Current Events > Company pulls 'Boys Will Be Boys' T-shirt after liberals claim it's rape culture

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Genocet_10-325 posted...

Omega Hunter posted...

Genocet_10-325 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

creativerealms posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Romulox28 posted...

i have never heard anyone say "boys will be boys" in regards to sexual assault

normally its when a young boy comes home dirty from playing with his friends or a guy is showing off his truck or something

yep. but third wave feminism is all about man hating. they want a completely gynocentric society.

No that's what Radical feminism is. You may not believe this but third wave feminism and radical feminism are not the same thing.

lol at thinking third wave feminism isnt radical feminism

It's not. Radical feminists are a small subset of feminism as a whole. Stop thinking tumblrinas represent all feminists

It absolutely is you're about as ignorant as they come. Third wave feminism is what brought us the wage gap lie and equality of outcome doctrine.

The wage gap is not a lie lmfao stop making shit up. And radical Tumblr feminists are looked down on by rational feminists.

Eh the Wage Gap is sort of a lie.

For starters Women are NOT paid 75 cents for every dollar a man makes.

For 2. In a lot of fields women earn more for the same work. Teaching, customer service etc

And the biggest one, in most cases when men earn more than women for the "same work" it's due to experience, not sexism. Got a dude who has been a successful Ad Exec for 17 years and a girl who is in her 2 second year and barely 23? Guess who is earning more.

There's very little evidence to suggest big businsess is like "Hey Jack and Jill both want a job? Let's pay Jack 25% more because he has a big penis and I like those!"

And the proof is in the pudding, if that WAS Truth, every businsess under the sun would just hire women so they could pay them less. Save 25% of bottom line in wages.

"Myth" is a better term than "lie" the wage gap is a "myth"
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yeah remember when that whole natalee holloway thing went down in aruba and everyone was like "gee shucks, boys will be boys!" and had a good laugh?
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stop taking genocet seriously
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The Trent posted...

yeah remember when that whole natalee holloway thing went down in aruba and everyone was like "gee shucks, boys will be boys!" and had a good laugh?

that literally didnt happen
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Choco posted...

context matters

i've only ever heard that phrase used as an excuse for inappropriate behavior towards women

what, I've heard it in V shows when boys get in a scuffle at school WTF you talking about >_>
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catboy0_0 posted...

stop taking genocet seriously

Of course, anyone who isn't a radical right winger is dismissed as a troll around here.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

The Trent posted...

yeah remember when that whole natalee holloway thing went down in aruba and everyone was like "gee shucks, boys will be boys!" and had a good laugh?

that literally didnt happen

Gotta love selective amnesia.
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oh...well...remember when nicole simpson got stabbed to death in her home and everyone was like "OH THAT OJ...well, boys will be boys, after all" and had a good laugh?
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Genocet_10-325 posted...

catboy0_0 posted...

stop taking genocet seriously

Of course, anyone who isn't a radical right winger is dismissed as a troll around here.

Wut

2 different users gave a reasonable and detailed response to you and you ignored them to complain that you are dismissed...
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oh oh oh remember when the duke lacross team got accused of gangraping that chick and everyone was like "well, they ARE athletes and as we all know BOYS WILL BE BOYS" and everyone had a good laugh?
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Genocet_10-325 posted...

catboy0_0 posted...

stop taking genocet seriously

Of course, anyone who isn't a radical right winger is dismissed as a troll around here.

Wut

2 different users gave a reasonable and detailed response to you and you ignored them to complain that you are dismissed...

Okay, you're right that a pay gap doesn't exist in every industry. In some fields, women might even make more than men. But in MOST fields, such as the tech industry and science, they indisputably make less.
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Looks like Gloria Estefan was just singing out her sexual assault, who knew?

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Genocet_10-325 posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Genocet_10-325 posted...

catboy0_0 posted...

stop taking genocet seriously

Of course, anyone who isn't a radical right winger is dismissed as a troll around here.

Wut

2 different users gave a reasonable and detailed response to you and you ignored them to complain that you are dismissed...

Okay, you're right that a pay gap doesn't exist in every industry. In some fields, women might even make more than men. But in MOST fields, such as the tech industry and science, they indisputably make less.

Yes but not "Because they are women"

That's the myth.

Experience and skill explains the gap, not genitals. Most people bringing it up claim otherwise, which is the myth.
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The Trent posted...

oh oh oh remember when the duke lacross team got accused of gangraping that chick and everyone was like "well, they ARE athletes and as we all know BOYS WILL BE BOYS" and everyone had a good laugh?

Where they the ones who turned out to be innocent or was that someone else?

I get them confused.
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yeah that one turned out to be a false accusation and it really fucked some of the players over iirc
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

COVxy posted...

Was the shirt intentionally harmful? Probably not. Does it reinforce a cultural idea that is harmful? Probably so.

The idea that teen boys aren't in control of their behavior, especially with regards to sex, is extremely prevalent, and things like "boys will be boys" are not really helping.

"I'm not a far left extremist, i swear!!!!111" - COVxy literally yesterday

How is anything I said extreme in the least?

Are we gonna pretend we haven't heard the same "I don't want you hanging out with that boy. I know what teenage boys are like, I used to be one!" spiel in TV a million times?

It's pretty clear, from anyone's perspective, that we view teenage boys as less responsible due to "hormones". But it's not like this is real. In reality, if we had boys actually integrate with girls, rather than segregate at a young age until puberty when they start to want sex, they may actually see women in a more healthy light. But as a culture we isolate boys from girls until puberty and then dismiss any issues with various "truisms", like boys will be boys.

None of this is extreme. You simply think so because anything that sounds remotely like feminism to you is "extreme".
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Omega Hunter posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

yep. but third wave feminism is all about man hating. they want a completely gynocentric society.

Look around you, there already is a completely gynocentric society. It's culturally acceptable to hate men. The laws show a clear preference for women, in criminal court women serve 60% less time for the same crimes. A man has absolutely no reproductive rights, the state sees a man as nothing but a paycheck to a child, the woman can abort his kid, take his kid away, basically do whatever she wants. Marriage is a completely 1 sided joke and its no wonder less and less men are opting to sign away their freedom and the birth rate is in the dumpster as a result.

It's been shown girls are graded higher in school, women have HR at their beck and call in the workplace. Everyone gets to vote but only men are legally required to defend the country and register for a draft.

Gynocentrism is the rule today, the feminists have won. All men can do is resist at this point.

You're not wrong, but I think it's starting to change. More people, including women, are becoming aware of the double standards and hypocrisy in modern feminism.

I'd definitely agree with you on marriage, though. It's a very risky proposition for men these days, especially high-earners.
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COVxy posted...

How is anything I said extreme in the least?

"Boys will be boys on a t-shirt is culturally harmful!" is extreme

Sounds like something a radical Muslim would say if they daughter came home wearing it one day.
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The Trent posted...

oh oh oh remember when the duke lacross team got accused of gangraping that chick and everyone was like "well, they ARE athletes and as we all know BOYS WILL BE BOYS" and everyone had a good laugh?

I know youre joking but that was the actual response from some people.
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COVxy posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

COVxy posted...

Was the shirt intentionally harmful? Probably not. Does it reinforce a cultural idea that is harmful? Probably so.

The idea that teen boys aren't in control of their behavior, especially with regards to sex, is extremely prevalent, and things like "boys will be boys" are not really helping.

"I'm not a far left extremist, i swear!!!!111" - COVxy literally yesterday

How is anything I said extreme in the least?

Are we gonna pretend we haven't heard the same "I don't want you hanging out with that boy. I know what teenage boys are like, I used to be one!" spiel in TV a million times?

It's pretty clear, from anyone's perspective, that we view teenage boys as less responsible due to "hormones". But it's not like this is real. In reality, if we had boys actually integrate with girls, rather than segregate at a young age until puberty when they start to want sex, they may actually see women in a more healthy light. But as a culture we isolate boys from girls and then dismiss any issues with various "truisms", like boys will be boys.

None of this is extreme. You simply think so because anything that sounds remotely like feminism to you is "extreme".

lmao

So when television presents a caricature of women you get offended and massively butthurt and froth at the mouth, but when television presents caricatures of men you consider it holy scripture?

We do not isolate boys from girls, except in specific limited circumstances like boys camp where the idea is to get boys to bond with other boys and with older mentors who can teach them things relevant to being male adolescents / young men.

What you said was textbook extremist feminism, dude. Re-read your first post, it's off the rails. We view teenage boys as "less responsible" because we conflate loud talking, energetic play, and curiosity with misbehavior. This is because we live in a society where education is overwhelmingly gynocentric.
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Australia is officially a joke country.

https://imgur.com/a/1xHrMqh
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

So when television presents a caricature of women you get offended and massively butthurt and froth at the mouth, but when television presents caricatures of men you consider it holy scripture?

Neither of those things are true, nor can they be taken from my post if you had spent a lick of time reading it with unbiased eyes.

FLUFFYGERM posted...

We do not isolate boys from girls, except in specific limited circumstances like boys camp where the idea is to get boys to bond with other boys and with older mentors who can teach them things relevant to being male adolescents / young men.

We teach them from a young age that sex segregated social groups are the norm and low and behold they form sex segregated social groups.

Most social activities from a young age is sex segregated, and then we're surprised that when given any opportunity (like school), that they self organize into sex segregated groups? And then when they are encouraged to integrate, we're surprised that teenage boys manipulate and abuse women for the purposes of getting sex?

None of this is revolutionary or extreme in any way lol.
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COVxy posted...

We teach them from a young age that sex segregated social groups are the norm and low and behold they form sex segregated social groups.

Most social activities from a young age is sex segregated, and then we're surprised that when given any opportunity (like school), that they self organize into sex segregated groups?

What the fuck are you talking about dude? Unless you're living in Saudi Arabia or something I don't see how you can say this is true. With the exception of locker rooms in gym class, I can't see how any aspect of public education is segregated based on sex.

And there's absolutely nothing wrong with boys wanting to hang out with other boys and girls wanting to hang out with other girls, btw.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

I can't see how any aspect of public education is segregated based on sex.

Again, neither is this true nor could it be taken from my post.
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VideoboysaysCube posted...

Australia is officially a joke country.

https://imgur.com/a/1xHrMqh

Meh that's not as unreasonable as you make it seem

I mean statistics for this are hard to verify but it tends in the US it's about 1 in 5 women suffer domestic violence in their life vs men's 1 in 72. At least approximately.

And a higher than proportionally relevant figure of those men and women are from gay couples.

So men are far more likely to be on the verge of commiting violence against women than recieving it.

Not downplaying violence against men, I'm just saying "HEy they are concerned about violent men! Not violence against men!" is kind of implying they are being unreasonable when they are not.

Might be smarter to have a Unisex line for being abused but that's just political correctness
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COVxy posted...

And then when they are encouraged to integrate, we're surprised that teenage boys manipulate and abuse women for the purposes of getting sex?

lmao what kind of bullshit leap in logic is this? First of all, you're begging the question on the idea that there even is actual segregation by sex. Secondly, you're assuming that that is why boys "manipulate and abuse" women when they try to get laid, instead of just realizing that teenagers are horny and will have sex with each other. Third, you're completely ignoring that girls participate in the same manipulation and abuse because they too want to get laid and they want to compete with the other girls.

The way you frame your narrative is so dishonest and repulsive. Literally placing all of the blame on boys, and blatantly arguing that teenage boys are not capable of being in control, that they are abusive and manipulative, etc. Literally man-hate rhetoric yet you're going to insist that you're not an extremist.

lmao
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Anyway I violated my rule of not taking COVxy seriously. The dude is seriously unhinged and weasels around the actual topics on hand. His gimmick is to obfuscate the shit out of any topic or point whenever it serves the far left. Got plenty of evidence of that.
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#notallboys
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Im fine with that. The phrase has too much weight behind it these days. The only people who use it are Brock Turners parents and baby boomers.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

First of all, you're begging the question on the idea that there even is actual segregation by sex.

I mean, if you've ever had any experience with children's social events, you'd know that there's a pretty long history of most extra-school activities being sex segregated.

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Secondly, you're assuming that that is why boys "manipulate and abuse" women when they try to get laid, instead of just realizing that teenagers are horny and will have sex with each other.

I think it's reasonable to believe that if you've never interacted with the other sex in any real social manner, told repeatedly that they are very different, and then when you suddenly want to interact with them (for personal reasons), it's almost inevitable for there to be dehumanization and manipulation. Like isolation and personal motive is the way these things always happen, between in groups and out groups.

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Third, you're completely ignoring that girls participate in the same manipulation and abuse because they too want to get laid and they want to compete with the other girls.

Perhaps, but the way society deals with such things is completely different. We do not ever relinquish personal responsibility to teenage girls due to "hormones". Especially not in the large pervasive manner we do teenage boys. We warn girls to not find themselves alone with a boy because we know what that boy wants. We don't give boys the opportunity to see women in a healthy light until far too late.
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I mean, when was the first time you were friends with a girl? Like really friends, with no expectation or want of sex?

It wasn't until college where I forged that kind of relationship with women, if I'm being completely honest. And I'd bet a lot of other's would have a similar experience to report.
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Literally kindergarten. Did you grow up in fucking Iran or something?
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i had friends in high school that i wasn't trying to fuck
also in middle school now that you've made me think about it
like, what
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COVxy posted...

I mean, when was the first time you were friends with a girl? Like really friends, with no expectation or want of sex?

It wasn't until college where I forged that kind of relationship with women, if I'm being completely honest. And I'd bet a lot of other's would have a similar experience to report.

Youd be correct, but theres still going to be the one contrarian who claims his best friends were all girls his age and that hes also straight.
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The Trent posted...

i had friends in high school that i wasn't trying to fuck
also in middle school now that you've made me think about it
like, what

Oh, I had girl friends, that I would hang out with once in a blue moon. But not like the same as my guy friends. Not even close.
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COVxy posted...

I mean, when was the first time you were friends with a girl? Like really friends, with no expectation or want of sex?

It wasn't until college where I forged that kind of relationship with women.

what the fuck
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I'm getting sick of reading shit like this. Holy fuck this world is pathetic
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to be clear, i also had friends in high school that i was trying to fuck
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Boys need to hang out with other boys, and girls need to hang out with other girls. It's necessary for their mental health, because there are things only other boys/girls understand. That's not saying we should segregate them, just that we shouldn't consider it a problem when they spend time hanging out with their own sex.

And again, you're assuming all kinds of bull shit and relying heavily on your own anecdote of what happened. For someone who elsewhere pretends to be a calculated and thorough PhD student researcher, this is quite a display of maximum reach.
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COVxy posted...

The Trent posted...

i had friends in high school that i wasn't trying to fuck
also in middle school now that you've made me think about it
like, what

Oh, I had girl friends, that I would hang out with once in a blue moon. But not like the same as my guy friends. Not even close.

and you're saying this is society's fault, not nature's
this is what my takeaway is to be here?
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WizardPowers posted...

COVxy posted...

I mean, when was the first time you were friends with a girl? Like really friends, with no expectation or want of sex?

It wasn't until college where I forged that kind of relationship with women.

what the fuck

yeah it's pretty fucking creepy. idk why he insists on using his experience in fucking Iran or Saudi Arabia as evidence for anything though.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

WizardPowers posted...

COVxy posted...

I mean, when was the first time you were friends with a girl? Like really friends, with no expectation or want of sex?

It wasn't until college where I forged that kind of relationship with women.

what the fuck

yeah it's pretty fucking creepy. idk why he insists on using his experience in fucking Iran or Saudi Arabia as evidence for anything though.

It's pretty fucking normal if you were actually honest with yourself lol.

But you're not gonna be, because pretending otherwise is a much better "argument".

FLUFFYGERM posted...

It's necessary for their mental health, because there are things only other boys/girls understand.

But this is really the only evidence necessary for your case lol.
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COVxy posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

WizardPowers posted...

COVxy posted...

I mean, when was the first time you were friends with a girl? Like really friends, with no expectation or want of sex?

It wasn't until college where I forged that kind of relationship with women.

what the fuck

yeah it's pretty fucking creepy. idk why he insists on using his experience in fucking Iran or Saudi Arabia as evidence for anything though.

It's pretty fucking normal if you were actually honest with yourself lol.

But you're not gonna be, because pretending otherwise is a much better "argument".

FLUFFYGERM posted...

It's necessary for their mental health, because there are things only other boys/girls understand.

But this is really the only evidence necessary for your case lol.

Nailed it.
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COVxy posted...

It's pretty f***ing normal if you were actually honest with yourself lol.

"Everyone had the same experience as I did in Saudi Arabia, it's pretty fucking normal, you're just not being honest with yourself!!11111"

Idk dude, I had plenty of friends that were girls. In fact most of my friends from church that I grew up with were girls and I never thought about boning them or manipulating them into having sex.
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COVxy posted...

But this is really the only evidence necessary for your case lol.

lmao what?
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The Trent posted...

COVxy posted...

The Trent posted...

i had friends in high school that i wasn't trying to fuck
also in middle school now that you've made me think about it
like, what

Oh, I had girl friends, that I would hang out with once in a blue moon. But not like the same as my guy friends. Not even close.

and you're saying this is society's fault, not nature's
this is what my takeaway is to be here?

eh?
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Idiots, so cowardly and hypersensitive
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boy and girls make friends differently and generally prefer to be around people similar to themselves.

and extra-activities at school are segregated(if they are at all) for the studentss benefits. Most girls would run off the field crying if they were forced to play all sports with hyper-competitive boys. Try working at a day camp and getting like 7-8 year old boys and girls to play a competitive game together peacefully.

Young boys and girls will naturally segregate themselves. Society isn't making them like that

FLUFFYGERM posted...

COVxy posted...

But this is really the only evidence necessary for your case lol.

lmao what?

The differences between men and women, psychologically, are so small that they are near the boundary of undetectable scientifically, which means that for your day-to-day, they are effectively the same. The fact that you see them as so different that men and women need to socialize separately for "mental health reasons" suggests that you haven't actually held a healthy friendship with a woman in your life lol.
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What an utter horse shit of a strawman, dude. Just another example of how rabid you are under the hood.
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