Current Events > The way I see it, there's only 2 reasons people vote Republican

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Coffeebeanz posted...

I have no idea why anyone would support my straw man version of my political opposition!

i have no idea why anyone would respond to coffeebeanz seriously!

oh wait. she needs attention.

LOL

Yeah, now we're entering crazy territory. I mean, doesn't this go back to my first point, though? Don't let the crazies influence your opinions? You should have the awareness to simply ignore a nut like Richard Spencer.

We all gotta do better at staying grounded in reality, I think.
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Caution999 posted...

Don't let the crazies influence your opinions?

The crazies are literally the ones that gave us this dipshit president to begin with, along with the fact that HE'S one of "the crazies" himself.

Caution999 posted...

We all gotta do better at staying grounded in reality, I think.

People that are that enamored with their political leader that they are border line cultists shouldn't be telling others to stay grounded in reality.
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So, you're saying 62.9 million people are crazy?

I'm not the one who's outraged every day, man. I think we can agree this is the most volatile time we've ever had, politically, in this country, and I think it's because we've all started floating away from the ground.
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Caution999 posted...

So, you're saying 62.9 million people are crazy?

If the shoe fits. The idea that "well, there are a lot of them, so they can't be wrong or stupid or extreme" is not grounded in facts.
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Well, there's an old Simpsons image:

"50 million smokers can't be wrong!"

But I don't think it's quite relatable to this scenario. Smoking is an addiction that is craved by the body once you get hooked. Why is it so hard to believe people were fed up with how our government was currently operating?

Seems much more grounded in reality...
I know. It's not sexy. It's not...fun. It's...boring. Real shit is boring.
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the average republican:
-believes obama was born in kenya
-supports child seperations
-is against america taking in refugees
-supports trumps comments in helsinki
-supported the "very fine people" comment
-are ok with trump endorsing roy moore
-supports building the wall
-believes in YEC

yeah there is no reasoning with these people lol.

thats not being excessively partisan. that should be common sense.

WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...

Or, they believe government should be small and people who see tax dollars wasted all the time and are think the government needs less money, not more.

why would they vote for republicans then?

Caution999 posted...

Why is it so hard to believe people were fed up with how our government was currently operating?

That's a very different question from supporting Donald Trump
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Caution999 posted...

I'm not the one who's outraged every day, man. I think we can agree this is the most volatile time we've ever had, politically, in this country,

No, there have been much worse times, but that comes with the territory of having the most divisive president in modern history.

Caution999 posted...

and I think it's because we've all started floating away from the ground.

Yes, when one group starts cultishly worshiping their political leader, they are way off base.
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Alphamon posted...

the average republican:
-believes obama was born in kenya
-supports child seperations
-is against america taking in refugees
-supports trumps comments in helsinki
-supported the "very fine people" comment
-are ok with trump endorsing roy moore
-supports building the wall
-believes in YEC

yeah there is no reasoning with these people lol.

thats not being excessively partisan. that should be common sense.

Pretty sure Obama being 'born in Kenya' is another conspiracy theory like JFK's shooting.

Nobody supports child separations. We support deporting illegal aliens who are jumping ahead in the line.

We're all for refugees that try to come here legally. Big difference. Think about it: How did your family get here? Was it thru legal means? Probably. Why spit on their graves?

We support trying to peacefully work with Russia on our terms. We don't want a war.

Again "very fine people" was said to not create further chaos before he had all the facts. You have the benefit of hindsight on July 25, 2018.

Roy Moore thing was terrible.

Yes, we do support the wall.

IDK what YEC is. *looks it up* Ok, I don't think that's something most of them agree with. Furthermore, who the hell even cares?
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people vote republican because stores need to be able to "merry Christmas" and want "religious freedom" as a made up excuse to discriminate against people that are gay.
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Antifar posted...

Caution999 posted...

Why is it so hard to believe people were fed up with how our government was currently operating?

That's a very different question from supporting Donald Trump

No. Trump was an outsider to the current political regime. That made him very much... "one of us normal people".
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Caution999 posted...

Pretty sure Obama being 'born in Kenya' is another conspiracy theory like JFK's shooting.

One believed by a sizable chunk of Republicans, even to this day
https://www.politico.com/story/2011/02/51-of-gop-voters-obama-foreign-049554 A majority in this 2011 poll
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-one-in-four-americans-think-obama-was-not-born-in-us/ 45 percent here
https://www.mediaite.com/online/new-poll-shows-that-41-of-republicans-still-dont-think-obama-was-born-in-the-u-s/ 41 percent as of two years ago

Caution999 posted...

Nobody supports child separations.

55 percent of Republicans do
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/392802-poll-majority-of-republicans-back-family-separation-policy

Caution999 posted...

IDK what YEC is. *looks it up* Ok, I don't think that's something most of them agree with.

It is
http://www.gallup.com/poll/155003/Hold-Creationist-View-Human-Origins.aspx
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Honestly, can someone tell me the difference in believing there were two shooters during JFK's assassination and someone believing Obama wasn't born here?

Both are conspiracy theories. I made a poll on here before about JFK and most people on here believe that the official report is bogus.

Does that make them bad people?

"muh polls!!!"

They didn't help ya when it mattered, did they? Yeah, if parents decide to try and illegally come thru the country with their children - that's their decision. They can be held for the consequences of making a poor choice. They certainly know there is a possibility they could be separated from their child. That's not the United States' fault.
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caution is precisely what i meant when i said you cannot reason with republicans.

Caution999 posted...

Pretty sure Obama being 'born in Kenya' is another conspiracy theory like JFK's shooting.

One that president dipshit continued to spread.... And speaking of JFK conspiracies... president dipshit also liked one of those.....

Caution999 posted...

Again "very fine people" was said to not create further chaos before he had all the facts. You have the benefit of hindsight on July 25, 2018.

Please. There was no hindsight or "waiting for the facts" that day. Everyone knew exactly what happened. Fat fuck was just trying to downplay the violence from the right and placate his base while drawing a bullshit false equivalency with the people protesting neo-Nazis.
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Humanity is incapable of governing itself objectively because we fundamentally lack objectivity.
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Caution999 posted...

Yeah, if parents decide to try and illegally come thru the country with their children - that's their decision. They can be held for the consequences of making a poor choice. They certainly know there is a possibility they could be separated from their child. That's not the United States' fault.

You've gone in less than 20 minutes from saying "nobody supports family separation" to saying you support it.
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I mean, who on here believes 9/11 conspiracy theories???

Stop acting like nobody on the left believes in conspiracy theories. I think as long as a person is grounded enough to know it's a conspiracy theory, then it's OK.
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Antifar posted...

Caution999 posted...

Yeah, if parents decide to try and illegally come thru the country with their children - that's their decision. They can be held for the consequences of making a poor choice. They certainly know there is a possibility they could be separated from their child. That's not the United States' fault.

You've gone in less than 20 minutes from saying "nobody supports family separation" to saying you support it.

And there was an EO that is beginning to fix this nonsense that was running rampant before Trump even got in office.

You didn't seem to give a flying EFF then...not until Trump got in office. How fascinating.
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There's basically two types of Republicans:

1) Racist assholes who've been led to believe that blacks/gays/jews/muslims/etc., have come in to destroy them and their way of life and believe that the ever so "heroic" Republicans will come in to save them by passing more gun laws and starting more wars.

2) Rich assholes who don't want the government to come swoop in and stop them from being able to exploit the average American.
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Caution999 posted...

You didn't seem to give a flying EFF then...not until Trump got in office. How fascinating.

To the extent that I turned a blind eye towards Obama's abhorrent immigration policies (as someone who regularly posted about them), that's on me. What's your excuse for defending the actions now?
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Trump has done more about it than Obama has and you're more mad at him.

That doesn't even make sense.
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Alphamon posted...

caution is precisely what i meant when i said you cannot reason with republicans.

Oh, is that what this thread is about, to reason with the republicans? It doesnt really look like that, like at all, if were being honest.
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@Caution999 it's ok bro, you're a fan of 45 and of the alt right. You love them. We get it. You still can't change our minds.

I'm not a fan of the Alt-Right.

No matter how many times you say that it doesn't make it true.
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Caution999 posted...

I'm not a fan of the Alt-Right.

No matter how many times you say that it doesn't make it true.

I mean, you literally are. You're a dyed in the wool Donnie cultist, and he's alt-right.
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Heineken14 posted...

Caution999 posted...

I'm not a fan of the Alt-Right.

No matter how many times you say that it doesn't make it true.

I mean, you literally are. You're a dyed in the wool Donnie cultist, and he's alt-right.

see caution? I's ok bro, chill

Antifar posted...

Caution999 posted...

You didn't seem to give a flying EFF then...not until Trump got in office. How fascinating.

To the extent that I turned a blind eye towards Obama's abhorrent immigration policies (as someone who regularly posted about them), that's on me. What's your excuse for defending the actions now?

and he was never seen again
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Heineken14 posted...

Caution999 posted...

I'm not a fan of the Alt-Right.

No matter how many times you say that it doesn't make it true.

I mean, you literally are. You're a dyed in the wool Donnie cultist, and he's alt-right.

Yeah this statement sounds grounded in reality.
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Caution999 posted...

Heineken14 posted...

Caution999 posted...

I'm not a fan of the Alt-Right.

No matter how many times you say that it doesn't make it true.

I mean, you literally are. You're a dyed in the wool Donnie cultist, and he's alt-right.

Yeah this statement sounds grounded in reality.

Yeah YOU sound grounded in reality

Caution999 posted...

Heineken14 posted...

Caution999 posted...

I'm not a fan of the Alt-Right.

No matter how many times you say that it doesn't make it true.

I mean, you literally are. You're a dyed in the wool Donnie cultist, and he's alt-right.

Yeah this statement sounds grounded in reality.

I mean, it is..... So..... Theres that.
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bump for truth

Most people I know that voted for Trump fall into the second category. They don't like him but it's a "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" sort of situation.

again, they're mostly Christians... >_>
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