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HypnoCoosh
06/20/18 9:15:40 AM
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What ya guys think?
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A_Good_Boy
06/20/18 9:16:57 AM
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Who knew that when conservatives have been talking about "immigration reform" that this whole entire time they really meant "baby concentration camps".

Conservatives need to start speaking in whole sentences.
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Veggeta_MAX
06/20/18 9:17:35 AM
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More like no people are allowed into our country anymore.
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I4NRulez
06/20/18 9:19:52 AM
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M_Live posted...
Oh it's very much needed. I'm fine with being stricter on the boarders, but make it easier to apply for a visa/become a citizen, grant amnesty to those who have been in our country for a long period of time & contribute to society, don't yank children away from their damn families...


I agree with this completely
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Abyssea
06/20/18 9:20:10 AM
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Better border security. Go ahead and build the wall if that would actually help. :v I'm not sure the logistics behind it, but it did work for China.
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I4NRulez
06/20/18 9:21:10 AM
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Abyssea posted...
Better border security. Go ahead and build the wall if that would actually help. :v I'm not sure the logistics behind it, but it did work for China.


The wall is pointless since more illegals come by expired visas. It's definitely not worth the money. Only morons actually think a bigger wall will work
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HypnoCoosh
06/20/18 9:21:53 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Who knew that when conservatives have been talking about "immigration reform" that this whole entire time they really meant "baby concentration camps".

Conservatives need to start speaking in whole sentences.


Don't be a partisan hack.

The same shit has been happening for a decade but the media only shows it now because "nevertrump"
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Abyssea
06/20/18 9:22:38 AM
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I4NRulez posted...
Abyssea posted...
Better border security. Go ahead and build the wall if that would actually help. :v I'm not sure the logistics behind it, but it did work for China.


The wall is pointless since more illegals come by expired visas. It's definitely not worth the money. Only morons actually think a bigger wall will work


What can we do about the expired visa issue?
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Anarchy_Juiblex
06/20/18 9:23:01 AM
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Secure the border.
Keep DACA for current illegals, NO NEW ONES.
Path to legal residency for current illegals, never a path to citizenship.
Expand the H-1B visa program.
Speedy deportations for anyone that refuses to get on the path to legal residency.
Criminal charges for new entries.

One last hurray then no more amnesty going forward.
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HypnoCoosh
06/20/18 9:25:25 AM
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M_Live posted...
a wall isn't really going to do anything


You know something like 65 countries have walls to help control illegal migrant problems.
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A_Good_Boy
06/20/18 9:27:21 AM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Who knew that when conservatives have been talking about "immigration reform" that this whole entire time they really meant "baby concentration camps".

Conservatives need to start speaking in whole sentences.


Don't be a partisan hack.

The same shit has been happening for a decade but the media only shows it now because "nevertrump"

https://apnews.com/26b88518310f47018b724e200b28e88f

In 2008, President George W. Bush focused on the problem of minors crossing the border without their parents and signed a law unanimously passed by Congress that called for such "unaccompanied minors" to be released into the "least restrictive setting."

By 2014, President Barack Obama was facing an influx of both children traveling alone and families as a result of violence in Central America. At one point, his administration tried housing the families in special detention centers. But after a federal judge in California ruled the arrangement violated a long-standing agreement barring kids from jail-like settings, even with their parents, the government began releasing families in to the U.S. pending notification of their next court date.

Fast forward to Trump, who campaigned on building a border wall, and Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who derided these longtime U.S. immigration practices as "catch and release." Trump and Sessions insisted that people exploit the system, even traveling with children to ensure they aren't jailed and slipping away before their court dates.

SO DID U.S. POLICY CHANGE OR NOT?

Yes. While Trump's new immigration policy doesn't call for families to be separated, as pointed out by Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, the policy makes separations inevitable.

Following Trump's election, then-Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly now Trump's White House chief of staff floated the idea of separating families as a way to discourage illegal border crossings. But much of the administration's focus went into a travel ban aimed at Muslim-majority nations.

By this April, Sessions announced a plan: The U.S. would have "zero tolerance" for illegal crossings. If a person doesn't arrive at an appropriate port of entry to claim asylum, the crossing is deemed illegal and prosecuted even if the person does not have a criminal history. With the adult detained and facing prosecution, any minors accompanying them are taken away.


Huh, that's weird. Looks like you're wrong.
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I4NRulez
06/20/18 9:28:38 AM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
M_Live posted...
a wall isn't really going to do anything


You know something like 65 countries have walls to help control illegal migrant problems.


A quick Google search says it's about 20
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HypnoCoosh
06/20/18 9:32:18 AM
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M_Live posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
M_Live posted...
a wall isn't really going to do anything


You know something like 65 countries have walls to help control illegal migrant problems.

Explain to me how a wall stops boats, planes, smuggling trucks, tunnels, expired/fake visas etc. etc. etc. Our immigration situation is maybe a wee bit different than others. A wall isn't changing shit. It's 100% a waste of money, and 100% only spewed out as racist rhetoric


You're so fixated on racism it's all you ever spew.

Most illegals in America are border runners. It's just a fact.
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HypnoCoosh
06/20/18 9:33:51 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Huh, that's weird. Looks like you're wrong.


It's all here.

https://www.aclu.org/files/pdfs/immigrants/flores_v_meese_agreement.pdf

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca9/08-16484/0816484-2011-02-25.html

http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2017/07/05/17-55208.pdf
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A_Good_Boy
06/20/18 9:35:42 AM
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Uncle Choad
06/20/18 9:54:32 AM
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Sure, but build a wall.

It's easier to let the media use children as propaganda for your party, though. Easier to just do nothing.
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