12:57:13 PM
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Villain posted...



There's bogus information on that list.

Taliesin Namkai Meche and Ricky Best were killed by a left-wing "berniebro" who hated all organized religion because they "killed his pagan ancestors". Ergo, his hate for Islam was not rooted in alt-right/Nazi ideology as the MSM tried to portray. He also regularly retweeted anti-racist memes on his facebook account and once engaged in a psyop at a conservative rally to paint Trump supporters as racist, later calling them "peckerwood hillbillies pretending they ain't racist" on his now deleted Facebook. Yeah, that sounds very "alt-right". Ironically, the far left media used this stunt of his as proof that he was a "Nazi".

The 5 Victims of the Annapolis Capital Shooting


There's no evidence that this guy was associated with the alt-right or sympathized with such people. None is provided in the link you cite either. I read everything on his twitter before it was deleted. He had a single minded obsession with that one newspaper that went back years before the "alt-right" was even a thing.

The 10 Victims of the Santa Fe High School Shooting:


Ditto for this guy. No evidence that he was "alt-right" or a "Nazi".

Officer Zackari Parrish


That's a stretch. Shall I list the three cops who were killed in 2017 by two black men who espoused BLM rhetoric on social media?

Here's one

https://heavy.com/news/2017/08/everett-glenn-miller-kissimmee-glen-suspect-police-shot-shooting-matthew-baxter-sam-howard-photos-facebook/

Sherell L. Lewis Jr


A car accident that only made the national news because the teen made racist comments on social media. Wow.

Americans killed by Antifa in 2018:


Why limit this to "antifa" specifically when you are contrasting them with something as broad as the "alt-right"?

How would you classify these 2017 murders?

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2017/04/13/deters-provide-update-jamie-urton-death-investigation/100411564/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Fresno_shootings

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/man-charged-in-deadly-queen-anne-stabbing-could-face-third-strike/
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Villain
08/12/18 1:13:50 PM
#83:


Ammonitida posted...
Taliesin Namkai Meche and Ricky Best were killed by a left-wing "berniebro"


This has been debunked multiple times. He "liked" Bernie Sanders on Facebook but is an admitted Trump supporter.

Ammonitida posted...
The 5 Victims of the Annapolis Capital Shooting

Admitted Trump Supporter and follower of alt right ideologies

Ammonitida posted...
The 10 Victims of the Santa Fe High School Shooting:

Follower of alt right ideologies

Ammonitida posted...
That's a stretch. Shall I list the three cops who were killed in 2017 by two black men who espoused BLM rhetoric on social media?


Guy broke off from BLM and BLM condemned him. Try again

Ammonitida posted...
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2017/04/13/deters-provide-update-jamie-urton-death-investigation/100411564/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Fresno_shootings

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/man-charged-in-deadly-queen-anne-stabbing-could-face-third-strike/


Gang violence =/= political violence. This is an often used, weak tactic to deflect the danger of the alt right.
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HiddenLurker
08/12/18 1:42:54 PM
#84:


ClunkerSlim posted...
There's always going to be crazy people on both sides. But that doesn't somehow make the alt-right morally superior.

Literally nobody is saying this.
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DarkProto05
08/12/18 1:48:55 PM
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Maybe they feared for their lives. Self-defense is fine.
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hockeybub89
08/12/18 1:50:41 PM
#86:


Maybe they thought the cop was a Nazi not letting them run away.
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Ammonitida
08/12/18 1:50:43 PM
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This has been debunked multiple times. He "liked" Bernie Sanders on Facebook but is an admitted Trump supporter.


This is false. He was a "berniebro" and mostly left-wing in ideology. In one Facebook post, he even fantasized about a United States where racists of all colors were segregated from the "normal", non-racist people like him -- a post that was selectively edited by the Washington Post to falsely portray him as a white nationalist. Yeah, that rag published literal fake news. Further, he only "supported" Trump after the election on the condition that he could join him in purging the world's organized religions (including Christianity), which is certainly not alt-right and not something that Trump stands for.

Admitted Trump Supporter and follower of alt right ideologies


Fabrication. He never admitted to supporting any president.

Follower of alt right ideologies


Also false.

Guy broke off from BLM and BLM condemned him. Try again


You're confused. That link has nothing to do with the Dallas massacre of 2016. Try again.

Gang violence =/= political violence.


None of those involved "gang violence". Those involved racially motivated hate crimes.

This is an often used, weak tactic to deflect the danger of the alt right.


I guess this doesn't count because no one died, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting
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Webmaster4531
08/12/18 1:52:55 PM
#88:


HiddenLurker posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
There's always going to be crazy people on both sides. But that doesn't somehow make the alt-right morally superior.

Literally nobody would admit saying this.

FTFY
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HiddenLurker
08/12/18 1:55:55 PM
#89:


Webmaster4531 posted...
HiddenLurker posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
There's always going to be crazy people on both sides. But that doesn't somehow make the alt-right morally superior.

Literally nobody saying this.

FTFY

Fix for the actual truth.
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Webmaster4531
08/12/18 1:57:06 PM
#90:


HiddenLurker posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
HiddenLurker posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
There's always going to be crazy people on both sides. But that doesn't somehow make the alt-right morally superior.

Literally nobody would admit saying this.

FTFY

Fix for the actual truth.

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Funbazooka
08/12/18 3:26:14 PM
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Antifa sympathizers upset that Antifa are exposed as dangerous fascists with alarming regularity.

I wouldn't expect anything less.
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Kazi1212
08/12/18 3:30:25 PM
#93:


Funbazooka posted...
Antifa sympathizers upset that Antifa are exposed as dangerous fascists with alarming regularity.

I wouldn't expect anything less.


Yep, look at how not one of thee usual suspects that posted in this topic condemned what happened but instead kept posting strawmans and ad hominems, its pretty pathetic.
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King_Hellebuyck
08/12/18 3:40:31 PM
#94:


Kazi1212 posted...
Funbazooka posted...
Antifa sympathizers upset that Antifa are exposed as dangerous fascists with alarming regularity.

I wouldn't expect anything less.


Yep, look at how not one of thee usual suspects that posted in this topic condemned what happened but instead kept posting strawmans and ad hominems, its pretty pathetic.

Its funny when two gimmicks high five like this in a topic where everyone can see that theyre lying
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iPhone_7
08/12/18 3:45:09 PM
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I remember seeing the local reporting on the BLM marches over in Berkeley like two years ago.

The protest was peaceful but the reporter started noticing some people dressed in black hoodies scattered randomly throughout the crowd. When the camera moved to focus on a small group of them on the sidewalk, they noticed and hurried to cover their faces and ran into the crowd. The news crew shortly after got like two rocks thrown at them and they said they were gonna move because of harassment by some trouble makers. Nicer way of saying anarchists
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Funbazooka
08/12/18 3:45:10 PM
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Keep digging that hole.
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darkjedilink
08/12/18 5:15:17 PM
#97:


ClunkerSlim posted...
There's always going to be crazy people on both sides. But that doesn't somehow make the alt-right morally superior.

Who the fuck is arguing that the 'alt-right' is morally superior?
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King_Hellebuyck
08/12/18 5:16:56 PM
#98:


darkjedilink posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
There's always going to be crazy people on both sides. But that doesn't somehow make the alt-right morally superior.

Who the fuck is arguing that the 'alt-right' is morally superior?

So your stance is that the alt right is morally wrong?
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darkjedilink
08/12/18 5:29:30 PM
#99:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
darkjedilink posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
There's always going to be crazy people on both sides. But that doesn't somehow make the alt-right morally superior.

Who the fuck is arguing that the 'alt-right' is morally superior?

So your stance is that the alt right is morally wrong?

Yes, just like BLM and Antifa.

Now, answer the question.
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King_Hellebuyck
08/12/18 5:29:46 PM
#100:


darkjedilink posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
darkjedilink posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
There's always going to be crazy people on both sides. But that doesn't somehow make the alt-right morally superior.

Who the fuck is arguing that the 'alt-right' is morally superior?

So your stance is that the alt right is morally wrong?

Yes, just like BLM and Antifa.

Now, answer the question.

No
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darkjedilink
08/12/18 5:30:52 PM
#101:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
darkjedilink posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
darkjedilink posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
There's always going to be crazy people on both sides. But that doesn't somehow make the alt-right morally superior.

Who the fuck is arguing that the 'alt-right' is morally superior?

So your stance is that the alt right is morally wrong?

Yes, just like BLM and Antifa.

Now, answer the question.

No

Why not?
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