Current Events > So, Japan surrendered after the two atom bombs. Stalin kept fighting them anyway

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Stalin was such a piece of shit

The US dropped the two atomic bombs. Japan gave its unconditional surrender (albeit with the promise that Hirohito keep his position).

The pacific war was over.

It was finished.

But no... Stalin's army in China just completely ignored the surrender kept advancing and attacking Japanese positions to get more territory for themselves.

There would not have been a Korean war if it wasn't for that. There would not have been a North and South Korea if Stalin didn't pull that fucking jerk move.

What a fucking ass. Continuing to fight after one side already surrendered.

Stalin triggers me so fucking much.
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if stalin didn't give manchuria to mao the communists might not have won in china either
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Stalin was quite possibly the worst human in all of hsitory.
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>US drops plural nuclear explosives

>Russia is a piece of shit

Okay.

bob742omb posted...

if stalin didn't give manchuria to mao the communists might not have won in china either

That too. Stalin died over half a century ago and many of the crap he pulled is still causing so much shit to this day.
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stalin's ideology is politically correct though

sounds like a drastic oversimplification of history but ok
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Kyurem-Black posted...

stalin's ideology is politically correct though

not really. if you are referring to communism, he wasn't a communist. he was pretending to be a communist. no nation has ever actually been communist. they just use the word but they are something else. actual real communism would be nice. but it's never worked in reality. it requires the leaders to be kind and not greedy and selfless. and that just never happens

Japan didn't surrender to Russia though
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no nation has ever actually been communist

Shut up Zitken
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phew...for a second I thought you meant me. but you actually said Zitken

Zikten posted...

Kyurem-Black posted...

stalin's ideology is politically correct though

not really. if you are referring to communism, he wasn't a communist. he was pretending to be a communist. no nation has ever actually been communist. they just use the word but they are something else. actual real communism would be nice. but it's never worked in reality. it requires the leaders to be kind and not greedy and selfless. and that just never happens

Nope, commies and facist are the worst kind of people. Both deserve nothing but the worst.
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KillerKhan420 posted...

Nope, commies and facist are the worst kind of people. Both deserve nothing but the worst.

no, I am saying commies are not actually commies. actual real communism doesn't exist. it's a fantasy. if it existed it would be the perfect government. but it's impossible due to human nature. people who call themselves communists are lying.

daddy stalin did nothing wrong, those 20 million people just didn't work hard enough

Kyurem-Black posted...

daddy stalin did nothing wrong, those 20 million people just didn't work hard enough

What are you doing
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Zikten posted...

Kyurem-Black posted...

stalin's ideology is politically correct though

not really. if you are referring to communism, he wasn't a communist. he was pretending to be a communist. no nation has ever actually been communist. they just use the word but they are something else. actual real communism would be nice. but it's never worked in reality. it requires the leaders to be kind and not greedy and selfless. and that just never happens

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if you want to see what I mean by real communism, watch Star Trek. the earth government in Star Trek is perfect communism. that's why it's a fantasy. you have to go to star trek to find it

Zikten posted...

if you want to see what I mean by real communism, watch Star Trek. the earth government in Star Trek is perfect communism. that's why it's a fantasy. you have to go to star trek to find it

You don't have to go to science fiction. The jewish Kibbutz are good real-world example of communism, at least as close to the ideal as we can get:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibbutz
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NibeIungsnarf posted...

>US drops plural nuclear explosives

>Russia is a piece of shit

Okay.

How to tell someone knows jack shit about history and just wants to complain about America:

>They complain about America nuking Japan, which isn't even the most eggregious thing they did to Japan that same year
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bob742omb posted...

if stalin didn't give manchuria to mao the communists might not have won in china either

It was basically just a series of flukes that led the communists to win the civil war even with that
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Japan didn't surrender exactly after two bombs.

There's period of firestorm bombing, some silence, a failed coup, then the emperor was scared that the Japanese were all going to suicide, so he draft up that ggwp.
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Pogo_Marimo posted...

NibeIungsnarf posted...

>US drops plural nuclear explosives

>Russia is a piece of shit

Okay.

How to tell someone knows jack shit about history and just wants to complain about America:

>They complain about America nuking Japan, which isn't even the most eggregious thing they did to Japan that same year

They also like to ignore the atrocities Japan committed which IIRC Japan still denies to this day.

At the end of the day, WW2 was an awful thing and no side was truly "good" or "right". It's hopefully an event that we never even come close to repeating.
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Even when the Emperor was going to surrender some ultranationalist Tojo supporters tried rushing the Imperial Palace
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I don't know about the USSR, but the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution in China were very much real communism
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Pogo_Marimo posted...

Stalin was quite possibly the worst human in all of hsitory.

Mao is worse
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Doom_Art posted...

Even when the Emperor was going to surrender some ultranationalist Tojo supporters tried rushing the Imperial Palace

and they have tried again. a famous japanese author died in a failed coup. he wrote a bunch of famous japanese novels about culture and history. and then he tried to overthrow the government to reinstate wartime government. failed, and then commited ritual suicide with a katana

this was like in the 60's or 70's

MC_BatCommander posted...

At the end of the day, WW2 was an awful thing and no side was truly "good" or "right".

That's definitely false
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July 30 1945: The USS Indianapolis was torpedoed and sunk by a Japanese submarine. Captain Charles B. McVay III managed to survive in shark-infested waters for three days before the survivors were discovered, and later became the only captain in the history of the U.S. Navy to face court-martial for his ship being sunk by enemy action. He committed suicide on November 6, 1968, and was cleared of wrongdoing by the Secretary of the Navy in 2001.

On 29 July, Lt. Cmdr. Hashimoto ordered the submarine to make for an area where he believed shipping lanes between Guam, Leyte, Peleliu and Okinawa intersected.[33] At 23:35 that evening, Hashimoto spotted the heavy cruiser Indianapolis.
He later wrote of the incident:
We had the moon behind us and the enemy ship was now clearly visible. She had two turrets aft and a large tower mast. I took her to be an Idaho-class battleship. The crew were all agog, awaiting the order to fire the torpedoes. All was dead quiet ... the favorable moment for firing was approaching. ... At last in a loud voice, I gave the order 'Stand byfire!' The torpedo-release switch pressed at intervals of two seconds and then the report came from the torpedo room, "All tubes fired and correct." Six torpedoes were speeding, fanwise, toward the enemy ship. ... Bringing the boat on to a course parallel with the enemy, we waited anxiously. Every minute seemed an age. Then on the starboard side of the enemy by the forward turret, and then the after turret there rose columns of water to be followed immediately by flashes of bright red flame. Then another column of water arose from alongside the Number 2 turret and seemed to envelop the whole ship"A hit, a hit!" I shouted as each torpedo struck home, and the crew danced for joy.[39]

Regarding McVay's conviction, Hashimoto wrote:

Our peoples have forgiven each other for that terrible war and its consequences. Perhaps it is time your peoples forgave Captain McVay for the humiliation of his unjust conviction
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Wow, Stalin was a scumbag, definitely not something a lot of people realize, thanks for the heads up

<_<
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Doom_Art posted...

Even when the Emperor was going to surrender some ultranationalist Tojo supporters tried rushing the Imperial Palace

Why wouldn't you stand up for the tojo? There will be no white flag above my door, I'm in love and always will be!

UnholyMudcrab posted...

MC_BatCommander posted...

At the end of the day, WW2 was an awful thing and no side was truly "good" or "right".

That's definitely false

Ah, I think he meant every side had blood on their hands, which is true. Plenty of war crimes to go around the axis and the goody allies right? From the concentration camps the Nazis had, to the executions of surrendering soldiers which every major power had done, and of course the Russians in the Germany frauleins near the end, it was all some bullshit.
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I know the Scripture says "Judge not lest ye be judged" but I'm just gonna come right out and say this Stalin guy sounds like a real jerk.
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KillerKhan420 posted...

Ah, I think he meant every side had blood on their hands, which is true. Plenty of war crimes to go around the axis and the goody allies right? From the concentration camps the Nazis had, to the executions of surrendering soldiers which every major power had done, and of course the Russians in the Germany frauleins near the end, it was all some bullshit.

Yes that is what I was referring to, specifically in response to someone trying to make Japan seem so innocent because they got nuked.
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Pogo_Marimo posted...

NibeIungsnarf posted...

>US drops plural nuclear explosives

>Russia is a piece of shit

Okay.

How to tell someone knows jack shit about history and just wants to complain about America:

>They complain about America nuking Japan, which isn't even the most eggregious thing they did to Japan that same year

I'm not saying the nukes were wrong. They were probably more assholish than what Russia did, though.