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darkjedilink
06/27/18 1:49:43 PM
#151:


cjsdowg posted...
DoubleDare posted...
Well, what did the gay couple want on their cake? I imagine a religous bakery wouldn't have a doll set of 2 girls.

It sounds reasonable a religious bakery wouldn't want to decorate a cake for a gay wedding, and it sounds like they were trying to still be accomodating.

If the couple really liked that bakery they could have gotten blank wedding cake there and had it decorated elsewhere.

The do divorce cakes.. what does the Bible say about divorce?

You have proof that the baker in question makes divorce cakes?
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TrevorBlack79
06/27/18 1:52:54 PM
#152:


darkjedilink posted...
That's why he offered the gay couple any other cake - if it was about them being gay, as you posit, he wouldn't have done that.


If it wasn't about them being gay, as you posit, he would have made the cake they ordered.
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darkjedilink
06/27/18 1:54:09 PM
#153:


TrevorBlack79 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
That's why he offered the gay couple any other cake - if it was about them being gay, as you posit, he wouldn't have done that.

If it wasn't about them being gay, as you posit, he would have made the cake they ordered.

No, he wouldn't have made the cake if they were straight, because it still would be a cake for a gay wedding.
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TrevorBlack79
06/27/18 2:06:13 PM
#154:


darkjedilink posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
That's why he offered the gay couple any other cake - if it was about them being gay, as you posit, he wouldn't have done that.

If it wasn't about them being gay, as you posit, he would have made the cake they ordered.

No, he wouldn't have made the cake if they were straight, because it still would be a cake for a gay wedding.


The wedding couple in question was gay, so he refused to bake the cake. He indisputably refused a service to the wedding couple because they were gay. You can mince words all you like, but these are the facts.
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Uncle Choad
06/27/18 2:14:17 PM
#155:


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darkjedilink
06/27/18 2:15:20 PM
#156:


TrevorBlack79 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
That's why he offered the gay couple any other cake - if it was about them being gay, as you posit, he wouldn't have done that.

If it wasn't about them being gay, as you posit, he would have made the cake they ordered.

No, he wouldn't have made the cake if they were straight, because it still would be a cake for a gay wedding.


The wedding couple in question was gay, so he refused to bake the cake. He indisputably refused a service to the wedding couple because they were gay. You can mince words all you like, but these are the facts.

No, YOU are mincing words. He did not deny them service, only one type of cake.
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hockeybub89
06/27/18 2:17:39 PM
#157:


Patty_Fleur posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Got to love that certain conservatives care more about press secretaries than they do LGBT people or black people. And that they are okay with a President actively taking part in targeting a small business over disagreeing with his administration. "Refusing to serve gay people is freedom of speech and you shouldn't get fired for saying racist things, but refusing one of the President's people is unacceptable!"


LGBT people and black people have the same rights as everyone else now. They can shut the fuck up.

I'm saying this as a black guy.

So do press secretaries. What the hell does that have to do with my post?
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CyricZ
06/27/18 2:23:14 PM
#158:


darkjedilink posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
That's why he offered the gay couple any other cake - if it was about them being gay, as you posit, he wouldn't have done that.

If it wasn't about them being gay, as you posit, he would have made the cake they ordered.

No, he wouldn't have made the cake if they were straight, because it still would be a cake for a gay wedding.


The wedding couple in question was gay, so he refused to bake the cake. He indisputably refused a service to the wedding couple because they were gay. You can mince words all you like, but these are the facts.

No, YOU are mincing words. He did not deny them service, only one type of cake.

I'm intrigued to learn what the hell you're trying to prove here. I've already posted the court record, it's a matter of legal fact that the baker refused to make a cake for a same-sex marriage.
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TrevorBlack79
06/27/18 2:23:31 PM
#159:


darkjedilink posted...
No, YOU are mincing words. He did not deny them service, only one type of cake.


One type of cake which he would have provided to a straight couple. This is the denial of a service. Work on your reading comprehension, check the post you quoted again, and make note of the fact that I specifically said "a service." However you cut it, he refused this specific service to this specific couple exclusively because they were gay.
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thronedfire2
06/27/18 2:23:34 PM
#160:


Maybe theyre going on vacation for the 4th?
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P4wn4g3
06/27/18 2:26:31 PM
#161:


thronedfire2 posted...
Maybe theyre going on vacation for the 4th?

May as well with all this free advertising.
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GreatEvilEmpire
06/27/18 2:28:15 PM
#162:


Actions have consequences. Just like how that Starbucks manager called the cops on 2 black men.

You have the freedom to do certain things, but that doesn't mean you're free from consequences.
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Mister_Spyker
06/27/18 2:32:46 PM
#163:


HypnoCoosh posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
AlI had they had to do was let the woman pay and eat her food.

Now they are suffering. Yeah, Fuck em. The Dems don't even care about kids. They are just using them as pawns to spread in their hate.

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HypnoCoosh
06/27/18 2:38:33 PM
#164:


cjsdowg posted...
what does the Bible say about divorce?


Why then," they asked, "did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?" Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery."
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HypnoCoosh
06/27/18 2:40:42 PM
#165:


GreatEvilEmpire posted...
Actions have consequences. Just like how that Starbucks manager called the cops on 2 men refusing to purchase anything, loitering, using the facilities and refusing to leave.


FTFY
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DoubleDare
06/27/18 2:53:35 PM
#166:


I am pretty sure I read around the time that the bakery refused to do divorce cakes too.
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darkjedilink
06/27/18 3:03:47 PM
#167:


TrevorBlack79 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
No, YOU are mincing words. He did not deny them service, only one type of cake.


One type of cake which he would have provided to a straight couple. This is the denial of a service. Work on your reading comprehension, check the post you quoted again, and make note of the fact that I specifically said "a service." However you cut it, he refused this specific service to this specific couple exclusively because they were gay.

He would have provided a cake for a gay wedding to a straight couple?

Are you sure about that? Got a source?
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TrevorBlack79
06/27/18 3:18:36 PM
#168:


darkjedilink posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
No, YOU are mincing words. He did not deny them service, only one type of cake.


One type of cake which he would have provided to a straight couple. This is the denial of a service. Work on your reading comprehension, check the post you quoted again, and make note of the fact that I specifically said "a service." However you cut it, he refused this specific service to this specific couple exclusively because they were gay.

He would have provided a cake for a gay wedding to a straight couple?

Are you sure about that? Got a source?


I'm not going to entertain you playing the fool. Respond to the post seriously. We all know you can't.

You should also respond to post 158.
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Kineth
06/27/18 3:20:41 PM
#169:


It's no surprise that djl gaslights people. He has a pretty abusive personality, which might be reason why he's had issues with his love life.
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darkjedilink
06/27/18 3:23:31 PM
#170:


CyricZ posted...
darkjedilink posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
That's why he offered the gay couple any other cake - if it was about them being gay, as you posit, he wouldn't have done that.

If it wasn't about them being gay, as you posit, he would have made the cake they ordered.

No, he wouldn't have made the cake if they were straight, because it still would be a cake for a gay wedding.


The wedding couple in question was gay, so he refused to bake the cake. He indisputably refused a service to the wedding couple because they were gay. You can mince words all you like, but these are the facts.

No, YOU are mincing words. He did not deny them service, only one type of cake.

I'm intrigued to learn what the hell you're trying to prove here. I've already posted the court record, it's a matter of legal fact that the baker refused to make a cake for a same-sex marriage.

That's what I'm saying. The argument from the left is they refused the cake on the sole idea that the purchaser was gay.

That is a lie.
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A_Good_Boy
06/27/18 3:24:40 PM
#171:


Kineth posted...
It's no surprise that djl gaslights people. He has a pretty abusive personality, which might be reason why he's had issues with his love life.

No, that was cause of Obama.
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darkjedilink
06/27/18 3:25:04 PM
#172:


TrevorBlack79 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
No, YOU are mincing words. He did not deny them service, only one type of cake.


One type of cake which he would have provided to a straight couple. This is the denial of a service. Work on your reading comprehension, check the post you quoted again, and make note of the fact that I specifically said "a service." However you cut it, he refused this specific service to this specific couple exclusively because they were gay.

He would have provided a cake for a gay wedding to a straight couple?

Are you sure about that? Got a source?


I'm not going to entertain you playing the fool. Respond to the post seriously. We all know you can't.

You should also respond to post 158.

I did respond to the post seriously. You assert that he would have made the cake if the purchaser was straight, meaning your argument is that he'd ave made a cake for a gay wedding if the buyer was straight.

That is a lie.
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Smashingpmkns
06/27/18 3:27:41 PM
#173:


This administration really brings out the fucking stupidity of everyone.
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CyricZ
06/27/18 3:30:06 PM
#174:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Kineth posted...
It's no surprise that djl gaslights people. He has a pretty abusive personality, which might be reason why he's had issues with his love life.

No, that was cause of Obama.

Oh that'll never get old.
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Funbazooka
06/27/18 3:50:23 PM
#175:


VectorChaos posted...
Everyone flailing in impotent rage against Trump and these protesters right now needs to remember who wholeheartedly embraced, pushed for, and normalized "freedom of speech not freedom from consequences! Summon the angry mob against them!"

It's fucking hilarious that some of you really thought only your side was allowed to wield it like a cudgel.

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hockeybub89
06/27/18 3:52:43 PM
#176:


Funbazooka posted...
VectorChaos posted...
Everyone flailing in impotent rage against Trump and these protesters right now needs to remember who wholeheartedly embraced, pushed for, and normalized "freedom of speech not freedom from consequences! Summon the angry mob against them!"

It's fucking hilarious that some of you really thought only your side was allowed to wield it like a cudgel.

Yeah, but those same conservatives hated it then. What changed? Why do White House press secretaries get more defense that sexual and racial minorities?
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Funbazooka
06/27/18 4:00:55 PM
#177:


I don't remember conservatives or Trump supporters ever saying that all protest is bad or that the act in itself is bad.
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ColdOne666
06/27/18 4:03:25 PM
#178:


Fair Next.
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TrevorBlack79
06/27/18 4:04:51 PM
#179:


darkjedilink posted...
You assert that he would have made the cake if the purchaser was straight,


No, I never said this. I said he would have made the cake if the wedding couple was straight.

Again, however you hash it out, the fact is that he refused this specific service to this specific couple exclusively because they were gay.
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darkjedilink
06/27/18 4:10:51 PM
#180:


TrevorBlack79 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
You assert that he would have made the cake if the purchaser was straight,


No, I never said this. I said he would have made the cake if the wedding couple was straight.

Again, however you hash it out, the fact is that he refused this specific service to this specific couple exclusively because they were gay.

But not because the PURCHASER was gay, which means he wasn't discriminating his purchaser.
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Funbazooka
06/27/18 4:14:41 PM
#181:


TrevorBlack79 posted...
Again, however you hash it out, the fact is that he refused this specific service to this specific couple exclusively because they were gay.

Because of his freedom of religion, which is a protected class too. Of course there are limits to religious freedom, just as there are limits to how much one thinks they're entitled to because of their sexual orientation.
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TrevorBlack79
06/27/18 4:30:06 PM
#182:


darkjedilink posted...
But not because the PURCHASER was gay, which means he wasn't discriminating his purchaser.


This has literally nothing to do with anything being discussed.

Funbazooka posted...
Because of his freedom of religion, which is a protected class too. Of course there are limits to religious freedom


Indeed. Limits like "businesses can't discriminate against protected classes."
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