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Aye
07/26/18 11:27:45 AM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/25/us/michigan-gerrymandering.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Newly disclosed emails show Michigan Republicans angling to give their party a dominant position through gerrymandered maps and celebrating the plight of their Democratic rivals.

Republicans in the state have denied that they sought partisan gain when they drew new legislative boundaries in 2011. But a federal lawsuit, which argues the maps are unconstitutional, has unearthed records showing Republicans intent on drawing boundaries that would help their party.

The emails, disclosed in a filing on Monday, boast of concentrating Dem garbage into four of the five southeast Michigan districts that Democrats now control, and of packing African-Americans into a metropolitan Detroit House district. One email likened a fingerlike extension they created in one Democratic district map to an obscene gesture toward its congressman, Representative Sander M. Levin.

Perfect. Its giving the finger to Sandy Levin, the author of the message wrote. I love it.

Excerpts from the emails were filed in United States District Court in Detroit this week as part of a battle between the plaintiffs and the defendant formally, Michigans secretary of state over how much evidence the sides must disclose before a trial begins. The emails were first reported by The Bridge, a magazine run by the Center for Michigan, a public policy think tank.
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Coffeebeanz
07/26/18 11:29:00 AM
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Finally Democrats can get back into power in Michigan and make it the gleaming utopia it has been up to this point
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Alphamon
07/26/18 11:29:15 AM
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all republicans are racist
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Phantom_Nook
07/26/18 11:30:31 AM
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Republicans know they can't win on their ideas, so they have to cheat.
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Alphamon
07/26/18 11:31:02 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
Finally Democrats can get back into power in Michigan and make it the gleaming utopia it has been up to this point

"why does nobody like me irl :("
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P4wn4g3
07/26/18 11:31:04 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
Finally Democrats can get back into power in Michigan and make it the gleaming utopia it has been up to this point

Read: Corrupt politicians are the best politicians
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Coffeebeanz
07/26/18 11:31:50 AM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
Republicans know they can't win on their ideas, so they have to cheat.


They probably poisoned the water in Flint, too lol
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Sayoria
07/26/18 11:32:04 AM
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Not a shock. As we see in movies, villains play dirty.
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Coffeebeanz
07/26/18 11:32:34 AM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Finally Democrats can get back into power in Michigan and make it the gleaming utopia it has been up to this point

Read: Corrupt politicians are the best politicians


Don't blame me, I vote libertarian
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kingdrake2
07/26/18 11:33:04 AM
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Sayoria posted...
Not a shock. As we see in movies, villains play dirty.

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Alphamon
07/26/18 11:33:29 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...

blame me, I voted for Trump
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RE_expert44
07/26/18 11:34:42 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
Finally Democrats can get back into power in Michigan and make it the gleaming utopia it has been up to this point

Imagine if all of Michigan was like Detroit. Think of how enriched it would be!
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P4wn4g3
07/26/18 11:37:06 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Finally Democrats can get back into power in Michigan and make it the gleaming utopia it has been up to this point

Read: Corrupt politicians are the best politicians


Don't blame me, I vote libertarian

If only all politicians were high 100% of the time there would be zero problems. It would be like if the president had a peace pipe on his desk, except it's actually a hookah with some intense shit in it.
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Coffeebeanz
07/26/18 11:37:32 AM
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Alphamon posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...

blame me, I voted for Trump


Now you're just being an idiot.

I've made it clear hundreds of times how much I hate Donald Trump
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NibeIungsnarf
07/26/18 11:39:43 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
Alphamon posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...

blame me, I voted for Trump


Now you're just being an idiot.

I've made it clear hundreds of times how much I hate Donald Trump

There's no worthwhile difference between being a Trump slurper and a libertarian.
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Coffeebeanz
07/26/18 11:39:58 AM
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RE_expert44 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Finally Democrats can get back into power in Michigan and make it the gleaming utopia it has been up to this point

Imagine if all of Michigan was like Detroit. Think of how enriched it would be!


Mad Max everywhere all the time
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Alphamon
07/26/18 11:40:00 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
Alphamon posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...

blame me, I voted for Trump


Now you're just being an idiot.

I've made it clear hundreds of times how much I hate Donald Trump

hard to believe that when your first comment was to deflect.

how unhappy is your life really lol?
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Coffeebeanz
07/26/18 11:40:19 AM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Alphamon posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...

blame me, I voted for Trump


Now you're just being an idiot.

I've made it clear hundreds of times how much I hate Donald Trump

There's no worthwhile difference between being a Trump slurper and a libertarian.


Yes because libertarians just love authoritarian assholes.
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P4wn4g3
07/26/18 11:41:07 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Alphamon posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...

blame me, I voted for Trump


Now you're just being an idiot.

I've made it clear hundreds of times how much I hate Donald Trump

There's no worthwhile difference between being a Trump slurper and a libertarian.


Yes because libertarians just love authoritarian assholes.

Exactly.
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NibeIungsnarf
07/26/18 11:41:24 AM
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It's literally impossible to be a libertarian without being an asshole so you're already 50% there.
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Coffeebeanz
07/26/18 11:42:26 AM
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-scratches head confusedly-
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silentwing26x
07/26/18 11:43:25 AM
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Coffeebeanz why are you responding to a brand new alt account like Alphamon?
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P4wn4g3
07/26/18 11:45:39 AM
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Yeah respond to me instead.
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Tyranthraxus
07/26/18 11:46:18 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Finally Democrats can get back into power in Michigan and make it the gleaming utopia it has been up to this point

Read: Corrupt politicians are the best politicians


Don't blame me, I vote libertarian


If you vote Libertarian, you are, in fact, to blame.
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Coffeebeanz
07/26/18 11:46:55 AM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
Yeah respond to me instead.


I always liked you though
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Antifar
07/26/18 11:46:59 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
Finally Democrats can get back into power in Michigan and make it the gleaming utopia it has been up to this point

"The voters wouldn't support my ideas, so cheating is fine."
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Coffeebeanz
07/26/18 11:47:45 AM
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Antifar posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Finally Democrats can get back into power in Michigan and make it the gleaming utopia it has been up to this point

"The voters wouldn't support my ideas, so cheating is fine."


I'm not sure how a criticism of Democrats is automatically a promotion of Republicans.

Unless you buy into the whole two party only thing

As far as I'm concerned, the fewer Republicans in government the better.
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Antifar
07/26/18 11:48:54 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
I'm not sure how a criticism of Democrats is automatically a promotion of Republicans.

In a topic about Republican efforts to distort democracy, bringing up the Democratic party only serves to to distract and deflect in the service of those Republicans. Otherwise it's just a fucking non-sequitur.
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CableZL
07/26/18 11:50:14 AM
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And then they call a move back toward a level playing ground "unfair."
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Coffeebeanz
07/26/18 11:51:22 AM
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Antifar posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
I'm not sure how a criticism of Democrats is automatically a promotion of Republicans.

In a topic about Republican efforts to distort democracy, bringing up the Democratic party only serves to to distract and deflect in the service of those Republicans. Otherwise it's just a fucking non-sequitur.


Yeah but it's also a topic about Michigan, a state so poorly managed it might as well be a post-apocalyptic lawless colony.

Republicans are cheating scumbags, but that doesn't give Democrats a free pass to pretend like they're fighting for the little guy in a state they screwed up so badly.
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TheVipaGTS
07/26/18 11:53:02 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
I'm not sure how a criticism of Democrats is automatically a promotion of Republicans.

this is a topic about something a Republican did wrong, you ignore that and instantly attack democrats, then say you're libertarian...Why not discuss the topic at hand? This also isn't the first time I've seen you do stuff like this (deflect from the Republicans)...
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Coffeebeanz
07/26/18 11:56:27 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
I'm not sure how a criticism of Democrats is automatically a promotion of Republicans.

this is a topic about something a Republican did wrong, you ignore that and instantly attack democrats, then say you're libertarian...Why not discuss the topic at hand? This also isn't the first time I've seen you do stuff like this (deflect from the Republicans)...


Initial post was a cynical statement about the state of decay in Michigan

Do please explain how you've extrapolated that into a defense of Republicans
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Alphamon
07/26/18 11:57:29 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
Antifar posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
I'm not sure how a criticism of Democrats is automatically a promotion of Republicans.

In a topic about Republican efforts to distort democracy, bringing up the Democratic party only serves to to distract and deflect in the service of those Republicans. Otherwise it's just a fucking non-sequitur.


Yeah but it's also a topic about Michigan, a state so poorly managed it might as well be a post-apocalyptic lawless colony.

Republicans are cheating scumbags, but that doesn't give Democrats a free pass to pretend like they're fighting for the little guy in a state they screwed up so badly.

youre a disgusting person.
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TheVipaGTS
07/26/18 12:01:20 PM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
I'm not sure how a criticism of Democrats is automatically a promotion of Republicans.

this is a topic about something a Republican did wrong, you ignore that and instantly attack democrats, then say you're libertarian...Why not discuss the topic at hand? This also isn't the first time I've seen you do stuff like this (deflect from the Republicans)...


Initial post was a cynical statement about the state of decay in Michigan

Do please explain how you've extrapolated that into a defense of Republicans

because the article is specifically about something a Republican did and you ignored that completely. Again, you do that a lot.
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Coffeebeanz
07/26/18 12:03:53 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
I'm not sure how a criticism of Democrats is automatically a promotion of Republicans.

this is a topic about something a Republican did wrong, you ignore that and instantly attack democrats, then say you're libertarian...Why not discuss the topic at hand? This also isn't the first time I've seen you do stuff like this (deflect from the Republicans)...


Initial post was a cynical statement about the state of decay in Michigan

Do please explain how you've extrapolated that into a defense of Republicans

because the article is specifically about something a Republican did and you ignored that completely. Again, you do that a lot.


Ok let's go down this pathway again.

I think Republicans are scum of the Earth, that Donald Trump is easily the worst president the US has ever had, that the GOP is an embarrassment to fiscal conservatives and their social policies are subhuman.

I also think that all of those points are so obvious that we don't need a team of armchair political gurus debating just how bad they are. It's blatant that they don't deserve a single seat in government.

Did I go too light on them for you?
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Alphamon
07/26/18 12:05:08 PM
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coffee would literally slurp trump off irl if she met him
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Coffeebeanz
07/26/18 12:08:00 PM
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frozenshock posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Finally Democrats can get back into power in Michigan and make it the gleaming utopia it has been up to this point


Detroit is a shithole

How does this justify gerrymandering?


It doesn't, and I hope the Republicans get sued to oblivion.
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HylianFox
07/26/18 12:33:05 PM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
I've made it clear hundreds of times how much I hate Donald Trump

lots of people hate Trump and still voted for him because "fuck Hillary and those godless liberals"
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DifferentialEquation
07/26/18 12:40:44 PM
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Meh, Democrats want to win by promising people free shit paid for with someone else's money and by not enforcing border security. A little gerrymandering is only fighting fire with fire.
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Darkman124
07/26/18 12:42:34 PM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
It doesn't, and I hope the Republicans get sued to oblivion.


to be clear

the lawsuit in question is one the republicans filed to stop a voter ballot initiative to kill gerrymandering in the state.
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FL81
07/26/18 12:50:46 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Finally Democrats can get back into power in Michigan and make it the gleaming utopia it has been up to this point

Read: Corrupt politicians are the best politicians


Don't blame me, I vote libertarian


If you vote Libertarian, you are, in fact, to blame.

I vote Libertarian

you're welcome
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Lost_All_Senses
07/26/18 12:54:49 PM
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I really rely on the government to live so I really need a Democrat here. Some Republicans seem to want me to be in severe pain while leading me to a premature death. It's fucked up
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UnholyMudcrab
07/26/18 12:55:38 PM
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Lost_All_Senses
07/26/18 12:56:49 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
This topic got the living hell derailed out of it


I didn't even read it. I just want a Democrat here overall. Plus we need to get this weed train moving even faster
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scorpion41
07/26/18 1:00:16 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
This topic got the living hell derailed out of it


I didn't even read it. I just want a Democrat here overall. Plus we need to get this weed train moving even faster


So you want free shit and pot? Thats a model democrat!
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VectorChaos
07/26/18 1:01:36 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
This topic got the living hell derailed out of it

Someone dared to say something bad about Democrats

The people who hate the religious right but react like this because they've deified their party and consider it sacrosanct
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Lost_All_Senses
07/26/18 1:03:32 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
This topic got the living hell derailed out of it


I didn't even read it. I just want a Democrat here overall. Plus we need to get this weed train moving even faster


So you want free shit and pot? Thats a model democrat!


I have 2 diseases. I can't work. Im trying to find a clever way to make money like writing and shit. That's a money-less venture unless I can capitalize on it when Im not depressed about the former >_>. Democrats just want to give people who were born with ailments a fighting chance. Do you not?
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Bacon_Pancakes
07/26/18 1:03:48 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
This topic got the living hell derailed out of it


I didn't even read it. I just want a Democrat here overall. Plus we need to get this weed train moving even faster

It's supposed to be on the ballot this year regardless of who is elected. Last year the petition was only a hundred or so signatures short of making it on.

Also we don't need a dem or rep in Michigan cus both parties are corrupt as fuck and corrupt politics is how Detroit got they way it is.
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SuperMedz3
07/26/18 1:05:32 PM
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Voters in Ohio passed a bill into law to prevent gerrymandering after the Republicans fucked the state by gerrymandering
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Lost_All_Senses
07/26/18 1:07:42 PM
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Bacon_Pancakes posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
This topic got the living hell derailed out of it


I didn't even read it. I just want a Democrat here overall. Plus we need to get this weed train moving even faster

It's supposed to be on the ballot this year regardless of who is elected. Last year the petition was only a hundred or so signatures short of making it on.

Also we don't need a dem or rep in Michigan cus both parties are corrupt as fuck and corrupt politics is how Detroit got they way it is.


I don't really know politics. I feel like it would scare the fuck out of me in my situation to know >_>. But Michigan is definitely fucked up. Even the little known city Im from is slowly becoming abandoned and dirty. Except next to downtown. They hooked that place the fuck up. It's like a hipster hang out now. I never go there but it looks better than the abandoned factory that I use to grafitti and hang out in lol
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