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pegusus123456
06/23/18 7:35:30 AM
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I just assumed that the kid was a model anyway.
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Webmaster4531
06/23/18 7:45:23 AM
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masterpug53 posted...
Uh huh. Next you're going to tell me that the room they posed that photo in wasn't really that red.

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AcFan87
06/23/18 7:47:41 AM
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AlephZero posted...
fake news is ok if it pushes a narrative i agree with

Shouldn't this be the motto/mission statement of the left?
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Coffeebeanz
06/23/18 7:49:07 AM
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I keep hoping that journalism standards have hit bedrock, but I guess there's plenty more to go.
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Webmaster4531
06/23/18 7:49:32 AM
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AcFan87 posted...
AlephZero posted...
fake news is ok if it pushes a narrative i agree with

Shouldn't this be the motto/mission statement of the left?

They're making the frogs gay!
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RoboLaserGandhi
06/23/18 7:49:54 AM
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It's amazing the lengths people will go to write fake news about a president with a goldmine of real stuff to criticize.
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AcFan87
06/23/18 7:53:05 AM
#57:


Webmaster4531 posted...
AcFan87 posted...
AlephZero posted...
fake news is ok if it pushes a narrative i agree with

Shouldn't this be the motto/mission statement of the left?

They're making the frogs gay!

How the fuck do you make a frog gay?
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Webmaster4531
06/23/18 7:54:03 AM
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AcFan87 posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
AcFan87 posted...
AlephZero posted...
fake news is ok if it pushes a narrative i agree with

Shouldn't this be the motto/mission statement of the left?

They're making the frogs gay!

How the fuck do you make a frog gay?

They're putting chemicals in the water.
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
06/23/18 9:29:25 AM
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Yeah, I never thought she was seperated. Because I read the orignal story on Twitter where it was very clear that the picture was taken while her mother was being searched and said they weren't seperated afterward.
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iPhone_7
06/23/18 9:40:36 AM
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So in this case, the child was not separated from her mother. Theyre just both being held indefinitely at an internment ca- I mean temporary make-shift detention facility.

Sanchez and her daughter had left Puerto Cortes, a major Honduran port north of the capital city, Tegucigalpa, without telling Valera or the couple's three other children, he said.

He said he imagined that Sanchez left with the little girl for the United States, where she has family, in search of better economic opportunities.

"If they are deported, that is OK as long as they do not leave the child without her mother," Valera said. "I am waiting to see what happens with them."

Theres more to this story that is sorely missing. Why only bring one child? Are the other 3 grown up already? Are they even hers or from the fathers past relationship (if he had one)?

Is this a he said/she said case of alleged abuse?
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Y2J0_sHBK_Blue
06/23/18 10:51:01 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
AcFan87 posted...
AlephZero posted...
fake news is ok if it pushes a narrative i agree with

Shouldn't this be the motto/mission statement of the left?


Don't act like this shit doesn't happy across the board. We shouldn't give a shit what side of the fence it falls on, combat it without bias.


One side has a channel with the moniker: the no spin zone
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thronedfire2
06/23/18 10:51:13 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...
I'm confused. Where on the cover does it say this kid was taken from it's parents?


I think it is implied because of the current state of the immigration practices. The child is depicted alone in front of Trump. This is suggesting that her parents are not here and she is "Welcomed" to America alone and crying.

They should have used a photo of an actual child that was separated from their parents. It delivered a larger statement.


If they did that the cages would have messed up the shot though
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Webmaster4531
06/23/18 10:56:36 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Y2J0_sHBK_Blue posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
AcFan87 posted...
AlephZero posted...
fake news is ok if it pushes a narrative i agree with

Shouldn't this be the motto/mission statement of the left?


Don't act like this shit doesn't happy across the board. We shouldn't give a shit what side of the fence it falls on, combat it without bias.


One side has a channel with the moniker: the no spin zone


I don't understand your sentence.

He's trolling.
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Tyranthraxus
06/23/18 11:03:40 AM
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I heard something very disturbing. Apparently the cover is a total Photoshop and Trump never actually looked down at that crying girl while stoically welcoming her to America in Times New Roman.
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Tyranthraxus
06/23/18 11:08:48 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
I heard something very disturbing. Apparently the cover is a total Photoshop and Trump never actually looked down at that crying girl while stoically welcoming her to America in Times New Roman.


This really hasn't been the topic of discussion nor is it relevant. Everyone knows that Trump and the girl are photoshopped in. The issue is that this girl was not, in fact, ever separated from her parents. This devalues the message of the cover photo.

The message of the cover doesn't change just because of that. Had it instead been an original piece of art such as a painting with completely fictitious children the message is still unchanged.
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CyricZ
06/23/18 11:14:44 AM
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But now people have cause to willfully ignore the message. They can change the conversation all they want now because they have the ammunition.

At that point, you're not fighting for the message. You're defending the publication, and that's not gonna be a hill to die on.

I suggest moving on, let the anti-s have this one, because it won't go away. Stay on message, but not through this avenue. There are plenty of others.
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thronedfire2
06/23/18 11:16:18 AM
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The people who use this as an excuse to ignore the covers message were always going to ignore it anyway
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masterpug53
06/23/18 11:21:07 AM
#75:


Asherlee10 posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
I heard something very disturbing. Apparently the cover is a total Photoshop and Trump never actually looked down at that crying girl while stoically welcoming her to America in Times New Roman.


This really hasn't been the topic of discussion nor is it relevant. Everyone knows that Trump and the girl are photoshopped in. The issue is that this girl was not, in fact, ever separated from her parents. This devalues the message of the cover photo.


People can't conveniently take this image half-literally and expect it to be seen as a sincere viewpoint. Either they realize that this is a composite image portraying a message more important than the sum of its parts, or they honestly believe this was a staged photo of Trump making a face at a sobbing toddler in a great big red room, and Trump happened to be nice enough to let Time print it.
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Tyranthraxus
06/23/18 12:36:56 PM
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Polycosm
06/23/18 10:20:37 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
The people who use this as an excuse to ignore the covers message were always going to ignore it anyway.

True enough. For evidence, look no further than the propaganda campaign Fox News is running against Mueller. Mueller has run an air-tight operation and has been completely silent, but that hasn't stopped Trumpists from trying to smear him anyway. Mueller's given them no ammunition, only subpoenas, indictments and other official court filings. It doesn't matter. Trump's base-- the unshakable 30-something percent-- are absolutely immune to fact and reason. Attempting to cater to them is a worthless endeavor.
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Damn_Underscore
06/23/18 10:26:47 PM
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Trying to defend Time Magazine is literally no different from Trump supporters defending Fox News
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darkjedilink
06/25/18 9:30:04 AM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
I heard something very disturbing. Apparently the cover is a total Photoshop and Trump never actually looked down at that crying girl while stoically welcoming her to America in Times New Roman.


This really hasn't been the topic of discussion nor is it relevant. Everyone knows that Trump and the girl are photoshopped in. The issue is that this girl was not, in fact, ever separated from her parents. This devalues the message of the cover photo.

It doesnt. Its not a real shot. What its depicting is really happening.

And has been happening for decades, so why is it only a problem now?
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darkjedilink
06/25/18 9:49:29 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
I heard something very disturbing. Apparently the cover is a total Photoshop and Trump never actually looked down at that crying girl while stoically welcoming her to America in Times New Roman.


This really hasn't been the topic of discussion nor is it relevant. Everyone knows that Trump and the girl are photoshopped in. The issue is that this girl was not, in fact, ever separated from her parents. This devalues the message of the cover photo.

It doesnt. Its not a real shot. What its depicting is really happening.

And has been happening for decades, so why is it only a problem now?

Because investigative research is a lot easier to do in today's world than it was previously.

Is that why there's outrage against Trump caused by pictures of this happening under Obama's tenure? We just didn't have the research ability two years ago?
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darkjedilink
06/25/18 10:01:43 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
I heard something very disturbing. Apparently the cover is a total Photoshop and Trump never actually looked down at that crying girl while stoically welcoming her to America in Times New Roman.


This really hasn't been the topic of discussion nor is it relevant. Everyone knows that Trump and the girl are photoshopped in. The issue is that this girl was not, in fact, ever separated from her parents. This devalues the message of the cover photo.

It doesnt. Its not a real shot. What its depicting is really happening.

And has been happening for decades, so why is it only a problem now?

Because investigative research is a lot easier to do in today's world than it was previously.

Is that why there's outrage against Trump caused by pictures of this happening under Obama's tenure? We just didn't have the research ability two years ago?


I'm not even sure what you are referencing. I'm talking about the little girl in the photo.

Obama's press secretary tweeted a photo of children taken at the border, blaming Trump.

That photo was taken during Obama's administration.

This was happening under Obama's Presidency, but nary a word was said. Now that it's happening under Trump, by the letter of US law, and NOW it's a human rights issue.

It's literally only a problem because Trump.
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darkjedilink
06/25/18 11:16:38 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
So the little girl in the Time cover was from Obama's presidency? I'm not following what you are saying relative to the discussion I was having.

I'm calling you a hypocrite for blaming this on Trump.
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scar the 1
06/25/18 11:19:50 AM
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So did anyone ever explain what part of the cover story was fake?
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scar the 1
06/25/18 12:00:36 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
scar the 1 posted...
So did anyone ever explain what part of the cover story was fake?


The deal is that the little girl was never separated from her family, but is, in fact, an immigrant.

Yeah, and like I noted earlier, when the image first showed up, it was captioned accordingly. The photo was take when the mother was frisked, which was never concealed information. Did the cover story say the girl was separated?
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Wolf_J_Flywheel
06/25/18 12:38:07 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
They could have used an anime girl and gotten the point across. Would that have made it fake news because Trump isn't actually putting 2D anime girls in cages at the border?

The pics of kids in cages are from Obamas reign of terror
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FLUFFYGERM
06/25/18 12:59:20 PM
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scar the 1 posted...
Yeah, and like I noted earlier, when the image first showed up, it was captioned accordingly.


no it was not. this is all post hoc.
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scar the 1
06/25/18 1:31:53 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
scar the 1 posted...
So did anyone ever explain what part of the cover story was fake?


The deal is that the little girl was never separated from her family, but is, in fact, an immigrant.

Yeah, and like I noted earlier, when the image first showed up, it was captioned accordingly. The photo was take when the mother was frisked, which was never concealed information. Did the cover story say the girl was separated?


The cover story relies on obvious implication given the context of when it came out. The context was children being separated from their parents in different detention centers and/or being deported.

All TIME had to do was get a photo of an actual child that was separated and this entire scenario would have never come about. The message is still plain as day and still holds weight, but it is somewhat devalued because of the child they chose to use.

Do you feel like children being separated at the border is less important or less of a story because of this cover?


No, and that is not the point being conveyed.

The point being discussed is the value of the message from the TIME cover and the specific child they used to convey a certain message.

This isn't about the value of the immigration situation, it's about the value of the message in this particular magazine cover.

Is there a written story somewhere that I'm missing, because to me the image implies that Trump is being cruel to children. Is it any better that she was crying because her mother was frisked by agents? Unless of course the image wasn't taken at the border at all. I was under the impression that it was.
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hockeybub89
06/25/18 1:35:15 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
scar the 1 posted...
So did anyone ever explain what part of the cover story was fake?


The deal is that the little girl was never separated from her family, but is, in fact, an immigrant.

Yeah, and like I noted earlier, when the image first showed up, it was captioned accordingly. The photo was take when the mother was frisked, which was never concealed information. Did the cover story say the girl was separated?


The cover story relies on obvious implication given the context of when it came out. The context was children being separated from their parents in different detention centers and/or being deported.

All TIME had to do was get a photo of an actual child that was separated and this entire scenario would have never come about. The message is still plain as day and still holds weight, but it is somewhat devalued because of the child they chose to use.

Do you feel like children being separated at the border is less important or less of a story because of this cover?


No, and that is not the point being conveyed.

The point being discussed is the value of the message from the TIME cover and the specific child they used to convey a certain message.

This isn't about the value of the immigration situation, it's about the value of the message in this particular magazine cover.

And only deliberately obtuse jackasses would willfully miss the point of the message here.
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