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FLUFFYGERM 07/13/18 12:49:44 PM #1:	https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/elon-musk-vs-short-sellers.118431/ Deeply profound, educated, and evidenced analysis of the anti-Tesla situation brewing in the media. There is $12 billion in shorts against Tesla floating around. You can observe the pattern in the media where it's obvious that shorts were trying to tank Tesla with fake news so they could make a profit. The same exact thing happened to Fairfax Financial and they barely survived and are now massively valuable. The good news is that Tesla is making profitability and positive cash flow top priorities. This means that they won't be beholden to outside capital and utterly dishonest and toxic investors who want the company to tank. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905009987] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/elon-musk-vs-short-sellers.118431/ Deeply profound, educated, and evidenced analysis of the anti-Tesla situation brewing in the media. There is $12 billion in shorts against Tesla floating around. You can observe the pattern in the media where it's obvious that shorts were trying to tank Tesla with fake news so they could make a profit. The same exact thing happened to Fairfax Financial and they barely survived and are now massively valuable. The good news is that Tesla is making profitability and positive cash flow top priorities. This means that they won't be beholden to outside capital and utterly dishonest and toxic investors who want the company to tank.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/13/18 12:51:23 PM #2:	The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:905010060] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote>The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 07/13/18 12:52:45 PM #3:	s0nicfan posted... The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company. what --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:905010122] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company.</quote> what</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/13/18 12:54:08 PM #4:	MC_BatCommander posted... s0nicfan posted... The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company. what --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905010185] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company.</quote> what</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gafemage 07/13/18 12:54:36 PM #5:	--- https://imgur.com/1EOFcjn https://imgur.com/epjd8zk <cite>Gafemage posted [p:905010216] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote> --- https://imgur.com/1EOFcjn https://imgur.com/epjd8zk</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/13/18 12:55:45 PM #6:	MC_BatCommander posted... s0nicfan posted... The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company. what Everything they do is to sell their batteries. Home solar? Requires a bigass Tesla battery in your home. Electric cars? Bigass batteries. Most of their factory advances have been in making cheaper to produce batteries. Because at the end of the day, other companies will come out with solar and electric solutions, but if all of them have a Tesla battery on the inside, they've won the game. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:905010256] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company.</quote> what</quote> Everything they do is to sell their batteries. Home solar? Requires a bigass Tesla battery in your home. Electric cars? Bigass batteries. Most of their factory advances have been in making cheaper to produce batteries. Because at the end of the day, other companies will come out with solar and electric solutions, but if all of them have a Tesla battery on the inside, they've won the game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/13/18 12:56:55 PM #7:	s0nicfan posted... MC_BatCommander posted... s0nicfan posted... The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company. what Everything they do is to sell their batteries. Home solar? Requires a bigass Tesla battery in your home. Electric cars? Bigass batteries. Most of their factory advances have been in making cheaper to produce batteries. Because at the end of the day, other companies will come out with solar and electric solutions, but if all of them have a Tesla battery on the inside, they've won the game. This is quite a bizarre take. All you're saying is "electric cars require batteries." Like, no fucking shit they require batteries? Their battery in the car would be worthless if their cars weren't excellent cars. And they're consistently excellent cars. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-31/driving-tesla-s-model-3-changes-everything --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905010318] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company.</quote> what</quote> Everything they do is to sell their batteries. Home solar? Requires a bigass Tesla battery in your home. Electric cars? Bigass batteries. Most of their factory advances have been in making cheaper to produce batteries. Because at the end of the day, other companies will come out with solar and electric solutions, but if all of them have a Tesla battery on the inside, they've won the game.</quote> This is quite a bizarre take. All you're saying is "electric cars require batteries." Like, no fucking shit they require batteries? Their battery in the car would be worthless if their cars weren't excellent cars. And they're consistently excellent cars. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-31/driving-tesla-s-model-3-changes-everything</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 07/13/18 1:00:47 PM #8:	s0nicfan posted... MC_BatCommander posted... s0nicfan posted... The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company. what Everything they do is to sell their batteries. Home solar? Requires a bigass Tesla battery in your home. Electric cars? Bigass batteries. Most of their factory advances have been in making cheaper to produce batteries. Because at the end of the day, other companies will come out with solar and electric solutions, but if all of them have a Tesla battery on the inside, they've won the game. Yeah and how do you propose to build electric (or any) car without a damn battery? Not only that, why would this magical realization they sell batteries hurt their rep? It's just a weird ass thing to say --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:905010516] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company.</quote> what</quote> Everything they do is to sell their batteries. Home solar? Requires a bigass Tesla battery in your home. Electric cars? Bigass batteries. Most of their factory advances have been in making cheaper to produce batteries. Because at the end of the day, other companies will come out with solar and electric solutions, but if all of them have a Tesla battery on the inside, they've won the game.</quote> Yeah and how do you propose to build electric (or any) car without a damn battery? Not only that, why would this magical realization they sell batteries hurt their rep? It's just a weird ass thing to say</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/13/18 1:02:23 PM #9:	Anywho, I'm like...inches away from ordering a Model 3. The 310-mile range one with the dual motors. Tempted to get the autonomous driving packages too but that's like another $10,000. Without that stuff, the price of the car is around $60,000 for the dual-motor vehicle. Minus $7,500 once the federal tax credit kicks in. Pretty expensive, but for the gas savings/maintenance savings over the lifetime of the vehicle it wouldn't actually be that much more expensive than a nice gas car. Plus I could be supporting one of the brands that is the imo in the top three most important brands right now. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905010615] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote>Anywho, I'm like...inches away from ordering a Model 3. The 310-mile range one with the dual motors. Tempted to get the autonomous driving packages too but that's like another $10,000. Without that stuff, the price of the car is around $60,000 for the dual-motor vehicle. Minus $7,500 once the federal tax credit kicks in. Pretty expensive, but for the gas savings/maintenance savings over the lifetime of the vehicle it wouldn't actually be that much more expensive than a nice gas car. Plus I could be supporting one of the brands that is the imo in the top three most important brands right now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KJBDEFENDER 07/13/18 1:04:30 PM #10:	s0nicfan posted... The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company. s0nicfan posted... MC_BatCommander posted... s0nicfan posted... The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company. what Everything they do is to sell their batteries. Home solar? Requires a bigass Tesla battery in your home. Electric cars? Bigass batteries. Most of their factory advances have been in making cheaper to produce batteries. Because at the end of the day, other companies will come out with solar and electric solutions, but if all of them have a Tesla battery on the inside, they've won the game. That's right. Solar is only useful if you can use it when the sun shines, or if you can store it (electricity) in bigass batteries for cloudy days or night time usage. --- FO3&NV, "War, war never changes." FO4, "Side Quests, Side Quests never changes." <cite>KJBDEFENDER posted [p:905010720] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company.</quote> <cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company.</quote> what</quote> Everything they do is to sell their batteries. Home solar? Requires a bigass Tesla battery in your home. Electric cars? Bigass batteries. Most of their factory advances have been in making cheaper to produce batteries. Because at the end of the day, other companies will come out with solar and electric solutions, but if all of them have a Tesla battery on the inside, they've won the game.</quote> That's right. Solar is only useful if you can use it when the sun shines, or if you can store it (electricity) in bigass batteries for cloudy days or night time usage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/13/18 1:05:54 PM #11:	MC_BatCommander posted... s0nicfan posted... MC_BatCommander posted... s0nicfan posted... The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company. what Everything they do is to sell their batteries. Home solar? Requires a bigass Tesla battery in your home. Electric cars? Bigass batteries. Most of their factory advances have been in making cheaper to produce batteries. Because at the end of the day, other companies will come out with solar and electric solutions, but if all of them have a Tesla battery on the inside, they've won the game. Yeah and how do you propose to build electric (or any) car without a damn battery? Not only that, why would this magical realization they sell batteries hurt their rep? It's just a weird ass thing to say When companies produce things, they usually go to dedicated manufacturers for specific parts. You may be shocked to learn this, but battery manufacturers existed before Tesla, and many companies use them to mass produce the parts. I've linked to a list of all the companies that do below. I'm willing to bet Tesla even relies on companies for other parts in their car. So the fact that they mass produce their own batteries IS unusual for a car company. As for why it would hurt their rep, Tesla has this weird reputation right now as something other than just another company. Public perception shifting to the belief that all the "good, entrepreneurial" stuff they do is just to sell you batteries could hurt goodwill, especially among early adopters buying their products not because they're the most cost effective, but because they're "Tesla" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_electric-vehicle-battery_manufacturers --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:905010782] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company.</quote> what</quote> Everything they do is to sell their batteries. Home solar? Requires a bigass Tesla battery in your home. Electric cars? Bigass batteries. Most of their factory advances have been in making cheaper to produce batteries. Because at the end of the day, other companies will come out with solar and electric solutions, but if all of them have a Tesla battery on the inside, they've won the game.</quote> Yeah and how do you propose to build electric (or any) car without a damn battery? Not only that, why would this magical realization they sell batteries hurt their rep? It's just a weird ass thing to say</quote> When companies produce things, they usually go to dedicated manufacturers for specific parts. You may be shocked to learn this, but battery manufacturers existed before Tesla, and many companies use them to mass produce the parts. I've linked to a list of all the companies that do below. I'm willing to bet Tesla even relies on companies for other parts in their car. So the fact that they mass produce their own batteries IS unusual for a car company. As for why it would hurt their rep, Tesla has this weird reputation right now as something other than just another company. Public perception shifting to the belief that all the "good, entrepreneurial" stuff they do is just to sell you batteries could hurt goodwill, especially among early adopters buying their products not because they're the most cost effective, but because they're "Tesla" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_electric-vehicle-battery_manufacturers</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/13/18 1:07:35 PM #12:	s0nicfan posted... I'm willing to bet Tesla even relies on companies for other parts in their car. So the fact that they mass produce their own batteries IS unusual for a car company. What the fuck are you blabbering on about, dude? Tesla tries to make as much stuff in-house as possible. They've even automated the production of car seats because they don't want to buy them from other companies. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-07-12/how-tesla-s-model-3-became-elon-musk-s-version-of-hell Automakers generally rely on thousands of suppliers, from windshield wiper makers to electronics manufacturers. But Musk has long argued that the traditional supplier model led to cost overruns and mediocrity. Starting in 2015, he told employees he wanted to make even the thorniest parts of his supply chain in-house. In late 2015 he appointed a recently hired car interiors expert, Steve MacManus, to build a seat factory near the main plant in Fremont. Seat assembly is labor-intensive and is outsourced by every major car company to the lowest-paid workers they can find. Your job is to get us out of seat hell, MacManus recalls Musk telling him during their first conversation after hed started. And so, in one area of MacManuss Model 3 seat line, more than a dozen robots rapidly piece together the front seats, including tiny motors, hinges, heaters, and frames. Tesla claims this is the worlds first front seat assembly line in which no humans are involved at all. The plan is eventually to use Musks tunnel-digging venture, the Boring Co., to dig an underground passageway to bring seats to and from the main Fremont factory, about 2 miles away. They already have a spot in mind. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905010867] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>I'm willing to bet Tesla even relies on companies for other parts in their car. So the fact that they mass produce their own batteries IS unusual for a car company.</quote> What the fuck are you blabbering on about, dude? Tesla tries to make as much stuff in-house as possible. They've even automated the production of car seats because they don't want to buy them from other companies. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-07-12/how-tesla-s-model-3-became-elon-musk-s-version-of-hell Automakers generally rely on thousands of suppliers, from windshield wiper makers to electronics manufacturers. But Musk has long argued that the traditional supplier model led to cost overruns and mediocrity. Starting in 2015, he told employees he wanted to make even the thorniest parts of his supply chain in-house. In late 2015 he appointed a recently hired car interiors expert, Steve MacManus, to build a seat factory near the main plant in Fremont. Seat assembly is labor-intensive and is outsourced by every major car company to the lowest-paid workers they can find. Your job is to get us out of seat hell, MacManus recalls Musk telling him during their first conversation after hed started. And so, in one area of MacManuss Model 3 seat line, more than a dozen robots rapidly piece together the front seats, including tiny motors, hinges, heaters, and frames. Tesla claims this is the worlds first front seat assembly line in which no humans are involved at all. The plan is eventually to use Musks tunnel-digging venture, the Boring Co., to dig an underground passageway to bring seats to and from the main Fremont factory, about 2 miles away. They already have a spot in mind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/13/18 1:08:24 PM #13:	Basically, s0nicfan is either woefully uninformed or he's one of the short sellers literally spending time trying to influence CEman opinions. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905010910] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote>Basically, s0nicfan is either woefully uninformed or he's one of the short sellers literally spending time trying to influence CEman opinions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/13/18 1:10:08 PM #14:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Basically, s0nicfan is either woefully uninformed or he's one of the short sellers literally spending time trying to influence CEman opinions. I'm not one of those bitcoin hacks. I'm just not sniffing Tesla's farts and telling everyone it smells like cinnabons. And the post you quoted was in response to someone who literally said "how do you propose to build electric (or any) car without a damn battery" so don't give me shit for pointing out that you can make products without making every part yourself. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:905010999] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Basically, s0nicfan is either woefully uninformed or he's one of the short sellers literally spending time trying to influence CEman opinions.</quote> I'm not one of those bitcoin hacks. I'm just not sniffing Tesla's farts and telling everyone it smells like cinnabons. And the post you quoted was in response to someone who literally said "how do you propose to build electric (or any) car without a damn battery" so don't give me shit for pointing out that you can make products without making every part yourself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/13/18 1:15:36 PM #15:	s0nicfan posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Basically, s0nicfan is either woefully uninformed or he's one of the short sellers literally spending time trying to influence CEman opinions. I'm not one of those bitcoin hacks. I'm just not sniffing Tesla's farts and telling everyone it smells like cinnabons. And the post you quoted was in response to someone who literally said "how do you propose to build electric (or any) car without a damn battery" so don't give me shit for pointing out that you can make products without making every part yourself. You literally argued something factually incorrect. Your argument was that Tesla is intentionally mass producing its own battery since it's really just a battery company, and that you bet it gets other parts from other companies. And you are implying that their decision to mass produce their own battery while sourcing everything else from elsewhere would somehow hurt their brand. Not only are you factually incorrect about what Tesla actually mass produces in-house, but your argument is a weird non-sequitur even if you were right about your conspiracy theory. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905011285] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Basically, s0nicfan is either woefully uninformed or he's one of the short sellers literally spending time trying to influence CEman opinions.</quote> I'm not one of those bitcoin hacks. I'm just not sniffing Tesla's farts and telling everyone it smells like cinnabons. And the post you quoted was in response to someone who literally said "how do you propose to build electric (or any) car without a damn battery" so don't give me shit for pointing out that you can make products without making every part yourself.</quote> You literally argued something factually incorrect. Your argument was that Tesla is intentionally mass producing its own battery since it's really just a battery company, and that you bet it gets other parts from other companies. And you are implying that their decision to mass produce their own battery while sourcing everything else from elsewhere would somehow hurt their brand. Not only are you factually incorrect about what Tesla actually mass produces in-house, but your argument is a weird non-sequitur even if you were right about your conspiracy theory.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragon56 07/13/18 1:17:29 PM #16:	musk is a wanker <cite>Dragon56 posted [p:905011381] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote>musk is a wanker</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/13/18 1:17:59 PM #17:	Dragon56 posted... musk is a wanker Why are you so upset? --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905011415] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragon56 posted...</cite> <quote>musk is a wanker</quote> Why are you so upset?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/13/18 1:20:56 PM #18:	FLUFFYGERM posted... s0nicfan posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Basically, s0nicfan is either woefully uninformed or he's one of the short sellers literally spending time trying to influence CEman opinions. I'm not one of those bitcoin hacks. I'm just not sniffing Tesla's farts and telling everyone it smells like cinnabons. And the post you quoted was in response to someone who literally said "how do you propose to build electric (or any) car without a damn battery" so don't give me shit for pointing out that you can make products without making every part yourself. You literally argued something factually incorrect. Your argument was that Tesla is intentionally mass producing its own battery since it's really just a battery company, and that you bet it gets other parts from other companies. And you are implying that their decision to mass produce their own battery while sourcing everything else from elsewhere would somehow hurt their brand. Not only are you factually incorrect about what Tesla actually mass produces in-house, but your argument is a weird non-sequitur even if you were right about your conspiracy theory. The fact that they try to produce as much in house doesn't make me wrong when I say they DO get parts from other companies. Objectively, they DO get parts from other companies. So I'm not factually incorrect unless you've got some special definition of correct or facts. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:905011572] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Basically, s0nicfan is either woefully uninformed or he's one of the short sellers literally spending time trying to influence CEman opinions.</quote> I'm not one of those bitcoin hacks. I'm just not sniffing Tesla's farts and telling everyone it smells like cinnabons. And the post you quoted was in response to someone who literally said "how do you propose to build electric (or any) car without a damn battery" so don't give me shit for pointing out that you can make products without making every part yourself.</quote> You literally argued something factually incorrect. Your argument was that Tesla is intentionally mass producing its own battery since it's really just a battery company, and that you bet it gets other parts from other companies. And you are implying that their decision to mass produce their own battery while sourcing everything else from elsewhere would somehow hurt their brand. Not only are you factually incorrect about what Tesla actually mass produces in-house, but your argument is a weird non-sequitur even if you were right about your conspiracy theory.</quote> The fact that they try to produce as much in house doesn't make me wrong when I say they DO get parts from other companies. Objectively, they DO get parts from other companies. So I'm not factually incorrect unless you've got some special definition of correct or facts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/13/18 1:23:50 PM #19:	s0nicfan posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... s0nicfan posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Basically, s0nicfan is either woefully uninformed or he's one of the short sellers literally spending time trying to influence CEman opinions. I'm not one of those bitcoin hacks. I'm just not sniffing Tesla's farts and telling everyone it smells like cinnabons. And the post you quoted was in response to someone who literally said "how do you propose to build electric (or any) car without a damn battery" so don't give me shit for pointing out that you can make products without making every part yourself. You literally argued something factually incorrect. Your argument was that Tesla is intentionally mass producing its own battery since it's really just a battery company, and that you bet it gets other parts from other companies. And you are implying that their decision to mass produce their own battery while sourcing everything else from elsewhere would somehow hurt their brand. Not only are you factually incorrect about what Tesla actually mass produces in-house, but your argument is a weird non-sequitur even if you were right about your conspiracy theory. The fact that they try to produce as much in house doesn't make me wrong when I say they DO get parts from other companies. Objectively, they DO get parts from other companies. So I'm not factually incorrect unless you've got some special definition of correct or facts. lmao at the desperate reach in this response just take the l, dude --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905011718] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Basically, s0nicfan is either woefully uninformed or he's one of the short sellers literally spending time trying to influence CEman opinions.</quote> I'm not one of those bitcoin hacks. I'm just not sniffing Tesla's farts and telling everyone it smells like cinnabons. And the post you quoted was in response to someone who literally said "how do you propose to build electric (or any) car without a damn battery" so don't give me shit for pointing out that you can make products without making every part yourself.</quote> You literally argued something factually incorrect. Your argument was that Tesla is intentionally mass producing its own battery since it's really just a battery company, and that you bet it gets other parts from other companies. And you are implying that their decision to mass produce their own battery while sourcing everything else from elsewhere would somehow hurt their brand. Not only are you factually incorrect about what Tesla actually mass produces in-house, but your argument is a weird non-sequitur even if you were right about your conspiracy theory.</quote> The fact that they try to produce as much in house doesn't make me wrong when I say they DO get parts from other companies. Objectively, they DO get parts from other companies. So I'm not factually incorrect unless you've got some special definition of correct or facts.</quote> lmao at the desperate reach in this response just take the l, dude</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/13/18 1:25:05 PM #20:	Fluffy, you literally just tried to argue that I said something, using your exact words, "factually incorrect". You can argue everything else about my post is misguided, but the only person who's said something objectively, provably incorrect in this topic is you. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:905011791] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote>Fluffy, you literally just tried to argue that I said something, using your exact words, "factually incorrect". You can argue everything else about my post is misguided, but the only person who's said something objectively, provably incorrect in this topic is you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/13/18 1:26:48 PM #21:	Dragon56 posted... musk is a wanker --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:905011881] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragon56 posted...</cite> <quote>musk is a wanker</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 07/13/18 1:27:05 PM #22:	what has musk actually done? --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:905011896] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote>what has musk actually done?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
C_Pain 07/13/18 1:29:59 PM #23:	telsa doing well is the fake news gov't propping that garbage company up --- How quaint. Join the Dank Chamber today: https://discord.gg/YwmDmtZ <cite>C_Pain posted [p:905012051] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote>telsa doing well is the fake news gov't propping that garbage company up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KILBOTz 07/13/18 1:30:18 PM #24:	FLUFFYGERM posted... s0nicfan posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Basically, s0nicfan is either woefully uninformed or he's one of the short sellers literally spending time trying to influence CEman opinions. I'm not one of those bitcoin hacks. I'm just not sniffing Tesla's farts and telling everyone it smells like cinnabons. And the post you quoted was in response to someone who literally said "how do you propose to build electric (or any) car without a damn battery" so don't give me shit for pointing out that you can make products without making every part yourself. You literally argued something factually incorrect. Your argument was that Tesla is intentionally mass producing its own battery since it's really just a battery company, and that you bet it gets other parts from other companies. And you are implying that their decision to mass produce their own battery while sourcing everything else from elsewhere would somehow hurt their brand. Not only are you factually incorrect about what Tesla actually mass produces in-house, but your argument is a weird non-sequitur even if you were right about your conspiracy theory. I'm not sure I really get your position. Batteries are unique in their supply chain from what I can see, in that they are a product line in and of themselves whereas everything else is for the cars. Are they planning on selling their seats to other manufacturers? I think that Tesla is set up to try to be able to produce a profit on its own. What is their target market share? Even if they prove to be a total technological disruptor about 20% of the market share is the cap. GM is current market leader with 17.9% to Tesla's .2%. Realistically if they get 5% of the market share 20-30 years from now I would be impressed. Whereas their batteries they could get 80% market share for other electric car manufacturers if they keep improving and maybe 60% domestic solar share and have a high market share in other industries as well. End of the day this product line looks to have more long term growth potential. --- https://imgur.com/O3syCWD https://imgur.com/k3YiBdG <cite>KILBOTz posted [p:905012069] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Basically, s0nicfan is either woefully uninformed or he's one of the short sellers literally spending time trying to influence CEman opinions.</quote> I'm not one of those bitcoin hacks. I'm just not sniffing Tesla's farts and telling everyone it smells like cinnabons. And the post you quoted was in response to someone who literally said "how do you propose to build electric (or any) car without a damn battery" so don't give me shit for pointing out that you can make products without making every part yourself.</quote> You literally argued something factually incorrect. Your argument was that Tesla is intentionally mass producing its own battery since it's really just a battery company, and that you bet it gets other parts from other companies. And you are implying that their decision to mass produce their own battery while sourcing everything else from elsewhere would somehow hurt their brand. Not only are you factually incorrect about what Tesla actually mass produces in-house, but your argument is a weird non-sequitur even if you were right about your conspiracy theory.</quote> I'm not sure I really get your position. Batteries are unique in their supply chain from what I can see, in that they are a product line in and of themselves whereas everything else is for the cars. Are they planning on selling their seats to other manufacturers? I think that Tesla is set up to try to be able to produce a profit on its own. What is their target market share? Even if they prove to be a total technological disruptor about 20% of the market share is the cap. GM is current market leader with 17.9% to Tesla's .2%. Realistically if they get 5% of the market share 20-30 years from now I would be impressed. Whereas their batteries they could get 80% market share for other electric car manufacturers if they keep improving and maybe 60% domestic solar share and have a high market share in other industries as well. End of the day this product line looks to have more long term growth potential.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 07/13/18 1:30:51 PM #25:	Paper_Okami posted... what has musk actually done? Lowered the cost of batteries. Encouraged lower cost space travel by reusing parts from liftoff. Developed new solar power shingles that actually look better and work better. <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:905012102] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote>what has musk actually done?</quote> Lowered the cost of batteries. Encouraged lower cost space travel by reusing parts from liftoff. Developed new solar power shingles that actually look better and work better.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/13/18 1:31:13 PM #26:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Anywho, I'm like...inches away from ordering a Model 3. The 310-mile range one with the dual motors. Tempted to get the autonomous driving packages too but that's like another $10,000. Without that stuff, the price of the car is around $60,000 for the dual-motor vehicle. Minus $7,500 once the federal tax credit kicks in. Pretty expensive, but for the gas savings/maintenance savings over the lifetime of the vehicle it wouldn't actually be that much more expensive than a nice gas car. Plus I could be supporting one of the brands that is the imo in the top three most important brands right now. Until it starts on fire while you're sitting in traffic.... https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1117266_directors-tesla-model-s-catches-fire-in-l-a Or was that faked by shortsellers, TC? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:905012117] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Anywho, I'm like...inches away from ordering a Model 3. The 310-mile range one with the dual motors. Tempted to get the autonomous driving packages too but that's like another $10,000. Without that stuff, the price of the car is around $60,000 for the dual-motor vehicle. Minus $7,500 once the federal tax credit kicks in. Pretty expensive, but for the gas savings/maintenance savings over the lifetime of the vehicle it wouldn't actually be that much more expensive than a nice gas car. Plus I could be supporting one of the brands that is the imo in the top three most important brands right now.</quote> Until it starts on fire while you're sitting in traffic.... https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1117266_directors-tesla-model-s-catches-fire-in-l-a Or was that faked by shortsellers, TC?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/13/18 1:32:05 PM #27:	C_Pain posted... telsa doing well is the fake news gov't propping that garbage company up They're still operating at MASSIVE losses. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:905012160] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>C_Pain posted...</cite> <quote>telsa doing well is the fake news gov't propping that garbage company up</quote> They're still operating at MASSIVE losses.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/13/18 1:36:49 PM #28:	s0nicfan posted... MC_BatCommander posted... s0nicfan posted... The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company. what Everything they do is to sell their batteries. Home solar? Requires a bigass Tesla battery in your home. Electric cars? Bigass batteries. Most of their factory advances have been in making cheaper to produce batteries. Because at the end of the day, other companies will come out with solar and electric solutions, but if all of them have a Tesla battery on the inside, they've won the game. Yeah. All Intel does is sell rocks. I mean they flatten the rocks and shove lightning inside of them but it's still just rocks. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:905012419] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company.</quote> what</quote> Everything they do is to sell their batteries. Home solar? Requires a bigass Tesla battery in your home. Electric cars? Bigass batteries. Most of their factory advances have been in making cheaper to produce batteries. Because at the end of the day, other companies will come out with solar and electric solutions, but if all of them have a Tesla battery on the inside, they've won the game.</quote> Yeah. All Intel does is sell rocks. I mean they flatten the rocks and shove lightning inside of them but it's still just rocks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/13/18 1:39:12 PM #29:	CruelBuffalo posted... Paper_Okami posted... what has musk actually done? Lowered the cost of batteries. Encouraged lower cost space travel by reusing parts from liftoff. Developed new solar power shingles that actually look better and work better. You forgot to mention how he changed the automotive industry. Everyone knows electric vehicles are the future now. darkjedilink posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Anywho, I'm like...inches away from ordering a Model 3. The 310-mile range one with the dual motors. Tempted to get the autonomous driving packages too but that's like another $10,000. Without that stuff, the price of the car is around $60,000 for the dual-motor vehicle. Minus $7,500 once the federal tax credit kicks in. Pretty expensive, but for the gas savings/maintenance savings over the lifetime of the vehicle it wouldn't actually be that much more expensive than a nice gas car. Plus I could be supporting one of the brands that is the imo in the top three most important brands right now. Until it starts on fire while you're sitting in traffic.... https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1117266_directors-tesla-model-s-catches-fire-in-l-a Or was that faked by shortsellers, TC? Those reports are exaggerated and kept in the spotlight by short sellers and their massive capital, yes. There is no actual problem with Tesla vehicles randomly catching fire or being unsafe. They're amongst the safest cars ever made. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905012559] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote>what has musk actually done?</quote> Lowered the cost of batteries. Encouraged lower cost space travel by reusing parts from liftoff. Developed new solar power shingles that actually look better and work better.</quote> You forgot to mention how he changed the automotive industry. Everyone knows electric vehicles are the future now. <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Anywho, I'm like...inches away from ordering a Model 3. The 310-mile range one with the dual motors. Tempted to get the autonomous driving packages too but that's like another $10,000. Without that stuff, the price of the car is around $60,000 for the dual-motor vehicle. Minus $7,500 once the federal tax credit kicks in. Pretty expensive, but for the gas savings/maintenance savings over the lifetime of the vehicle it wouldn't actually be that much more expensive than a nice gas car. Plus I could be supporting one of the brands that is the imo in the top three most important brands right now.</quote> Until it starts on fire while you're sitting in traffic.... https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1117266_directors-tesla-model-s-catches-fire-in-l-a Or was that faked by shortsellers, TC?</quote> Those reports are exaggerated and kept in the spotlight by short sellers and their massive capital, yes. There is no actual problem with Tesla vehicles randomly catching fire or being unsafe. They're amongst the safest cars ever made.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fahren 07/13/18 1:40:03 PM #30:	Are the massive amounts of quality control issues, especially in Model 3s, caused by short sellers too? <cite>Fahren posted [p:905012610] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote>Are the massive amounts of quality control issues, especially in Model 3s, caused by short sellers too?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/13/18 1:40:12 PM #31:	Tyranthraxus posted... s0nicfan posted... MC_BatCommander posted... s0nicfan posted... The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company. what Everything they do is to sell their batteries. Home solar? Requires a bigass Tesla battery in your home. Electric cars? Bigass batteries. Most of their factory advances have been in making cheaper to produce batteries. Because at the end of the day, other companies will come out with solar and electric solutions, but if all of them have a Tesla battery on the inside, they've won the game. Yeah. All Intel does is sell rocks. I mean they flatten the rocks and shove lightning inside of them but it's still just rocks. People would completely lose confidence in Intel if they figured out Intel just sells rocks. That they're a rock company. Hell, Intel produces their own rocks intentionally. I bet they get other things from other companies, which somehow PROVES they're only producing their own rocks for some illicit purpose. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905012619] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company.</quote> what</quote> Everything they do is to sell their batteries. Home solar? Requires a bigass Tesla battery in your home. Electric cars? Bigass batteries. Most of their factory advances have been in making cheaper to produce batteries. Because at the end of the day, other companies will come out with solar and electric solutions, but if all of them have a Tesla battery on the inside, they've won the game.</quote> Yeah. All Intel does is sell rocks. I mean they flatten the rocks and shove lightning inside of them but it's still just rocks.</quote> People would completely lose confidence in Intel if they figured out Intel just sells rocks. That they're a rock company. Hell, Intel produces their own rocks intentionally. I bet they get other things from other companies, which somehow PROVES they're only producing their own rocks for some illicit purpose.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/13/18 1:42:03 PM #32:	Fahren posted... Are the massive amounts of quality control issues, especially in Model 3s, caused by short sellers too? That's a huge exaggeration. The first vehicles off the line had issues because of the brand new manufacturing process that relies on heavy automation. They had to tweak the automation as they experienced issues at scale. It was all virgin territory and Tesla was revolutionizing the process for the first time in the industry. https://insideevs.com/tesla-responds-to-issues-noted-in-model-3-teardown/ --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905012710] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fahren posted...</cite> <quote>Are the massive amounts of quality control issues, especially in Model 3s, caused by short sellers too?</quote> That's a huge exaggeration. The first vehicles off the line had issues because of the brand new manufacturing process that relies on heavy automation. They had to tweak the automation as they experienced issues at scale. It was all virgin territory and Tesla was revolutionizing the process for the first time in the industry. https://insideevs.com/tesla-responds-to-issues-noted-in-model-3-teardown/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 07/13/18 1:44:50 PM #33:	darkjedilink posted... C_Pain posted... telsa doing well is the fake news gov't propping that garbage company up They're still operating at MASSIVE losses. Amazon barely makes a profit and has barely for years.. <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:905012867] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>C_Pain posted...</cite> <quote>telsa doing well is the fake news gov't propping that garbage company up</quote> They're still operating at MASSIVE losses.</quote> Amazon barely makes a profit and has barely for years..</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fahren 07/13/18 1:44:57 PM #34:	So basically they made shit cars until mid 2017 and still charged out the ass for them? <cite>Fahren posted [p:905012875] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote>So basically they made shit cars until mid 2017 and still charged out the ass for them?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/13/18 1:45:51 PM #35:	Fahren posted... So basically they made shit cars until mid 2017 and still charged out the ass for them? Step up on your main, kid --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905012925] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fahren posted...</cite> <quote>So basically they made shit cars until mid 2017 and still charged out the ass for them?</quote> Step up on your main, kid</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fahren 07/13/18 1:55:22 PM #36:	lmao i don't have a main you people get way too obsessed with account names and pretend like it's an actual counter argument. so which is it; they have massive quality control issues or they HAD massive quality control issues until 2017 oh shit i just noticed it says they improved standard deviation by 40%. so there's still plenty of panel gap, just the most egregious ones have been toned down to just regular poor quality <cite>Fahren posted [p:905013470] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote>lmao i don't have a main you people get way too obsessed with account names and pretend like it's an actual counter argument. so which is it; they have massive quality control issues or they HAD massive quality control issues until 2017 oh shit i just noticed it says they improved standard deviation by 40%. so there's still plenty of panel gap, just the most egregious ones have been toned down to just regular poor quality</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/13/18 2:07:34 PM #37:	Another alt to add to my ignore list! --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905014113] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote>Another alt to add to my ignore list!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fahren 07/13/18 2:10:06 PM #38:	l m a o this is your brain on blind brand loyalty fellas <cite>Fahren posted [p:905014255] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote>l m a o this is your brain on blind brand loyalty fellas</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/13/18 2:11:05 PM #39:	Such a fucking shame that it says there was a new post in your topic even if you can't see the post @SBAllen please fix --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905014317] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote>Such a fucking shame that it says there was a new post in your topic even if you can't see the post @SBAllen please fix</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tactical_Spork 07/13/18 2:12:01 PM #40:	Its hilarious and pathetic how hard youve latched onto a billionare who will never even acknowledge your existence --- "poop porn can be slightly attractive as long as it's not that liquidy sort of poop." ~ hi_polymer https://imgur.com/6GJoJ <cite>Tactical_Spork posted [p:905014365] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote>Its hilarious and pathetic how hard youve latched onto a billionare who will never even acknowledge your existence</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tactical_Spork 07/13/18 2:12:47 PM #41:	also lol @ thinking that assblasted HAHA BLOCKED U posts are a totally sick burn --- "poop porn can be slightly attractive as long as it's not that liquidy sort of poop." ~ hi_polymer https://imgur.com/6GJoJ <cite>Tactical_Spork posted [p:905014413] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote>also lol @ thinking that assblasted HAHA BLOCKED U posts are a totally sick burn</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 07/13/18 2:14:20 PM #42:	s0nicfan posted... When companies produce things, they usually go to dedicated manufacturers for specific parts. You may be shocked to learn this, but battery manufacturers existed before Tesla, and many companies use them to mass produce the parts. I've linked to a list of all the companies that do below. I'm willing to bet Tesla even relies on companies for other parts in their car. So the fact that they mass produce their own batteries IS unusual for a car company. As for why it would hurt their rep, Tesla has this weird reputation right now as something other than just another company. Public perception shifting to the belief that all the "good, entrepreneurial" stuff they do is just to sell you batteries could hurt goodwill, especially among early adopters buying their products not because they're the most cost effective, but because they're "Tesla" I'm still not getting it. No layman is going to find out they manufacture batteries and have an opinion shift on the company. Hell I would have been surprised if Tesla didn't manufacture batteries \_()_/ --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:905014496] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>When companies produce things, they usually go to dedicated manufacturers for specific parts. You may be shocked to learn this, but battery manufacturers existed before Tesla, and many companies use them to mass produce the parts. I've linked to a list of all the companies that do below. I'm willing to bet Tesla even relies on companies for other parts in their car. So the fact that they mass produce their own batteries IS unusual for a car company. As for why it would hurt their rep, Tesla has this weird reputation right now as something other than just another company. Public perception shifting to the belief that all the "good, entrepreneurial" stuff they do is just to sell you batteries could hurt goodwill, especially among early adopters buying their products not because they're the most cost effective, but because they're "Tesla" </quote> I'm still not getting it. No layman is going to find out they manufacture batteries and have an opinion shift on the company. Hell I would have been surprised if Tesla didn't manufacture batteries \_()_/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/13/18 4:04:06 PM #43:	bump --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905020374] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote>bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/13/18 4:56:56 PM #44:	CruelBuffalo posted... darkjedilink posted... C_Pain posted... telsa doing well is the fake news gov't propping that garbage company up They're still operating at MASSIVE losses. Amazon barely makes a profit and has barely for years.. That's very different than operating at losses of billions of dollars a year, every year, even after billions of dollars in government funds every year AND cash infusions from PayPal and SpaceX. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:905023302] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>C_Pain posted...</cite> <quote>telsa doing well is the fake news gov't propping that garbage company up</quote> They're still operating at MASSIVE losses.</quote> Amazon barely makes a profit and has barely for years..</quote> That's very different than operating at losses of billions of dollars a year, every year, even after billions of dollars in government funds every year AND cash infusions from PayPal and SpaceX.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChiefSosa 07/13/18 4:58:17 PM #45:	FLUFFYGERM posted... s0nicfan posted... MC_BatCommander posted... s0nicfan posted... The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company. what Everything they do is to sell their batteries. Home solar? Requires a bigass Tesla battery in your home. Electric cars? Bigass batteries. Most of their factory advances have been in making cheaper to produce batteries. Because at the end of the day, other companies will come out with solar and electric solutions, but if all of them have a Tesla battery on the inside, they've won the game. This is quite a bizarre take. All you're saying is "electric cars require batteries." Like, no fucking shit they require batteries? Their battery in the car would be worthless if their cars weren't excellent cars. And they're consistently excellent cars. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-31/driving-tesla-s-model-3-changes-everything he was trying to hard to sound smart <cite>ChiefSosa posted [p:905023373] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company.</quote> what</quote> Everything they do is to sell their batteries. Home solar? Requires a bigass Tesla battery in your home. Electric cars? Bigass batteries. Most of their factory advances have been in making cheaper to produce batteries. Because at the end of the day, other companies will come out with solar and electric solutions, but if all of them have a Tesla battery on the inside, they've won the game.</quote> This is quite a bizarre take. All you're saying is "electric cars require batteries." Like, no fucking shit they require batteries? Their battery in the car would be worthless if their cars weren't excellent cars. And they're consistently excellent cars. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-31/driving-tesla-s-model-3-changes-everything</quote> he was trying to hard to sound smart</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/13/18 5:06:33 PM #46:	ChiefSosa posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... s0nicfan posted... MC_BatCommander posted... s0nicfan posted... The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company. what Everything they do is to sell their batteries. Home solar? Requires a bigass Tesla battery in your home. Electric cars? Bigass batteries. Most of their factory advances have been in making cheaper to produce batteries. Because at the end of the day, other companies will come out with solar and electric solutions, but if all of them have a Tesla battery on the inside, they've won the game. This is quite a bizarre take. All you're saying is "electric cars require batteries." Like, no fucking shit they require batteries? Their battery in the car would be worthless if their cars weren't excellent cars. And they're consistently excellent cars. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-31/driving-tesla-s-model-3-changes-everything he was trying to hard to sound smart p much just like the people who are pretending they care about profit when instead they just point to Tesla's losses because they want Tesla to die. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905023772] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChiefSosa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company.</quote> what</quote> Everything they do is to sell their batteries. Home solar? Requires a bigass Tesla battery in your home. Electric cars? Bigass batteries. Most of their factory advances have been in making cheaper to produce batteries. Because at the end of the day, other companies will come out with solar and electric solutions, but if all of them have a Tesla battery on the inside, they've won the game.</quote> This is quite a bizarre take. All you're saying is "electric cars require batteries." Like, no fucking shit they require batteries? Their battery in the car would be worthless if their cars weren't excellent cars. And they're consistently excellent cars. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-31/driving-tesla-s-model-3-changes-everything</quote> he was trying to hard to sound smart</quote> p much just like the people who are pretending they care about profit when instead they just point to Tesla's losses because they want Tesla to die.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChiefSosa 07/13/18 5:12:08 PM #47:	FLUFFYGERM posted... ChiefSosa posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... s0nicfan posted... MC_BatCommander posted... s0nicfan posted... The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company. what Everything they do is to sell their batteries. Home solar? Requires a bigass Tesla battery in your home. Electric cars? Bigass batteries. Most of their factory advances have been in making cheaper to produce batteries. Because at the end of the day, other companies will come out with solar and electric solutions, but if all of them have a Tesla battery on the inside, they've won the game. This is quite a bizarre take. All you're saying is "electric cars require batteries." Like, no fucking shit they require batteries? Their battery in the car would be worthless if their cars weren't excellent cars. And they're consistently excellent cars. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-31/driving-tesla-s-model-3-changes-everything he was trying to hard to sound smart p much just like the people who are pretending they care about profit when instead they just point to Tesla's losses because they want Tesla to die. I don't know what you mean by pretending they care about profit <cite>ChiefSosa posted [p:905024079] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChiefSosa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company.</quote> what</quote> Everything they do is to sell their batteries. Home solar? Requires a bigass Tesla battery in your home. Electric cars? Bigass batteries. Most of their factory advances have been in making cheaper to produce batteries. Because at the end of the day, other companies will come out with solar and electric solutions, but if all of them have a Tesla battery on the inside, they've won the game.</quote> This is quite a bizarre take. All you're saying is "electric cars require batteries." Like, no fucking shit they require batteries? Their battery in the car would be worthless if their cars weren't excellent cars. And they're consistently excellent cars. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-31/driving-tesla-s-model-3-changes-everything</quote> he was trying to hard to sound smart</quote> p much just like the people who are pretending they care about profit when instead they just point to Tesla's losses because they want Tesla to die.</quote> I don't know what you mean by pretending they care about profit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/13/18 5:12:23 PM #48:	Are you literally talking to yourself, Fluffy? Or did that no-sig 10 karma alt just happen to pop into this basically finished topic for the sole purpose of agreeing with you? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:905024087] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote>Are you literally talking to yourself, Fluffy? Or did that no-sig 10 karma alt just happen to pop into this basically finished topic for the sole purpose of agreeing with you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChiefSosa 07/13/18 5:13:09 PM #49:	lmao <cite>ChiefSosa posted [p:905024127] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote>lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/13/18 5:13:16 PM #50:	ChiefSosa posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... ChiefSosa posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... s0nicfan posted... MC_BatCommander posted... s0nicfan posted... The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company. what Everything they do is to sell their batteries. Home solar? Requires a bigass Tesla battery in your home. Electric cars? Bigass batteries. Most of their factory advances have been in making cheaper to produce batteries. Because at the end of the day, other companies will come out with solar and electric solutions, but if all of them have a Tesla battery on the inside, they've won the game. This is quite a bizarre take. All you're saying is "electric cars require batteries." Like, no fucking shit they require batteries? Their battery in the car would be worthless if their cars weren't excellent cars. And they're consistently excellent cars. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-31/driving-tesla-s-model-3-changes-everything he was trying to hard to sound smart p much just like the people who are pretending they care about profit when instead they just point to Tesla's losses because they want Tesla to die. I don't know what you mean by pretending they care about profit they pretend that tesla's profitability issue are what they really care about, when in reality they're going to grasp at ANY straws necessary to try to make tesla look bad like, if tesla started being profitable tomorrow these CEmen would just find some other thing to be vile about --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905024135] in Proof that... [t:76803719]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChiefSosa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChiefSosa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>The most damaging thing to the Tesla brand would be if people finally woke up the fact that they're just a battery company.</quote> what</quote> Everything they do is to sell their batteries. Home solar? Requires a bigass Tesla battery in your home. Electric cars? Bigass batteries. Most of their factory advances have been in making cheaper to produce batteries. Because at the end of the day, other companies will come out with solar and electric solutions, but if all of them have a Tesla battery on the inside, they've won the game.</quote> This is quite a bizarre take. All you're saying is "electric cars require batteries." Like, no fucking shit they require batteries? Their battery in the car would be worthless if their cars weren't excellent cars. And they're consistently excellent cars. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-31/driving-tesla-s-model-3-changes-everything</quote> he was trying to hard to sound smart</quote> p much just like the people who are pretending they care about profit when instead they just point to Tesla's losses because they want Tesla to die.</quote> I don't know what you mean by pretending they care about profit</quote> they pretend that tesla's profitability issue are what they really care about, when in reality they're going to grasp at ANY straws necessary to try to make tesla look bad like, if tesla started being profitable tomorrow these CEmen would just find some other thing to be vile about</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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