Current Events > Delta is banning pit bulls from flying as service dogs

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https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/delta-banning-pit-bulls-flying-162639271.html

Delta Airlines added further restrictions to its updated support animal policy when it announced on Wednesday that "pit bull type dogs" will no longer be accepted as service or emotional support animals to accompany owners on flights. The policy change includes limiting one emotional support animal per customer. The changes go into effect July 10.

The announcement comes on the heels of a number of incidents regarding defecation and urination by animals on Delta planes, and complaints by Delta flight attendants of being bitten by pit bulls. According to Delta, there has been an 84 percent increase in such incidents involving emotional support dogs since June 2016. Last June, a passenger was mauled by another passengers 70-pound pit bull while trapped in a window seat and required 28 stitches across his face.

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fuck you delta. im flying united!

AH SHIT

*is mauled by flight attendants*
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Thats fucking stupid. Pit bulls are as nice as any other dog
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I fucking love pit bulls, they're great dogs. I have zero issues with this just merely from a preventing a panic standpoint.
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the whole service/emotional support animal thing needs some serious regulation tbh
literally anyone can buy stuff from amazon and claim they need their animal with them even if it serves no purpose
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people need to get over their irrational fear of big dogs.

and companies like Delta need to stop giving into wimps.

Delta needs to get their own shit together before banning any animals.

I know the issue of people faking support animals and all but pits can be as sweet as any other dog. They just get a bad wrap.

GregShmedley posted...

AlabamaLove posted...

the whole service/emotional support animal thing needs some serious regulation tbh
literally anyone can buy stuff from amazon and claim they need their animal with them even if it serves no purpose

I agree that it is getting ridiculous but this isn't one of those situations.

I dunno, I feel like it's a decent part of it
A service/support dog that attacks means that that dog isn't actually either of those things and shouldn't have been in the cabin. If there were actual regulations in place then the owner wouldn't have been able to get that dog on the plane in the first place.
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AlabamaLove posted...

the whole service/emotional support animal thing needs some serious regulation tbh
literally anyone can buy stuff from amazon and claim they need their animal with them even if it serves no purpose

No they can't.

Emotional support animals need to be approved by a licensed medical professional. Whoever has one needs to be prepared to show documation explaining that. The doctumentation doesn't need to explain why the animal is needed, but it does need to say that the animal is needed according to the licensed medical professional.

Serivce animals need to be trained to do a task for the owner and the owner must be prepared to tell the business what that task is. Furthermore unless the owner's unable to do so the animal must be on a lease, or similar device.

Also in either case if the animal is causing problems they can be kicked off, although obviously you can't do that on a plane, so they'd be caged.

Blue_Inigo posted...

Thats fucking stupid. Pit bulls are as nice as any other dog

under good owners, they're not dangerous
it's the bad ones i'm worried about.

because i cant predict if the pitbull is neutral/friendly or mean. one would want at the mininum neutral.
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Pit Bulls make for great service dogs. They can guide you places and maul your face off.
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DirkDiggles posted...

Pit Bulls make for great service dogs. They can guide you places and maul your face off.

there's other people who can maul face and his name is... dawkins.
he has threatened more than one occasion to do so in the imgur picture.
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kingdrake2 posted...

Blue_Inigo posted...

Thats fucking stupid. Pit bulls are as nice as any other dog

under good owners, they're not dangerous
it's the bad ones i'm worried about.

because i cant predict if the pitbull is neutral/friendly or mean. one would want at the mininum neutral.

You could say this about any dog
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JE19426 posted...

AlabamaLove posted...

the whole service/emotional support animal thing needs some serious regulation tbh
literally anyone can buy stuff from amazon and claim they need their animal with them even if it serves no purpose

No they can't.

Emotional support animals need to be approved by a licensed medical professional. Whoever has one needs to be prepared to show documation explaining that. The doctumentation doesn't need to explain why the animal is needed, but it does need to say that the animal is needed according to the licensed medical professional.

Serivce animals need to be trained to do a task for the owner and the owner must be prepared to tell the business what that task is. Furthermore unless the owner's unable to do so the animal must be on a lease, or similar device.

Also in either case if the animal is causing problems they can be kicked off, although obviously you can't do that on a plane, so they'd be caged.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_8?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=service+dog+vest&sprefix=service+%2Caps%2C176&crid=HGGKSQNL3A81

literally anyone
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JE19426 posted...

AlabamaLove posted...

the whole service/emotional support animal thing needs some serious regulation tbh
literally anyone can buy stuff from amazon and claim they need their animal with them even if it serves no purpose

No they can't.

Emotional support animals need to be approved by a licensed medical professional. Whoever has one needs to be prepared to show documation explaining that. The doctumentation doesn't need to explain why the animal is needed, but it does need to say that the animal is needed according to the licensed medical professional.

Serivce animals need to be trained to do a task for the owner and the owner must be prepared to tell the business what that task is. Furthermore unless the owner's unable to do so the animal must be on a lease, or similar device.

Also in either case if the animal is causing problems they can be kicked off, although obviously you can't do that on a plane, so they'd be caged.

At my job we were told all we could ask is if the animal is a service animal. That was it. If we asked anything more than that we were told it could lead to us being sued.

Also told us the dog did not need the vest as it means absolutely nothing.
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I didn't think they could ban legitimate service dogs, and the FAA and ADA sites don't seem to allow for it either.
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Fuck Delta
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They can't legally ban service animals, unless they're physically unable to accomodate them.

However, the only requirement for ESAs is that they give reasonable consideration to the request. They aren't outright obliged to accept it. Unfortunately, the number of people abusing ESA provisions will, without a doubt, lead to legitimate ones being refused more and more often.
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AlabamaLove posted...

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_8?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=service+dog+vest&sprefix=service+%2Caps%2C176&crid=HGGKSQNL3A81

literally anyone

Putting any of those on an Animal doesn't make it a service dog, just like be putting on one of those halloween uniforms doesn't make me a police officer.

MacDaMurderer posted...

At my job we were told all we could ask is if the animal is a service animal. That was it. If we asked anything more than that we were told it could lead to us being sued.

If your job is in the US they should replace their HR department as they don't know what they are doing.

Also told us the dog did not need the vest as it means absolutely nothing.

They don't need a vest but they need to be leased, or have something similar, unless the disabled person can't use them.

Blue_Inigo posted...

kingdrake2 posted...

Blue_Inigo posted...

Thats fucking stupid. Pit bulls are as nice as any other dog

under good owners, they're not dangerous
it's the bad ones i'm worried about.

because i cant predict if the pitbull is neutral/friendly or mean. one would want at the mininum neutral.

You could say this about any dog

no shit but most breeds dont have the capability of effortlessly ripping your face off . stop pretending like you dont understand the enormous differences between pits and other dogs
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So long as the"pitbull type dog" is an actual service animal, this could lead to them being fined or sued.

Can't go against that ADA.
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JE19426 posted...

MacDaMurderer posted...
At my job we were told all we could ask is if the animal is a service animal. That was it. If we asked anything more than that we were told it could lead to us being sued.

If your job is in the US they should replace their HR department as they don't know what they are doing.

They can only legally ask if it's a service animal and what service it provides.

LedZeppelin posted...

no shit but most breeds dont have the capability of effortlessly ripping your face off .

Yes they do.

tainted_emerald posted...

So long as the"pitbull type dog" is an actual service animal, this could lead to them being fined or sued.

Can't go against that ADA.

I did some digging and the ADA doesn't apply to airline travel. It is, however, covered by the ACAA. The ACAA is slightly more accommodating to comfort animals and allows airlines to reject dangerous or nuisance animals, but doesn't allow the determination to be made on the basis of just making the crew nervous.
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I've never seen a pit bull being used as a service dog
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Good, vicious beasts shouldn't be service dogs anyway. I wouldn't want to be on a plane if one of those fuckers snapped.

Blue_Inigo posted...

kingdrake2 posted...

Blue_Inigo posted...

Thats fucking stupid. Pit bulls are as nice as any other dog

under good owners, they're not dangerous
it's the bad ones i'm worried about.

because i cant predict if the pitbull is neutral/friendly or mean. one would want at the mininum neutral.

You could say this about any dog

Except pitbulls cause a far disproportionate amount of serious to fatal attacks compared to ownership. 3% of the dog owning population has a pit yet they account for well over 50% of attacks.
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Good. Fuck pitbulls