Current Events > I left no tip at a restaurant but days later see they charged me $5 xtra. wat do

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Bad_Mojo posted...

Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...

Nope, not paying any "fees" either. Maybe you need to find better cards.

What's the card? Because I would love a card that let's me buy on credit, and doesn't charge me a small fee or whatever. If you buy something for $1,000 with this card, is that all you owe?

Dude this is seriously how any halfway decent credit card works these days.
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I called the restaurant. Main manager wasn't there. I explained what happened to the manager on duty; they said to call back tomorrow as the main manager will be in then and handles money and discrepancies. I told them what they did was theft. No room for confusion, my receipt was clear for the total amount written.

I guess I'll call my bank now but I don't think they can do anything about the overcharge. *shrug*
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My bank customer service line is closed for July 4th -__-

I did threaten a police report but it doesn't mean shit to the manager on duty who doesn't care because its not her direct job. Whatever. Gotta see what happens tomorrow >__>
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fair, next
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Lol reporting to the authorities. They are gonna say if the service was excellent and no tip was left then fair.

alt_no_1_loves posted...

Dude this is seriously how any halfway decent credit card works these days.

You have to understand that I'm a bit older than a lot of you on here, so I'm a bit behind the times with this stuff. I can't thank everyone enough for correcting me on things.
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Bad_Mojo posted...

Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

Stop being a cheap pos and tip.

You people are the fucking worst. You honestly think someone deserves a tip if they give you bad service?

I think if I was getting crappy service I would say something instead of not tipping. If you just don't tip you don't signal that the service was bad. They'd just assume you're cheap and move on.

Most anti tipping people try and turn it into a principle so they can avoid admitting they're just cheap.

People don't like cheap people. People hate going out with cheap people.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

I think if I was getting crappy service I would say something instead of not tipping. If you just don't tip you don't signal that the service was bad. They'd just assume you're cheap and move on.

That's a fair point
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myzz7 posted...

I called the restaurant. Main manager wasn't there. I explained what happened to the manager on duty; they said to call back tomorrow as the main manager will be in then and handles money and discrepancies. I told them what they did was theft. No room for confusion, my receipt was clear for the total amount written.

I guess I'll call my bank now but I don't think they can do anything about the overcharge. *shrug*

Is it debit or credit?

Anyways you'd call back tomorrow. Not go to the card yet at least if it's credit. I don't know that debit will do anything.

Wasssup Now posted...

Lol reporting to the authorities. They are gonna say if the service was excellent and no tip was left then fair.

Even if he had left a tip they wouldn't care. Cops don't care about 5 bucks. I doubt a cop even responds.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

Even if he had left a tip they wouldn't care. Cops don't care about 5 bucks. I doubt a cop even responds.

Petit Larceny. Defined as the theft of property or services valued at less than $200, or the theft of property valued at less than $5 when taken directly from the person of another.

Petit larceny is classified as a class 1 misdemeanor under Virginia law (Va. Code Ann. 18.2-96.), punishable by confinement in jail for not more than 12 months, a fine of not more than $2,500, or both. ( 18.2-11(a).)

All I have to do is go to the police station. File a report. And it doesn't matter what a cop thinks, he is there to enforce the law. So he will enforce the law if I can't resolve this by tomorrow with the restaurant first.
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myzz7 posted...

Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

Even if he had left a tip they wouldn't care. Cops don't care about 5 bucks. I doubt a cop even responds.

Petit Larceny. Defined as the theft of property or services valued at less than $200, or the theft of property valued at less than $5 when taken directly from the person of another.

Petit larceny is classified as a class 1 misdemeanor under Virginia law (Va. Code Ann. 18.2-96.), punishable by confinement in jail for not more than 12 months, a fine of not more than $2,500, or both. ( 18.2-11(a).)

All I have to do is go to the police station. File a report. And it doesn't matter what a cop thinks, he is there to enforce the law. So he will enforce the law if I can't resolve this by tomorrow with the restaurant first.

As someone who worked in a loss prevention department the cops wouldn't make an arrest for under 50 dollars. Yes its theft but the DA isn't going to charge it anyways so the cops don't waste their time.

Maybe your da isn't as busy but I can't imagine there are many out there that are gonna follow up on 5 dollars.
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myzz7 posted...

I called the restaurant. Main manager wasn't there. I explained what happened to the manager on duty; they said to call back tomorrow as the main manager will be in then and handles money and discrepancies. I told them what they did was theft. No room for confusion, my receipt was clear for the total amount written.

I guess I'll call my bank now but I don't think they can do anything about the overcharge. *shrug*

lol
myzz7 posted...

My bank customer service line is closed for July 4th -__-

I did threaten a police report but it doesn't mean shit to the manager on duty who doesn't care because its not her direct job. Whatever. Gotta see what happens tomorrow >__>

lol

myzz7 posted...

Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

Even if he had left a tip they wouldn't care. Cops don't care about 5 bucks. I doubt a cop even responds.

Petit Larceny. Defined as the theft of property or services valued at less than $200, or the theft of property valued at less than $5 when taken directly from the person of another.

Petit larceny is classified as a class 1 misdemeanor under Virginia law (Va. Code Ann. 18.2-96.), punishable by confinement in jail for not more than 12 months, a fine of not more than $2,500, or both. ( 18.2-11(a).)

All I have to do is go to the police station. File a report. And it doesn't matter what a cop thinks, he is there to enforce the law. So he will enforce the law if I can't resolve this by tomorrow with the restaurant first.

lol

Successful troll tipping topic is successful. Nice work.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

As someone who worked in a loss prevention department the cops wouldn't make an arrest for under 50 dollars. Yes its theft but the DA isn't going to charge it anyways so the cops don't waste their time.

Maybe your da isn't as busy but I can't imagine there are many out there that are gonna follow up on 5 dollars.

Yes it could be that way. I doubt the restaurant wants to play chicken with a police report. Or with yelp reviews and public internet knowledge that their establishment tolerates theft.
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SomeGuyUO posted...

Don't call the restaurant, call the bank or credit card company.

This. Report it as fraud.
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blablablax17 posted...

If you don't want to tip (which is fine Imo) make sure you put $0 on the tip line, so they write it in themselves.

This too.

Edit: Okay I see in this case TC already did something like that. But this is still good advice in general if you want to decrease the chance of someone writing in a tip.
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Bad_Mojo posted...

This is why you never use a card unless it's a credit card and you're buying something at an actual store. Never let those fools put more charges on your card. Pay in cash, tip in cash. Never any other way

Please never give financial advice ever again.
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GregShmedley posted...

Anteaterking posted...

Bad_Mojo posted...

This is why you never use a card unless it's a credit card and you're buying something at an actual store. Never let those fools put more charges on your card. Pay in cash, tip in cash. Never any other way

Please never give financial advice ever again.

What's wrong with his advice?

He forgot to tell people to put on their tin foil hats before paying with their card, that's what.
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stone posted...

GregShmedley posted...

Anteaterking posted...

Bad_Mojo posted...

This is why you never use a card unless it's a credit card and you're buying something at an actual store. Never let those fools put more charges on your card. Pay in cash, tip in cash. Never any other way

Please never give financial advice ever again.

What's wrong with his advice?

He forgot to tell people to put on their tin foil hats before paying with their card, that's what.

I mean, is it really a bad thing to be cautious with your card? There's too many evil-minded people in the world to at least not be cautious to some degree.
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DreamwaIker posted...

SomeGuyUO posted...

Don't call the restaurant, call the bank or credit card company.

This. Report it as fraud.

You call the restaurant first.

If its credit you need to do all you can to work it out with the business before you dispute the charge.
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GregShmedley posted...

What's wrong with his advice?

The expected amount of money that you lose in a year to "tip fraud" is eclipsed by the amount you get in points back for using a credit card.
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Banjo2553 posted...

stone posted...

GregShmedley posted...

Anteaterking posted...

Bad_Mojo posted...

This is why you never use a card unless it's a credit card and you're buying something at an actual store. Never let those fools put more charges on your card. Pay in cash, tip in cash. Never any other way

Please never give financial advice ever again.

What's wrong with his advice?

He forgot to tell people to put on their tin foil hats before paying with their card, that's what.

I mean, is it really a bad thing to be cautious with your card? There's too many evil-minded people in the world to at least not be cautious to some degree.

There's cautious, and then there's paranoid.
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Call your bank/creditor and report a fraudulent transaction. You'll get your 5 dollars back and the cost of the meal because of their behavior. Your card will be deactivated and you'll either have to wait to get a new one in the mail or just go to your local bank branch and get a new card.

:)

Aside from @Bad_Mojo, never take financial advice from @GregShmedley either. Terrible, terrible conspiracy theories. I bet they put their wallets in their front pockets for fear of some dude stealing it
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Cornmuffins posted...

This happened.

Bad_Mojo posted...

This is why you never use a card unless it's a credit card and you're buying something at an actual store. Never let those fools put more charges on your card. Pay in cash, tip in cash. Never any other way

What? That's straight up paranoia. These types of things don't happen very often, are you really going to live in fear for something that may occur .01% of the time?

This is dumb advice.

Fix'd
This could all be easily avoided by checking your statement which could be done from your phone
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CE will always be CE...

TC shouldn't ignore this and is correct to report it to either the police or his bank to get the money back. Also yelp review is a must to warn other customers .

Seems like most on CE do not realize that if the establishment did it once, they probably do it to a lot of customers or change tip amount slightly hoping customer won't care or wont notice. Multiply $5 by a lot of customers, that can escale quickly and be a considerable amount of money.
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do people not get a notification on their phone any time their credit card is used? I'd know instantly if someone else ever made a charge
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GregShmedley posted...

I mean sure, assuming someone has a card with those benefits. But you aren't just leaving yourself open to tip fraud; you are leaving yourself open to someone taking your info. I mean...another person literally has your card number, expiration date, and any security code it has in their hands.

Feel like your comment was flat out unnecessary considering he is simply advocating being protective of your own information.

I'm not even talking about some card with crazy benefits. Any card with any benefits whatsoever will outpace tip fraud.

As far as other fraud is concerned, a majority of credit card fraud comes from systems being hacked and use on questionable websites, not from people writing down your info in the back when they run your card. The reason you and Bad_Mojo are being criticized is because you're trying to downplay paranoia as "just being cautious", when you're actually getting nickled and dimed along the way for it.

The best way to protect your credit card is to periodically check your purchases, which you should be doing anyway (the same way you would balance a checkbook). Modern credit protection does wonders.
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GregShmedley posted...

Again, I don't practice what Mojo does. I am simply defending against unnecessary criticism and childlike mockery for how he chooses to spend his money.

I don't care how he spends his money. He just shouldn't be giving advice to people when he doesn't know how credit cards work in the modern age.
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anyone that tips no matter the circumstances is a fucking cash cuck and deserves zero respect.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

Call the restaurant and make them aware.

If they don't fix it call the credit card company and dispute the charge.

Stop being a cheap pos and tip.

if you want to feel pressured to tip because you are easy to bend or want to feel lile you're superior go ahead. doesn't make others "cheap"
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Solid Snake07 posted...

not tipping does make you an asshole

no
the asshole is the unskilled entitled worker who willingly accepted the job then gets upset not everyone will play their stupid scam
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You're really going to go through all this headache for $5?

This is why you only pay cash at restaurants.

Also, you are never obligated to tip. People have been conditioned into believing that you absolutely must but nope. Bad service warrants no tip.
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ModLogic posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

not tipping does make you an asshole

no
the asshole is the unskilled entitled worker who willingly accepted the job then gets upset not everyone will play their stupid scam

I think the asshole is the sheltered entitled customer who thinks servers whom sometimes don't make minimum wage are scammers.

I think you've mixed up waiters and waitresses with people who work with insurance, car sales, etc.

Learn a lesson from it and move on.
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Wasssup Now posted...

ModLogic posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

not tipping does make you an asshole

no
the asshole is the unskilled entitled worker who willingly accepted the job then gets upset not everyone will play their stupid scam

I think the asshole is the sheltered entitled customer who thinks servers whom sometimes don't make minimum wage are scammers.

I think you've mixed up waiters and waitresses with people who work with insurance, car sales, etc.

The only servers who make less than min wage are ones who work in dead places or suck at their jobs. Servers who work in nice places and are actually good make way more than minimum wage
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So the restaurant decided to give me back $5 (will take a day or 2 via credit return) because they claim it was a cashier input issue and not the server who stole money. They said servers don't handle the cashout finalization. They told me that one of their cashiers accidentally mixed up my receipt with another one at a similar time of my meal and it being only 3 cents difference from my total amount is what confused the cashier to put the $5 added tip amount from another receipt to my receipt.

So no reimbursement of my meal expense because they said I didn't complain to a manager while I was there about the service. They deny any thievery and cited it as a mistake and didn't say much else.

:l
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Well at least they're giving you your $5 back, and they admitted it was most likely an input error. What more did you want/expect?
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I don't see why you would get a reimbursement of your whole meal over $5

Wasssup Now posted...

ModLogic posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

not tipping does make you an asshole

no
the asshole is the unskilled entitled worker who willingly accepted the job then gets upset not everyone will play their stupid scam

I think the asshole is the sheltered entitled customer who thinks servers whom sometimes don't make minimum wage are scammers.

I think you've mixed up waiters and waitresses with people who work with insurance, car sales, etc.

no im pretty sure ive accurately identified the entitled scammer. theres a reason these type keep signing on for a job that doesn't "guarantee" a set wage and then whine about it.
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I typically pay cash at restaurants because I hear some places may try to steal your credit card information. Also how would you pay if you went to a cash only restaurant if you only had a card? I also once went to a restaurant and the card machine broke. I was able to pay quickly, but the rest of the group had to wait a long time.
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