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ChainedRedone 06/29/18 11:54:49 AM #1:	Firearms? Gun nut: "you don't know the differences in the sears between automatic and semiautomatic??? Don't even fucking TALK to me BRO" This only happens in gun debates and they have a fascination with touting their gun knowledge as if people give a shit. Seriously, imagine pro-choicers bash pro-lifers because they don't know every nuance of abortions. "You don't even know what medications are commonly used in abortions?? You can't tell me the exact procedure of dialation and evacuation? Don't even fucking TALK to me BRO" "You can't pick out the fully automatic sear of an M16? Dont even fucking TALK to me BRO. How can you say machine guns should stay banned if you can't even do that BRO?" --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:904186234] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote>Firearms? Gun nut: "you don't know the differences in the sears between automatic and semiautomatic??? Don't even fucking TALK to me BRO" This only happens in gun debates and they have a fascination with touting their gun knowledge as if people give a shit. Seriously, imagine pro-choicers bash pro-lifers because they don't know every nuance of abortions. "You don't even know what medications are commonly used in abortions?? You can't tell me the exact procedure of dialation and evacuation? Don't even fucking TALK to me BRO" "You can't pick out the fully automatic sear of an M16? Dont even fucking TALK to me BRO. How can you say machine guns should stay banned if you can't even do that BRO?"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tennisdude818 06/29/18 11:57:43 AM #3:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHQjthkprPk" data-time=" --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell <cite>tennisdude818 posted [p:904186398] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHQjthkprPk" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 06/29/18 12:00:02 PM #4:	Asherlee10 posted... While you are showing a caricature of a person, there are merits to be knowledgeable about firearms and discussing policy changes. Knowing the intricacies of firearms will make a difference in deciding what policies and laws should change. With that in mind, there are some aspects of regulation and gun control that do not require firearm knowledge to talk about, but most do. Rarely. Give examples. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:904186512] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>While you are showing a caricature of a person, there are merits to be knowledgeable about firearms and discussing policy changes. Knowing the intricacies of firearms will make a difference in deciding what policies and laws should change. With that in mind, there are some aspects of regulation and gun control that do not require firearm knowledge to talk about, but most do.</quote> Rarely. Give examples.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChainedRedone 06/29/18 12:02:09 PM #7:	Asherlee10 posted... ChainedRedone posted... Asherlee10 posted... While you are showing a caricature of a person, there are merits to be knowledgeable about firearms and discussing policy changes. Knowing the intricacies of firearms will make a difference in deciding what policies and laws should change. With that in mind, there are some aspects of regulation and gun control that do not require firearm knowledge to talk about, but most do. Rarely. Give examples. Rarely what? Give examples of what? Rarely are the details important. Give examples of contemporary gun control discussions that would require such knowledge. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:904186623] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>While you are showing a caricature of a person, there are merits to be knowledgeable about firearms and discussing policy changes. Knowing the intricacies of firearms will make a difference in deciding what policies and laws should change. With that in mind, there are some aspects of regulation and gun control that do not require firearm knowledge to talk about, but most do.</quote> Rarely. Give examples.</quote> Rarely what? Give examples of what?</quote> Rarely are the details important. Give examples of contemporary gun control discussions that would require such knowledge.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 06/29/18 12:05:01 PM #8:	ChainedRedone posted... Asherlee10 posted... ChainedRedone posted... Asherlee10 posted... While you are showing a caricature of a person, there are merits to be knowledgeable about firearms and discussing policy changes. Knowing the intricacies of firearms will make a difference in deciding what policies and laws should change. With that in mind, there are some aspects of regulation and gun control that do not require firearm knowledge to talk about, but most do. Rarely. Give examples. Rarely what? Give examples of what? Rarely are the details important. Give examples of contemporary gun control discussions that would require such knowledge. Assault weapons don't exist, for one. It's a made-up term to scare people into giving up their Second Amendment rights. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:904186773] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>While you are showing a caricature of a person, there are merits to be knowledgeable about firearms and discussing policy changes. Knowing the intricacies of firearms will make a difference in deciding what policies and laws should change. With that in mind, there are some aspects of regulation and gun control that do not require firearm knowledge to talk about, but most do.</quote> Rarely. Give examples.</quote> Rarely what? Give examples of what?</quote> Rarely are the details important. Give examples of contemporary gun control discussions that would require such knowledge.</quote> Assault weapons don't exist, for one. It's a made-up term to scare people into giving up their Second Amendment rights.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlephZero 06/29/18 12:05:35 PM #9:	https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WhNkIsP59pM# https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BRQqieimwLQ# https://dpo.st/2yXeDPq really activates my almonds --- "There is value in segregation." - qwertyman2002 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 <cite>AlephZero posted [p:904186803] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WhNkIsP59pM# https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BRQqieimwLQ# https://dpo.st/2yXeDPq really activates my almonds</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlephZero 06/29/18 12:06:56 PM #11:	https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iJmFEv6BHM0# --- "There is value in segregation." - qwertyman2002 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 <cite>AlephZero posted [p:904186877] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iJmFEv6BHM0#</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0TiamaT0 06/29/18 12:07:32 PM #12:	Its hard to take them seriously when they purposely misuse the term assault rifle. Semi-automatic rifle just doesnt have the same ring of danger to it... They know the difference, but they use the term anyway for shock value. So fuck them. --- https://youtu.be/JDHvYdi6Bu4 <cite>0TiamaT0 posted [p:904186912] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote>Its hard to take them seriously when they purposely misuse the term assault rifle. Semi-automatic rifle just doesnt have the same ring of danger to it... They know the difference, but they use the term anyway for shock value. So fuck them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 06/29/18 12:08:12 PM #13:	darkjedilink posted... ChainedRedone posted... Asherlee10 posted... ChainedRedone posted... Asherlee10 posted... While you are showing a caricature of a person, there are merits to be knowledgeable about firearms and discussing policy changes. Knowing the intricacies of firearms will make a difference in deciding what policies and laws should change. With that in mind, there are some aspects of regulation and gun control that do not require firearm knowledge to talk about, but most do. Rarely. Give examples. Rarely what? Give examples of what? Rarely are the details important. Give examples of contemporary gun control discussions that would require such knowledge. Assault weapons don't exist, for one. It's a made-up term to scare people into giving up their Second Amendment rights. I suppose assault weapons are the only ones that can be argued. But I see people act this way over things such as general gun (semiauto) bans and gun control in general. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:904186946] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>While you are showing a caricature of a person, there are merits to be knowledgeable about firearms and discussing policy changes. Knowing the intricacies of firearms will make a difference in deciding what policies and laws should change. With that in mind, there are some aspects of regulation and gun control that do not require firearm knowledge to talk about, but most do.</quote> Rarely. Give examples.</quote> Rarely what? Give examples of what?</quote> Rarely are the details important. Give examples of contemporary gun control discussions that would require such knowledge.</quote> Assault weapons don't exist, for one. It's a made-up term to scare people into giving up their Second Amendment rights.</quote> I suppose assault weapons are the only ones that can be argued. But I see people act this way over things such as general gun (semiauto) bans and gun control in general.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 06/29/18 12:08:32 PM #14:	ChainedRedone posted... Rarely are the details important. Give examples of contemporary gun control discussions that would require such knowledge. How about we turn this around? Do you really want a Non-Scientist / Anti-Environmentalist to run the EPA and dictate legislation that isn't fact based? Do you really want a Anti-Abortion / Male Politician who doesn't understand the first thing about reproduction to dictate legislation about Abortion? Do you really want senile old politicians who can barely use email much less modern technology to write legislation about the internet? --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:904186968] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>Rarely are the details important. Give examples of contemporary gun control discussions that would require such knowledge.</quote>How about we turn this around? Do you really want a Non-Scientist / Anti-Environmentalist to run the EPA and dictate legislation that isn't fact based? Do you really want a Anti-Abortion / Male Politician who doesn't understand the first thing about reproduction to dictate legislation about Abortion? Do you really want senile old politicians who can barely use email much less modern technology to write legislation about the internet?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 06/29/18 12:09:26 PM #15:	the one that gets me is people who get uptight over the use of magazine instead of clip or vice versa like, it's almost always easy to know what they really mean when they're using the wrong word, but quite a few people will use it to disregard the entire post --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:904187028] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote>the one that gets me is people who get uptight over the use of magazine instead of clip or vice versa like, it's almost always easy to know what they really mean when they're using the wrong word, but quite a few people will use it to disregard the entire post</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 06/29/18 12:10:38 PM #16:	There's a big difference between nuance and calling for bans because it looks scary. If you want to argue against specific types of guns at least educate yourself with basic knowledge. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 3 (2) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:904187104] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote>There's a big difference between nuance and calling for bans because it looks scary. If you want to argue against specific types of guns at least educate yourself with basic knowledge.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 06/29/18 12:10:46 PM #17:	ChainedRedone posted... I suppose assault weapons are the only ones that can be argued. But I see people act this way over things such as general gun (semiauto) bans and gun control in general. Details are EVERYTHING when it comes to writing legislation about a specific nuanced topic that requires a great deal of understanding. Otherwise you're going to write legislation that creates unnecessary issues for many law abiding citizens that don't need to be there. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:904187111] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>I suppose assault weapons are the only ones that can be argued. But I see people act this way over things such as general gun (semiauto) bans and gun control in general.</quote>Details are EVERYTHING when it comes to writing legislation about a specific nuanced topic that requires a great deal of understanding. Otherwise you're going to write legislation that creates unnecessary issues for many law abiding citizens that don't need to be there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 06/29/18 12:10:55 PM #18:	AlephZero posted... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iJmFEv6BHM0# lmao --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904187121] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlephZero posted...</cite> <quote>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iJmFEv6BHM0#</quote> lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 06/29/18 12:11:31 PM #19:	ChainedRedone posted... darkjedilink posted... ChainedRedone posted... Asherlee10 posted... ChainedRedone posted... Asherlee10 posted... While you are showing a caricature of a person, there are merits to be knowledgeable about firearms and discussing policy changes. Knowing the intricacies of firearms will make a difference in deciding what policies and laws should change. With that in mind, there are some aspects of regulation and gun control that do not require firearm knowledge to talk about, but most do. Rarely. Give examples. Rarely what? Give examples of what? Rarely are the details important. Give examples of contemporary gun control discussions that would require such knowledge. Assault weapons don't exist, for one. It's a made-up term to scare people into giving up their Second Amendment rights. I suppose assault weapons are the only ones that can be argued. But I see people act this way over things such as general gun (semiauto) bans and gun control in general. Because gun bans and semi-automatic bans are unconstitutional, so anyone suggesting them is wasting their time. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:904187156] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>While you are showing a caricature of a person, there are merits to be knowledgeable about firearms and discussing policy changes. Knowing the intricacies of firearms will make a difference in deciding what policies and laws should change. With that in mind, there are some aspects of regulation and gun control that do not require firearm knowledge to talk about, but most do.</quote> Rarely. Give examples.</quote> Rarely what? Give examples of what?</quote> Rarely are the details important. Give examples of contemporary gun control discussions that would require such knowledge.</quote> Assault weapons don't exist, for one. It's a made-up term to scare people into giving up their Second Amendment rights.</quote> I suppose assault weapons are the only ones that can be argued. But I see people act this way over things such as general gun (semiauto) bans and gun control in general.</quote> Because gun bans and semi-automatic bans are unconstitutional, so anyone suggesting them is wasting their time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 06/29/18 12:13:43 PM #20:	KamenRiderBlade posted... ChainedRedone posted... I suppose assault weapons are the only ones that can be argued. But I see people act this way over things such as general gun (semiauto) bans and gun control in general. Details are EVERYTHING when it comes to writing legislation about a specific nuanced topic that requires a great deal of understanding. Otherwise you're going to write legislation that creates unnecessary issues for many law abiding citizens that don't need to be there. In some cases, sure. I wish I had some screenshots and examples of people doing it here in CE to illustrate what I'm talking about. But I don't. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:904187278] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>I suppose assault weapons are the only ones that can be argued. But I see people act this way over things such as general gun (semiauto) bans and gun control in general.</quote>Details are EVERYTHING when it comes to writing legislation about a specific nuanced topic that requires a great deal of understanding. Otherwise you're going to write legislation that creates unnecessary issues for many law abiding citizens that don't need to be there.</quote> In some cases, sure. I wish I had some screenshots and examples of people doing it here in CE to illustrate what I'm talking about. But I don't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crazyman93 06/29/18 12:14:08 PM #21:	ChainedRedone posted... Asherlee10 posted... While you are showing a caricature of a person, there are merits to be knowledgeable about firearms and discussing policy changes. Knowing the intricacies of firearms will make a difference in deciding what policies and laws should change. With that in mind, there are some aspects of regulation and gun control that do not require firearm knowledge to talk about, but most do. Rarely. Give examples. Oregon's courts threw out a propossed firearm ban because of bad terminology recently. Namely, they decreed "assault weapon" and "high capacity magazine" are NOT clear terms. Which anyone with even a little firearms knowledge knew already. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks <cite>Crazyman93 posted [p:904187307] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>While you are showing a caricature of a person, there are merits to be knowledgeable about firearms and discussing policy changes. Knowing the intricacies of firearms will make a difference in deciding what policies and laws should change. With that in mind, there are some aspects of regulation and gun control that do not require firearm knowledge to talk about, but most do.</quote> Rarely. Give examples.</quote> Oregon's courts threw out a propossed firearm ban because of bad terminology recently. Namely, they decreed "assault weapon" and "high capacity magazine" are NOT clear terms. Which anyone with even a little firearms knowledge knew already.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlephZero 06/29/18 12:14:46 PM #22:	ChainedRedone posted... darkjedilink posted... ChainedRedone posted... Asherlee10 posted... ChainedRedone posted... Asherlee10 posted... While you are showing a caricature of a person, there are merits to be knowledgeable about firearms and discussing policy changes. Knowing the intricacies of firearms will make a difference in deciding what policies and laws should change. With that in mind, there are some aspects of regulation and gun control that do not require firearm knowledge to talk about, but most do. Rarely. Give examples. Rarely what? Give examples of what? Rarely are the details important. Give examples of contemporary gun control discussions that would require such knowledge. Assault weapons don't exist, for one. It's a made-up term to scare people into giving up their Second Amendment rights. I suppose assault weapons are the only ones that can be argued. But I see people act this way over things such as general gun (semiauto) bans and gun control in general. almost like there was a supreme court case that ruled blanket bans on semiauto firearms are unconstitutional, something one might know if they were somewhat knowledgeable on firearms and the laws surrounding them --- "There is value in segregation." - qwertyman2002 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 <cite>AlephZero posted [p:904187333] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>While you are showing a caricature of a person, there are merits to be knowledgeable about firearms and discussing policy changes. Knowing the intricacies of firearms will make a difference in deciding what policies and laws should change. With that in mind, there are some aspects of regulation and gun control that do not require firearm knowledge to talk about, but most do.</quote> Rarely. Give examples.</quote> Rarely what? Give examples of what?</quote> Rarely are the details important. Give examples of contemporary gun control discussions that would require such knowledge.</quote> Assault weapons don't exist, for one. It's a made-up term to scare people into giving up their Second Amendment rights.</quote> I suppose assault weapons are the only ones that can be argued. But I see people act this way over things such as general gun (semiauto) bans and gun control in general.</quote> almost like there was a supreme court case that ruled blanket bans on semiauto firearms are unconstitutional, something one might know if they were somewhat knowledgeable on firearms and the laws surrounding them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abyssea 06/29/18 12:15:02 PM #23:	darkjedilink posted... Because gun bans and semi-automatic bans are unconstitutional, so anyone suggesting them is wasting their time. the constitution doesn't mention semi-automatic weaponry at all. --- https://imgur.com/F2h5rw2 <cite>Abyssea posted [p:904187347] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Because gun bans and semi-automatic bans are unconstitutional, so anyone suggesting them is wasting their time.</quote> the constitution doesn't mention semi-automatic weaponry at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 06/29/18 12:15:17 PM #24:	Crazyman93 posted... ChainedRedone posted... Asherlee10 posted... While you are showing a caricature of a person, there are merits to be knowledgeable about firearms and discussing policy changes. Knowing the intricacies of firearms will make a difference in deciding what policies and laws should change. With that in mind, there are some aspects of regulation and gun control that do not require firearm knowledge to talk about, but most do. Rarely. Give examples. Oregon's courts threw out a propossed firearm ban because of bad terminology recently. Namely, they decreed "assault weapon" and "high capacity magazine" are NOT clear terms. Which anyone with even a little firearms knowledge knew already. They're not intended to be clear terms. They're intended to be blanket terms because these people want to ban all guns. They don't actually want "common-sense laws." They want a full-out ban, so they try to group as many things as possible under weird and nonsensical terminology like "assault weapon" --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904187362] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>Crazyman93 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>While you are showing a caricature of a person, there are merits to be knowledgeable about firearms and discussing policy changes. Knowing the intricacies of firearms will make a difference in deciding what policies and laws should change. With that in mind, there are some aspects of regulation and gun control that do not require firearm knowledge to talk about, but most do.</quote> Rarely. Give examples.</quote> Oregon's courts threw out a propossed firearm ban because of bad terminology recently. Namely, they decreed "assault weapon" and "high capacity magazine" are NOT clear terms. Which anyone with even a little firearms knowledge knew already.</quote> They're not intended to be clear terms. They're intended to be blanket terms because these people want to ban all guns. They don't actually want "common-sense laws." They want a full-out ban, so they try to group as many things as possible under weird and nonsensical terminology like "assault weapon"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romulox28 06/29/18 12:15:35 PM #25:	i think it is helpful for people making policies about guns to at least have a tiny bit of knowledge regarding them --- https://imgur.com/LhwwG <cite>Romulox28 posted [p:904187377] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote>i think it is helpful for people making policies about guns to at least have a tiny bit of knowledge regarding them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crazyman93 06/29/18 12:17:19 PM #26:	Abyssea posted... darkjedilink posted... Because gun bans and semi-automatic bans are unconstitutional, so anyone suggesting them is wasting their time. the constitution doesn't mention semi-automatic weaponry at all. No, it mentions arms, as in "armaments." A semi-automatic rifle is an armament. Therefore it is constitutionally protected. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks <cite>Crazyman93 posted [p:904187463] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Because gun bans and semi-automatic bans are unconstitutional, so anyone suggesting them is wasting their time.</quote> the constitution doesn't mention semi-automatic weaponry at all.</quote> No, it mentions arms, as in "armaments." A semi-automatic rifle is an armament. Therefore it is constitutionally protected.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 06/29/18 12:17:27 PM #27:	ChainedRedone posted... In some cases, sure. I wish I had some screenshots and examples of people doing it here in CE to illustrate what I'm talking about. But I don't. Just like Aviation, Computer Hardware, Nuclear Reactors, Engines, FireArms are a VERY technical field that is very easy to use, but hard to understand the detailed workings about and how it affects the end user. People making BS legislation like the "Assault Weapons" is a made up political term to demonize FireArms, 2A supporters, and anybody trying to support their natural 2A writes written in the Constitution. It's literally a political tool used to beat against your civil rights and used to try to strip it away. You wonder why people care about the details, it's because details make ALL the difference. Especially when it comes to a very core subject that has do with a Mechanical Construct like a FireArm and that happens to be a Civil Right, the 2nd Civil Right that is listed in the US Constitution as the 2nd Amendment. That's why people get all up in arms about it. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:904187473] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>In some cases, sure. I wish I had some screenshots and examples of people doing it here in CE to illustrate what I'm talking about. But I don't.</quote>Just like Aviation, Computer Hardware, Nuclear Reactors, Engines, FireArms are a VERY technical field that is very easy to use, but hard to understand the detailed workings about and how it affects the end user. People making BS legislation like the "Assault Weapons" is a made up political term to demonize FireArms, 2A supporters, and anybody trying to support their natural 2A writes written in the Constitution. It's literally a political tool used to beat against your civil rights and used to try to strip it away. You wonder why people care about the details, it's because details make ALL the difference. Especially when it comes to a very core subject that has do with a Mechanical Construct like a FireArm and that happens to be a Civil Right, the 2nd Civil Right that is listed in the US Constitution as the 2nd Amendment. That's why people get all up in arms about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paragon21XX 06/29/18 12:18:15 PM #29:	Because a person thinking innocuous features like barrel shrouds, telescoping stocks, and pistol grips should be banned tells me that you don't know the first thing about firearms and are nothing more than a useful fool to hoplophobes that actually want to ban all guns. --- Hmm... <cite>Paragon21XX posted [p:904187514] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote>Because a person thinking innocuous features like barrel shrouds, telescoping stocks, and pistol grips should be banned tells me that you don't know the first thing about firearms and are nothing more than a useful fool to hoplophobes that actually want to ban all guns.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 06/29/18 12:18:41 PM #30:	Abyssea posted... darkjedilink posted... Because gun bans and semi-automatic bans are unconstitutional, so anyone suggesting them is wasting their time. the constitution doesn't mention semi-automatic weaponry at all. The constitution states the "Right to bear ARMS". The framers knew what they were talking about because technology will and always has evolved with the times. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:904187529] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Because gun bans and semi-automatic bans are unconstitutional, so anyone suggesting them is wasting their time.</quote> the constitution doesn't mention semi-automatic weaponry at all.</quote>The constitution states the "Right to bear ARMS". The framers knew what they were talking about because technology will and always has evolved with the times.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abyssea 06/29/18 12:18:54 PM #31:	Crazyman93 posted... Abyssea posted... darkjedilink posted... Because gun bans and semi-automatic bans are unconstitutional, so anyone suggesting them is wasting their time. the constitution doesn't mention semi-automatic weaponry at all. No, it mentions arms, as in "armaments." A semi-automatic rifle is an armament. Therefore it is constitutionally protected. so are nuclear warheads. why can't we buy those? --- https://imgur.com/F2h5rw2 <cite>Abyssea posted [p:904187539] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>Crazyman93 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Because gun bans and semi-automatic bans are unconstitutional, so anyone suggesting them is wasting their time.</quote> the constitution doesn't mention semi-automatic weaponry at all.</quote> No, it mentions arms, as in "armaments." A semi-automatic rifle is an armament. Therefore it is constitutionally protected.</quote> so are nuclear warheads. why can't we buy those?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scorpion41 06/29/18 12:19:06 PM #32:	So if you have gun knowledge youre automatically a gun nut? Lol guess Im also a history nut and a health nut because I have knowledge in those areas as well. --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14, Darksiders series(PS3) <cite>scorpion41 posted [p:904187549] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote>So if you have gun knowledge youre automatically a gun nut? Lol guess Im also a history nut and a health nut because I have knowledge in those areas as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SexyPonyMagic69 06/29/18 12:20:25 PM #33:	Because the ignorant have no right to make demands. --- GameFlux: Unofficial GameFAQs board browser <cite>SexyPonyMagic69 posted [p:904187617] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote>Because the ignorant have no right to make demands.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 06/29/18 12:21:32 PM #34:	Asherlee10 posted... Asherlee10 posted... ChainedRedone posted... Asherlee10 posted... ChainedRedone posted... Asherlee10 posted... While you are showing a caricature of a person, there are merits to be knowledgeable about firearms and discussing policy changes. Knowing the intricacies of firearms will make a difference in deciding what policies and laws should change. With that in mind, there are some aspects of regulation and gun control that do not require firearm knowledge to talk about, but most do. Rarely. Give examples. Rarely what? Give examples of what? Rarely are the details important. Give examples of contemporary gun control discussions that would require such knowledge. No, the intricacies are more often than not important in regulation and gun control. Examples: Magazine limits, stocks, arm guards, triggers, any limitations on modifications like surpressors, bullet caliber size for conceal carry, types of firearms, etc. the list goes on. Does this not resonate with you that understanding these things are of high value when determining policies? I'm not talking about policy makers. You don't need to know the difference between clips and magazines to support magazine capacity limits, for example. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:904187694] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>While you are showing a caricature of a person, there are merits to be knowledgeable about firearms and discussing policy changes. Knowing the intricacies of firearms will make a difference in deciding what policies and laws should change. With that in mind, there are some aspects of regulation and gun control that do not require firearm knowledge to talk about, but most do.</quote> Rarely. Give examples.</quote> Rarely what? Give examples of what?</quote> Rarely are the details important. Give examples of contemporary gun control discussions that would require such knowledge.</quote> No, the intricacies are more often than not important in regulation and gun control. Examples: Magazine limits, stocks, arm guards, triggers, any limitations on modifications like surpressors, bullet caliber size for conceal carry, types of firearms, etc. the list goes on.</quote> Does this not resonate with you that understanding these things are of high value when determining policies?</quote> I'm not talking about policy makers. You don't need to know the difference between clips and magazines to support magazine capacity limits, for example.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 06/29/18 12:22:12 PM #35:	Abyssea posted... so are nuclear warheads. why can't we buy those? Because the government limited those to only Nation States having access. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:904187725] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote>so are nuclear warheads. why can't we buy those?</quote>Because the government limited those to only Nation States having access.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abyssea 06/29/18 12:22:54 PM #36:	KamenRiderBlade posted... Abyssea posted... so are nuclear warheads. why can't we buy those? Because the government limited those to only Nation States having access. isn't that a violation of the second amendment? --- https://imgur.com/F2h5rw2 <cite>Abyssea posted [p:904187764] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote>so are nuclear warheads. why can't we buy those?</quote>Because the government limited those to only Nation States having access.</quote> isn't that a violation of the second amendment?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 06/29/18 12:24:08 PM #37:	1: People against guns typically know nothing about them aside from what the media tells them. 2: The gun nuts knowledge of guns is the only knowledge they actually have. 3: Both sides refuse to find a middle ground. I say this as a southern born liberal raised baptist who has the benefit of having been on both sides. --- We're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon, but there ain't no whales, so we tell tall tales, and sing our whaling tune. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:904187834] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote>1: People against guns typically know nothing about them aside from what the media tells them. 2: The gun nuts knowledge of guns is the only knowledge they actually have. 3: Both sides refuse to find a middle ground. I say this as a southern born liberal raised baptist who has the benefit of having been on both sides.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peter_Giffyndor 06/29/18 12:24:21 PM #38:	Because regardless of the subject matter or debate at hand, only a fool goes to battle without doing their research. At it's simplest, how in the fuck are you going to be against something and demand it be banned when you are literally ignorant and do not understand wtf you're talking about? Who will win a debate 9 times out of 10? The person who is more knowledgeable about BOTH sides of the issue. <cite>Peter_Giffyndor posted [p:904187847] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote>Because regardless of the subject matter or debate at hand, only a fool goes to battle without doing their research. At it's simplest, how in the fuck are you going to be against something and demand it be banned when you are literally ignorant and do not understand wtf you're talking about? Who will win a debate 9 times out of 10? The person who is more knowledgeable about BOTH sides of the issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 06/29/18 12:24:30 PM #39:	ChainedRedone posted... This only happens in gun debates and they have a fascination with touting their gun knowledge as if people give a shit. Seriously, imagine pro-choicers bash pro-lifers because they don't know every nuance of abortions. "You don't even know what medications are commonly used in abortions?? You can't tell me the exact procedure of dialation and evacuation? Don't even fucking TALK to me BRO" Anybody attempt to tackle this argument yet or did it just get glossed over in typical CE fashion? --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:904187856] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>This only happens in gun debates and they have a fascination with touting their gun knowledge as if people give a shit. Seriously, imagine pro-choicers bash pro-lifers because they don't know every nuance of abortions. "You don't even know what medications are commonly used in abortions?? You can't tell me the exact procedure of dialation and evacuation? Don't even fucking TALK to me BRO"</quote> Anybody attempt to tackle this argument yet or did it just get glossed over in typical CE fashion?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crazyman93 06/29/18 12:26:13 PM #41:	Abyssea posted... KamenRiderBlade posted... Abyssea posted... so are nuclear warheads. why can't we buy those? Because the government limited those to only Nation States having access. isn't that a violation of the second amendment? All considered, no, not really. A nuclear bomb is a lot different than a firearm. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks <cite>Crazyman93 posted [p:904187957] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote>so are nuclear warheads. why can't we buy those?</quote>Because the government limited those to only Nation States having access.</quote> isn't that a violation of the second amendment?</quote> All considered, no, not really. A nuclear bomb is a lot different than a firearm.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlephZero 06/29/18 12:26:33 PM #42:	A_Good_Boy posted... ChainedRedone posted... This only happens in gun debates and they have a fascination with touting their gun knowledge as if people give a shit. Seriously, imagine pro-choicers bash pro-lifers because they don't know every nuance of abortions. "You don't even know what medications are commonly used in abortions?? You can't tell me the exact procedure of dialation and evacuation? Don't even fucking TALK to me BRO" Anybody attempt to tackle this argument yet or did it just get glossed over in typical CE fashion? im against abortions because doctors use shopvacs to suck out the fetus if anyone tries to correct me they are abortionsplaining and trying to bog me down in irrelevant details to stifle debate --- "There is value in segregation." - qwertyman2002 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 <cite>AlephZero posted [p:904187978] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>This only happens in gun debates and they have a fascination with touting their gun knowledge as if people give a shit. Seriously, imagine pro-choicers bash pro-lifers because they don't know every nuance of abortions. "You don't even know what medications are commonly used in abortions?? You can't tell me the exact procedure of dialation and evacuation? Don't even fucking TALK to me BRO"</quote> Anybody attempt to tackle this argument yet or did it just get glossed over in typical CE fashion?</quote> im against abortions because doctors use shopvacs to suck out the fetus if anyone tries to correct me they are abortionsplaining and trying to bog me down in irrelevant details to stifle debate</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SapphireOfChaos 06/29/18 12:27:12 PM #43:	Abyssea posted... KamenRiderBlade posted... Abyssea posted... so are nuclear warheads. why can't we buy those? Because the government limited those to only Nation States having access. isn't that a violation of the second amendment? You can't hug your children with nuclear arms! --- 3DS: 1590-4884-9269 \| Switch: SW-3337-1639-7884 Discord link: https://discord.gg/hDQ6rWb \| ''I reject your wit and substitute my own.'' - guwa <cite>SapphireOfChaos posted [p:904188012] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote>so are nuclear warheads. why can't we buy those?</quote>Because the government limited those to only Nation States having access.</quote> isn't that a violation of the second amendment?</quote> You can't hug your children with nuclear arms!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 06/29/18 12:28:03 PM #44:	ChainedRedone posted... I'm not talking about policy makers. You don't need to know the difference between clips and magazines to support magazine capacity limits. And if you understand how a Fire fight works along with how marksmanship, and mechanical operations of the firearm, then you would understand why Magazine Capacity limits are really meaningless and just another political tool designed to attack the freedoms of 2A supporters. What you need is People Control. People who have Convicted Felonious records and Convicted Records of Violence (Misdemanors, Infractions, etc) are the ones you want to keep FireArms away from. Also a person must not have any court determined & Medically certified mental issues on their records. You also usually need to be a Citizen as well to be able to attain a FireArm. Those 3 factors are already in the Federal Law books. Those are more than enough to keep society safe. The moment you stop enforcing the laws or updating records is when bad things really happen. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:904188064] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not talking about policy makers. You don't need to know the difference between clips and magazines to support magazine capacity limits.</quote>And if you understand how a Fire fight works along with how marksmanship, and mechanical operations of the firearm, then you would understand why Magazine Capacity limits are really meaningless and just another political tool designed to attack the freedoms of 2A supporters. What you need is People Control. People who have Convicted Felonious records and Convicted Records of Violence (Misdemanors, Infractions, etc) are the ones you want to keep FireArms away from. Also a person must not have any court determined & Medically certified mental issues on their records. You also usually need to be a Citizen as well to be able to attain a FireArm. Those 3 factors are already in the Federal Law books. Those are more than enough to keep society safe. The moment you stop enforcing the laws or updating records is when bad things really happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HiddenLurker 06/29/18 12:28:12 PM #45:	ChainedRedone posted... Firearms? Gun nut: "you don't know the differences in the sears between automatic and semiautomatic??? Don't even fucking TALK to me BRO" This only happens in gun debates and they have a fascination with touting their gun knowledge as if people give a shit. Seriously, imagine pro-choicers bash pro-lifers because they don't know every nuance of abortions. "You don't even know what medications are commonly used in abortions?? You can't tell me the exact procedure of dialation and evacuation? Don't even fucking TALK to me BRO" "You can't pick out the fully automatic sear of an M16? Dont even fucking TALK to me BRO. How can you say machine guns should stay banned if you can't even do that BRO?" By that logic should people that know nothing about abortions really be allowed to craft legislation on how and where, if at all, abortions can take place? Or those that biologically cannot have them? --- [Insert tired meme here] <cite>HiddenLurker posted [p:904188072] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>Firearms? Gun nut: "you don't know the differences in the sears between automatic and semiautomatic??? Don't even fucking TALK to me BRO" This only happens in gun debates and they have a fascination with touting their gun knowledge as if people give a shit. Seriously, imagine pro-choicers bash pro-lifers because they don't know every nuance of abortions. "You don't even know what medications are commonly used in abortions?? You can't tell me the exact procedure of dialation and evacuation? Don't even fucking TALK to me BRO" "You can't pick out the fully automatic sear of an M16? Dont even fucking TALK to me BRO. How can you say machine guns should stay banned if you can't even do that BRO?"</quote> By that logic should people that know nothing about abortions really be allowed to craft legislation on how and where, if at all, abortions can take place? Or those that biologically cannot have them?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 06/29/18 12:28:35 PM #46:	AlephZero posted... A_Good_Boy posted... ChainedRedone posted... This only happens in gun debates and they have a fascination with touting their gun knowledge as if people give a shit. Seriously, imagine pro-choicers bash pro-lifers because they don't know every nuance of abortions. "You don't even know what medications are commonly used in abortions?? You can't tell me the exact procedure of dialation and evacuation? Don't even fucking TALK to me BRO" Anybody attempt to tackle this argument yet or did it just get glossed over in typical CE fashion? im against abortions because doctors use shopvacs to suck out the fetus if anyone tries to correct me they are abortionsplaining and trying to bog me down in irrelevant details to stifle debate I have very strong opinions regarding transgenders just pretending so they can use whatever bathroom they want. Don't even talk to me bro if you think otherwise. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:904188084] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlephZero posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote> This only happens in gun debates and they have a fascination with touting their gun knowledge as if people give a shit. Seriously, imagine pro-choicers bash pro-lifers because they don't know every nuance of abortions. "You don't even know what medications are commonly used in abortions?? You can't tell me the exact procedure of dialation and evacuation? Don't even fucking TALK to me BRO" </quote> Anybody attempt to tackle this argument yet or did it just get glossed over in typical CE fashion?</quote> im against abortions because doctors use shopvacs to suck out the fetus if anyone tries to correct me they are abortionsplaining and trying to bog me down in irrelevant details to stifle debate</quote> I have very strong opinions regarding transgenders just pretending so they can use whatever bathroom they want. Don't even talk to me bro if you think otherwise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 06/29/18 12:28:44 PM #47:	Because they say shit like this that's flat out wrong and dangerous https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIuk3G9Xixc" data-time=" --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:904188092] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote>Because they say shit like this that's flat out wrong and dangerous https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIuk3G9Xixc" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 06/29/18 12:29:13 PM #48:	Abyssea posted... isn't that a violation of the second amendment? No, because how do you defend yourself against 1 person with a nuke? Nukes are the types of arms used in Nation to Nation conflict. FireArms are tools usually used against individuals. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:904188120] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote>isn't that a violation of the second amendment?</quote>No, because how do you defend yourself against 1 person with a nuke? Nukes are the types of arms used in Nation to Nation conflict. FireArms are tools usually used against individuals.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirkDiggles 06/29/18 12:29:27 PM #49:	ChainedRedone posted... I'm not talking about policy makers. You don't need to know the difference between clips and magazines to support magazine capacity limits. You do when you don't know the difference between automatic and semi-automatic. --- https://imgtc.com/i/5CTKeaL.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/G9w39yE.gif <cite>DirkDiggles posted [p:904188129] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not talking about policy makers. You don't need to know the difference between clips and magazines to support magazine capacity limits.</quote> You do when you don't know the difference between automatic and semi-automatic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abyssea 06/29/18 12:29:40 PM #50:	Crazyman93 posted... Abyssea posted... KamenRiderBlade posted... Abyssea posted... so are nuclear warheads. why can't we buy those? Because the government limited those to only Nation States having access. isn't that a violation of the second amendment? All considered, no, not really. A nuclear bomb is a lot different than a firearm. A semi-automatic weapon is a lot different from a regular firearm too. So why do we make distinctions for some things but not others? :u --- https://imgur.com/F2h5rw2 <cite>Abyssea posted [p:904188144] in Why do gun... [t:76761687]...</cite> <quote><cite>Crazyman93 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote>so are nuclear warheads. why can't we buy those?</quote>Because the government limited those to only Nation States having access.</quote> isn't that a violation of the second amendment?</quote> All considered, no, not really. A nuclear bomb is a lot different than a firearm.</quote> A semi-automatic weapon is a lot different from a regular firearm too. So why do we make distinctions for some things but not others? :u</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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