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YoshitoKikuchi
07/26/18 2:15:34 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yeasj2MVkhU" data-time="


That was truly brilliant. Made even more brilliant by the casting choice.
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VectorChaos
07/26/18 2:17:51 PM
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Keaton was menacing in the car.
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AsucaHayashi
07/26/18 2:19:06 PM
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awesome twist with awesome acting that makes you completely forget how unrealistic their whole scene in the car is which boils down to a non-powered thug with a gun vs spidey
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Zikten
07/26/18 2:21:03 PM
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AsucaHayashi posted...
awesome twist with awesome acting that makes you completely forget how unrealistic their whole scene in the car is which boils down to a non-powered thug with a gun vs spidey

Realistically Spidey would have done to Keaton what does in the comics to Kingpin after

Aunt May gets shot
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Corman321
07/26/18 2:22:32 PM
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Why didn't you expect it? Racists.
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Darkninja42
07/26/18 2:24:42 PM
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I liked how he logically pieced together that Peter was Spider-Man. You don't see that kind of thing often enough in movies
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SpoiltTrouser
07/26/18 2:27:44 PM
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bad guy is related to love interest, yawn.
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BLAKUboy
07/26/18 2:28:01 PM
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Like, the overly happy tone of that segment made it obvious something was coming. With everything going so right, something was bound to go wrong. But that particular twist was about the last place I expected them to go with it.
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KlRBEH
07/26/18 2:28:54 PM
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In hindsight it's not a crazy twist, but it caught me off guard
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Zeeak4444
07/26/18 2:30:18 PM
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I thought we were talking about The MJ twist..
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DarthAragorn
07/26/18 2:32:11 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
I thought we were talking about The MJ twist..

nah that shit was known months before the movie came out

I don't think anyone guessed this one
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ThanksUglyGod
07/26/18 2:32:53 PM
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I had it spoiled for me, but I still like how it was executed
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YoshitoKikuchi
07/26/18 2:34:41 PM
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Posted the link in my OP so you can witness the brilliance again.
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refmon
07/26/18 2:34:53 PM
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SpoiltTrouser posted...
bad guy is related to love interest, yawn.

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Phantom_Nook
07/26/18 2:36:11 PM
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it caught me off guard.
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Zikten
07/26/18 2:36:57 PM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
it caught me off guard.


I was surprised

Then I thought "oh maybe she's adopted"

Then I saw the mom

"Oh"
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Zeeak4444
07/26/18 2:38:12 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
I thought we were talking about The MJ twist..

nah that shit was known months before the movie came out

I don't think anyone guessed this one


I didn't know that came out before the movie lol.

True though in hindsight I should have known what we were talking about.
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YoshitoKikuchi
07/26/18 3:33:34 PM
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YoshitoKikuchi
07/26/18 5:38:29 PM
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bump
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SmidgeIsntBack
07/26/18 7:22:19 PM
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AsucaHayashi posted...
awesome twist with awesome acting that makes you completely forget how unrealistic their whole scene in the car is which boils down to a non-powered thug with a gun vs spidey


Even if Homecoming Peter had the skill and presence of mind to disarm him, the car was in front of the school with students everywhere.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/26/18 7:24:04 PM
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What twist, Parker not grabbing the gun and breaking his arm?
Vulture was in no way a threat to him in this scenario.
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dameon_reaper
07/26/18 7:24:16 PM
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SmidgeIsntBack posted...
AsucaHayashi posted...
awesome twist with awesome acting that makes you completely forget how unrealistic their whole scene in the car is which boils down to a non-powered thug with a gun vs spidey


Even if Homecoming Peter had the skill and presence of mind to disarm him, the car was in front of the school with students everywhere.


And a young Spidey is still allowed to be terrifed...his girlfriend's father being his enemy..
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Complete_Idi0t
07/26/18 7:24:50 PM
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The twist that Tony Stark is Peter Parker's father?
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Tupacrulez
07/26/18 7:36:56 PM
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Highlight of the movie. Beyond that it was terribly slow for me.

And Mary-Jane Watson is a fucking pasty white redhead. Goddammit Marvel. The Mandarin isn't a rich whitey, mordo isn't black, so on and so on.

I'll let Heimdall slide cause Idris Elba is top score.
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Slayerblade11
07/26/18 7:38:12 PM
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I like how Peter forgot hes has super powers and could have subdued him easily without his gear
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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/26/18 7:39:38 PM
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Tupacrulez posted...
The Mandarin isn't a rich whitey


Nor was he in IM3. It was a cover. IIRC the post credits suggest that there was a real Mandarin that they never shown.

As for Mordo, villains don't get the same treatment or "protections" usually. They're usually changed much more than the heroes.

As for MJ, you are 100% correct.
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Reis
07/26/18 7:42:19 PM
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one year later and people are still doing the dumb "durrrrr that's not how MJ is supposed to be!"

https://www.inverse.com/article/34344-spider-man-homecoming-zendaya-michelle-mary-jane-watson-mj
At the end of Homecoming, Michelle tells her debate team that her friends call her MJ, despite not having any friends. But Zendayas characters name is definitely Michelle, not Mary Jane. According to Marvel Studios boss Kevin Feige, the nickname MJ is just a fun homage to the beloved Mary Jane Watson character.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/26/18 7:43:41 PM
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"You guys are dumb for only watching the movie and not reading countless post hoc justifications!"

Wow I'm convinced.
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Reis
07/26/18 7:44:26 PM
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yes, you guys are dumb to think a character who in the movie is named michelle is indeed someone called mary jane
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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/26/18 7:49:14 PM
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If she is an excuse to not use Mary Jane but has her initials/nickname . . . it's fucking close enough.
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Reis
07/26/18 7:50:24 PM
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or it could be the fact that you know, they'll introduce her later on because we know there are gonna be more spider-man movies
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Zikten
07/26/18 10:27:53 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
If she is an excuse to not use Mary Jane but has her initials/nickname . . . it's fucking close enough.

not realy close at all cause she acts noting like MJ. literally the only connected she has is the same initials. it's not the same character. she is a totally different kind of person than MJ. MJ is not a SJW nerdy snarky girl. she's an outgoing super model/actress
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Zikten
07/26/18 10:29:03 PM
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Reis posted...
or it could be the fact that you know, they'll introduce her later on because we know there are gonna be more spider-man movies

and also the real MJ didn't meet Spidy until college. so there is plenty of time. if they do the who whole "face it tiger, you hit the jackpot" in a future movie, I will be happy. that scene has never been done in a live action movie before. only in the comics, and the 90's cartoon
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hollow_shrine
07/26/18 10:34:11 PM
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The twist isn't Adrian's realization in the car. The twist was opening the door to Liz's place and seeing him staring back at you. It's surprising not for plot reasons, but for narrative ones, because there's nothing prior to that scene telegraphing that development.
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Muffinz0rz
07/26/18 10:35:25 PM
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Michael Keaton was more terrifying as Michael Keaton than he was as Vulture.
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YoshitoKikuchi
07/26/18 10:37:05 PM
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hollow_shrine posted...
The twist isn't Adrian's realization in the car. The twist was opening the door to Liz's place and seeing him staring back at you. It's surprising not for plot reasons, but for narrative ones, because there's nothing prior to that scene telegraphing that development.


Yes, but also Adrian piecing things together in the car was a very surprising development.
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3khc
07/26/18 10:38:25 PM
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I called it right before the reveal.
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Darmik
07/26/18 10:53:33 PM
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Zikten posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
If she is an excuse to not use Mary Jane but has her initials/nickname . . . it's fucking close enough.

not realy close at all cause she acts noting like MJ. literally the only connected she has is the same initials. it's not the same character. she is a totally different kind of person than MJ. MJ is not a SJW nerdy snarky girl. she's an outgoing super model/actress


Zikten posted...
Reis posted...
or it could be the fact that you know, they'll introduce her later on because we know there are gonna be more spider-man movies

and also the real MJ didn't meet Spidy until college. so there is plenty of time. if they do the who whole "face it tiger, you hit the jackpot" in a future movie, I will be happy. that scene has never been done in a live action movie before. only in the comics, and the 90's cartoon


There has been more than one interpretation of MJ and it's pretty obvious the MCU Spidey is very much its own thing. It's not a straight adaptation. The twist being talked about in this topic should be proof enough of that.
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Zikten
07/26/18 10:54:57 PM
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look I just want "face it tiger you hit the jackpot"

and we can't do that if it's Zendaya cause she wouldn't say that
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Darmik
07/26/18 10:55:28 PM
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Zikten posted...
and we can't do that if it's Zendaya cause she wouldn't say that


Why not?
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Zikten
07/26/18 10:57:00 PM
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she doesn't have the personality to say that. that's something said by a confident sexy as fuck woman who knows she is the shit and decided for some reason to claim some nerd as her boyfriend and he needs to be damn aware of how lucky he is

zendaya is just a snarky high school nerd girl
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Darmik
07/26/18 10:58:23 PM
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You know people can grow up and re-style themselves during/after high school right? Especially if Peter isn't expecting it.
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Reis
07/26/18 11:01:15 PM
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idk why people are trying to argue this when literal Kevin Feige said its not Mary Jane, but anything for faux outrage I suppose
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008Zulu
07/26/18 11:24:19 PM
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Zikten posted...
look I just want "face it tiger you hit the jackpot"

and we can't do that if it's Zendaya cause she wouldn't say that


How would the world react to an Alpha Female? Clutching their pearls, while fainting would be my guess. I think she should say it.
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AsucaHayashi
07/27/18 1:16:56 AM
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SmidgeIsntBack posted...
AsucaHayashi posted...
awesome twist with awesome acting that makes you completely forget how unrealistic their whole scene in the car is which boils down to a non-powered thug with a gun vs spidey


Even if Homecoming Peter had the skill and presence of mind to disarm him, the car was in front of the school with students everywhere.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjuHNdEgN30" data-time="&start=319


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