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tennisdude818 07/19/18 3:18:25 PM #1:	Which one? - Results (20 votes) Russia 25% (5 votes) 5 Israel 75% (15 votes) 15 Benefits from our expensive relationship with Israel seem pretty one sided. --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell <cite>tennisdude818 posted [p:905364886] in Which coun... [t:76822538]...</cite> <quote> Which one? - Results (20 votes) Russia 25% (5 votes) 5 Israel 75% (15 votes) 15 Benefits from our expensive relationship with Israel seem pretty one sided.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 07/19/18 3:20:04 PM #2:	Israel no question, only fake news believers would say Russia --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:905364967] in Which coun... [t:76822538]...</cite> <quote>Israel no question, only fake news believers would say Russia</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 07/19/18 3:20:53 PM #3:	Kazi1212 posted... Israel no question, only fake news believers would say Russia Only Trump fans? --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:905365007] in Which coun... [t:76822538]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Israel no question, only fake news believers would say Russia</quote> Only Trump fans?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 07/19/18 3:27:03 PM #4:	creativerealms posted... Kazi1212 posted... Israel no question, only fake news believers would say Russia Only Trump fans? Do Trump fans follow CNN? Because theyll have you believe Russia has more influence over our politicians than Israel --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:905365323] in Which coun... [t:76822538]...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Israel no question, only fake news believers would say Russia</quote> Only Trump fans?</quote> Do Trump fans follow CNN? Because theyll have you believe Russia has more influence over our politicians than Israel</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tennisdude818 07/19/18 3:31:51 PM #5:	Kazi1212 posted... creativerealms posted... Kazi1212 posted... Israel no question, only fake news believers would say Russia Only Trump fans? Do Trump fans follow CNN? Because theyll have you believe Russia has more influence over our politicians than Israel How are we going to keep funneling hundreds of billions of $ to the beltway military industrial complex if the useful idiots arent hysterical over a boogeyman? --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell <cite>tennisdude818 posted [p:905365605] in Which coun... [t:76822538]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Israel no question, only fake news believers would say Russia</quote> Only Trump fans?</quote> Do Trump fans follow CNN? Because theyll have you believe Russia has more influence over our politicians than Israel</quote> How are we going to keep funneling hundreds of billions of $ to the beltway military industrial complex if the useful idiots arent hysterical over a boogeyman?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tennisdude818 07/19/18 3:48:30 PM #7:	shockthemonkey posted... Kazi1212 posted... creativerealms posted... Kazi1212 posted... Israel no question, only fake news believers would say Russia Only Trump fans? Do Trump fans follow CNN? Because theyll have you believe Russia has more influence over our politicians than Israel Name 5 politicians who CNN thinks are in Russias pocket Like I know your whole gimmick is to make shitposts while youre on dialysis but what do you gain from saying stupid shit constantly? How much time does CNN spend talking about the Israel lobby? They seem to like talking about other lobbies. --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell <cite>tennisdude818 posted [p:905366532] in Which coun... [t:76822538]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Israel no question, only fake news believers would say Russia</quote> Only Trump fans?</quote> Do Trump fans follow CNN? Because theyll have you believe Russia has more influence over our politicians than Israel</quote> Name 5 politicians who CNN thinks are in Russias pocket Like I know your whole gimmick is to make shitposts while youre on dialysis but what do you gain from saying stupid shit constantly?</quote> How much time does CNN spend talking about the Israel lobby? They seem to like talking about other lobbies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 07/19/18 3:49:45 PM #8:	shockthemonkey posted... Kazi1212 posted... creativerealms posted... Kazi1212 posted... Israel no question, only fake news believers would say Russia Only Trump fans? Do Trump fans follow CNN? Because theyll have you believe Russia has more influence over our politicians than Israel Name 5 politicians who CNN thinks are in Russias pocket Like I know your whole gimmick is to make shitposts while youre on dialysis but what do you gain from saying stupid shit constantly? Thats the thing, they dont actually think that, because they know its not true. However, it certainly doesnt stop them from creating the impression that Russia has more influence than Israel through their style and volume of news coverage on Russia as opposed to Israel. Mainstream news agencies are notorious for not outright lying but leaving out the whole truth such that they can shape their viewers perception to their liking. Fox is an excellent example and so is CNN. Go read Manufactured Consent by Chomsky if you want a detailed analysis of how mainstream media subverts the whole truth with half truths and uses subtle means to shape the public consciousness and narrative. Tell me if anything I said here is completely unreasonable to you --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:905366588] in Which coun... [t:76822538]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Israel no question, only fake news believers would say Russia</quote> Only Trump fans?</quote> Do Trump fans follow CNN? Because theyll have you believe Russia has more influence over our politicians than Israel</quote> Name 5 politicians who CNN thinks are in Russias pocket Like I know your whole gimmick is to make shitposts while youre on dialysis but what do you gain from saying stupid shit constantly?</quote> Thats the thing, they dont actually think that, because they know its not true. However, it certainly doesnt stop them from creating the impression that Russia has more influence than Israel through their style and volume of news coverage on Russia as opposed to Israel. Mainstream news agencies are notorious for not outright lying but leaving out the whole truth such that they can shape their viewers perception to their liking. Fox is an excellent example and so is CNN. Go read Manufactured Consent by Chomsky if you want a detailed analysis of how mainstream media subverts the whole truth with half truths and uses subtle means to shape the public consciousness and narrative. Tell me if anything I said here is completely unreasonable to you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkrobotisback 07/19/18 3:50:06 PM #9:	I feel like China has most amount of power over America... There's a reason why we're 300+ billion dollars in debt to them. --- "CRRRRRROOOOSIN YEAH IN USA, YEAH woouououowwowouwowuowuwowwuwouwo" <cite>Darkrobotisback posted [p:905366609] in Which coun... [t:76822538]...</cite> <quote>I feel like China has most amount of power over America... There's a reason why we're 300+ billion dollars in debt to them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kazi1212 07/19/18 3:54:42 PM #11:	shockthemonkey posted... Kazi1212 posted... shockthemonkey posted... Kazi1212 posted... creativerealms posted... Kazi1212 posted... Israel no question, only fake news believers would say Russia Only Trump fans? Do Trump fans follow CNN? Because theyll have you believe Russia has more influence over our politicians than Israel Name 5 politicians who CNN thinks are in Russias pocket Like I know your whole gimmick is to make shitposts while youre on dialysis but what do you gain from saying stupid shit constantly? Thats the thing, they dont actually think that, because they know its not true. However, it certainly doesnt stop them from creating the impression that Russia has more influence than Israel through their style and volume of news coverage on Russia as opposed to Israel. Mainstream news agencies are notorious for not outright lying but leaving out the whole truth such that they can shape their viewers perception to their liking. Fox is an excellent example and so is CNN. Go read Manufactured Consent by Chomsky if you want a detailed analysis of how mainstream media subverts the whole truth with half truths and uses subtle means to shape the public consciousness and narrative. Tell me if anything I said here is completely unreasonable to you I dont think you understand the difference between normal and abnormal. Im sorry, I dont see how that fits in to what I said. Was what I said unreasonable to you or no? --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:905366865] in Which coun... [t:76822538]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Israel no question, only fake news believers would say Russia</quote> Only Trump fans?</quote> Do Trump fans follow CNN? Because theyll have you believe Russia has more influence over our politicians than Israel</quote> Name 5 politicians who CNN thinks are in Russias pocket Like I know your whole gimmick is to make shitposts while youre on dialysis but what do you gain from saying stupid shit constantly?</quote> Thats the thing, they dont actually think that, because they know its not true. However, it certainly doesnt stop them from creating the impression that Russia has more influence than Israel through their style and volume of news coverage on Russia as opposed to Israel. Mainstream news agencies are notorious for not outright lying but leaving out the whole truth such that they can shape their viewers perception to their liking. Fox is an excellent example and so is CNN. Go read Manufactured Consent by Chomsky if you want a detailed analysis of how mainstream media subverts the whole truth with half truths and uses subtle means to shape the public consciousness and narrative. Tell me if anything I said here is completely unreasonable to you</quote> I dont think you understand the difference between normal and abnormal.</quote> Im sorry, I dont see how that fits in to what I said. Was what I said unreasonable to you or no?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tennisdude818 07/19/18 4:26:22 PM #12:	Kazi1212 posted... shockthemonkey posted... Kazi1212 posted... creativerealms posted... Kazi1212 posted... Israel no question, only fake news believers would say Russia Only Trump fans? Do Trump fans follow CNN? Because theyll have you believe Russia has more influence over our politicians than Israel Name 5 politicians who CNN thinks are in Russias pocket Like I know your whole gimmick is to make shitposts while youre on dialysis but what do you gain from saying stupid shit constantly? Thats the thing, they dont actually think that, because they know its not true. However, it certainly doesnt stop them from creating the impression that Russia has more influence than Israel through their style and volume of news coverage on Russia as opposed to Israel. Mainstream news agencies are notorious for not outright lying but leaving out the whole truth such that they can shape their viewers perception to their liking. Fox is an excellent example and so is CNN. Go read Manufactured Consent by Chomsky if you want a detailed analysis of how mainstream media subverts the whole truth with half truths and uses subtle means to shape the public consciousness and narrative. Tell me if anything I said here is completely unreasonable to you And its amazing how many people take US intelligence at face value. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDCfTIapds0" data-time=" --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell <cite>tennisdude818 posted [p:905368587] in Which coun... [t:76822538]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Israel no question, only fake news believers would say Russia</quote> Only Trump fans?</quote> Do Trump fans follow CNN? Because theyll have you believe Russia has more influence over our politicians than Israel</quote> Name 5 politicians who CNN thinks are in Russias pocket Like I know your whole gimmick is to make shitposts while youre on dialysis but what do you gain from saying stupid shit constantly?</quote> Thats the thing, they dont actually think that, because they know its not true. However, it certainly doesnt stop them from creating the impression that Russia has more influence than Israel through their style and volume of news coverage on Russia as opposed to Israel. Mainstream news agencies are notorious for not outright lying but leaving out the whole truth such that they can shape their viewers perception to their liking. Fox is an excellent example and so is CNN. Go read Manufactured Consent by Chomsky if you want a detailed analysis of how mainstream media subverts the whole truth with half truths and uses subtle means to shape the public consciousness and narrative. Tell me if anything I said here is completely unreasonable to you</quote> And its amazing how many people take US intelligence at face value. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDCfTIapds0" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 07/19/18 4:56:26 PM #13:	Kazi1212 posted... creativerealms posted... Kazi1212 posted... Israel no question, only fake news believers would say Russia Only Trump fans? Do Trump fans follow CNN? Because theyll have you believe Russia has more influence over our politicians than Israel No but only Trump supporters believe fake news. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:905370245] in Which coun... [t:76822538]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Israel no question, only fake news believers would say Russia</quote> Only Trump fans?</quote> Do Trump fans follow CNN? Because theyll have you believe Russia has more influence over our politicians than Israel</quote> No but only Trump supporters believe fake news.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kazi1212 07/19/18 5:25:04 PM #15:	I mean, a sovereign state cozying up to another state shouldnt be perceived as normal ever, but maybe thats just me. But I still dont understand what you said relates to what I said or the topic at hand, what does it matter if one is normal or abnormal? What truly matters is what has a more severe impact, and clearly Israels influence has a more severe impact on the future of the US than Russia. Just because one storyline might be more abnormal doesnt justify neglecting coverage of the other, especially when the other is of more significance. Even before this whole Russia fiasco started with Trump, how often did CNN cover Israels scary level of influence in our politics? Again I ask, has anything Ive said so far been completely unreasonable to you or will you continue to dodge this question? --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:905371849] in Which coun... [t:76822538]...</cite> <quote>I mean, a sovereign state cozying up to another state shouldnt be perceived as normal ever, but maybe thats just me. But I still dont understand what you said relates to what I said or the topic at hand, what does it matter if one is normal or abnormal? What truly matters is what has a more severe impact, and clearly Israels influence has a more severe impact on the future of the US than Russia. Just because one storyline might be more abnormal doesnt justify neglecting coverage of the other, especially when the other is of more significance. Even before this whole Russia fiasco started with Trump, how often did CNN cover Israels scary level of influence in our politics? Again I ask, has anything Ive said so far been completely unreasonable to you or will you continue to dodge this question?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aye 07/19/18 5:27:17 PM #16:	Russia owns Trump, but not the rest of the government. So Israel <cite>Aye posted [p:905372004] in Which coun... [t:76822538]...</cite> <quote>Russia owns Trump, but not the rest of the government. So Israel</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kazi1212 07/19/18 5:37:46 PM #18:	shockthemonkey posted... Kazi1212 posted... I mean, a sovereign state cozying up to another state shouldnt be perceived as normal ever, but maybe thats just me. But I still dont understand what you said relates to what I said or the topic at hand, what does it matter if one is normal or abnormal? What truly matters is what has a more severe impact, and clearly Israels influence has a more severe impact on the future of the US than Russia. Just because one storyline might be more abnormal doesnt justify neglecting coverage of the other, especially when the other is of more significance. Even before this whole Russia fiasco started with Trump, how often did CNN cover Israels scary level of influence in our politics? Again I ask, has anything Ive said so far been completely unreasonable to you or will you continue to dodge this question? Abnormal gets more coverage than normal Why do you keep typing so much if you arent going to say anything? Yes I know that was your point, which is why I preemptively stated that shouldnt be the case and is not justified if we actually care about highlighting the larger truths of our political system. Maybe you should actually read my post if youre going to bother to respond. Abnormal news stories gets coverage all the time, doesnt mean they are as important as the more pressing issues this country faces. But hey, if you think just because a story is abnormal it deserves more coverage than more legitimate issues, go right ahead man. Do you think Im being unreasonable here or are you going to dodge this question yet again? --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:905372619] in Which coun... [t:76822538]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, a sovereign state cozying up to another state shouldnt be perceived as normal ever, but maybe thats just me. But I still dont understand what you said relates to what I said or the topic at hand, what does it matter if one is normal or abnormal? What truly matters is what has a more severe impact, and clearly Israels influence has a more severe impact on the future of the US than Russia. Just because one storyline might be more abnormal doesnt justify neglecting coverage of the other, especially when the other is of more significance. Even before this whole Russia fiasco started with Trump, how often did CNN cover Israels scary level of influence in our politics? Again I ask, has anything Ive said so far been completely unreasonable to you or will you continue to dodge this question?</quote> Abnormal gets more coverage than normal Why do you keep typing so much if you arent going to say anything?</quote> Yes I know that was your point, which is why I preemptively stated that shouldnt be the case and is not justified if we actually care about highlighting the larger truths of our political system. Maybe you should actually read my post if youre going to bother to respond. Abnormal news stories gets coverage all the time, doesnt mean they are as important as the more pressing issues this country faces. But hey, if you think just because a story is abnormal it deserves more coverage than more legitimate issues, go right ahead man. Do you think Im being unreasonable here or are you going to dodge this question yet again?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 07/19/18 5:46:07 PM #19:	Kazi1212 posted... shockthemonkey posted... Kazi1212 posted... creativerealms posted... Kazi1212 posted... Israel no question, only fake news believers would say Russia Only Trump fans? Do Trump fans follow CNN? Because theyll have you believe Russia has more influence over our politicians than Israel Name 5 politicians who CNN thinks are in Russias pocket Like I know your whole gimmick is to make shitposts while youre on dialysis but what do you gain from saying stupid shit constantly? Thats the thing, they dont actually think that, because they know its not true. However, it certainly doesnt stop them from creating the impression that Russia has more influence than Israel through their style and volume of news coverage on Russia as opposed to Israel. Mainstream news agencies are notorious for not outright lying but leaving out the whole truth such that they can shape their viewers perception to their liking. Fox is an excellent example and so is CNN. Go read Manufactured Consent by Chomsky if you want a detailed analysis of how mainstream media subverts the whole truth with half truths and uses subtle means to shape the public consciousness and narrative. Tell me if anything I said here is completely unreasonable to you Russia did mess with the 2016 election and that is still a big deal. Anyway the reason why all news media are nice to Israel is they have to be. They don't want to be seen as anti-Semitic. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:905373110] in Which coun... [t:76822538]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Israel no question, only fake news believers would say Russia</quote> Only Trump fans?</quote> Do Trump fans follow CNN? Because theyll have you believe Russia has more influence over our politicians than Israel</quote> Name 5 politicians who CNN thinks are in Russias pocket Like I know your whole gimmick is to make shitposts while youre on dialysis but what do you gain from saying stupid shit constantly?</quote> Thats the thing, they dont actually think that, because they know its not true. However, it certainly doesnt stop them from creating the impression that Russia has more influence than Israel through their style and volume of news coverage on Russia as opposed to Israel. Mainstream news agencies are notorious for not outright lying but leaving out the whole truth such that they can shape their viewers perception to their liking. Fox is an excellent example and so is CNN. Go read Manufactured Consent by Chomsky if you want a detailed analysis of how mainstream media subverts the whole truth with half truths and uses subtle means to shape the public consciousness and narrative. Tell me if anything I said here is completely unreasonable to you</quote> Russia did mess with the 2016 election and that is still a big deal. Anyway the reason why all news media are nice to Israel is they have to be. They don't want to be seen as anti-Semitic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 07/19/18 5:52:03 PM #20:	creativerealms posted... Kazi1212 posted... shockthemonkey posted... Kazi1212 posted... creativerealms posted... Kazi1212 posted... Israel no question, only fake news believers would say Russia Only Trump fans? Do Trump fans follow CNN? Because theyll have you believe Russia has more influence over our politicians than Israel Name 5 politicians who CNN thinks are in Russias pocket Like I know your whole gimmick is to make shitposts while youre on dialysis but what do you gain from saying stupid shit constantly? Thats the thing, they dont actually think that, because they know its not true. However, it certainly doesnt stop them from creating the impression that Russia has more influence than Israel through their style and volume of news coverage on Russia as opposed to Israel. Mainstream news agencies are notorious for not outright lying but leaving out the whole truth such that they can shape their viewers perception to their liking. Fox is an excellent example and so is CNN. Go read Manufactured Consent by Chomsky if you want a detailed analysis of how mainstream media subverts the whole truth with half truths and uses subtle means to shape the public consciousness and narrative. Tell me if anything I said here is completely unreasonable to you Anyway the reason why all news media are nice to Israel is they have to be. They don't want to be seen as anti-Semitic. Believe me, if Russia had the biggest lobbying groups to the US like Israel does, the media wouldnt be saying shit about Russia either --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:905373459] in Which coun... [t:76822538]...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Israel no question, only fake news believers would say Russia</quote> Only Trump fans?</quote> Do Trump fans follow CNN? Because theyll have you believe Russia has more influence over our politicians than Israel</quote> Name 5 politicians who CNN thinks are in Russias pocket Like I know your whole gimmick is to make shitposts while youre on dialysis but what do you gain from saying stupid shit constantly?</quote> Thats the thing, they dont actually think that, because they know its not true. However, it certainly doesnt stop them from creating the impression that Russia has more influence than Israel through their style and volume of news coverage on Russia as opposed to Israel. Mainstream news agencies are notorious for not outright lying but leaving out the whole truth such that they can shape their viewers perception to their liking. Fox is an excellent example and so is CNN. Go read Manufactured Consent by Chomsky if you want a detailed analysis of how mainstream media subverts the whole truth with half truths and uses subtle means to shape the public consciousness and narrative. Tell me if anything I said here is completely unreasonable to you</quote> Anyway the reason why all news media are nice to Israel is they have to be. They don't want to be seen as anti-Semitic.</quote> Believe me, if Russia had the biggest lobbying groups to the US like Israel does, the media wouldnt be saying shit about Russia either</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 07/19/18 5:56:26 PM #21:	Kazi1212 posted... creativerealms posted... Kazi1212 posted... shockthemonkey posted... Kazi1212 posted... creativerealms posted... Kazi1212 posted... Israel no question, only fake news believers would say Russia Only Trump fans? Do Trump fans follow CNN? Because theyll have you believe Russia has more influence over our politicians than Israel Name 5 politicians who CNN thinks are in Russias pocket Like I know your whole gimmick is to make shitposts while youre on dialysis but what do you gain from saying stupid shit constantly? Thats the thing, they dont actually think that, because they know its not true. However, it certainly doesnt stop them from creating the impression that Russia has more influence than Israel through their style and volume of news coverage on Russia as opposed to Israel. Mainstream news agencies are notorious for not outright lying but leaving out the whole truth such that they can shape their viewers perception to their liking. Fox is an excellent example and so is CNN. Go read Manufactured Consent by Chomsky if you want a detailed analysis of how mainstream media subverts the whole truth with half truths and uses subtle means to shape the public consciousness and narrative. Tell me if anything I said here is completely unreasonable to you Anyway the reason why all news media are nice to Israel is they have to be. They don't want to be seen as anti-Semitic. Believe me, if Russia had the biggest lobbying groups to the US like Israel does, the media wouldnt be saying shit about Russia either I actually believe you. Israel has the victim card on its side which allows it to get away with whatever it wants. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:905373710] in Which coun... [t:76822538]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Israel no question, only fake news believers would say Russia</quote> Only Trump fans?</quote> Do Trump fans follow CNN? Because theyll have you believe Russia has more influence over our politicians than Israel</quote> Name 5 politicians who CNN thinks are in Russias pocket Like I know your whole gimmick is to make shitposts while youre on dialysis but what do you gain from saying stupid shit constantly?</quote> Thats the thing, they dont actually think that, because they know its not true. However, it certainly doesnt stop them from creating the impression that Russia has more influence than Israel through their style and volume of news coverage on Russia as opposed to Israel. Mainstream news agencies are notorious for not outright lying but leaving out the whole truth such that they can shape their viewers perception to their liking. Fox is an excellent example and so is CNN. Go read Manufactured Consent by Chomsky if you want a detailed analysis of how mainstream media subverts the whole truth with half truths and uses subtle means to shape the public consciousness and narrative. Tell me if anything I said here is completely unreasonable to you</quote> Anyway the reason why all news media are nice to Israel is they have to be. They don't want to be seen as anti-Semitic.</quote> Believe me, if Russia had the biggest lobbying groups to the US like Israel does, the media wouldnt be saying shit about Russia either</quote> I actually believe you. Israel has the victim card on its side which allows it to get away with whatever it wants.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tennisdude818 07/19/18 9:29:57 PM #22:	shockthemonkey posted... Abnormal gets more coverage than normal The fact that we have such a one sided relationship with Israel that the media doesnt talk about, and the fact the media becomes giddy when we attack Israels enemies really shouldnt be normal. The only time the MSM liked Trump was when he bombed Assad. Thats not an example of giving coverage to abnormal, that an example of giving favorable coverage to the war machine. I dont know why I should take these pundits seriously. They are are the wrong side of history during every episode of hysteria about a foreign country. And US intelligence isnt any better when it comes to this. Seeing the left so willing to eat up the Russia hysteria at face value would be shocking to 2004 Democrats, but I guess most people dont have the consistency of guys like Glenn Greenwald and Ron Paul. --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell <cite>tennisdude818 posted [p:905385279] in Which coun... [t:76822538]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote> Abnormal gets more coverage than normal </quote> The fact that we have such a one sided relationship with Israel that the media doesnt talk about, and the fact the media becomes giddy when we attack Israels enemies really shouldnt be normal. The only time the MSM liked Trump was when he bombed Assad. Thats not an example of giving coverage to abnormal, that an example of giving favorable coverage to the war machine. I dont know why I should take these pundits seriously. They are are the wrong side of history during every episode of hysteria about a foreign country. And US intelligence isnt any better when it comes to this. Seeing the left so willing to eat up the Russia hysteria at face value would be shocking to 2004 Democrats, but I guess most people dont have the consistency of guys like Glenn Greenwald and Ron Paul.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cheater87 07/19/18 9:31:34 PM #23:	Isreal, no count, politicians in the US try to outlaw criticism of Isreal. --- https://imgur.com/OlAyuQb https://imgur.com/KnLuqux <cite>Cheater87 posted [p:905385366] in Which coun... [t:76822538]...</cite> <quote>Isreal, no count, politicians in the US try to outlaw criticism of Isreal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gguirao 07/21/18 7:45:06 PM #24:	Russia only has power over Trump. --- Donald J. Trump--proof against government intelligence. <cite>gguirao posted [p:905491514] in Which coun... [t:76822538]...</cite> <quote>Russia only has power over Trump.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bob742omb 07/21/18 7:47:30 PM #25:	bruhs we have lobbying groups that promote israeli interests do russian lobbying groups even exist? if there were we'd probably hear about them by now... i don't think an ARPAC exists --- bob the buster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFNtqC0ETqo <cite>bob742omb posted [p:905491616] in Which coun... [t:76822538]...</cite> <quote>bruhs we have lobbying groups that promote israeli interests do russian lobbying groups even exist? if there were we'd probably hear about them by now... i don't think an ARPAC exists</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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