Current Events > The stock market has been pretty much...up up (Trump does something dumb) dive

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Kazi1212 07/11/18 3:29:10 PM #52:	Darkman124 posted... Kazi1212 posted... Yea, I mean, its clear a lot of liberals didnt think that based on what they were saying how the trade war would hurt the US markets. ill be honest no, it was not obvious to me i held off on investing during his presidency until collins indicated she was going to vote in favor, that was late nov/very early dec. by then i had learned, and it was clear. that was when i threw most of my portfolio long. i left some off the table until jan, then put that on. through everything that has happened since i have generally put new money to work anytime there was a market shock related to a statement made by him/someone quitting his admin, because i've always taken it as an action to fade. markets are going up, trump reliably says things that are false, and in general i assume the opposite is true whenever he speaks. had i trusted markets would consistently rise throughout his presidency and ignore his asinine bullshit, I'd probably have an extra hundred thousand dollars in my portfolio. that was my personal idiot tax. Do you look at technicals? All TA traders I know have been saying the stock market would be bullish, they must be seeing bullish momentum in the charts that goes beyond the level of impact Trump can have on the economy through fundamentals. --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:904895524] in The stock ... [t:76796895]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Yea, I mean, its clear a lot of liberals didnt think that based on what they were saying how the trade war would hurt the US markets. </quote> ill be honest no, it was not obvious to me i held off on investing during his presidency until collins indicated she was going to vote in favor, that was late nov/very early dec. by then i had learned, and it was clear. that was when i threw most of my portfolio long. i left some off the table until jan, then put that on. through everything that has happened since i have generally put new money to work anytime there was a market shock related to a statement made by him/someone quitting his admin, because i've always taken it as an action to fade. markets are going up, trump reliably says things that are false, and in general i assume the opposite is true whenever he speaks. had i trusted markets would consistently rise throughout his presidency and ignore his asinine bullshit, I'd probably have an extra hundred thousand dollars in my portfolio. that was my personal idiot tax.</quote> Do you look at technicals? All TA traders I know have been saying the stock market would be bullish, they must be seeing bullish momentum in the charts that goes beyond the level of impact Trump can have on the economy through fundamentals.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 07/11/18 3:32:15 PM #53:	BWLurker posted... Kazi1212 posted... BWLurker posted... Kazi1212 posted... BWLurker posted... Kazi1212 posted... Did you expect something like this Darkman, was it a common sense move? That Trump's boasting would be largely ignored? Yea, I mean, its clear a lot of liberals didnt think that based on what they were saying how the trade war would hurt the US markets. You realize that the actual effects haven't hit us yet, right? The markets seem to be betting that Trump will cave before too much damage is actually done. Just so Im hearing you right, youre saying it was common sensical the markets would ignore Trump? I mean, the way people were talking about it was as if the damages of trade war would reflect in the US markets even in the short term. The longer term damages would be more substantive, but you would at least see a noticeable downward price movement in the short term in the exchanges, I dont think that was too unreasonable an outlook personally. Trump is famous for talking out his ass. The market takes that into account. I see. I guess all those people such as Darkman must have been stupid for not thinking it was common sense the market would take Trumps bs into account with the price. Do you have other common sensical investment advice to offer that people can profit from? --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:904895731] in The stock ... [t:76796895]...</cite> <quote><cite>BWLurker posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BWLurker posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BWLurker posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Did you expect something like this Darkman, was it a common sense move?</quote> That Trump's boasting would be largely ignored?</quote> Yea, I mean, its clear a lot of liberals didnt think that based on what they were saying how the trade war would hurt the US markets.</quote> You realize that the actual effects haven't hit us yet, right? The markets seem to be betting that Trump will cave before too much damage is actually done.</quote> Just so Im hearing you right, youre saying it was common sensical the markets would ignore Trump? I mean, the way people were talking about it was as if the damages of trade war would reflect in the US markets even in the short term. The longer term damages would be more substantive, but you would at least see a noticeable downward price movement in the short term in the exchanges, I dont think that was too unreasonable an outlook personally.</quote> Trump is famous for talking out his ass. The market takes that into account.</quote> I see. I guess all those people such as Darkman must have been stupid for not thinking it was common sense the market would take Trumps bs into account with the price. Do you have other common sensical investment advice to offer that people can profit from?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/11/18 3:34:03 PM #54:	My portfolio has done really well in the last year and a half. I'm hoping it'll continue. A lot of the growth was driven by UNH's monstrous growth and I'm going long on that because I think we've barely scratched the surface of what it's capable of. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904895852] in The stock ... [t:76796895]...</cite> <quote>My portfolio has done really well in the last year and a half. I'm hoping it'll continue. A lot of the growth was driven by UNH's monstrous growth and I'm going long on that because I think we've barely scratched the surface of what it's capable of.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iHuman 07/11/18 3:35:49 PM #55:	I don't get Kazi's angle, are you trying to prove Trump is making the stock market surge? --- Intelligence is just a 12 letter word, what are you? -Me <cite>iHuman posted [p:904895967] in The stock ... [t:76796895]...</cite> <quote>I don't get Kazi's angle, are you trying to prove Trump is making the stock market surge?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BWLurker 07/11/18 3:36:05 PM #56:	Kazi1212 posted... BWLurker posted... Kazi1212 posted... BWLurker posted... Kazi1212 posted... BWLurker posted... Kazi1212 posted... Did you expect something like this Darkman, was it a common sense move? That Trump's boasting would be largely ignored? Yea, I mean, its clear a lot of liberals didnt think that based on what they were saying how the trade war would hurt the US markets. You realize that the actual effects haven't hit us yet, right? The markets seem to be betting that Trump will cave before too much damage is actually done. Just so Im hearing you right, youre saying it was common sensical the markets would ignore Trump? I mean, the way people were talking about it was as if the damages of trade war would reflect in the US markets even in the short term. The longer term damages would be more substantive, but you would at least see a noticeable downward price movement in the short term in the exchanges, I dont think that was too unreasonable an outlook personally. Trump is famous for talking out his ass. The market takes that into account. I see. I guess all those people such as Darkman must have been stupid for not thinking it was common sense the market would take Trumps bs into account with the price. Do you have other common sensical investment advice to offer that people can profit from? You're putting words in my mouth. I didn't call anyone stupid. Just said that it's not surprising that people don't take Trump seriously. Even Darkman said, whatever Trump says, he usually expects the opposite. Why are you still doing this trolling? You already admitted to supporting Trump on here just to trigger people. <cite>BWLurker posted [p:904895976] in The stock ... [t:76796895]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BWLurker posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BWLurker posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BWLurker posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Did you expect something like this Darkman, was it a common sense move?</quote> That Trump's boasting would be largely ignored?</quote> Yea, I mean, its clear a lot of liberals didnt think that based on what they were saying how the trade war would hurt the US markets.</quote> You realize that the actual effects haven't hit us yet, right? The markets seem to be betting that Trump will cave before too much damage is actually done.</quote> Just so Im hearing you right, youre saying it was common sensical the markets would ignore Trump? I mean, the way people were talking about it was as if the damages of trade war would reflect in the US markets even in the short term. The longer term damages would be more substantive, but you would at least see a noticeable downward price movement in the short term in the exchanges, I dont think that was too unreasonable an outlook personally.</quote> Trump is famous for talking out his ass. The market takes that into account.</quote> I see. I guess all those people such as Darkman must have been stupid for not thinking it was common sense the market would take Trumps bs into account with the price. Do you have other common sensical investment advice to offer that people can profit from?</quote> You're putting words in my mouth. I didn't call anyone stupid. Just said that it's not surprising that people don't take Trump seriously. Even Darkman said, whatever Trump says, he usually expects the opposite. Why are you still doing this trolling? You already admitted to supporting Trump on here just to trigger people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 07/11/18 3:46:07 PM #57:	You're putting words in my mouth. I didn't call anyone stupid. Just said that it's not surprising that people don't take Trump seriously. Even Darkman said, whatever Trump says, he usually expects the opposite. Why are you still doing this trolling? You already admitted to supporting Trump on here just to trigger people. My bad, I just figure if you say someone is not using common sense, you would make the conclusion theyre being stupid. Not that theyre stupid, just that theyre being stupid in that particular scenario, tell me if Im being unreasonable. When I asked Darkman for the source of his original claim that US investors just ignored Trump, you responded with common sense. Which I infer to mean it should have been common sense to think that wouldve happened. Since Darkman didnt think that, based on your logic it would mean he didnt have the common sense to think that, ergo he was being stupid. Does that make sense? Also, Im not trolling here, Im just trying to follow the logic of what you said. --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:904896595] in The stock ... [t:76796895]...</cite> <quote><quote> You're putting words in my mouth. I didn't call anyone stupid. Just said that it's not surprising that people don't take Trump seriously. Even Darkman said, whatever Trump says, he usually expects the opposite. Why are you still doing this trolling? You already admitted to supporting Trump on here just to trigger people.</quote> My bad, I just figure if you say someone is not using common sense, you would make the conclusion theyre being stupid. Not that theyre stupid, just that theyre being stupid in that particular scenario, tell me if Im being unreasonable. When I asked Darkman for the source of his original claim that US investors just ignored Trump, you responded with common sense. Which I infer to mean it should have been common sense to think that wouldve happened. Since Darkman didnt think that, based on your logic it would mean he didnt have the common sense to think that, ergo he was being stupid. Does that make sense? Also, Im not trolling here, Im just trying to follow the logic of what you said.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 07/11/18 8:09:43 PM #58:	Kazi1212 posted... Do you look at technicals? All TA traders I know have been saying the stock market would be bullish, they must be seeing bullish momentum in the charts that goes beyond the level of impact Trump can have on the economy through fundamentals. i try not to put too much trust in technicals. there's a lot of indicators and they're never functional all of the time. but yes. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:904911301] in The stock ... [t:76796895]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote> Do you look at technicals? All TA traders I know have been saying the stock market would be bullish, they must be seeing bullish momentum in the charts that goes beyond the level of impact Trump can have on the economy through fundamentals.</quote> i try not to put too much trust in technicals. there's a lot of indicators and they're never functional all of the time. but yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StarsOfCCTV 07/12/18 1:29:45 PM #59:	@Darkman124 How are we with General Electric? It's been a while since you advised us to buy it. I'm still holding it. --- "What is any ocean but a multitude of droplets" <cite>StarsOfCCTV posted [p:904950282] in The stock ... [t:76796895]...</cite> <quote>@Darkman124 How are we with General Electric? It's been a while since you advised us to buy it. I'm still holding it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 07/12/18 1:30:37 PM #60:	StarsOfCCTV posted... How are we with General Electric? It's been a while since you advised us to buy it. I'm still holding it. it was either 13 or 14 at that time. i dont remember which. if 14, it's been volatile but flat if 13, it's up 7% but it has finished its bottoming process, barring some new horror show. i guess technically it has had an ex-div date since then? so another .75% or so on top --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:904950330] in The stock ... [t:76796895]...</cite> <quote><cite>StarsOfCCTV posted...</cite> <quote>How are we with General Electric? It's been a while since you advised us to buy it. I'm still holding it. </quote> it was either 13 or 14 at that time. i dont remember which. if 14, it's been volatile but flat if 13, it's up 7% but it has finished its bottoming process, barring some new horror show. i guess technically it has had an ex-div date since then? so another .75% or so on top</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krojen 07/12/18 2:03:07 PM #61:	I still feel smart for only buying in the 12s. --- https://imgur.com/hI4hAMb <cite>Krojen posted [p:904952137] in The stock ... [t:76796895]...</cite> <quote>I still feel smart for only buying in the 12s.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/12/18 2:04:17 PM #62:	Krojen posted... I still feel smart for only buying in the 12s. why aren't you buying up UNH if you're so smart, lad? :D --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904952199] in The stock ... [t:76796895]...</cite> <quote><cite>Krojen posted...</cite> <quote>I still feel smart for only buying in the 12s.</quote> why aren't you buying up UNH if you're so smart, lad? :D</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squall28 07/12/18 2:16:03 PM #63:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Krojen posted... I still feel smart for only buying in the 12s. why aren't you buying up UNH if you're so smart, lad? :D Where do you think healthcare is going to end up? --- If you're going through hell, keep going. -Winston Churchill <cite>Squall28 posted [p:904952863] in The stock ... [t:76796895]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Krojen posted...</cite> <quote>I still feel smart for only buying in the 12s.</quote> why aren't you buying up UNH if you're so smart, lad? :D</quote> Where do you think healthcare is going to end up?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mistalightbulb 07/12/18 2:18:12 PM #64:	What happens when you lose all your money in the next depression? <cite>mistalightbulb posted [p:904952993] in The stock ... [t:76796895]...</cite> <quote>What happens when you lose all your money in the next depression?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squall28 07/12/18 2:19:58 PM #65:	mistalightbulb posted... What happens when you lose all your money in the next depression? Probably keep same investments and get it all back when the market rebounds --- If you're going through hell, keep going. -Winston Churchill <cite>Squall28 posted [p:904953092] in The stock ... [t:76796895]...</cite> <quote><cite>mistalightbulb posted...</cite> <quote>What happens when you lose all your money in the next depression?</quote> Probably keep same investments and get it all back when the market rebounds</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mistalightbulb 07/12/18 2:21:18 PM #66:	Squall28 posted... mistalightbulb posted... What happens when you lose all your money in the next depression? Probably keep same investments and get it all back when the market rebounds Damnit. See? All those people who killed themselves during the great depression should shoulda just hodl <cite>mistalightbulb posted [p:904953168] in The stock ... [t:76796895]...</cite> <quote><cite>Squall28 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mistalightbulb posted...</cite> <quote>What happens when you lose all your money in the next depression?</quote> Probably keep same investments and get it all back when the market rebounds</quote> Damnit. See? All those people who killed themselves during the great depression should shoulda just hodl</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/12/18 3:10:18 PM #67:	Squall28 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Krojen posted... I still feel smart for only buying in the 12s. why aren't you buying up UNH if you're so smart, lad? :D Where do you think healthcare is going to end up? Regardless of where it ends up, UNH is going to be a massive player in the space for decades to come. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904956076] in The stock ... [t:76796895]...</cite> <quote><cite>Squall28 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Krojen posted...</cite> <quote>I still feel smart for only buying in the 12s.</quote> why aren't you buying up UNH if you're so smart, lad? :D</quote> Where do you think healthcare is going to end up?</quote> Regardless of where it ends up, UNH is going to be a massive player in the space for decades to come.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squall28 07/12/18 3:37:21 PM #68:	mistalightbulb posted... Squall28 posted... mistalightbulb posted... What happens when you lose all your money in the next depression? Probably keep same investments and get it all back when the market rebounds Damnit. See? All those people who killed themselves during the great depression should shoulda just hodl They really should have. --- If you're going through hell, keep going. -Winston Churchill <cite>Squall28 posted [p:904957768] in The stock ... [t:76796895]...</cite> <quote><cite>mistalightbulb posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Squall28 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mistalightbulb posted...</cite> <quote>What happens when you lose all your money in the next depression?</quote> Probably keep same investments and get it all back when the market rebounds</quote> Damnit. See? All those people who killed themselves during the great depression should shoulda just hodl</quote> They really should have.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/12/18 3:40:29 PM #69:	More on UNH: So, I believe that UNH will become the Amazon of the healthcare space. IE, it will continue to develop strategic partnerships and platforms that actually address real healthcare needs (smoking, pregnancy, obesity) with increasingly smaller marginal costs. And it will reap enormous profits while doing so, just like Amazon has become a titan thanks to things like AWS. With AWS you can spin up supercomputing clusters within minutes for a couple dollars per hour. So AWS has snagged a shit ton of market share and has become crucial to most of the internet we all use today. Despite the low costs, Amazon makes a shit ton of money. I think the same thing will happen to whichever entity becomes the low-cost platform for healthcare solutions in general. And UNH is rapidly transforming into that platform. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904957947] in The stock ... [t:76796895]...</cite> <quote>More on UNH: So, I believe that UNH will become the Amazon of the healthcare space. IE, it will continue to develop strategic partnerships and platforms that actually address real healthcare needs (smoking, pregnancy, obesity) with increasingly smaller marginal costs. And it will reap enormous profits while doing so, just like Amazon has become a titan thanks to things like AWS. With AWS you can spin up supercomputing clusters within minutes for a couple dollars per hour. So AWS has snagged a shit ton of market share and has become crucial to most of the internet we all use today. Despite the low costs, Amazon makes a shit ton of money. I think the same thing will happen to whichever entity becomes the low-cost platform for healthcare solutions in general. And UNH is rapidly transforming into that platform.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squall28 07/12/18 4:13:07 PM #70:	I don't know. Healthcare is such a cluster fuck. I don't see good things happening. --- If you're going through hell, keep going. -Winston Churchill <cite>Squall28 posted [p:904959774] in The stock ... [t:76796895]...</cite> <quote>I don't know. Healthcare is such a cluster fuck. I don't see good things happening.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iHuman 07/12/18 4:14:26 PM #71:	Confirming my shark status, I may have found a 10 bagger in plug power --- Intelligence is just a 12 letter word, what are you? -Me <cite>iHuman posted [p:904959861] in The stock ... [t:76796895]...</cite> <quote>Confirming my shark status, I may have found a 10 bagger in plug power</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BWLurker 07/12/18 4:21:45 PM #72:	iHuman posted... Confirming my shark status, I may have found a 10 bagger in plug power Referring to the Amazon deal with them for the distribution center? <cite>BWLurker posted [p:904960322] in The stock ... [t:76796895]...</cite> <quote><cite>iHuman posted...</cite> <quote>Confirming my shark status, I may have found a 10 bagger in plug power</quote> Referring to the Amazon deal with them for the distribution center?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iHuman 07/12/18 5:40:46 PM #73:	Is that why they are surging? I bought 200 shares when it was below 2 dollars about a month ago --- Intelligence is just a 12 letter word, what are you? -Me <cite>iHuman posted [p:904965190] in The stock ... [t:76796895]...</cite> <quote>Is that why they are surging? I bought 200 shares when it was below 2 dollars about a month ago</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/13/18 11:26:39 AM #74:	please tell me you guys bought UNH and are enjoying today's gains --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905005719] in The stock ... [t:76796895]...</cite> <quote>please tell me you guys bought UNH and are enjoying today's gains</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iHuman 07/13/18 1:36:56 PM #75:	not much of a gain to me, i'm bouncing around penny stocks looking for 5%+ risky and 22nd Century Group gave me a 4% loss, not enough to wipe out plug ~10%, NVAX 5%, SGYP 5% biotech startups can hit it big --- Intelligence is just a 12 letter word, what are you? -Me <cite>iHuman posted [p:905012425] in The stock ... [t:76796895]...</cite> <quote>not much of a gain to me, i'm bouncing around penny stocks looking for 5%+ risky and 22nd Century Group gave me a 4% loss, not enough to wipe out plug ~10%, NVAX 5%, SGYP 5% biotech startups can hit it big</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Uncle Choad 07/13/18 1:44:39 PM #76:	ITT: Everyone is a financial and political genius. --- Oden ska fa sin hamnd. Jag ska doda er alla, sen ska jag dricka mjod med honom. <cite>Uncle Choad posted [p:905012855] in The stock ... [t:76796895]...</cite> <quote>ITT: Everyone is a financial and political genius.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SK8T3R215 07/15/18 12:59:52 AM #77:	Darkman124 posted... StarsOfCCTV posted... How are we with General Electric? It's been a while since you advised us to buy it. I'm still holding it. it was either 13 or 14 at that time. i dont remember which. if 14, it's been volatile but flat if 13, it's up 7% but it has finished its bottoming process, barring some new horror show. i guess technically it has had an ex-div date since then? so another .75% or so on top Thought you were at like 17 or 18 and saying it was a bottom there --- New York Knicks, New York Jets, New York Yankees. <cite>SK8T3R215 posted [p:905098638] in The stock ... [t:76796895]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StarsOfCCTV posted...</cite> <quote>How are we with General Electric? It's been a while since you advised us to buy it. I'm still holding it. </quote> it was either 13 or 14 at that time. i dont remember which. if 14, it's been volatile but flat if 13, it's up 7% but it has finished its bottoming process, barring some new horror show. i guess technically it has had an ex-div date since then? so another .75% or so on top</quote> Thought you were at like 17 or 18 and saying it was a bottom there</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 07/16/18 4:22:46 PM #78:	SK8T3R215 posted... Thought you were at like 17 or 18 and saying it was a bottom there i bought at 17 or 18, i was not calling it a bottom at the time, but rather buying long term, expecting a further 10% decline. i was surprised that it was a further 30% decline, for sure. i started encouraging other people to buy around 13-14. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:905187218] in The stock ... [t:76796895]...</cite> <quote><cite>SK8T3R215 posted...</cite> <quote>Thought you were at like 17 or 18 and saying it was a bottom there </quote> i bought at 17 or 18, i was not calling it a bottom at the time, but rather buying long term, expecting a further 10% decline. i was surprised that it was a further 30% decline, for sure. i started encouraging other people to buy around 13-14.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > The stock market has been pretty much...up up (Trump does something dumb) dive