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frozenshock
07/07/18 4:48:24 PM
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It's a very strange story, filled with rumors and contradictions.

Not sure what the truth is.

From what it appears, a witness published a video of the event, which caused the police to raid his home. There appears to be a big media blackout in Germany relating to the story.

It seems like the only websites reporting on this are those that have a very obvious anti-muslim agenda. Here's an article about it:

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/12618/germany-press-freedom

What is the truth?
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DevsBro
07/07/18 4:55:44 PM
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I was expecting a punchline
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YourDrunkFather
07/07/18 5:00:45 PM
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Expected a joke. Did not get a joke
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ThePrinceFish
07/07/18 5:02:15 PM
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frozenshock posted...
From what it appears, a witness published a video of the event, which caused the police to raid his home.

The home of the witness or the home of the alleged daughter decapitator?
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frozenshock
07/07/18 5:02:39 PM
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YourDrunkFather posted...
Expected a joke. Did not get a joke


What kind of joke features a child getting beheaded? >_>
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frozenshock
07/07/18 5:03:16 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
frozenshock posted...
From what it appears, a witness published a video of the event, which caused the police to raid his home.

The home of the witness or the home of the alleged daughter decapitator?


The home of the one who uploaded the video. Seems I misread, he was not himself the witness, he found the video on a witness's blog and then posted it on youtube.

According to the search warrant, Kordewiner is accused of having "invaded the private sphere" of the murder victim, in breach of 201a of Germany's Criminal Code. This so-called "paparazzi paragraph" -- the legislation of which was launched by Heiko Maas (currently Germany's Foreign Minister), who as Minister of Justice was responsible for Germany's internet censorship law -- is a barely known and rarely applied law, passed in 2015. Among other things, it makes it illegal to take pictures that "display someone in a helpless situation." Supposedly aimed at protecting victims of traffic accidents from being filmed by curious onlookers, the law was already highly controversial when it was debated in 2014, and journalist associations criticized it for jeopardizing freedom of the press.

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TES_Nut
07/07/18 5:03:26 PM
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frozenshock posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
Expected a joke. Did not get a joke


What kind of joke features a child getting beheaded? >_>


A funny one
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TheCyborgNinja
07/07/18 5:04:40 PM
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It's funny to me that burying news to not rile people up is actually seen as less dangerous. How about you let everyone call a spade a spade if that's what they will do?
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YourDrunkFather
07/07/18 5:05:07 PM
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frozenshock posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
Expected a joke. Did not get a joke


What kind of joke features a child getting beheaded? >_>


That's what I clicked to find out. And clearly

DevsBro posted...
I was expecting a punchline


I wasn't the only one
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frozenshock
07/07/18 5:06:17 PM
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YourDrunkFather posted...
I wasn't the only one


I guess my wording was awkward then >_>
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LinksLiege
07/07/18 5:07:00 PM
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frozenshock posted...
What kind of joke features a child getting beheaded? >_>

Give me a minute, I'll think of one.

EDIT: I got nothing.
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slimfizzle2
07/07/18 5:11:32 PM
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TES_Nut posted...
frozenshock posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
Expected a joke. Did not get a joke


What kind of joke features a child getting beheaded? >_>


A funny one

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frozenshock
07/07/18 5:12:20 PM
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LinksLiege posted...
frozenshock posted...
What kind of joke features a child getting beheaded? >_>

Give me a minute, I'll think of one.

EDIT: I got nothing.


Thank god...
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Darkraiomb
07/07/18 5:43:07 PM
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LinksLiege posted...
frozenshock posted...
What kind of joke features a child getting beheaded? >_>

Give me a minute, I'll think of one.

EDIT: I got nothing.

Then I guess it's up to me:

Oh my god! They killed Kenny!
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ultimate reaver
07/07/18 5:46:17 PM
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He'll never be the head of a major corporation
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slimfizzle2
07/07/18 6:00:59 PM
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Darkraiomb posted...
LinksLiege posted...
frozenshock posted...
What kind of joke features a child getting beheaded? >_>

Give me a minute, I'll think of one.

EDIT: I got nothing.

Then I guess it's up to me:

Oh my god! They killed Kenny!

you bastards
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Zikten
07/07/18 6:04:10 PM
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in certain european countries, it's basically illegal to report on news about muslims doing bad things. if a muslim commits a crime they cover it up or they refuse to mention the religion. sometimes they won't even tell what race they are. and just say "a man killed someone"

in this case I bet the headlines in germany are "Man kills daughter"

The german government is desperate to not let muslims appear to look like anything less than perfect people. and at the same time they keep bringing in foreigners with a totally different kind of culture and no cultural training to make them ready for germany citizenship
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frozenshock
07/07/18 6:06:01 PM
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Zikten posted...
in certain european countries, it's basically illegal to report on news about muslims doing bad things. if a muslim commits a crime they cover it up or they refuse to mention the religion. sometimes they won't even tell what race they are. and just say "a man killed someone"

in this case I bet the headlines in germany are "Man kills daughter"

The german government is desperate to not let muslims appear to look like anything less than perfect people. and at the same time they keep bringing in foreigners with a totally different kind of culture and no cultural training to make them ready for germany citizenship


Well in that kind of situation we have one side trying to protect muslims as much as possible and the other side trying to make muslims look as bad as possible. With both sides having basically zero credibility, what the hell are we supposed to do?
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Zikten
07/07/18 6:08:41 PM
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well I think Germany could start by vetting people more before letting them in. and making them take citizenship classes to learn how to be a German. many of these people have totally alien concepts about life to what Germans think of what is acceptable behavior
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Darksaber310
07/07/18 6:11:43 PM
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frozenshock posted...
Zikten posted...
in certain european countries, it's basically illegal to report on news about muslims doing bad things. if a muslim commits a crime they cover it up or they refuse to mention the religion. sometimes they won't even tell what race they are. and just say "a man killed someone"

in this case I bet the headlines in germany are "Man kills daughter"

The german government is desperate to not let muslims appear to look like anything less than perfect people. and at the same time they keep bringing in foreigners with a totally different kind of culture and no cultural training to make them ready for germany citizenship


Well in that kind of situation we have one side trying to protect muslims as much as possible and the other side trying to make muslims look as bad as possible. With both sides having basically zero credibility, what the hell are we supposed to do?


Personally? If you've nothing to hide... I'd rather a surfeit of poor stories taint the view of somebody than learn about the what, 14th Rotherham now? Ten years after it happened. Their approach to bury all related info will only end in upheaval. This isn't 1976 anymore. Every time one of these stories gets suppressed there's more and more info about it.
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Esrac
07/07/18 8:05:06 PM
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None of this is surprising.
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jumi
07/07/18 8:13:10 PM
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KronoCloud
07/07/18 8:19:57 PM
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What is the motive behind the government trying to make Muslims look good???

Its seems like a bizarre conspiracy.
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TheSextMachine
07/07/18 8:22:38 PM
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frozenshock posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
Expected a joke. Did not get a joke


What kind of joke features a child getting beheaded? >_>

I remember dead baby jokes were big in the late 90's.
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frozenshock
07/07/18 8:22:53 PM
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KronoCloud posted...
What is the motive behind the government trying to make Muslims look good???

Its seems like a bizarre conspiracy.


Well, the basic idea seems to be that publicizing the event would inflame hate speech:

In a written statement, Bornemann praised the censorship law for sending "a clear political message that the administration is willing to act against hate crime in social networks." Bornemann was also part of the team that raided Kordewiner's apartment.

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DevsBro
07/07/18 11:56:44 PM
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TheSextMachine posted...
frozenshock posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
Expected a joke. Did not get a joke


What kind of joke features a child getting beheaded? >_>

I remember dead baby jokes were big in the late 90's.

Yep, and there have always been jokes thst started "have you heard about..."
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YodaCrackers
07/08/18 12:00:08 AM
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ultimate reaver posted...
He'll never be the head of a major corporation

Oh, behave...
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Esrac
07/08/18 6:14:43 AM
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KronoCloud posted...
What is the motive behind the government trying to make Muslims look good???

Its seems like a bizarre conspiracy.


Because news stories of Muslims, especially the migrants over the past couple years, be having badly make the government look bad for pushing so hard to take in as many as possible.
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action52
07/08/18 6:53:31 AM
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Wait, it's not like they're covering up the murder. The murder got published in all the usual places. They just don't want to make the grisly details public. And there are real laws about making images of a murder victim public that this witness may have violated.

Doesn't really look like a conspiracy to me.
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Crepes
07/08/18 7:04:21 AM
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Germany have a bad history when it comes to persecuting different groups of peoples. Its not surprising they want to prevent any hate speech that could draw parallels with that.
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Sativa_Rose
07/08/18 8:24:52 AM
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frozenshock posted...
big media blackout in Germany


Guess they don't have freedom of the press.
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