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Sir Will 06/18/18 11:58:00 AM #1:	Horrific. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/17/us/immigration-deported-parents.html "Anthony was sent to a shelter for migrant children. And she was put on a plane back to Guatemala." From our work on the border, we have seen a significant increase in the number of moms separated from their children, and many of them have reported they didnt even have a chance to say goodbye before the separation" "Poor coordination among them has made it hard to track children and parents once their paths diverge in the labyrinthine system." "In some cases, parents and children have gone weeks without being able to communicate with one another and without knowing one anothers whereabouts." "Children whose parents have been arrested are transferred to the custody of the Health and Human Services Department, whose staff screens them, finds housing and remains responsible for them. From that point, migrant parents and children become separate legal cases in the maze of government bureaucracy, and keeping them linked has proved challenging. Different legal protections are afforded to juveniles and adults in the immigration system, and as a result, reuniting families can take months or longer, several legal experts said." ""In federal court, parents typically plead guilty to the misdemeanor offense of illegal entry. Many are then likely to accept expedited removal from the country, in the hope of being reunited quickly with their children. But children cannot be subject to expedited removal; they are automatically entitled to a full hearing before an immigration judge, and their cases take longer to resolve. Once the parent and child are apart, they are on separate legal tracks, said John Sandweg, who was acting director of ICE during the Obama administration." --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:903497869] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote>Horrific. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/17/us/immigration-deported-parents.html "Anthony was sent to a shelter for migrant children. And she was put on a plane back to Guatemala." From our work on the border, we have seen a significant increase in the number of moms separated from their children, and many of them have reported they didnt even have a chance to say goodbye before the separation" "Poor coordination among them has made it hard to track children and parents once their paths diverge in the labyrinthine system." "In some cases, parents and children have gone weeks without being able to communicate with one another and without knowing one anothers whereabouts." "Children whose parents have been arrested are transferred to the custody of the Health and Human Services Department, whose staff screens them, finds housing and remains responsible for them. From that point, migrant parents and children become separate legal cases in the maze of government bureaucracy, and keeping them linked has proved challenging. Different legal protections are afforded to juveniles and adults in the immigration system, and as a result, reuniting families can take months or longer, several legal experts said." ""In federal court, parents typically plead guilty to the misdemeanor offense of illegal entry. Many are then likely to accept expedited removal from the country, in the hope of being reunited quickly with their children. But children cannot be subject to expedited removal; they are automatically entitled to a full hearing before an immigration judge, and their cases take longer to resolve. Once the parent and child are apart, they are on separate legal tracks, said John Sandweg, who was acting director of ICE during the Obama administration."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
southcoast09 06/18/18 11:59:45 AM #2:	What reaction are we supposed to give? The American people opposed this chain migration and we shouldnt be guilted. --- Stand for the anthem or sit for the game! <cite>southcoast09 posted [p:903497966] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote>What reaction are we supposed to give? The American people opposed this chain migration and we shouldnt be guilted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shuto-uke 06/18/18 12:00:10 PM #3:	Sir Will posted... Poor coordination This sounds like bullshit. Sir Will posted... Once the parent and child are apart, they are on separate legal tracks This sounds more honest. This is all by design. <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:903497993] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote>Poor coordination </quote> This sounds like bullshit. <cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote>Once the parent and child are apart, they are on separate legal tracks</quote> This sounds more honest. This is all by design.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BWLurker2 06/18/18 12:02:28 PM #4:	We all know that MAGA means Minority Americans:Go Away <cite>BWLurker2 posted [p:903498106] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote>We all know that MAGA means Minority Americans:Go Away</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abyssea 06/18/18 12:03:54 PM #5:	well, the law is the law. why didn't these people enter the country legally? --- https://imgur.com/F2h5rw2 <cite>Abyssea posted [p:903498199] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote>well, the law is the law. why didn't these people enter the country legally?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonGirlYuki 06/18/18 12:05:56 PM #6:	So the law is being applied correctly. I don't see any issues other than some people calling for preferential treatment based on emotions. --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:903498341] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote>So the law is being applied correctly. I don't see any issues other than some people calling for preferential treatment based on emotions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 06/18/18 12:07:24 PM #7:	I don't get the point in keeping the kid if they are deporting the mom. why not deport the kid too? isn't this now like...literally international kidnapping at this point? you can't just claim a foreign child. if another country did that to an american child, we would go to war with them <cite>Zikten posted [p:903498420] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote>I don't get the point in keeping the kid if they are deporting the mom. why not deport the kid too? isn't this now like...literally international kidnapping at this point? you can't just claim a foreign child. if another country did that to an american child, we would go to war with them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sylverlolol 06/18/18 12:07:55 PM #8:	Abyssea posted... well, the law is the law. why didn't these people enter the country legally? Most of these people are showing up here asking for asylum...they aren't just border hopping or trying to sneak across. Shut the fuck up. --- This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. <cite>sylverlolol posted [p:903498449] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote>well, the law is the law. why didn't these people enter the country legally?</quote> Most of these people are showing up here asking for asylum...they aren't just border hopping or trying to sneak across. Shut the fuck up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abyssea 06/18/18 12:10:41 PM #9:	sylverlolol posted... Abyssea posted... well, the law is the law. why didn't these people enter the country legally? Most of these people are showing up here asking for asylum...they aren't just border hopping or trying to sneak across. Shut the fuck up. if you ask and you don't get it, that doesn't mean come in anyway. we can't just let everyone with a sob story into the country. --- https://imgur.com/F2h5rw2 <cite>Abyssea posted [p:903498611] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>sylverlolol posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote>well, the law is the law. why didn't these people enter the country legally?</quote> Most of these people are showing up here asking for asylum...they aren't just border hopping or trying to sneak across. Shut the fuck up.</quote> if you ask and you don't get it, that doesn't mean come in anyway. we can't just let everyone with a sob story into the country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonGirlYuki 06/18/18 12:11:30 PM #10:	Zikten posted... I don't get the point in keeping the kid if they are deporting the mom. why not deport the kid too? isn't this now like...literally international kidnapping at this point? you can't just claim a foreign child. if another country did that to an american child, we would go to war with them The kid is entitled to a full immigration hearing before deportation while adults can get express deportation. --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:903498657] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get the point in keeping the kid if they are deporting the mom. why not deport the kid too? isn't this now like...literally international kidnapping at this point? you can't just claim a foreign child. if another country did that to an american child, we would go to war with them</quote> The kid is entitled to a full immigration hearing before deportation while adults can get express deportation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 06/18/18 12:11:49 PM #11:	A law's presence on the books doesn't make it just --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:903498681] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote>A law's presence on the books doesn't make it just</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreveraIone 06/18/18 12:12:09 PM #12:	can we please stop pretending we are the good guys --- https://imgur.com/aVTScxQ Always. Edgy. <cite>foreveraIone posted [p:903498694] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote>can we please stop pretending we are the good guys</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 06/18/18 12:12:35 PM #13:	DragonGirlYuki posted... The kid is entitled to a full immigration hearing before deportation while adults can get express deportation. that just sounds backwards though. it's hurting the kid. entitled? he doesn't need the hearing. it's best for him to go back with his mom. who's gonna take care of him? so say he wins the hearing.... now he lives as an orphan in a foreign country. wtf <cite>Zikten posted [p:903498724] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote>The kid is entitled to a full immigration hearing before deportation while adults can get express deportation.</quote> that just sounds backwards though. it's hurting the kid. entitled? he doesn't need the hearing. it's best for him to go back with his mom. who's gonna take care of him? so say he wins the hearing.... now he lives as an orphan in a foreign country. wtf</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 06/18/18 12:13:23 PM #14:	DragonGirlYuki posted... So the law is being applied correctly. I don't see any issues other than some people calling for preferential treatment based on emotions. --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:903498762] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote>So the law is being applied correctly. I don't see any issues other than some people calling for preferential treatment based on emotions.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0TiamaT0 06/18/18 12:13:30 PM #15:	sylverlolol posted... Abyssea posted... well, the law is the law. why didn't these people enter the country legally? Most of these people are showing up here asking for asylum...they aren't just border hopping or trying to sneak across. Shut the fuck up. The majority of Americans have made it clear that they dont want more illegals coming in. President Trump has several press conferences where he made it clear they werent welcome. If they continue to come, knowing theyll be separated - thats on them. --- https://youtu.be/JDHvYdi6Bu4 <cite>0TiamaT0 posted [p:903498768] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>sylverlolol posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote>well, the law is the law. why didn't these people enter the country legally?</quote> Most of these people are showing up here asking for asylum...they aren't just border hopping or trying to sneak across. Shut the fuck up.</quote> The majority of Americans have made it clear that they dont want more illegals coming in. President Trump has several press conferences where he made it clear they werent welcome. If they continue to come, knowing theyll be separated - thats on them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BWLurker 06/18/18 12:14:40 PM #16:	0TiamaT0 posted... The majority of Americans have made it clear that they dont want more illegals coming in. The majority of Americans have also made it clear that we don't approve of the Dipshit as president <cite>BWLurker posted [p:903498835] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>0TiamaT0 posted...</cite> <quote>The majority of Americans have made it clear that they dont want more illegals coming in.</quote> The majority of Americans have also made it clear that we don't approve of the Dipshit as president</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
treewojima 06/18/18 12:18:07 PM #17:	Abyssea posted... sylverlolol posted... Abyssea posted... well, the law is the law. why didn't these people enter the country legally? Most of these people are showing up here asking for asylum...they aren't just border hopping or trying to sneak across. Shut the fuck up. if you ask and you don't get it, that doesn't mean come in anyway. we can't just let everyone with a sob story into the country. the process for US asylum literally begins at the border. if they approached an embassy or otherwise requested legal entry into the country beforehand, they would be handled under the refugee process which is different in other words, the only way to initiate the asylum process is to waltz up to the border and ask for asylum. under current policy you're then held in custody until a decision is reached <cite>treewojima posted [p:903499067] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sylverlolol posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote> well, the law is the law. why didn't these people enter the country legally? </quote> Most of these people are showing up here asking for asylum...they aren't just border hopping or trying to sneak across. Shut the fuck up.</quote> if you ask and you don't get it, that doesn't mean come in anyway. we can't just let everyone with a sob story into the country.</quote> the process for US asylum literally begins at the border. if they approached an embassy or otherwise requested legal entry into the country beforehand, they would be handled under the refugee process which is different in other words, the only way to initiate the asylum process is to waltz up to the border and ask for asylum. under current policy you're then held in custody until a decision is reached</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 06/18/18 12:18:23 PM #18:	0TiamaT0 posted... If they continue to come, knowing theyll be separated - thats on them. Even if you believe this, it does not mean we are right for doing it --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:903499081] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>0TiamaT0 posted...</cite> <quote>If they continue to come, knowing theyll be separated - thats on them.</quote> Even if you believe this, it does not mean we are right for doing it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abyssea 06/18/18 12:18:44 PM #19:	BWLurker posted... 0TiamaT0 posted... The majority of Americans have made it clear that they dont want more illegals coming in. The majority of Americans have also made it clear that we don't approve of the Dipshit as president I don't like Trump either, but I still believe we need strong immigration policies for our own security. We only have so many people we can accommodate. People who enter illegally are just making things harder for everyone. Just wait your turn please. Fill out the paperwork. If you get put on a waiting list for a kidney transplant do you start running around trying to steal someone's kidney? No. You wait. :v --- https://imgur.com/F2h5rw2 <cite>Abyssea posted [p:903499100] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>BWLurker posted...</cite> <quote><cite>0TiamaT0 posted...</cite> <quote>The majority of Americans have made it clear that they dont want more illegals coming in.</quote> The majority of Americans have also made it clear that we don't approve of the Dipshit as president</quote> I don't like Trump either, but I still believe we need strong immigration policies for our own security. We only have so many people we can accommodate. People who enter illegally are just making things harder for everyone. Just wait your turn please. Fill out the paperwork. If you get put on a waiting list for a kidney transplant do you start running around trying to steal someone's kidney? No. You wait. :v</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abyssea 06/18/18 12:21:00 PM #21:	treewojima posted... the process for US asylum literally begins at the border. if they approached an embassy or otherwise requested legal entry into the country beforehand, they would be handled under the refugee process which is differentin other words, the only way to initiate the asylum process is to waltz up to the border and ask for asylum. under current policy you're then held in custody until a decision is reached That isn't what this lady did though... Theyd had a plan: Elsa Johana Ortiz Enriquez packed up what little she had in Guatemala and traveled across Mexico with her 8-year-old son, Anthony. In a group, they rafted across the Rio Grande into Texas. From there they intended to join her boyfriend, Edgar, who had found a construction job in the United States. She rafted across the Rio Grande and made a run for her boyfriend. :v The lady had to know what she was doing was wrong. --- https://imgur.com/F2h5rw2 <cite>Abyssea posted [p:903499244] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>treewojima posted...</cite> <quote>the process for US asylum literally begins at the border. if they approached an embassy or otherwise requested legal entry into the country beforehand, they would be handled under the refugee process which is differentin other words, the only way to initiate the asylum process is to waltz up to the border and ask for asylum. under current policy you're then held in custody until a decision is reached</quote> That isn't what this lady did though... Theyd had a plan: Elsa Johana Ortiz Enriquez packed up what little she had in Guatemala and traveled across Mexico with her 8-year-old son, Anthony. In a group, they rafted across the Rio Grande into Texas. From there they intended to join her boyfriend, Edgar, who had found a construction job in the United States. She rafted across the Rio Grande and made a run for her boyfriend. :v The lady had to know what she was doing was wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BWLurker 06/18/18 12:21:05 PM #22:	Abyssea posted... Just wait your turn please. Fill out the paperwork. If you get put on a waiting list for a kidney transplant do you start running around trying to steal someone's kidney? No. You wait. :v Unless you're rich or know people in a position of power who can pull strings <cite>BWLurker posted [p:903499247] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote>Just wait your turn please. Fill out the paperwork. If you get put on a waiting list for a kidney transplant do you start running around trying to steal someone's kidney? No. You wait. :v</quote> Unless you're rich or know people in a position of power who can pull strings</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/18/18 12:21:46 PM #23:	southcoast09 posted... What reaction are we supposed to give? The American people opposed this chain migration and we shouldnt be guilted. "Chain Migration" is harmless. https://www.uscis.gov/greencard/affidavit-support Abyssea posted... She rafted across the Rio Grande and made a run for her boyfriend. :v The lady had to know what she was doing was wrong. See that link above for how it should have been done, rather than sneaking across two borders. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:903499283] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>southcoast09 posted...</cite> <quote>What reaction are we supposed to give? The American people opposed this chain migration and we shouldnt be guilted.</quote> "Chain Migration" is harmless. https://www.uscis.gov/greencard/affidavit-support <cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote>She rafted across the Rio Grande and made a run for her boyfriend. :v The lady had to know what she was doing was wrong.</quote>See that link above for how it should have been done, rather than sneaking across two borders.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0TiamaT0 06/18/18 12:23:01 PM #24:	eston posted... 0TiamaT0 posted... If they continue to come, knowing theyll be separated - thats on them. Even if you believe this, it does not mean we are right for doing it We have a right to a sovereign border. And since they continue to break our laws, there should be clear consequences for doing so. --- https://youtu.be/JDHvYdi6Bu4 <cite>0TiamaT0 posted [p:903499352] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote><cite>0TiamaT0 posted...</cite> <quote>If they continue to come, knowing theyll be separated - thats on them.</quote> Even if you believe this, it does not mean we are right for doing it</quote> We have a right to a sovereign border. And since they continue to break our laws, there should be clear consequences for doing so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 06/18/18 12:23:45 PM #25:	This is America. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:903499407] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote>This is America.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0TiamaT0 06/18/18 12:23:57 PM #26:	BWLurker posted... 0TiamaT0 posted... The majority of Americans have made it clear that they dont want more illegals coming in. The majority of Americans have also made it clear that we don't approve of the Dipshit as president Then complain to the democrats for their shitty alternative for President. When they finally show someone that isnt going to cater to the dregs of the left, maybe theyll actually win... --- https://youtu.be/JDHvYdi6Bu4 <cite>0TiamaT0 posted [p:903499426] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>BWLurker posted...</cite> <quote><cite>0TiamaT0 posted...</cite> <quote>The majority of Americans have made it clear that they dont want more illegals coming in.</quote> The majority of Americans have also made it clear that we don't approve of the Dipshit as president</quote> Then complain to the democrats for their shitty alternative for President. When they finally show someone that isnt going to cater to the dregs of the left, maybe theyll actually win...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KillerKhan420 06/18/18 12:24:28 PM #27:	This is going to cause bleeding hearts to cry cry cry. What about the children! I say don't separate them, send them back with their parents. --- "I know how the business works because I'm a wrestling fan"-hulkhogan1 <cite>KillerKhan420 posted [p:903499453] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote>This is going to cause bleeding hearts to cry cry cry. What about the children! I say don't separate them, send them back with their parents.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 06/18/18 12:33:30 PM #28:	I knew CE was a cesspool but damn. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:903499943] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote>I knew CE was a cesspool but damn.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spudger 06/18/18 12:34:25 PM #29:	Sir Will posted... I knew CE was a cesspool but damn. its mostly the trump supporters at this point --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html <cite>spudger posted [p:903499990] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote>I knew CE was a cesspool but damn.</quote> its mostly the trump supporters at this point</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BWLurker 06/18/18 12:40:39 PM #30:	spudger posted... Sir Will posted... I knew CE was a cesspool but damn. its mostly the trump supporters at this point Trump apologists. The supporters, as very few and far between as they are, are willing to admit his faults. <cite>BWLurker posted [p:903500374] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>spudger posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote>I knew CE was a cesspool but damn.</quote> its mostly the trump supporters at this point</quote> Trump apologists. The supporters, as very few and far between as they are, are willing to admit his faults.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spudger 06/18/18 12:42:17 PM #31:	BWLurker posted... spudger posted... Sir Will posted... I knew CE was a cesspool but damn. its mostly the trump supporters at this point Trump apologists. The supporters, as very few and far between as they are, are willing to admit his faults. at this point i dont know any supporters who aren't slurping. its like the more criticism he gets, the more cultish they become. --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html <cite>spudger posted [p:903500467] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>BWLurker posted...</cite> <quote><cite>spudger posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote>I knew CE was a cesspool but damn.</quote> its mostly the trump supporters at this point</quote> Trump apologists. The supporters, as very few and far between as they are, are willing to admit his faults.</quote> at this point i dont know any supporters who aren't slurping. its like the more criticism he gets, the more cultish they become.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonGirlYuki 06/18/18 12:42:59 PM #32:	Zikten posted... DragonGirlYuki posted... The kid is entitled to a full immigration hearing before deportation while adults can get express deportation. that just sounds backwards though. it's hurting the kid. entitled? he doesn't need the hearing. it's best for him to go back with his mom. who's gonna take care of him? so say he wins the hearing.... now he lives as an orphan in a foreign country. wtf Kids can't wave their hearing and get express deportation. It might have to do with the fact that they are not mature enough to competently wave their rights. --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:903500516] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote>The kid is entitled to a full immigration hearing before deportation while adults can get express deportation.</quote> that just sounds backwards though. it's hurting the kid. entitled? he doesn't need the hearing. it's best for him to go back with his mom. who's gonna take care of him? so say he wins the hearing.... now he lives as an orphan in a foreign country. wtf</quote> Kids can't wave their hearing and get express deportation. It might have to do with the fact that they are not mature enough to competently wave their rights.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 06/18/18 12:45:13 PM #33:	DragonGirlYuki posted... So the law is being applied correctly. I don't see any issues other than some people calling for preferential treatment based on emotions. The law is unethical and should be changed --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:903500649] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote>So the law is being applied correctly. I don't see any issues other than some people calling for preferential treatment based on emotions.</quote> The law is unethical and should be changed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peter_Giffyndor 06/18/18 12:46:15 PM #34:	DragonGirlYuki posted... So the law is being applied correctly. I don't see any issues other than some people calling for preferential treatment based on emotions. But it's way more fun to pretend Trump personally made these immigration laws and no other acting president has ever enforced them. <cite>Peter_Giffyndor posted [p:903500710] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote>So the law is being applied correctly. I don't see any issues other than some people calling for preferential treatment based on emotions.</quote> But it's way more fun to pretend Trump personally made these immigration laws and no other acting president has ever enforced them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lww99 06/18/18 12:46:17 PM #35:	Abyssea posted... treewojima posted... the process for US asylum literally begins at the border. if they approached an embassy or otherwise requested legal entry into the country beforehand, they would be handled under the refugee process which is differentin other words, the only way to initiate the asylum process is to waltz up to the border and ask for asylum. under current policy you're then held in custody until a decision is reached That isn't what this lady did though... Theyd had a plan: Elsa Johana Ortiz Enriquez packed up what little she had in Guatemala and traveled across Mexico with her 8-year-old son, Anthony. In a group, they rafted across the Rio Grande into Texas. From there they intended to join her boyfriend, Edgar, who had found a construction job in the United States. She rafted across the Rio Grande and made a run for her boyfriend. :v The lady had to know what she was doing was wrong. Go away mo foe --- http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h239/nhottbarbwire/owningroad_zps2333f502.gif <cite>lww99 posted [p:903500711] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote><cite>treewojima posted...</cite> <quote>the process for US asylum literally begins at the border. if they approached an embassy or otherwise requested legal entry into the country beforehand, they would be handled under the refugee process which is differentin other words, the only way to initiate the asylum process is to waltz up to the border and ask for asylum. under current policy you're then held in custody until a decision is reached</quote> That isn't what this lady did though... Theyd had a plan: Elsa Johana Ortiz Enriquez packed up what little she had in Guatemala and traveled across Mexico with her 8-year-old son, Anthony. In a group, they rafted across the Rio Grande into Texas. From there they intended to join her boyfriend, Edgar, who had found a construction job in the United States. She rafted across the Rio Grande and made a run for her boyfriend. :v The lady had to know what she was doing was wrong.</quote> Go away mo foe</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/18/18 12:46:44 PM #36:	DarkChozoGhost posted... DragonGirlYuki posted... So the law is being applied correctly. I don't see any issues other than some people calling for preferential treatment based on emotions. The law is unethical and should be changed https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:903500736] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkChozoGhost posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote>So the law is being applied correctly. I don't see any issues other than some people calling for preferential treatment based on emotions.</quote> The law is unethical and should be changed</quote> https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 06/18/18 12:47:57 PM #37:	Antifar posted... A law's presence on the books doesn't make it just But it's still the law all the same. Feelings don't change that. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 3 (2) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:903500809] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>A law's presence on the books doesn't make it just</quote> But it's still the law all the same. Feelings don't change that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoungMakaiyum 06/18/18 12:47:59 PM #38:	Zikten posted... I don't get the point in keeping the kid if they are deporting the mom. why not deport the kid too? isn't this now like...literally international kidnapping at this point? you can't just claim a foreign child. if another country did that to an american child, we would go to war with them this tbh <cite>YoungMakaiyum posted [p:903500815] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get the point in keeping the kid if they are deporting the mom. why not deport the kid too? isn't this now like...literally international kidnapping at this point? you can't just claim a foreign child. if another country did that to an american child, we would go to war with them</quote> this tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 06/18/18 12:48:58 PM #39:	DragonGirlYuki posted... Zikten posted... DragonGirlYuki posted... The kid is entitled to a full immigration hearing before deportation while adults can get express deportation. that just sounds backwards though. it's hurting the kid. entitled? he doesn't need the hearing. it's best for him to go back with his mom. who's gonna take care of him? so say he wins the hearing.... now he lives as an orphan in a foreign country. wtf Kids can't wave their hearing and get express deportation. It might have to do with the fact that they are not mature enough to competently wave their rights. Parents should not be deported without their kids. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:903500864] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote>The kid is entitled to a full immigration hearing before deportation while adults can get express deportation.</quote> that just sounds backwards though. it's hurting the kid. entitled? he doesn't need the hearing. it's best for him to go back with his mom. who's gonna take care of him? so say he wins the hearing.... now he lives as an orphan in a foreign country. wtf</quote> Kids can't wave their hearing and get express deportation. It might have to do with the fact that they are not mature enough to competently wave their rights.</quote> Parents should not be deported without their kids.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peter_Giffyndor 06/18/18 12:51:07 PM #40:	Hate to break up the anti Trump circle jerk, and I know how much you all hate facts, but... https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-numbers/story%3fid=41715661 <cite>Peter_Giffyndor posted [p:903500988] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote>Hate to break up the anti Trump circle jerk, and I know how much you all hate facts, but... https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-numbers/story%3fid=41715661</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 06/18/18 12:51:51 PM #41:	0TiamaT0 posted... President Trump has several press conferences where he made it clear they werent welcome. So you might not be aware, but these people don't have C-SPAN, or in fact, televisions. Sir Will posted... I knew CE was a cesspool but damn. The Trump apologists have to be in force in all these topics. They HAVE to. Every damn time this comes up. They have to defend, excuse, and deflect, because they know deep down what's going on is wrong, but their pride makes them feel they've gone too far and can't turn back now. They're not trying to convince us. They're trying to convince themselves. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:903501042] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>0TiamaT0 posted...</cite> <quote>President Trump has several press conferences where he made it clear they werent welcome.</quote> So you might not be aware, but these people don't have C-SPAN, or in fact, televisions. <cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote>I knew CE was a cesspool but damn.</quote> The Trump apologists have to be in force in all these topics. They HAVE to. Every damn time this comes up. They have to defend, excuse, and deflect, because they know deep down what's going on is wrong, but their pride makes them feel they've gone too far and can't turn back now. They're not trying to convince us. They're trying to convince themselves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BWLurker2 06/18/18 12:53:47 PM #42:	Peter_Giffyndor posted... Hate to break up the anti Trump circle jerk, and I know how much you all hate facts, but... https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-numbers/story%3fid=41715661 Again, from your article. Obama focused on criminals, not families. Stop being a disingenuous Trump apologist. Who is not being deported? With the focus on criminals and not families, the administration has moved away from those living and working in the U.S. without a criminal history. "Felons, not families. Criminals, not children. Gang members, not a mom whos working hard to provide for her kids. Well prioritize, just like law enforcement does every day," Obama said in November 2014 when announcing his executive action on immigration. And while he tried to provide relief and a way "out of the shadows" for those without criminal histories with his immigration action, that was eventually stricken down by the Supreme Court not issuing a decision on the case, thereby upholding the lower courts action. But by refocusing on criminals most families who are living and following the law are not targets for deportations. <cite>BWLurker2 posted [p:903501146] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>Peter_Giffyndor posted...</cite> <quote>Hate to break up the anti Trump circle jerk, and I know how much you all hate facts, but... https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-numbers/story%3fid=41715661</quote> Again, from your article. Obama focused on criminals, not families. Stop being a disingenuous Trump apologist. <quote>Who is not being deported? With the focus on criminals and not families, the administration has moved away from those living and working in the U.S. without a criminal history. "Felons, not families. Criminals, not children. Gang members, not a mom whos working hard to provide for her kids. Well prioritize, just like law enforcement does every day," Obama said in November 2014 when announcing his executive action on immigration. And while he tried to provide relief and a way "out of the shadows" for those without criminal histories with his immigration action, that was eventually stricken down by the Supreme Court not issuing a decision on the case, thereby upholding the lower courts action. But by refocusing on criminals most families who are living and following the law are not targets for deportations.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 06/18/18 12:55:02 PM #43:	She shouldn't have come in the first place. She knew the consequences, so losing her son was a direct result of her irresponsibility. --- "You will pay dearly for your futile resistance!" <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:903501217] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote>She shouldn't have come in the first place. She knew the consequences, so losing her son was a direct result of her irresponsibility.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peter_Giffyndor 06/18/18 12:57:30 PM #44:	BWLurker2 posted... Again, from your article. Obama focused on criminals, not families. Stop being a disingenuous Trump apologist. The law is the law though. Is it not accurate to say the leader who picks and chooses to whom it applies is more of a dictator than the one who applies it fairly and uniformly? Also by definition, someone illegally crossing a border is by definition a criminal. Derp. <cite>Peter_Giffyndor posted [p:903501379] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>BWLurker2 posted...</cite> <quote> Again, from your article. Obama focused on criminals, not families. Stop being a disingenuous Trump apologist. </quote> The law is the law though. Is it not accurate to say the leader who picks and chooses to whom it applies is more of a dictator than the one who applies it fairly and uniformly? Also by definition, someone illegally crossing a border is by definition a criminal. Derp.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sir Will 06/18/18 12:58:49 PM #46:	Peter_Giffyndor posted... the one who applies it fairly and uniformly? LOL --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:903501462] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>Peter_Giffyndor posted...</cite> <quote>the one who applies it fairly and uniformly?</quote> LOL</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 06/18/18 12:59:51 PM #47:	SageHarpuia posted... She shouldn't have come in the first place. She knew the consequences, so losing her son was a direct result of her irresponsibility. yea but your ignoring the fact that it's hurting the kid. you think it's to harm a child to get revenge on it's mother? the kid is innocent. but if you read up on what's going on, some of these kids get abused and some have ended up dead or raped. the program they go into is not safe for them. tons of them end up as work or sex slaves and the government loses track of t hem and nobody knows where they are now <cite>Zikten posted [p:903501521] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>SageHarpuia posted...</cite> <quote>She shouldn't have come in the first place. She knew the consequences, so losing her son was a direct result of her irresponsibility.</quote> yea but your ignoring the fact that it's hurting the kid. you think it's to harm a child to get revenge on it's mother? the kid is innocent. but if you read up on what's going on, some of these kids get abused and some have ended up dead or raped. the program they go into is not safe for them. tons of them end up as work or sex slaves and the government loses track of t hem and nobody knows where they are now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 06/18/18 1:01:34 PM #48:	Zikten posted... yea but your ignoring the fact that it's hurting the kid. Laws don't end where your feelings begin. Contact your representatives if you want the laws changed. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 3 (2) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:903501633] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>yea but your ignoring the fact that it's hurting the kid.</quote> Laws don't end where your feelings begin. Contact your representatives if you want the laws changed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HypnoCoosh 06/18/18 1:02:31 PM #50:	Zikten posted... ignoring the fact You got a source for these so called "facts" --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis <cite>HypnoCoosh posted [p:903501691] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote> ignoring the fact</quote> You got a source for these so called "facts"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 06/18/18 1:02:37 PM #51:	honestly I don't get why these countries they are coming from haven't declared war on us. we are kidnapping their kids. and using them as slave labor <cite>Zikten posted [p:903501700] in 'I Can't G... [t:76726404]...</cite> <quote>honestly I don't get why these countries they are coming from haven't declared war on us. we are kidnapping their kids. and using them as slave labor</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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