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Howl 07/05/18 1:46:28 PM #154: |
Twin3Turbo posted...
weekoldhotdog posted...Howl posted... I'm not trying to be extremely technical. He just literally stated opposite things. The premise of his first post was based upon the fact that this is a problem because they still exist all over the South today. This notion was refuted in his own post. Now your point that you're trying to make of it doesn't matter if it was 2016 or today it never should have happened is just totally and completely ridiculous. There's a billion issues that never should have happened, what's important about them is whether or not there have since been steps that have been taken to correct them. In this case there has already been steps that have been taken that completely corrected the issue. This is why his post and your post are totally fucking stupid. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 07/05/18 1:52:50 PM #155: |
Your confusing me with a different user. I'm not a teacher and never said that. Secondly the argument I'm making isn't petty. He made a probably false claim about there being textbooks all over the South today that say this. Then he refuted that himself in a later post. That's not a petty argument. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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weekoldhotdog 07/05/18 1:56:15 PM #156: |
So basically you're just trying to win on a technicallity. did you boil that down correctly, because I think someone else already figured this one out, scooby doo.
also, it's "you're" or "you are" not "your". --- Y helo thar buttsecks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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boxington 07/05/18 2:00:53 PM #157: |
MedzXVIII posted...
boxington posted...MedzXVIII posted...Countries with slaves today tend to be "less white" than America thank you for another one --- b-bb-box ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Twin3Turbo 07/05/18 2:06:13 PM #158: |
Howl posted...
I'm not trying to be extremely technical. He just literally stated opposite things. The premise of his first post was based upon the fact that this is a problem because they still exist all over the South today. This notion was refuted in his own post. Except you're still missing the overall larger point here. Books that inaccurately portrayed the true state of slavery existed in modern times. This goes along with the theme presented earlier of people re-writing history to suit their own agenda. Whether or not that was the text string specifically that he was quoting is irrelevant, it's a theme presented in the topic and I'm looking at the issue though full context of the topic. And it does matter that books like that should have never been created in the first place because even if they took steps to correct the issue after the fact, it says something that the books got out there with that message to begin with. I'm not about to give kudos to them for correcting mistakes that very obviously shouldn't have been made in the first place. This calls into question the motivations, integrity and intelligence of the people meant to help educate our youth. It shows that even in modern times, educators are looking to downplay or dismiss certain aspects of history. That means that the people meant to educate our youth are stupidly putting shit out there that is blatantly incorrect and even if they have corrected it the damage is already done. That curriculum has already been taught and undoubtedly there are people that might subscribe to those laughably false beliefs, and they have every reason to because they were taught from what are supposed to be believable sources. That matters. So I will say it again, whether or not there are books out there in 2018, I honestly don't know but the fact that books with that information even existed 5 years ago is very troubling and no, they should have never existed. And your dumbass point about a billion things that shouldn't have happened is irrelevant. We could use that logic about literally anything. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SteveRogers33 07/05/18 2:08:15 PM #159: |
MadDewg posted...
catboy0_0 posted...I had no idea this was a thing. Interesting. But you're not celebrating what July 4th stands for. You just see it as a time to have BBQ and hang out ... Copied to Clipboard!
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weekoldhotdog 07/05/18 2:16:05 PM #160: |
Twin3Turbo posted...
Howl posted...I'm not trying to be extremely technical. He just literally stated opposite things. The premise of his first post was based upon the fact that this is a problem because they still exist all over the South today. This notion was refuted in his own post. Good post. --- Y helo thar buttsecks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 07/05/18 2:18:09 PM #161: |
Twin3Turbo posted...
Howl posted...I'm not trying to be extremely technical. He just literally stated opposite things. The premise of his first post was based upon the fact that this is a problem because they still exist all over the South today. This notion was refuted in his own post. Yes we can use that logic about literally anything. That's exactly why the point you and he were making is bullshit. When talking about slavery you can state "slavery" should have never been an issue, ok, that does nothing and means absolutely nothing when it's a issue that has already been corrected. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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weekoldhotdog 07/05/18 2:26:12 PM #162: |
Wow, he really can't understand the consiquences of teaching a class by a erronious text book can lead to youths growing up with ideals and notions about slavery that never existed. As long as the books themselves are corrected, the minds of the youth are also retroactively corrected to unlearn the misinformation (such as the treatment of slaves being like "prized livestock" rather than inhuman slavery)
Basically they create you. The type of person that argues fact over the internet with people when you are neither a legislature, a governor, a lawyer, or hell, even a teacher, meaning that our breath is literally WASTED on you because even if you were to be like "ooooooooh" it wouldn't made any difference. The damage these books and teachers have caused will be done. --- Y helo thar buttsecks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XXmiznatorXX 07/05/18 2:28:07 PM #163: |
I wonder what race TC is....
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FrisbeeDude 07/05/18 2:30:37 PM #164: |
SpinKirby posted...
XXmiznatorXX posted...I'm black and I didn't know I wasn't supposed to not celebrate it. I kinda just do my own thing and not listen to what I should and shouldn't do based off my race.. no one is telling you not to celebrate it ITT --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XXmiznatorXX 07/05/18 2:32:05 PM #165: |
FrisbeeDude posted...
SpinKirby posted...XXmiznatorXX posted...I'm black and I didn't know I wasn't supposed to not celebrate it. I kinda just do my own thing and not listen to what I should and shouldn't do based off my race.. then why are you specifically asking black people if they celebrated? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XImperialDragon 07/05/18 2:33:06 PM #166: |
I celebrated by making a logo for my best friend's upcoming business venture.
... and then I played Atelier Lydie and Suelle for the rest of the day, until my wife got back from work lol. --- Sony bought Konami and will release a DDR game for the Nintendo 3DS. In this game, you set your 3DS on the floor and stomp on it till it no longer functions. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MacadamianNut3 07/05/18 2:44:33 PM #167: |
XXmiznatorXX posted...
then why are you specifically asking black people if they celebrated? Because he wanted to know whether or not they celebrated based on the following FrisbeeDude posted... the idea of black people abstaining from July 4th has picked up a lot more traction recently and I'm all the way here for it. How is this hard to grasp. He is not telling you what to do --- Roll Tide & Go Irish ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Uncle Choad 07/05/18 2:45:16 PM #168: |
catboy0_0 posted...
I had no idea this was a thing. Interesting. It's part of Barry's legacy. --- Oden ska fa sin hamnd. Jag ska doda er alla, sen ska jag dricka mjod med honom. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hollow_shrine 07/05/18 2:49:36 PM #169: |
I went to see a movie with family. Finished making ice cream I'd been chilling since the previous evening. Cooked dinner. Talked about how consumer unfriendly the American economy is compared to corporate entities. Went to bed.
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AlabamaLove 07/05/18 2:51:56 PM #170: |
nope
chilled with my buddies drinking and smoking the devil's lettuce --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Twin3Turbo 07/05/18 2:58:10 PM #171: |
Howl posted...
Yes we can use that logic about literally anything. That's exactly why the point you and he were making is bullshit. When talking about slavery you can state "slavery" should have never been an issue, ok, that does nothing and means absolutely nothing when it's a issue that has already been corrected. We I stated "it doesn't matter whether it was 2016 or 10 years ago" I was talking specifically about the inaccurate info being put into textbooks. Here, you seem to be talking about slavery itself. weekoldhotdog posted... Wow, he really can't understand the consiquences of teaching a class by a erronious text book can lead to youths growing up with ideals and notions about slavery that never existed. As long as the books themselves are corrected, the minds of the youth are also retroactively corrected to unlearn the misinformation (such as the treatment of slaves being like "prized livestock" rather than inhuman slavery) Pretty much. On an even broader note though, shit like this is the type of stuff that disallows people to understand exactly how terrible the black American experience was from the birth of this country through the heyday of the civil rights movement and how it affects people even to this day. Because accurate descriptions of exactly how bad it was back then is either glossed over or downplayed. This is why it annoys me so much and why we should work harder to ensure that crap like this doesn't happen to begin with, not just try to sweep it under the rug as "not mattering" after we've supposedly made effort to correct the issue. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SweetieBelle462 07/05/18 3:17:55 PM #172: |
I'm not black but why wouldn't they celebrate the 4th?
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UaStankAssMofo 07/05/18 3:20:44 PM #173: |
SweetieBelle462 posted...
I'm not black but why wouldn't they celebrate the 4th? Try reading the topic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 07/05/18 3:27:12 PM #174: |
UaStankAssMofo posted...
SweetieBelle462 posted...I'm not black but why wouldn't they celebrate the 4th? High username to content ratio. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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looked 07/05/18 3:33:17 PM #175: |
The 4th is really just a time to have a big summer cookout or party. Anyone that doesnt want to celebrate that, well its your loss. You have to wave a flag around
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MLGSerperior111 07/05/18 3:45:29 PM #176: |
Not really. But honestly the 4th of July just doesn't excite me.
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FrisbeeDude 07/05/18 3:55:10 PM #177: |
XXmiznatorXX posted...
I wonder what race TC is.... I'm black (if you wanna be super technical, my dad is black and my mother is haitian/Dominican) --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SweetieBelle462 07/05/18 4:09:59 PM #178: |
UaStankAssMofo posted...
SweetieBelle462 posted...I'm not black but why wouldn't they celebrate the 4th? Don't tell me what to do. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RainShower 07/05/18 4:49:02 PM #179: |
about as much as white people celebrate MLK.........
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MedzXVIII 07/05/18 5:11:35 PM #180: |
RainShower posted...
about as much as white people celebrate MLK......... Black people blow off fireworks on MLK day? --- Hi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bishop9800 07/05/18 7:06:48 PM #181: |
MedzXVIII posted...
Black people blow off fireworks on MLK day? really? --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedzXVIII 07/05/18 7:11:57 PM #182: |
Bishop9800 posted...
MedzXVIII posted...Black people blow off fireworks on MLK day? I do not think so. I have never seen it. --- Hi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bishop9800 07/05/18 7:22:29 PM #183: |
MedzXVIII posted...
Bishop9800 posted...MedzXVIII posted...Black people blow off fireworks on MLK day? No, "really' as in, "did you just say that stupid shit"? --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedzXVIII 07/05/18 9:03:07 PM #184: |
Bishop9800 posted...
MedzXVIII posted...Bishop9800 posted...MedzXVIII posted...Black people blow off fireworks on MLK day? Just like saying only white people celebrate Independence Day in America? --- Hi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thelovefist 07/05/18 9:08:54 PM #185: |
I'm Canadian so no
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MedzXVIII 07/05/18 9:11:36 PM #186: |
thelovefist posted...
I'm Canadian so no Happy late Canada Day --- Hi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bishop9800 07/05/18 9:42:07 PM #187: |
MedzXVIII posted...
Bishop9800 posted...MedzXVIII posted...Bishop9800 posted...MedzXVIII posted...Black people blow off fireworks on MLK day? Thats no where near saying that --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MonkeyFriday 07/05/18 10:12:27 PM #188: |
I woke up wore my American Flag undies, shot of my American Guns into some American Soil With American bullets while the rustle of my countless American Flags waving in the air like the flapping wings of a mighty American Bald Eagle reminded me that it is good to be 100% genuine 'Made in the USA' American.
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Kineth 07/06/18 3:42:58 AM #189: |
MedzXVIII posted...
Bishop9800 posted...MedzXVIII posted...Bishop9800 posted...MedzXVIII posted...Black people blow off fireworks on MLK day? Dude. Look at what you're defending. That was a stupid fucking question to ask. It ain't worth it. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MorbidFaithless 07/06/18 3:56:19 AM #190: |
I work at a grocery store and and it seemed like people of all colors were buying traditional fourth of July items.
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RainblowDash 07/06/18 4:03:36 AM #191: |
America is the best place for black people.
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MedzXVIII 07/06/18 8:02:20 AM #192: |
Kineth posted...
MedzXVIII posted...Bishop9800 posted...MedzXVIII posted...Bishop9800 posted...MedzXVIII posted...Black people blow off fireworks on MLK day? Just like saying only white people celebrate independence day in America? --- Hi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Taharqa_ 07/06/18 8:09:16 AM #193: |
RainblowDash posted...
America is the best place for black people. I always kinda chuckle when I see someone say this. By what metric? --- "If you want to move fast, practice slowly...if you want to move like lightning, practice in stillness." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dyinglegacy 07/06/18 8:31:03 AM #194: |
What constitutes celebration?
I had to work, but got paid time and a half for it. When I got off work, we went to mother-in-laws house to eat free food. Later that night, wife and I took our son to watch the town fireworks. I told a couple people "Happy 4th" via PSN. --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017 Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 15062 losses. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaoticKnuckles 07/06/18 11:54:18 AM #195: |
MedzXVIII posted...
Kineth posted...MedzXVIII posted...Bishop9800 posted...MedzXVIII posted...Bishop9800 posted...MedzXVIII posted...Black people blow off fireworks on MLK day? Im pretty sure no one said that. --- You look EXTREMELY immature when you announce that you're about to ignore someone. No one cares, including the person about to be ignored. Just FYI. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedzXVIII 07/06/18 12:08:42 PM #196: |
FrisbeeDude posted...
the idea of black people abstaining from July 4th has picked up a lot more traction recently and I'm all the way here for it. --- Hi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaoticKnuckles 07/06/18 12:10:44 PM #197: |
MedzXVIII posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...the idea of black people abstaining from July 4th has picked up a lot more traction recently and I'm all the way here for it. Alright? That doesnt magically translate into Only white people celebrate the fourth. --- You look EXTREMELY immature when you announce that you're about to ignore someone. No one cares, including the person about to be ignored. Just FYI. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedzXVIII 07/06/18 12:12:19 PM #198: |
ChaoticKnuckles posted...
MedzXVIII posted...FrisbeeDude posted...the idea of black people abstaining from July 4th has picked up a lot more traction recently and I'm all the way here for it. I should have said black people do not celebrate the forth --- Hi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sylverlolol 07/06/18 12:13:35 PM #199: |
JBaLLEN66 posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...the idea of black abstaining from July 4th has picked up a lot more traction recently and I'm all the way here for it. Shut the fuck up you holocaust denier --- This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaoticKnuckles 07/06/18 12:13:45 PM #200: |
MedzXVIII posted...
ChaoticKnuckles posted...MedzXVIII posted...FrisbeeDude posted...the idea of black people abstaining from July 4th has picked up a lot more traction recently and I'm all the way here for it. Again, not what that translates to. SOME black people dont celebrate the fourth. --- You look EXTREMELY immature when you announce that you're about to ignore someone. No one cares, including the person about to be ignored. Just FYI. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedzXVIII 07/06/18 12:15:04 PM #201: |
ChaoticKnuckles posted...
MedzXVIII posted...ChaoticKnuckles posted...MedzXVIII posted...FrisbeeDude posted...the idea of black people abstaining from July 4th has picked up a lot more traction recently and I'm all the way here for it. Every year more black people are not celebrating the fourth? --- Hi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrisbeeDude 07/06/18 12:15:41 PM #202: |
ChaoticKnuckles posted...
MedzXVIII posted...FrisbeeDude posted...the idea of black people abstaining from July 4th has picked up a lot more traction recently and I'm all the way here for it. lol this. my mans is reaching --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedzXVIII 07/06/18 12:16:24 PM #203: |
FrisbeeDude posted...
ChaoticKnuckles posted...MedzXVIII posted...FrisbeeDude posted...the idea of black people abstaining from July 4th has picked up a lot more traction recently and I'm all the way here for it. Every year more black people are not celebrating the fourth? --- Hi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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