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voldothegr8 08/10/18 9:47:57 PM #51:	gp1829 posted... I don't recall Mal making any topics about Alt righters running people down in cars. Do you literally spend all your time looking for videos and things to try to paint the left in a negative light? You should probably get a life. Mal isn't needed to paint the left in a negative light, they do a fine job on their own. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 5 (3) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:906662539] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>gp1829 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't recall Mal making any topics about Alt righters running people down in cars. Do you literally spend all your time looking for videos and things to try to paint the left in a negative light? You should probably get a life.</quote> Mal isn't needed to paint the left in a negative light, they do a fine job on their own.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/10/18 9:50:28 PM #52:	Mal loves his alternative facts. This is why he believes Dinesh D'Souza's alt-history of "The Nazis had socialism in their name and socialism is left, therefore the left is bad. It's so obvious that the Nazis were far-leftist that I'm one of the only people pushing this narrative". --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:906662658] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote>Mal loves his alternative facts. This is why he believes Dinesh D'Souza's alt-history of "The Nazis had socialism in their name and socialism is left, therefore the left is bad. It's so obvious that the Nazis were far-leftist that I'm one of the only people pushing this narrative".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
silentwing26x 08/10/18 9:56:50 PM #53:	It's really weird how radical leftists deflect to Dinesh D'Souza of all people <cite>silentwing26x posted [p:906662963] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote>It's really weird how radical leftists deflect to Dinesh D'Souza of all people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 08/10/18 9:58:11 PM #54:	https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/ For members of the Nazi Party, in fact, defending socialism on its own terms was a risky activity which could result in ejection from the party, or worse. Of party leader and dissenter Otto Strasser (whose similarly-minded brother, Gregor, would ultimately be assassinated by the Nazis), William Shirer writes: Unfortunately for him, he had taken seriously not only the word socialist but the word workers in the partys official name of National Socialist German Workers Party. He had supported certain strikes of the socialist trade unions and demanded that the party come out for nationalization of industry. This of course was heresy to Hitler, who accused Otto Strasser of professing the cardinal sins of democracy and liberalism. On May 21 and 22, 1930, the Fuehrer had a showdown with his rebellious subordinate and demanded complete submission. When Otto refused, he was booted out of the party. ... The plain truth, writes Historian Richard J. Evans in The Coming of the Third Reich, was that Hitler and his party saw socialism, communism, and leftism generally as inimical to everything they hoped to achieve: Despite the change of name, however, it would be wrong to see Nazism as a form of, or an outgrowth from, socialism. True, as some have pointed out, its rhetoric was frequently egalitarian, it stressed the need to put common needs above the needs of the individual, and it often declared itself opposed to big business and international finance capital. Famously, too, anti-Semitism was once declared to be the socialism of fools. But from the very beginning, Hitler declared himself implacably opposed to Social Democracy and, initially to a much smaller extent, Communism: after all, the November traitors who had signed the Armistice and later the Treaty of Versailles were not Communists at all, but the Social Democrats. https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/04/capitalism-and-nazism/ Luckily, Suresh Naidu, the kick-ass economist at Columbia, supplied me with the following graphs. This first one, which comes from Thomas Pikettys Capital in the Twenty-First Century, compares the share of national income that went to capital in the US and in Germany between 1929 and 1938. Suresh tells me that the share roughly tracks capitals rate of return. Long story short: capital was doing better under the Nazis than under FDR. Not because of overall increases in economic performance in one country versus another, but because of the economic policies of the regime. Or so Suresh tells me. I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise? --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:906663022] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote>https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/ <quote>For members of the Nazi Party, in fact, defending socialism on its own terms was a risky activity which could result in ejection from the party, or worse. Of party leader and dissenter Otto Strasser (whose similarly-minded brother, Gregor, would ultimately be assassinated by the Nazis), William Shirer writes: Unfortunately for him, he had taken seriously not only the word socialist but the word workers in the partys official name of National Socialist German Workers Party. He had supported certain strikes of the socialist trade unions and demanded that the party come out for nationalization of industry. This of course was heresy to Hitler, who accused Otto Strasser of professing the cardinal sins of democracy and liberalism. On May 21 and 22, 1930, the Fuehrer had a showdown with his rebellious subordinate and demanded complete submission. When Otto refused, he was booted out of the party. ... The plain truth, writes Historian Richard J. Evans in The Coming of the Third Reich, was that Hitler and his party saw socialism, communism, and leftism generally as inimical to everything they hoped to achieve: Despite the change of name, however, it would be wrong to see Nazism as a form of, or an outgrowth from, socialism. True, as some have pointed out, its rhetoric was frequently egalitarian, it stressed the need to put common needs above the needs of the individual, and it often declared itself opposed to big business and international finance capital. Famously, too, anti-Semitism was once declared to be the socialism of fools. But from the very beginning, Hitler declared himself implacably opposed to Social Democracy and, initially to a much smaller extent, Communism: after all, the November traitors who had signed the Armistice and later the Treaty of Versailles were not Communists at all, but the Social Democrats.</quote> https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/04/capitalism-and-nazism/ <quote>Luckily, Suresh Naidu, the kick-ass economist at Columbia, supplied me with the following graphs. This first one, which comes from Thomas Pikettys Capital in the Twenty-First Century, compares the share of national income that went to capital in the US and in Germany between 1929 and 1938. Suresh tells me that the share roughly tracks capitals rate of return. Long story short: capital was doing better under the Nazis than under FDR. Not because of overall increases in economic performance in one country versus another, but because of the economic policies of the regime. Or so Suresh tells me. </quote> I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/10/18 10:00:25 PM #55:	silentwing26x posted... It's really weird how radical leftists deflect to Dinesh D'Souza of all people What? I'm not radical and Mal literally gets his Nazi alt-history from D'Souza. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:906663141] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote>It's really weird how radical leftists deflect to Dinesh D'Souza of all people</quote> What? I'm not radical and Mal literally gets his Nazi alt-history from D'Souza.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 08/10/18 10:01:32 PM #57:	Antifar posted... https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/ For members of the Nazi Party, in fact, defending socialism on its own terms was a risky activity which could result in ejection from the party, or worse. Of party leader and dissenter Otto Strasser (whose similarly-minded brother, Gregor, would ultimately be assassinated by the Nazis), William Shirer writes: Unfortunately for him, he had taken seriously not only the word socialist but the word workers in the partys official name of National Socialist German Workers Party. He had supported certain strikes of the socialist trade unions and demanded that the party come out for nationalization of industry. This of course was heresy to Hitler, who accused Otto Strasser of professing the cardinal sins of democracy and liberalism. On May 21 and 22, 1930, the Fuehrer had a showdown with his rebellious subordinate and demanded complete submission. When Otto refused, he was booted out of the party. ... The plain truth, writes Historian Richard J. Evans in The Coming of the Third Reich, was that Hitler and his party saw socialism, communism, and leftism generally as inimical to everything they hoped to achieve: Despite the change of name, however, it would be wrong to see Nazism as a form of, or an outgrowth from, socialism. True, as some have pointed out, its rhetoric was frequently egalitarian, it stressed the need to put common needs above the needs of the individual, and it often declared itself opposed to big business and international finance capital. Famously, too, anti-Semitism was once declared to be the socialism of fools. But from the very beginning, Hitler declared himself implacably opposed to Social Democracy and, initially to a much smaller extent, Communism: after all, the November traitors who had signed the Armistice and later the Treaty of Versailles were not Communists at all, but the Social Democrats. https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/04/capitalism-and-nazism/ Luckily, Suresh Naidu, the kick-ass economist at Columbia, supplied me with the following graphs. This first one, which comes from Thomas Pikettys Capital in the Twenty-First Century, compares the share of national income that went to capital in the US and in Germany between 1929 and 1938. Suresh tells me that the share roughly tracks capitals rate of return. Long story short: capital was doing better under the Nazis than under FDR. Not because of overall increases in economic performance in one country versus another, but because of the economic policies of the regime. Or so Suresh tells me. I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise? They all explicitly state how Nazis were socialist.... --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:906663195] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/ <quote>For members of the Nazi Party, in fact, defending socialism on its own terms was a risky activity which could result in ejection from the party, or worse. Of party leader and dissenter Otto Strasser (whose similarly-minded brother, Gregor, would ultimately be assassinated by the Nazis), William Shirer writes: Unfortunately for him, he had taken seriously not only the word socialist but the word workers in the partys official name of National Socialist German Workers Party. He had supported certain strikes of the socialist trade unions and demanded that the party come out for nationalization of industry. This of course was heresy to Hitler, who accused Otto Strasser of professing the cardinal sins of democracy and liberalism. On May 21 and 22, 1930, the Fuehrer had a showdown with his rebellious subordinate and demanded complete submission. When Otto refused, he was booted out of the party. ... The plain truth, writes Historian Richard J. Evans in The Coming of the Third Reich, was that Hitler and his party saw socialism, communism, and leftism generally as inimical to everything they hoped to achieve: Despite the change of name, however, it would be wrong to see Nazism as a form of, or an outgrowth from, socialism. True, as some have pointed out, its rhetoric was frequently egalitarian, it stressed the need to put common needs above the needs of the individual, and it often declared itself opposed to big business and international finance capital. Famously, too, anti-Semitism was once declared to be the socialism of fools. But from the very beginning, Hitler declared himself implacably opposed to Social Democracy and, initially to a much smaller extent, Communism: after all, the November traitors who had signed the Armistice and later the Treaty of Versailles were not Communists at all, but the Social Democrats.</quote> https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/04/capitalism-and-nazism/ <quote>Luckily, Suresh Naidu, the kick-ass economist at Columbia, supplied me with the following graphs. This first one, which comes from Thomas Pikettys Capital in the Twenty-First Century, compares the share of national income that went to capital in the US and in Germany between 1929 and 1938. Suresh tells me that the share roughly tracks capitals rate of return. Long story short: capital was doing better under the Nazis than under FDR. Not because of overall increases in economic performance in one country versus another, but because of the economic policies of the regime. Or so Suresh tells me. </quote> I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise?</quote> They all explicitly state how Nazis were socialist....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/10/18 10:07:16 PM #58:	darkjedilink posted... Antifar posted... https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/ For members of the Nazi Party, in fact, defending socialism on its own terms was a risky activity which could result in ejection from the party, or worse. Of party leader and dissenter Otto Strasser (whose similarly-minded brother, Gregor, would ultimately be assassinated by the Nazis), William Shirer writes: Unfortunately for him, he had taken seriously not only the word socialist but the word workers in the partys official name of National Socialist German Workers Party. He had supported certain strikes of the socialist trade unions and demanded that the party come out for nationalization of industry. This of course was heresy to Hitler, who accused Otto Strasser of professing the cardinal sins of democracy and liberalism. On May 21 and 22, 1930, the Fuehrer had a showdown with his rebellious subordinate and demanded complete submission. When Otto refused, he was booted out of the party. ... The plain truth, writes Historian Richard J. Evans in The Coming of the Third Reich, was that Hitler and his party saw socialism, communism, and leftism generally as inimical to everything they hoped to achieve: Despite the change of name, however, it would be wrong to see Nazism as a form of, or an outgrowth from, socialism. True, as some have pointed out, its rhetoric was frequently egalitarian, it stressed the need to put common needs above the needs of the individual, and it often declared itself opposed to big business and international finance capital. Famously, too, anti-Semitism was once declared to be the socialism of fools. But from the very beginning, Hitler declared himself implacably opposed to Social Democracy and, initially to a much smaller extent, Communism: after all, the November traitors who had signed the Armistice and later the Treaty of Versailles were not Communists at all, but the Social Democrats. https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/04/capitalism-and-nazism/ Luckily, Suresh Naidu, the kick-ass economist at Columbia, supplied me with the following graphs. This first one, which comes from Thomas Pikettys Capital in the Twenty-First Century, compares the share of national income that went to capital in the US and in Germany between 1929 and 1938. Suresh tells me that the share roughly tracks capitals rate of return. Long story short: capital was doing better under the Nazis than under FDR. Not because of overall increases in economic performance in one country versus another, but because of the economic policies of the regime. Or so Suresh tells me. I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise? They all explicitly state how Nazis were socialist.... Vladimir Putin calls himself a democratically elected Preisdent. China and North Korea say they are of the people. The Congo says it is Democratic. It's almost like people can lie for their own gain. Yes, that link does say the Nazis put socialist in their name, but the proof is in the pudding and it has been widely accepted for a very long time that the Nazis were a far-right, fascist regime. Silly authors that want to prove how evil the left is aren't going to change that. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:906663465] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/ <quote>For members of the Nazi Party, in fact, defending socialism on its own terms was a risky activity which could result in ejection from the party, or worse. Of party leader and dissenter Otto Strasser (whose similarly-minded brother, Gregor, would ultimately be assassinated by the Nazis), William Shirer writes: Unfortunately for him, he had taken seriously not only the word socialist but the word workers in the partys official name of National Socialist German Workers Party. He had supported certain strikes of the socialist trade unions and demanded that the party come out for nationalization of industry. This of course was heresy to Hitler, who accused Otto Strasser of professing the cardinal sins of democracy and liberalism. On May 21 and 22, 1930, the Fuehrer had a showdown with his rebellious subordinate and demanded complete submission. When Otto refused, he was booted out of the party. ... The plain truth, writes Historian Richard J. Evans in The Coming of the Third Reich, was that Hitler and his party saw socialism, communism, and leftism generally as inimical to everything they hoped to achieve: Despite the change of name, however, it would be wrong to see Nazism as a form of, or an outgrowth from, socialism. True, as some have pointed out, its rhetoric was frequently egalitarian, it stressed the need to put common needs above the needs of the individual, and it often declared itself opposed to big business and international finance capital. Famously, too, anti-Semitism was once declared to be the socialism of fools. But from the very beginning, Hitler declared himself implacably opposed to Social Democracy and, initially to a much smaller extent, Communism: after all, the November traitors who had signed the Armistice and later the Treaty of Versailles were not Communists at all, but the Social Democrats.</quote> https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/04/capitalism-and-nazism/ <quote>Luckily, Suresh Naidu, the kick-ass economist at Columbia, supplied me with the following graphs. This first one, which comes from Thomas Pikettys Capital in the Twenty-First Century, compares the share of national income that went to capital in the US and in Germany between 1929 and 1938. Suresh tells me that the share roughly tracks capitals rate of return. Long story short: capital was doing better under the Nazis than under FDR. Not because of overall increases in economic performance in one country versus another, but because of the economic policies of the regime. Or so Suresh tells me. </quote> I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise?</quote> They all explicitly state how Nazis were socialist....</quote> Vladimir Putin calls himself a democratically elected Preisdent. China and North Korea say they are of the people. The Congo says it is Democratic. It's almost like people can lie for their own gain. Yes, that link does say the Nazis put socialist in their name, but the proof is in the pudding and it has been widely accepted for a very long time that the Nazis were a far-right, fascist regime. Silly authors that want to prove how evil the left is aren't going to change that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/10/18 10:08:34 PM #59:	Antifar posted... I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise? Literally nothing you posted refutes how the Nazi party had de facto control over "private" German companies. And that's enough "but Nazis" deflection out of you as well for this topic. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:906663544] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise?</quote> Literally nothing you posted refutes how the Nazi party had de facto control over "private" German companies. And that's enough "but Nazis" deflection out of you as well for this topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
silentwing26x 08/10/18 10:09:06 PM #60:	CrimsonRage posted... mal checks under his bed for antifa before he goes to sleep Why are you downplaying domestic terrorism? <cite>silentwing26x posted [p:906663564] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>CrimsonRage posted...</cite> <quote>mal checks under his bed for antifa before he goes to sleep</quote> Why are you downplaying domestic terrorism?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/10/18 10:10:44 PM #61:	silentwing26x posted... CrimsonRage posted... mal checks under his bed for antifa before he goes to sleep Why are you downplaying domestic terrorism? Yeah, why do conservative shitposters downplay the far-right terrorists that have been killing for decades? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:906663642] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CrimsonRage posted...</cite> <quote>mal checks under his bed for antifa before he goes to sleep</quote> Why are you downplaying domestic terrorism?</quote> Yeah, why do conservative shitposters downplay the far-right terrorists that have been killing for decades?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
silentwing26x 08/10/18 10:11:12 PM #62:	hockeybub89 posted... silentwing26x posted... CrimsonRage posted... mal checks under his bed for antifa before he goes to sleep Why are you downplaying domestic terrorism? Yeah, why do conservative shitposters downplay the far-right terrorists that have been killing for decades? I haven't seen any conservative on CE downplay terrorism of any kind. <cite>silentwing26x posted [p:906663665] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CrimsonRage posted...</cite> <quote>mal checks under his bed for antifa before he goes to sleep</quote> Why are you downplaying domestic terrorism?</quote> Yeah, why do conservative shitposters downplay the far-right terrorists that have been killing for decades?</quote> I haven't seen any conservative on CE downplay terrorism of any kind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/10/18 10:12:07 PM #63:	Sephiroth1288 posted... Antifar posted... I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise? Literally nothing you posted refutes how the Nazi party had de facto control over "private" German companies. And that's enough "but Nazis" deflection out of you as well for this topic. I heard socialism can't work. Why was Nazi Germany's economy thriving under the Third Reich? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:906663709] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise?</quote> Literally nothing you posted refutes how the Nazi party had de facto control over "private" German companies. And that's enough "but Nazis" deflection out of you as well for this topic.</quote> I heard socialism can't work. Why was Nazi Germany's economy thriving under the Third Reich?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/10/18 10:13:15 PM #64:	silentwing26x posted... hockeybub89 posted... silentwing26x posted... CrimsonRage posted... mal checks under his bed for antifa before he goes to sleep Why are you downplaying domestic terrorism? Yeah, why do conservative shitposters downplay the far-right terrorists that have been killing for decades? I haven't seen any conservative on CE downplay terrorism of any kind. There must be a glitch in the text-to-speech software you use to read the Internet. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:906663776] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CrimsonRage posted...</cite> <quote>mal checks under his bed for antifa before he goes to sleep</quote> Why are you downplaying domestic terrorism?</quote> Yeah, why do conservative shitposters downplay the far-right terrorists that have been killing for decades?</quote> I haven't seen any conservative on CE downplay terrorism of any kind.</quote> There must be a glitch in the text-to-speech software you use to read the Internet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
silentwing26x 08/10/18 10:13:53 PM #65:	hockeybub89 posted... silentwing26x posted... hockeybub89 posted... silentwing26x posted... CrimsonRage posted... mal checks under his bed for antifa before he goes to sleep Why are you downplaying domestic terrorism? Yeah, why do conservative shitposters downplay the far-right terrorists that have been killing for decades? I haven't seen any conservative on CE downplay terrorism of any kind. There must be a glitch in the text-to-speech software you use to read the Internet. someone just downplayed domestic terrorism and all you had as a response was whataboutism there must be a glitch in your thought process, buddy <cite>silentwing26x posted [p:906663801] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CrimsonRage posted...</cite> <quote>mal checks under his bed for antifa before he goes to sleep</quote> Why are you downplaying domestic terrorism?</quote> Yeah, why do conservative shitposters downplay the far-right terrorists that have been killing for decades?</quote> I haven't seen any conservative on CE downplay terrorism of any kind.</quote> There must be a glitch in the text-to-speech software you use to read the Internet.</quote> someone just downplayed domestic terrorism and all you had as a response was whataboutism there must be a glitch in your thought process, buddy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kayoticdreamz 08/10/18 10:14:04 PM #66:	I love threads like these. If a conservative does something violent, the liberals usually by post 2, no later than post 5, are hurling insults at the person with reckless abandon. a violent left wing group does something violent? no insults from the liberals even by post 15. And what little there is, is very tame in comparison. <cite>kayoticdreamz posted [p:906663806] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote>I love threads like these. If a conservative does something violent, the liberals usually by post 2, no later than post 5, are hurling insults at the person with reckless abandon. a violent left wing group does something violent? no insults from the liberals even by post 15. And what little there is, is very tame in comparison.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/10/18 10:14:51 PM #67:	silentwing26x posted... hockeybub89 posted... silentwing26x posted... hockeybub89 posted... silentwing26x posted... CrimsonRage posted... mal checks under his bed for antifa before he goes to sleep Why are you downplaying domestic terrorism? Yeah, why do conservative shitposters downplay the far-right terrorists that have been killing for decades? I haven't seen any conservative on CE downplay terrorism of any kind. There must be a glitch in the text-to-speech software you use to read the Internet. someone just downplayed domestic terrorism and all you had as a response was whataboutism there must be a glitch in your thought process, buddy Sorry. I just hate moral grandstanding from hypocrites. Isn't there enough of that on the news networks? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:906663834] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CrimsonRage posted...</cite> <quote>mal checks under his bed for antifa before he goes to sleep</quote> Why are you downplaying domestic terrorism?</quote> Yeah, why do conservative shitposters downplay the far-right terrorists that have been killing for decades?</quote> I haven't seen any conservative on CE downplay terrorism of any kind.</quote> There must be a glitch in the text-to-speech software you use to read the Internet.</quote> someone just downplayed domestic terrorism and all you had as a response was whataboutism there must be a glitch in your thought process, buddy</quote> Sorry. I just hate moral grandstanding from hypocrites. Isn't there enough of that on the news networks?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/10/18 10:15:27 PM #68:	hockeybub89 posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... Antifar posted... I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise? Literally nothing you posted refutes how the Nazi party had de facto control over "private" German companies. And that's enough "but Nazis" deflection out of you as well for this topic. I heard socialism can't work. Why was Nazi Germany's economy thriving under the Third Reich? Same reason the USSR started off strong. It's great until you run out of other people's money and the gulag labor starts slipping. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:906663860] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise?</quote> Literally nothing you posted refutes how the Nazi party had de facto control over "private" German companies. And that's enough "but Nazis" deflection out of you as well for this topic.</quote> I heard socialism can't work. Why was Nazi Germany's economy thriving under the Third Reich?</quote> Same reason the USSR started off strong. It's great until you run out of other people's money and the gulag labor starts slipping.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
silentwing26x 08/10/18 10:15:36 PM #69:	hockeybub89 posted... silentwing26x posted... hockeybub89 posted... silentwing26x posted... hockeybub89 posted... silentwing26x posted... CrimsonRage posted... mal checks under his bed for antifa before he goes to sleep Why are you downplaying domestic terrorism? Yeah, why do conservative shitposters downplay the far-right terrorists that have been killing for decades? I haven't seen any conservative on CE downplay terrorism of any kind. There must be a glitch in the text-to-speech software you use to read the Internet. someone just downplayed domestic terrorism and all you had as a response was whataboutism there must be a glitch in your thought process, buddy Sorry. I just hate moral grandstanding from hypocrites. Isn't there enough of that on the news networks? maximum whataboutism achieved <cite>silentwing26x posted [p:906663866] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CrimsonRage posted...</cite> <quote>mal checks under his bed for antifa before he goes to sleep</quote> Why are you downplaying domestic terrorism?</quote> Yeah, why do conservative shitposters downplay the far-right terrorists that have been killing for decades?</quote> I haven't seen any conservative on CE downplay terrorism of any kind.</quote> There must be a glitch in the text-to-speech software you use to read the Internet.</quote> someone just downplayed domestic terrorism and all you had as a response was whataboutism there must be a glitch in your thought process, buddy</quote> Sorry. I just hate moral grandstanding from hypocrites. Isn't there enough of that on the news networks?</quote> maximum whataboutism achieved</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HiddenLurker 08/10/18 10:16:02 PM #70:	silentwing26x posted... hockeybub89 posted... silentwing26x posted... CrimsonRage posted... mal checks under his bed for antifa before he goes to sleep Why are you downplaying domestic terrorism? Yeah, why do conservative shitposters downplay the far-right terrorists that have been killing for decades? I haven't seen any conservative on CE downplay terrorism of any kind. His idea of "downplay" is not immediately declaring all violence as Conservative created cause evidently liberals would never resort to violence. --- [Insert tired meme here] <cite>HiddenLurker posted [p:906663892] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CrimsonRage posted...</cite> <quote>mal checks under his bed for antifa before he goes to sleep</quote> Why are you downplaying domestic terrorism?</quote> Yeah, why do conservative shitposters downplay the far-right terrorists that have been killing for decades?</quote> I haven't seen any conservative on CE downplay terrorism of any kind.</quote> His idea of "downplay" is not immediately declaring all violence as Conservative created cause evidently liberals would never resort to violence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
silentwing26x 08/10/18 10:16:06 PM #71:	Sephiroth1288 posted... hockeybub89 posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... Antifar posted... I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise? Literally nothing you posted refutes how the Nazi party had de facto control over "private" German companies. And that's enough "but Nazis" deflection out of you as well for this topic. I heard socialism can't work. Why was Nazi Germany's economy thriving under the Third Reich? Same reason the USSR started off strong. It's great until you run out of other people's money and the gulag labor starts slipping. shhhh you might upset the socialists everyone knows the USSR was a runaway success until filthy capitalists intervened. or something. <cite>silentwing26x posted [p:906663894] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise?</quote> Literally nothing you posted refutes how the Nazi party had de facto control over "private" German companies. And that's enough "but Nazis" deflection out of you as well for this topic.</quote> I heard socialism can't work. Why was Nazi Germany's economy thriving under the Third Reich?</quote> Same reason the USSR started off strong. It's great until you run out of other people's money and the gulag labor starts slipping.</quote> shhhh you might upset the socialists everyone knows the USSR was a runaway success until filthy capitalists intervened. or something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
southcoast09 08/10/18 10:17:08 PM #72:	Capn Circus posted... It should be no secret what they do. These are the same people who show up to peaceful pro-Trump marches and become violent, then liberals take their side saying they're "fighting Nazis". Besides the lone loon who ran his car into protesters in Charlottesville, Antifa and SJWs are unequivocally the source of violence and riots. Yes. The left shows up and disrupts any chance for the opposition to speak. Antifa terrorists should be sentenced to prison for associating with a domestic terrorist group. --- #MakeFinalFantasyGreatAgain <cite>southcoast09 posted [p:906663931] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote>It should be no secret what they do. These are the same people who show up to peaceful pro-Trump marches and become violent, then liberals take their side saying they're "fighting Nazis". Besides the lone loon who ran his car into protesters in Charlottesville, Antifa and SJWs are unequivocally the source of violence and riots.</quote> Yes. The left shows up and disrupts any chance for the opposition to speak. Antifa terrorists should be sentenced to prison for associating with a domestic terrorist group.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/10/18 10:18:19 PM #73:	kayoticdreamz posted... I love threads like these. If a conservative does something violent, the liberals usually by post 2, no later than post 5, are hurling insults at the person with reckless abandon. a violent left wing group does something violent? no insults from the liberals even by post 15. And what little there is, is very tame in comparison. And if you flip the script, condemnation has to be pulled out of certain conservatives and they'll waste no time shitting on an entire group or an entire half of the political spectrum when a leftist does bad shit. Again, grandstanding is for hypocrites. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:906663985] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>kayoticdreamz posted...</cite> <quote>I love threads like these. If a conservative does something violent, the liberals usually by post 2, no later than post 5, are hurling insults at the person with reckless abandon. a violent left wing group does something violent? no insults from the liberals even by post 15. And what little there is, is very tame in comparison.</quote> And if you flip the script, condemnation has to be pulled out of certain conservatives and they'll waste no time shitting on an entire group or an entire half of the political spectrum when a leftist does bad shit. Again, grandstanding is for hypocrites.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/10/18 10:20:47 PM #74:	Sephiroth1288 posted... hockeybub89 posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... Antifar posted... I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise? Literally nothing you posted refutes how the Nazi party had de facto control over "private" German companies. And that's enough "but Nazis" deflection out of you as well for this topic. I heard socialism can't work. Why was Nazi Germany's economy thriving under the Third Reich? Same reason the USSR started off strong. It's great until you run out of other people's money and the gulag labor starts slipping. Good that you mentioned the USSR. Now there's a piece of shit far-left group. Why do you need to push the alt-history when the Soviets give you all the ammo you need? Hell, Stalin killed even more people than Hitler. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:906664087] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise?</quote> Literally nothing you posted refutes how the Nazi party had de facto control over "private" German companies. And that's enough "but Nazis" deflection out of you as well for this topic.</quote> I heard socialism can't work. Why was Nazi Germany's economy thriving under the Third Reich?</quote> Same reason the USSR started off strong. It's great until you run out of other people's money and the gulag labor starts slipping.</quote> Good that you mentioned the USSR. Now there's a piece of shit far-left group. Why do you need to push the alt-history when the Soviets give you all the ammo you need? Hell, Stalin killed even more people than Hitler.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 08/10/18 10:21:16 PM #75:	AlephZero posted... but they were attacked first they were just defending themselves --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:906664106] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlephZero posted...</cite> <quote>but they were attacked first they were just defending themselves</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
silentwing26x 08/10/18 10:22:32 PM #76:	hockeybub89 posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... hockeybub89 posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... Antifar posted... I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise? Literally nothing you posted refutes how the Nazi party had de facto control over "private" German companies. And that's enough "but Nazis" deflection out of you as well for this topic. I heard socialism can't work. Why was Nazi Germany's economy thriving under the Third Reich? Same reason the USSR started off strong. It's great until you run out of other people's money and the gulag labor starts slipping. Good that you mentioned the USSR. Now there's a piece of shit far-left group. Why do you need to push the alt-history when the Soviets give you all the ammo you need? Hell, Stalin killed even more people than Hitler. b-but...b-but....the USSR wasn't real communism!!!! or something <cite>silentwing26x posted [p:906664156] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise?</quote> Literally nothing you posted refutes how the Nazi party had de facto control over "private" German companies. And that's enough "but Nazis" deflection out of you as well for this topic.</quote> I heard socialism can't work. Why was Nazi Germany's economy thriving under the Third Reich?</quote> Same reason the USSR started off strong. It's great until you run out of other people's money and the gulag labor starts slipping.</quote> Good that you mentioned the USSR. Now there's a piece of shit far-left group. Why do you need to push the alt-history when the Soviets give you all the ammo you need? Hell, Stalin killed even more people than Hitler.</quote> b-but...b-but....the USSR wasn't real communism!!!! or something</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/10/18 10:28:10 PM #77:	hockeybub89 posted... darkjedilink posted... Antifar posted... https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/ For members of the Nazi Party, in fact, defending socialism on its own terms was a risky activity which could result in ejection from the party, or worse. Of party leader and dissenter Otto Strasser (whose similarly-minded brother, Gregor, would ultimately be assassinated by the Nazis), William Shirer writes: Unfortunately for him, he had taken seriously not only the word socialist but the word workers in the partys official name of National Socialist German Workers Party. He had supported certain strikes of the socialist trade unions and demanded that the party come out for nationalization of industry. This of course was heresy to Hitler, who accused Otto Strasser of professing the cardinal sins of democracy and liberalism. On May 21 and 22, 1930, the Fuehrer had a showdown with his rebellious subordinate and demanded complete submission. When Otto refused, he was booted out of the party. ... The plain truth, writes Historian Richard J. Evans in The Coming of the Third Reich, was that Hitler and his party saw socialism, communism, and leftism generally as inimical to everything they hoped to achieve: Despite the change of name, however, it would be wrong to see Nazism as a form of, or an outgrowth from, socialism. True, as some have pointed out, its rhetoric was frequently egalitarian, it stressed the need to put common needs above the needs of the individual, and it often declared itself opposed to big business and international finance capital. Famously, too, anti-Semitism was once declared to be the socialism of fools. But from the very beginning, Hitler declared himself implacably opposed to Social Democracy and, initially to a much smaller extent, Communism: after all, the November traitors who had signed the Armistice and later the Treaty of Versailles were not Communists at all, but the Social Democrats. https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/04/capitalism-and-nazism/ Luckily, Suresh Naidu, the kick-ass economist at Columbia, supplied me with the following graphs. This first one, which comes from Thomas Pikettys Capital in the Twenty-First Century, compares the share of national income that went to capital in the US and in Germany between 1929 and 1938. Suresh tells me that the share roughly tracks capitals rate of return. Long story short: capital was doing better under the Nazis than under FDR. Not because of overall increases in economic performance in one country versus another, but because of the economic policies of the regime. Or so Suresh tells me. I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise? They all explicitly state how Nazis were socialist.... Vladimir Putin calls himself a democratically elected Preisdent. China and North Korea say they are of the people. The Congo says it is Democratic. It's almost like people can lie for their own gain. Yes, that link does say the Nazis put socialist in their name, but the proof is in the pudding and it has been widely accepted for a very long time that the Nazis were a far-right, fascist regime. Silly authors that want to prove how evil the left is aren't going to change that. Your link explicitly lists the Socialist policies they put in place... --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:906664409] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/ <quote>For members of the Nazi Party, in fact, defending socialism on its own terms was a risky activity which could result in ejection from the party, or worse. Of party leader and dissenter Otto Strasser (whose similarly-minded brother, Gregor, would ultimately be assassinated by the Nazis), William Shirer writes: Unfortunately for him, he had taken seriously not only the word socialist but the word workers in the partys official name of National Socialist German Workers Party. He had supported certain strikes of the socialist trade unions and demanded that the party come out for nationalization of industry. This of course was heresy to Hitler, who accused Otto Strasser of professing the cardinal sins of democracy and liberalism. On May 21 and 22, 1930, the Fuehrer had a showdown with his rebellious subordinate and demanded complete submission. When Otto refused, he was booted out of the party. ... The plain truth, writes Historian Richard J. Evans in The Coming of the Third Reich, was that Hitler and his party saw socialism, communism, and leftism generally as inimical to everything they hoped to achieve: Despite the change of name, however, it would be wrong to see Nazism as a form of, or an outgrowth from, socialism. True, as some have pointed out, its rhetoric was frequently egalitarian, it stressed the need to put common needs above the needs of the individual, and it often declared itself opposed to big business and international finance capital. Famously, too, anti-Semitism was once declared to be the socialism of fools. But from the very beginning, Hitler declared himself implacably opposed to Social Democracy and, initially to a much smaller extent, Communism: after all, the November traitors who had signed the Armistice and later the Treaty of Versailles were not Communists at all, but the Social Democrats.</quote> https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/04/capitalism-and-nazism/ <quote>Luckily, Suresh Naidu, the kick-ass economist at Columbia, supplied me with the following graphs. This first one, which comes from Thomas Pikettys Capital in the Twenty-First Century, compares the share of national income that went to capital in the US and in Germany between 1929 and 1938. Suresh tells me that the share roughly tracks capitals rate of return. Long story short: capital was doing better under the Nazis than under FDR. Not because of overall increases in economic performance in one country versus another, but because of the economic policies of the regime. Or so Suresh tells me. </quote> I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise?</quote> They all explicitly state how Nazis were socialist....</quote> Vladimir Putin calls himself a democratically elected Preisdent. China and North Korea say they are of the people. The Congo says it is Democratic. It's almost like people can lie for their own gain. Yes, that link does say the Nazis put socialist in their name, but the proof is in the pudding and it has been widely accepted for a very long time that the Nazis were a far-right, fascist regime. Silly authors that want to prove how evil the left is aren't going to change that.</quote> Your link explicitly lists the Socialist policies they put in place...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/10/18 10:28:42 PM #78:	hockeybub89 posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... hockeybub89 posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... Antifar posted... I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise? Literally nothing you posted refutes how the Nazi party had de facto control over "private" German companies. And that's enough "but Nazis" deflection out of you as well for this topic. I heard socialism can't work. Why was Nazi Germany's economy thriving under the Third Reich? Same reason the USSR started off strong. It's great until you run out of other people's money and the gulag labor starts slipping. Good that you mentioned the USSR. Now there's a piece of shit far-left group. Why do you need to push the alt-history when the Soviets give you all the ammo you need? Hell, Stalin killed even more people than Hitler. This isn't a tit-for-tat game, it's not about getting ammo, I'm just calling it like I see it. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:906664429] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise?</quote> Literally nothing you posted refutes how the Nazi party had de facto control over "private" German companies. And that's enough "but Nazis" deflection out of you as well for this topic.</quote> I heard socialism can't work. Why was Nazi Germany's economy thriving under the Third Reich?</quote> Same reason the USSR started off strong. It's great until you run out of other people's money and the gulag labor starts slipping.</quote> Good that you mentioned the USSR. Now there's a piece of shit far-left group. Why do you need to push the alt-history when the Soviets give you all the ammo you need? Hell, Stalin killed even more people than Hitler.</quote> This isn't a tit-for-tat game, it's not about getting ammo, I'm just calling it like I see it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/10/18 11:00:52 PM #79:	AlephZero posted... but they were attacked first they were just defending themselves By those violent parked cars? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:906665967] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlephZero posted...</cite> <quote>but they were attacked first they were just defending themselves</quote> By those violent parked cars?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/10/18 11:02:56 PM #80:	Sephiroth1288 posted... hockeybub89 posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... hockeybub89 posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... Antifar posted... I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise? Literally nothing you posted refutes how the Nazi party had de facto control over "private" German companies. And that's enough "but Nazis" deflection out of you as well for this topic. I heard socialism can't work. Why was Nazi Germany's economy thriving under the Third Reich? Same reason the USSR started off strong. It's great until you run out of other people's money and the gulag labor starts slipping. Good that you mentioned the USSR. Now there's a piece of shit far-left group. Why do you need to push the alt-history when the Soviets give you all the ammo you need? Hell, Stalin killed even more people than Hitler. This isn't a tit-for-tat game, it's not about getting ammo, I'm just calling it like I see it. When was NATO created? Conspiracy theorists call things as they see them and we laugh and deride them for their goofy ass minority views based in little reality. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:906666074] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise?</quote> Literally nothing you posted refutes how the Nazi party had de facto control over "private" German companies. And that's enough "but Nazis" deflection out of you as well for this topic.</quote> I heard socialism can't work. Why was Nazi Germany's economy thriving under the Third Reich?</quote> Same reason the USSR started off strong. It's great until you run out of other people's money and the gulag labor starts slipping.</quote> Good that you mentioned the USSR. Now there's a piece of shit far-left group. Why do you need to push the alt-history when the Soviets give you all the ammo you need? Hell, Stalin killed even more people than Hitler.</quote> This isn't a tit-for-tat game, it's not about getting ammo, I'm just calling it like I see it.</quote> When was NATO created? Conspiracy theorists call things as they see them and we laugh and deride them for their goofy ass minority views based in little reality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImTheMacheteGuy 08/10/18 11:24:40 PM #82:	darkjedilink posted... Antifar posted... https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/ For members of the Nazi Party, in fact, defending socialism on its own terms was a risky activity which could result in ejection from the party, or worse. Of party leader and dissenter Otto Strasser (whose similarly-minded brother, Gregor, would ultimately be assassinated by the Nazis), William Shirer writes: Unfortunately for him, he had taken seriously not only the word ?socialist? but the word ?workers? in the party?s official name of National Socialist German Workers? Party. He had supported certain strikes of the socialist trade unions and demanded that the party come out for nationalization of industry. This of course was heresy to Hitler, who accused Otto Strasser of professing the cardinal sins of ?democracy and liberalism.? On May 21 and 22, 1930, the Fuehrer had a showdown with his rebellious subordinate and demanded complete submission. When Otto refused, he was booted out of the party. ... The plain truth, writes Historian Richard J. Evans in The Coming of the Third Reich, was that Hitler and his party saw socialism, communism, and leftism generally as inimical to everything they hoped to achieve: Despite the change of name, however, it would be wrong to see Nazism as a form of, or an outgrowth from, socialism. True, as some have pointed out, its rhetoric was frequently egalitarian, it stressed the need to put common needs above the needs of the individual, and it often declared itself opposed to big business and international finance capital. Famously, too, anti-Semitism was once declared to be ?the socialism of fools.? But from the very beginning, Hitler declared himself implacably opposed to Social Democracy and, initially to a much smaller extent, Communism: after all, the ?November traitors? who had signed the Armistice and later the Treaty of Versailles were not Communists at all, but the Social Democrats. https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/04/capitalism-and-nazism/ Luckily, Suresh Naidu, the kick-ass economist at Columbia, supplied me with the following graphs. This first one, which comes from Thomas Piketty?s Capital in the Twenty-First Century, compares the share of national income that went to capital in the US and in Germany between 1929 and 1938. Suresh tells me that the share roughly tracks capital?s rate of return. Long story short: capital was doing better under the Nazis than under FDR. Not because of overall increases in economic performance in one country versus another, but because of the economic policies of the regime. Or so Suresh tells me. I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise? They all explicitly state how Nazis were socialist.... Democratic People's Republic of Korea --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:906667138] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/ <quote>For members of the Nazi Party, in fact, defending socialism on its own terms was a risky activity which could result in ejection from the party, or worse. Of party leader and dissenter Otto Strasser (whose similarly-minded brother, Gregor, would ultimately be assassinated by the Nazis), William Shirer writes: Unfortunately for him, he had taken seriously not only the word ?socialist? but the word ?workers? in the party?s official name of National Socialist German Workers? Party. He had supported certain strikes of the socialist trade unions and demanded that the party come out for nationalization of industry. This of course was heresy to Hitler, who accused Otto Strasser of professing the cardinal sins of ?democracy and liberalism.? On May 21 and 22, 1930, the Fuehrer had a showdown with his rebellious subordinate and demanded complete submission. When Otto refused, he was booted out of the party. ... The plain truth, writes Historian Richard J. Evans in The Coming of the Third Reich, was that Hitler and his party saw socialism, communism, and leftism generally as inimical to everything they hoped to achieve: Despite the change of name, however, it would be wrong to see Nazism as a form of, or an outgrowth from, socialism. True, as some have pointed out, its rhetoric was frequently egalitarian, it stressed the need to put common needs above the needs of the individual, and it often declared itself opposed to big business and international finance capital. Famously, too, anti-Semitism was once declared to be ?the socialism of fools.? But from the very beginning, Hitler declared himself implacably opposed to Social Democracy and, initially to a much smaller extent, Communism: after all, the ?November traitors? who had signed the Armistice and later the Treaty of Versailles were not Communists at all, but the Social Democrats.</quote> https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/04/capitalism-and-nazism/ <quote>Luckily, Suresh Naidu, the kick-ass economist at Columbia, supplied me with the following graphs. This first one, which comes from Thomas Piketty?s Capital in the Twenty-First Century, compares the share of national income that went to capital in the US and in Germany between 1929 and 1938. Suresh tells me that the share roughly tracks capital?s rate of return. Long story short: capital was doing better under the Nazis than under FDR. Not because of overall increases in economic performance in one country versus another, but because of the economic policies of the regime. Or so Suresh tells me. </quote> I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise?</quote> They all explicitly state how Nazis were socialist....</quote> Democratic People's Republic of Korea</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/10/18 11:56:20 PM #83:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... darkjedilink posted... Antifar posted... https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/ For members of the Nazi Party, in fact, defending socialism on its own terms was a risky activity which could result in ejection from the party, or worse. Of party leader and dissenter Otto Strasser (whose similarly-minded brother, Gregor, would ultimately be assassinated by the Nazis), William Shirer writes: Unfortunately for him, he had taken seriously not only the word ?socialist? but the word ?workers? in the party?s official name of National Socialist German Workers? Party. He had supported certain strikes of the socialist trade unions and demanded that the party come out for nationalization of industry. This of course was heresy to Hitler, who accused Otto Strasser of professing the cardinal sins of ?democracy and liberalism.? On May 21 and 22, 1930, the Fuehrer had a showdown with his rebellious subordinate and demanded complete submission. When Otto refused, he was booted out of the party. ... The plain truth, writes Historian Richard J. Evans in The Coming of the Third Reich, was that Hitler and his party saw socialism, communism, and leftism generally as inimical to everything they hoped to achieve: Despite the change of name, however, it would be wrong to see Nazism as a form of, or an outgrowth from, socialism. True, as some have pointed out, its rhetoric was frequently egalitarian, it stressed the need to put common needs above the needs of the individual, and it often declared itself opposed to big business and international finance capital. Famously, too, anti-Semitism was once declared to be ?the socialism of fools.? But from the very beginning, Hitler declared himself implacably opposed to Social Democracy and, initially to a much smaller extent, Communism: after all, the ?November traitors? who had signed the Armistice and later the Treaty of Versailles were not Communists at all, but the Social Democrats. https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/04/capitalism-and-nazism/ Luckily, Suresh Naidu, the kick-ass economist at Columbia, supplied me with the following graphs. This first one, which comes from Thomas Piketty?s Capital in the Twenty-First Century, compares the share of national income that went to capital in the US and in Germany between 1929 and 1938. Suresh tells me that the share roughly tracks capital?s rate of return. Long story short: capital was doing better under the Nazis than under FDR. Not because of overall increases in economic performance in one country versus another, but because of the economic policies of the regime. Or so Suresh tells me. I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise? They all explicitly state how Nazis were socialist.... Democratic People's Republic of Korea Did you miss this part? 'its rhetoric was frequently egalitarian, it stressed the need to put common needs above the needs of the individual, and it often declared itself opposed to big business and international finance capital. Famously, too, anti-Semitism was once declared to be the socialism of fools. ' Like, the only claim that they aren't in that article is basically 'because reasons.' There is no way you can look at their economic makeup, government organization, and expansionary outlook and legitimately say they're anything but socialist. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:906668678] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/ <quote>For members of the Nazi Party, in fact, defending socialism on its own terms was a risky activity which could result in ejection from the party, or worse. Of party leader and dissenter Otto Strasser (whose similarly-minded brother, Gregor, would ultimately be assassinated by the Nazis), William Shirer writes: Unfortunately for him, he had taken seriously not only the word ?socialist? but the word ?workers? in the party?s official name of National Socialist German Workers? Party. He had supported certain strikes of the socialist trade unions and demanded that the party come out for nationalization of industry. This of course was heresy to Hitler, who accused Otto Strasser of professing the cardinal sins of ?democracy and liberalism.? On May 21 and 22, 1930, the Fuehrer had a showdown with his rebellious subordinate and demanded complete submission. When Otto refused, he was booted out of the party. ... The plain truth, writes Historian Richard J. Evans in The Coming of the Third Reich, was that Hitler and his party saw socialism, communism, and leftism generally as inimical to everything they hoped to achieve: Despite the change of name, however, it would be wrong to see Nazism as a form of, or an outgrowth from, socialism. True, as some have pointed out, its rhetoric was frequently egalitarian, it stressed the need to put common needs above the needs of the individual, and it often declared itself opposed to big business and international finance capital. Famously, too, anti-Semitism was once declared to be ?the socialism of fools.? But from the very beginning, Hitler declared himself implacably opposed to Social Democracy and, initially to a much smaller extent, Communism: after all, the ?November traitors? who had signed the Armistice and later the Treaty of Versailles were not Communists at all, but the Social Democrats.</quote> https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/04/capitalism-and-nazism/ <quote>Luckily, Suresh Naidu, the kick-ass economist at Columbia, supplied me with the following graphs. This first one, which comes from Thomas Piketty?s Capital in the Twenty-First Century, compares the share of national income that went to capital in the US and in Germany between 1929 and 1938. Suresh tells me that the share roughly tracks capital?s rate of return. Long story short: capital was doing better under the Nazis than under FDR. Not because of overall increases in economic performance in one country versus another, but because of the economic policies of the regime. Or so Suresh tells me. </quote> I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise?</quote> They all explicitly state how Nazis were socialist....</quote> Democratic People's Republic of Korea</quote> Did you miss this part? 'its rhetoric was frequently egalitarian, it stressed the need to put common needs above the needs of the individual, and it often declared itself opposed to big business and international finance capital. Famously, too, anti-Semitism was once declared to be the socialism of fools. ' Like, the only claim that they aren't in that article is basically 'because reasons.' There is no way you can look at their economic makeup, government organization, and expansionary outlook and legitimately say they're anything but socialist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 08/10/18 11:57:09 PM #84:	Is there an anti-antifa? --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:906668710] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote>Is there an anti-antifa?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 08/11/18 12:02:24 AM #85:	Sativa_Rose posted... Is there an anti-antifa? Nazis are bad. Don't team up with killers and murderers just because you don't like property damage. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:906668948] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote>Is there an anti-antifa?</quote> Nazis are bad. Don't team up with killers and murderers just because you don't like property damage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperMedz3 08/11/18 12:08:18 AM #86:	https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht Kristallnacht Night of broken glass. --- Fallout 4 <cite>SuperMedz3 posted [p:906669198] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht Kristallnacht Night of broken glass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 08/11/18 12:15:16 AM #87:	A_Good_Boy posted... Sativa_Rose posted... Is there an anti-antifa? Nazis are bad. Don't team up with killers and murderers just because you don't like property damage. But what about a new antifa just for going after antifa? --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:906669492] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote>Is there an anti-antifa?</quote> Nazis are bad. Don't team up with killers and murderers just because you don't like property damage.</quote> But what about a new antifa just for going after antifa?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 08/11/18 12:16:29 AM #88:	Dagon_0 posted... Conservatives get so triggered over antifa lmao Hilarious. hurr durr --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:906669541] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dagon_0 posted...</cite> <quote>Conservatives get so triggered over antifa lmao Hilarious.</quote> hurr durr</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 08/11/18 12:17:50 AM #89:	Sativa_Rose posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Sativa_Rose posted... Is there an anti-antifa? Nazis are bad. Don't team up with killers and murderers just because you don't like property damage. But what about a new antifa just for going after antifa? That would be cool. It's pretty hard to stomach anti-fascist activists when they have all this baggage accompanying their activities. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:906669593] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote>Is there an anti-antifa?</quote> Nazis are bad. Don't team up with killers and murderers just because you don't like property damage.</quote> But what about a new antifa just for going after antifa?</quote> That would be cool. It's pretty hard to stomach anti-fascist activists when they have all this baggage accompanying their activities.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EternalDivide 08/11/18 12:21:43 AM #90:	Label them a domestic terrorist group, which they are. Arrest them. Charge them. Convict them. And even after jail time as a felon they'll never be able to vote again thus preventing them from doing anymore damage to the country even legally. --- FFVII Remake: A disaster in the making. I'll laugh at whatever I find funny whether you like it or not. <cite>EternalDivide posted [p:906669714] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote>Label them a domestic terrorist group, which they are. Arrest them. Charge them. Convict them. And even after jail time as a felon they'll never be able to vote again thus preventing them from doing anymore damage to the country even legally.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 08/11/18 12:23:00 AM #91:	EternalDivide posted... Label them a domestic terrorist group, which they are. Arrest them. Charge them. Convict them. And even after jail time as a felon they'll never be able to vote again thus preventing them from doing anymore damage to the country even legally. They don't vote anyways. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:906669751] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>EternalDivide posted...</cite> <quote>Label them a domestic terrorist group, which they are. Arrest them. Charge them. Convict them. And even after jail time as a felon they'll never be able to vote again thus preventing them from doing anymore damage to the country even legally.</quote> They don't vote anyways.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheCyborgNinja 08/11/18 12:28:16 AM #92:	Dagon_0 posted... Conservatives get so triggered over antifa lmao Hilarious. It's not funny though. They're criminals. Supporting them is no better than supporting Nazis or the KKK. They're all hate groups in their own way, one just chose a more palatable PR gimmick. --- "message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888 <cite>TheCyborgNinja posted [p:906669929] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dagon_0 posted...</cite> <quote>Conservatives get so triggered over antifa lmao Hilarious.</quote> It's not funny though. They're criminals. Supporting them is no better than supporting Nazis or the KKK. They're all hate groups in their own way, one just chose a more palatable PR gimmick.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 08/11/18 12:33:49 AM #93:	SuperMedz3 posted... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht Kristallnacht Night of broken glass. Now That's What I Call Shitposting Vol. 10 --- https://imgur.com/VZeCB RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:906670126] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperMedz3 posted...</cite> <quote>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht Kristallnacht Night of broken glass.</quote> Now That's What I Call Shitposting Vol. 10</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperMedz3 08/11/18 12:52:07 AM #94:	ASithLord7 posted... SuperMedz3 posted... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht Kristallnacht Night of broken glass. Now That's What I Call Shitposting Vol. 10 How so? --- Fallout 4 <cite>SuperMedz3 posted [p:906670807] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperMedz3 posted...</cite> <quote>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht Kristallnacht Night of broken glass.</quote> Now That's What I Call Shitposting Vol. 10</quote> How so?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 08/11/18 12:54:11 AM #95:	TheCyborgNinja posted... Supporting them is no better than supporting Nazis or the KKK. false --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:906670872] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheCyborgNinja posted...</cite> <quote>Supporting them is no better than supporting Nazis or the KKK.</quote> false</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
silentwing26x 08/11/18 12:55:17 AM #96:	lmfao at defending domestic terrorists <cite>silentwing26x posted [p:906670918] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote>lmfao at defending domestic terrorists</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 08/11/18 12:57:18 AM #97:	silentwing26x posted... lmfao at defending domestic terrorists Who? I would never defend the anarchists of Antifa. They make the left look bad. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:906670990] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote>lmfao at defending domestic terrorists</quote> Who? I would never defend the anarchists of Antifa. They make the left look bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 08/11/18 1:15:39 AM #98:	SuperMedz3 posted... ASithLord7 posted... SuperMedz3 posted... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht Kristallnacht Night of broken glass. Now That's What I Call Shitposting Vol. 10 How so? I guess knowing some world history and noticing similarities between past and present events is bad. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if many Anitfas wished they could have their own pogrom against conservatives, of course they wouldn't think of it in those terms. We've seen what they enjoy doing and who they target. --- "Don't trade your authenticity for approval." -Kanye West <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:906671602] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperMedz3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperMedz3 posted...</cite> <quote>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht Kristallnacht Night of broken glass.</quote> Now That's What I Call Shitposting Vol. 10</quote> How so?</quote> I guess knowing some world history and noticing similarities between past and present events is bad. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if many Anitfas wished they could have their own pogrom against conservatives, of course they wouldn't think of it in those terms. We've seen what they enjoy doing and who they target.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 08/11/18 1:23:33 AM #99:	Funbazooka posted... SuperMedz3 posted... ASithLord7 posted... SuperMedz3 posted... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht Kristallnacht Night of broken glass. Now That's What I Call Shitposting Vol. 10 How so? I guess knowing some world history and noticing similarities between past and present events is bad. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if many Anitfas wished they could have their own pogrom against conservatives, of course they wouldn't think of it in those terms. We've seen what they enjoy doing and who they target. Please explain how some idiots smashing windows is comparable to targeting the Jewish community in a pogrom considered to be the beginning of the fucking Holocaust God damn --- https://imgur.com/VZeCB RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:906671888] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperMedz3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperMedz3 posted...</cite> <quote>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht Kristallnacht Night of broken glass.</quote> Now That's What I Call Shitposting Vol. 10</quote> How so?</quote> I guess knowing some world history and noticing similarities between past and present events is bad. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if many Anitfas wished they could have their own pogrom against conservatives, of course they wouldn't think of it in those terms. We've seen what they enjoy doing and who they target.</quote> Please explain how some idiots smashing windows is comparable to targeting the Jewish community in a pogrom considered to be the beginning of the fucking Holocaust God damn</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 08/11/18 1:26:41 AM #100:	I wasn't only referring to car windows. Nor did I compare anything to the Holocaust. --- "Don't trade your authenticity for approval." -Kanye West <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:906671973] in Antifa bra... [t:76891492]...</cite> <quote>I wasn't only referring to car windows. Nor did I compare anything to the Holocaust.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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