Current Events > Raptors/Spurs finalizing Derozan/Leonard trade deal

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The Toronto Raptors are finalizing a deal to acquire San Antonio Spurs star Kawhi Leonard in a trade package that includes All-Star DeMar DeRozan, league sources told ESPN.

An agreement in principle could be reached as soon as Wednesday, league sources said.

Leonard and DeRozan are both aware that an agreement could be imminent, and neither is expressing enthusiasm for the deal, league sources said.

Toronto and San Antonio have been talking about the trade for two weeks, and several incarnations of packages have been discussed, league sources said.

Sources close to DeRozan told ESPN's Chris Haynes that DeRozan met with Toronto brass in Las Vegas during summer league and was told he would not be traded.

In a story posted on his Instagram page on Wednesday morning, DeRozan wrote, "Be told one thing & the outcome another. Can't trust em. Ain't no loyalty in this game. Sell you out quick for a little bit of nothing... Soon you'll understand... Don't disturb..."

Raptors president of basketball operations Masai Ujiri is taking a significant risk in pursuing the trade. Ujiri will make the deal with a determination that he can sell Leonard on re-signing with the Raptors next summer in free agency, sources said. Toronto would be able to offer Leonard a five-year, $190 million contract next summer. If Leonard left the Raptors, he could sign a four-year, $141 million deal with a team with the available salary-cap space.

Leonard has been clear that he plans to sign with the Los Angeles Lakers in free agency next summer.

DeRozan has three years and $83 million left on his contract, including an early-termination option for the 2020-21 season.

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh why?
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They should both go to LA for the minimum.
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Bio1590 posted...

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh why?

Because the Raptors aren't going anywhere with their current group and they're getting back a top-5 player in the NBA.
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thelovefist posted...

Bio1590 posted...

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh why?

Because the Raptors aren't going anywhere with their current group and they're getting back a top-5 player in the NBA.

Who is also top 5 bitch made, doesn't want this trade, doesn't want to go to Toronto, and isn't going to stay after this year.
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Raptors going to get screwed.

Kawahi gonna wait out a yr and come to the Lakers bby
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Bio1590 posted...

thelovefist posted...

Bio1590 posted...

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh why?

Because the Raptors aren't going anywhere with their current group and they're getting back a top-5 player in the NBA.

Who is also top 5 bitch made, doesn't want this trade, doesn't want to go to Toronto, and isn't going to stay after this year.

Doesnt matter team wasnt going to win. Now the raps can rebuild after claiming they explored all options.
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E32005 posted...

Raptors going to get screwed.

Kawahi gonna wait out a yr and come to the Lakers bby

Everyone knows he's going to the Lakers.

Masai thinks he can convince him to sign, but if he wasn't going to sign in San Antonio why would he sign in Toronto? This clearly isn't about the money to him.
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Bio1590 posted...

E32005 posted...

Raptors going to get screwed.

Kawahi gonna wait out a yr and come to the Lakers bby

Everyone knows he's going to the Lakers.

Masai thinks he can convince him to sign, but if he wasn't going to sign in San Antonio why would he sign in Toronto? This clearly isn't about the money to him.

Exactly
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Kinda feel bad for derozan
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Uncle_Drew posted...

Kinda feel bad for derozan

Right

Doesn't want to be traded
Toronto said they weren't gonna trade him

At least it's San Antonio.
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Bio1590 posted...

Uncle_Drew posted...

Kinda feel bad for derozan

Right

Doesn't want to be traded
Toronto said they weren't gonna trade him

At least it's San Antonio.

Plus imagine having to leave your pretty much brother, and a crazy good fan base
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Full trade is

DeRozan, Poeltl, and a protected 2019-first rounder for Leonard and Green
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The Spurs look so bad in all this.
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Rudy Gay and Demar Derozan reunited? Well damn.
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dave_is_slick posted...

The Spurs look so bad in all this.

Literally got rid of and something for a locker room cancer
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Does the spurs playoff streak end
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judasmaiden15 posted...

Does the spurs playoff streak end

Kawhi barely played last year.
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Bio1590 posted...

thelovefist posted...

Bio1590 posted...

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh why?

Because the Raptors aren't going anywhere with their current group and they're getting back a top-5 player in the NBA.

Who is also top 5 bitch made, doesn't want this trade, doesn't want to go to Toronto, and isn't going to stay after this year.

Irrelevant.
The Raptors weren't going to win with DeRozan for sure, 100%, guaranteed.
The Raptors probably won't win with Leonard, but now have a much better chance of making it to the Finals now.
If he leaves after one year, and they make it to the Finals, then it will have been worth it.
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Toronto isn't making it passed Philadelphia or Boston lol

Also imagine thinking that unobjectively making your team worse long-term just for a slim shot at *making* the Finals isn't a terrible idea.

judasmaiden15 posted...

Does the spurs playoff streak end

lol no
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Bio1590 posted...

Full trade is

DeRozan, Poeltl, and a protected 2019-first rounder for Leonard and Green

the first is protected 1-20 and turns into two seconds if its not transferred by 2020
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Basically turning DeRozen into Kawhi for a run towards the Finals with LeBron out of the East.

Makes sense since keeping that team together wasn't going to get them there, now they can go all-in this year and hope they convince Kawhi to sign there like Paul George signed with OKC.
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dave_is_slick posted...

The Spurs look so bad in all this.

Only one that looks bad is Kawhi.
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Bio1590 posted...

Toronto isn't making it passed Philadelphia or Boston lol

Also imagine thinking that unobjectively making your team worse long-term just for a slim shot at *making* the Finals isn't a terrible idea.

judasmaiden15 posted...

Does the spurs playoff streak end

lol no

SK8T3R215 posted...

Basically turning DeRozen into Kawhi for a run towards the Finals with LeBron out of the East.

Makes sense since keeping that team together wasn't going to get them there, now they can go all-in this year and hope they convince Kawhi to sign there like Paul George signed with OKC.

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So basically this whole thing hinges on:

-Leonard actually giving effort
-The locker room not being lost over the team stabbing DeRozan in the back

Neat
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SK8T3R215 posted...

Basically turning DeRozen into Kawhi for a run towards the Finals with LeBron out of the East.

Makes sense since keeping that team together wasn't going to get them there, now they can go all-in this year and hope they convince Kawhi to sign there like Paul George signed with OKC.

Kyle Lowry isnt Westbrook. Also, you get taxed like a motherfucker playing in Canada.
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This might be the best thing for Derozans career long term

Bio1590 posted...

So basically this whole thing hinges on:

-Leonard actually giving effort
-The locker room not being lost over the team stabbing DeRozan in the back

Neat

There is no disputing that it is a risky move, but Leonard has every reason to play at his best since it is a contract year.
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He's getting paid regardless, everyone knows what peak Leonard is.
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Raps might as well take there chances with Leonard this season. They weren't going to win anything with there current core. DeRozan and Lowry aren't getting any younger and they are going to have to rebuild very soon Leonard or no Leonard.
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Bio1590 posted...

He's getting paid regardless, everyone knows what peak Leonard is.

If he plays another 6 games this year, or sits out because he has a temper tantrum, he won't get a max deal. That's a guarantee.
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Raps get rid of the coach of the year and then trade the heart of the team for locker room cancer?

Wow
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Raptors got FLEECED
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Muffinz0rz posted...

Raptors got FLEECED

The Raptors got the objectively best player in the deal. How is it that they got fleeced?
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

Raps get rid of the coach of the year and then trade the heart of the team for locker room cancer?

Wow

If you had watched a single second of their playoff performances you would understand why these things needed to happen.
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thelovefist posted...

Bio1590 posted...

He's getting paid regardless, everyone knows what peak Leonard is.

If he plays another 6 games this year, or sits out because he has a temper tantrum, he won't get a max deal. That's a guarantee.

If LeBron says he gets max he gets max.
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voldothegr8 posted...

thelovefist posted...

Bio1590 posted...

He's getting paid regardless, everyone knows what peak Leonard is.

If he plays another 6 games this year, or sits out because he has a temper tantrum, he won't get a max deal. That's a guarantee.

If LeBron says he gets max he gets max.

LeBron is a lot of things - ego maniac, perpetual baby etc., but he isn't an idiot.
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jborgan posted...

dave_is_slick posted...

The Spurs look so bad in all this.

Only one that looks bad is Kawhi.

And Spurs for refusing to trade with LA knowing that that's where he'd rather be and they could get at least one dude with tons of upside. And the Raptors for stabbing Derozan in the back and getting rid of the heart.
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I kinda thought getting rid of Lebron was enough for the Raptors to contend for the East. Sure, Boston is strong, but I dunno if this move makes the Raptors instantly the best team in the East.
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