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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/02/18 9:26:31 PM
#151:


iHuman posted...
I don't know that, but equating the two is dishonest and reeks of desperation. You're free to make your assumptions but don't lie to do so, he didn't tweet that he retweeted it.


>"people retweet things just to show they are ridiculous"
>"you arguing against that point is desperation"

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Anteaterking
07/02/18 9:34:04 PM
#152:


KhanJohnny posted...
That's a poor analogy. Genocide is a crime, and you cant charge people with a crime that doesn't exist at the time without violating the rule of legality.


Genocide may be a crime, but it's not defined as a crime. The concept of genocide exists independently of the legal system, whereas something like murder doesn't.

Not to mention that the Nuremburg Trials charged the Nazis with "crimes against humanity" despite the fact that there was no formal legal statutes describing what they were.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/02/18 9:35:38 PM
#153:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Kruppe posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
What do you want me to respond to, this literal strawman?

It's not a strawman. I accurately represented your style of argument

I was referring to the rest of hockey's post you two said I ignored, geniuses.


"I didn't ignore it! I just refrained from calling it a strawman! Now that I've been called out for ignoring it, it's a strawman!"

K

Also, if you're argument wasn't unpopular, why was I 33 or 34 the first time I ever saw someone claim Nazis are left wing and why has the list of people who claim that (as far as I know) not grown to be longer than the one name that was on it initially... your name?
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Kruppe
07/02/18 9:39:17 PM
#154:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Kruppe posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
What do you want me to respond to, this literal strawman?

It's not a strawman. I accurately represented your style of argument

I was referring to the rest of hockey's post you two said I ignored, geniuses.


"I didn't ignore it! I just refrained from calling it a strawman! Now that I've been called out for ignoring it, it's a strawman!"

K

Also, if you're argument wasn't unpopular, why was I 33 or 34 the first time I ever saw someone claim Nazis are left wing and why has the list of people who claim that (as far as I know) not grown to be longer than the one name that was on it initially... your name?

The number of people who think the Nazis were leftist is equal to the number of posters named "Mal_Fet" on gamefaqs.gamespot.com
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hockeybub89
07/02/18 9:45:37 PM
#155:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
How many times have you equated ethnic cleansing with right-wing policy now?

Not right-wing policy. A specific right-wing policy.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
Seriously, give me your definition of "right-wing". Because you seem to believe it means "white people being racist and evil".


Holy fuck. Again, Stalin was left-wing. Fascism and Communism are diametrically opposed. Fascism never even asks for democracy. By your logic, absolute monarchies are inherently left. Fascism is not about abolishing private property and removing individuality. Fascism is not about rejecting and overthrowing tradition. They don't want to recruit the world to their cause, even by violent means. They want to kill the world that isn't already part of their cause. Fascism is a burning example of classism. Fascism works with the rich. Communism eats them. Fascism doesn't see brutal military violence as a means to an end. It is the end. Ethnonationalism is not a bipartisan policy no matter how you slice it.
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iHuman
07/02/18 9:49:18 PM
#156:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
>"you arguing against that point is desperation"

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Anteaterking
07/02/18 9:53:58 PM
#157:


hockeybub89 posted...
Holy f***. Again, Stalin was left-wing. Fascism and Communism are diametrically opposed. Fascism never even asks for democracy. By your logic, absolute monarchies are inherently left. Fascism is not about abolishing private property and removing individuality. Fascism is not about rejecting and overthrowing tradition. They don't want to recruit the world to their cause, even by violent means. They want to kill the world that isn't already part of their cause. Fascism is a burning example of classism. Fascism works with the rich. Communism eats them. Fascism doesn't see brutal military violence as a means to an end. It is the end. Ethnonationalism is not a bipartisan policy no matter how you slice it.


It's no use arguing this with him on this. He thinks communism begins and ends with "seizing the means of production" and completely ignores the part where it's the proletariat doing it rather than the ruling class.
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hockeybub89
07/02/18 9:54:53 PM
#158:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
You believe leftist governments aren't nationalist or exceptionalist?

Not all leftists, but communists. Communism is the antithesis of nationalism. They don't give a damn about their country. They care about communism. You know that globalism conservatives whine about? Communists want that to the extreme. Get rid of nations, religions, classes, ethnicities, all groups. And before you get cute, I don't mean they want to exterminate ethnicities. I mean they don't even want to acknowledge the concept. Equality to a fault.
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hockeybub89
07/02/18 9:55:21 PM
#159:


Anteaterking posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Holy f***. Again, Stalin was left-wing. Fascism and Communism are diametrically opposed. Fascism never even asks for democracy. By your logic, absolute monarchies are inherently left. Fascism is not about abolishing private property and removing individuality. Fascism is not about rejecting and overthrowing tradition. They don't want to recruit the world to their cause, even by violent means. They want to kill the world that isn't already part of their cause. Fascism is a burning example of classism. Fascism works with the rich. Communism eats them. Fascism doesn't see brutal military violence as a means to an end. It is the end. Ethnonationalism is not a bipartisan policy no matter how you slice it.


It's no use arguing this with him on this. He thinks communism begins and ends with "seizing the means of production" and completely ignores the part where it's the proletariat doing it rather than the ruling class.

Yeah I'm gonna go play Yakuza.
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Sephiroth1288
07/02/18 10:10:15 PM
#160:


hockeybub89 posted...
Holy f***. Again, Stalin was left-wing. Fascism and Communism are diametrically opposed. Fascism never even asks for democracy. By your logic, absolute monarchies are inherently left. Fascism is not about abolishing private property and removing individuality. Fascism is not about rejecting and overthrowing tradition. They don't want to recruit the world to their cause, even by violent means. They want to kill the world that isn't already part of their cause. Fascism is a burning example of classism. Fascism works with the rich. Communism eats them. Fascism doesn't see brutal military violence as a means to an end. It is the end. Ethnonationalism is not a bipartisan policy no matter how you slice it.

You keep listing ways that fascism is different from communism as if that means fascists cannot be left-wing. Are you under the impression that only communists are left-wing or something?

As for ethnonationalism, you said earlier that FDR didn't have an ethno-centric motivation for rounding up all Japanese people. Ok, so why didn't he round up every German and Italian? Obviously there was an ethnic impetus behind the Japanese internment. Obviously there was an ethnic impetus behind Stalin driving out and murdering Crimean Tatars. There is no way, in hell, that you can say without the help of some powerful ignorance that ethnonationalism is exclusive right-wing dictatorships.

hockeybub89 posted...
Not all leftists, but communists. Communism is the antithesis of nationalism. They don't give a damn about their country.

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Yeah ok, I'm gonna go play Stellaris (a much better game than Yakuza)
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mcpwnia
07/02/18 11:50:38 PM
#161:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
I don't defend killing jewish people, obviously

I don't believe this for a second. You'd defend that to the death if your shitty idols were in favor of it
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Sephiroth1288
07/02/18 11:54:08 PM
#162:


mcpwnia posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
I don't defend killing jewish people, obviously

I don't believe this for a second. You'd defend that to the death if your shitty idols were in favor of it

Ok well screw you.
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