Current Events > ICE tricks Chinese-US resident with Green Card interview, deports him instead.

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Shuto-uke posted...

So if the law changed tomorrow, and actually demanded the public execution of these toddlers, you'd be shilling for it just as hard?

"iT's ThE lAw!!"

gmanthebest posted...

Why is America evil for enforcing their immigrating policy, but other countries that enforce theirs are a-ok?

I think it's mostly the whole "separating families", "missing children", and all the other shit ICE does that just smacks of pettiness and pointless cruelty.
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Also I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet but I'm p sure that crossing the border illegally is a misdemeanor

You gonna start putting people in camps and start ripping families apart when someone has a parking violation now? iT's ThE lAw after all
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

>Fights any sort of immigration reform and border security for decades.
>Whines when those that take power don't do it in your preferred and measured way.

Maybe if open borders wasn't the attempted policy from the radical left the pendulum wouldn't have swung so fucking hard eh?

Which is why we shouldn't let the radicals come to power. Too late now.
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ClunkerSlim posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

thrashmetal14 posted...

Being married to an American and having American children should probably be enough to stay in the fuckin country.

exactly

How the fuck is it not? Dude has an American wife, American kids, runs an American business, and pays American taxes. The guy was trying to follow the rules and showed up for a green card. For all intents and purposes this guy was an American. ICE is deporting Americans now.

Lets call this what it is. Its not about keeping us safe, Its ICE picking low hanging fruit so they can claim theyre doing something. This is just to justify their own existence. Its bureaucracy at its worst. Theres no way you can say America is better off without this guy in it. Our country use to be a beacon of hope for the world, now its been turned into a joke.

he broke the law and refused to obey it
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KingKongKnows posted...

he broke the law

are we gonna start tossing people in camps now because they had a parking violation?
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Doom_Art posted...

KingKongKnows posted...

he broke the law

are we gonna start tossing people in camps now because they had a parking violation?

I mean, a parking ticket is still a ticket. Keep refusing to pay it and yeah eventually you'll get thrown in jail.
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Muffinz0rz posted...

mean, a parking ticket is still a ticket.

Yes, but you're not gonna take someone's family away because of that. Let the punishment fit the crime yo.

Muffinz0rz posted...

Keep refusing to pay it and yeah eventually you'll get thrown in jail.

Or you'll get thrown in jail on your way to pay it, apparently.
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is okay if you want to break the law and not bother facing consequences for a few years just live your life as you want to and stay a criminal
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KingKongKnows posted...

is okay if you want to break the law and not bother facing consequences for a few years just live your life as you want to and stay a criminal

who said that?
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Doom_Art posted...

Let the punishment fit the crime yo.

Deportation seems like the appropriate punishment for ignoring deportation papers.

Like how giving the money back would be assumed if you were caught stealing it.
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Doom_Art posted...

Also I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet but I'm p sure that crossing the border illegally is a misdemeanor

You gonna start putting people in camps and start ripping families apart when someone has a parking violation now? iT's ThE lAw after all

Ignoring tickets for 20 years is probably a bad idea tbh.
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ClunkerSlim posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

thrashmetal14 posted...

Being married to an American and having American children should probably be enough to stay in the fuckin country.

exactly

How the fuck is it not? Dude has an American wife, American kids, runs an American business, and pays American taxes. The guy was trying to follow the rules and showed up for a green card. For all intents and purposes this guy was an American. ICE is deporting Americans now.

Lets call this what it is. Its not about keeping us safe, Its ICE picking low hanging fruit so they can claim theyre doing something. This is just to justify their own existence. Its bureaucracy at its worst. Theres no way you can say America is better off without this guy in it. Our country use to be a beacon of hope for the world, now its been turned into a joke.

@ClunkerSlim he didn't do it the legal way. If you marry an american citizen, they qualify or a K1 visa, that way he will get a green card the legal way. You have to follow the legal protocol in order to get a green card.

Instead, he overstayed his asylum and was ordered to be deported. He should've known that before having children or marrying an american wife so it's his fault for being selfish.

btw, ICE isn't breaking up any families. He can bring his family to Asia if he wishes. He just can't live in the USA

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Remember when they were going to pass an immigration bill that protects dreamers along with border protections and other immigration reforms and the Dems shit on any good will down the line, killing the bill, all because Trump said something about "shithole" countries?

I mean, Trump was the one who was going to reject the bill because of the lack of funding for the wall and the whole visa lottery program (which is what spurred the "shithole countries" remark). Not really the dems fault there.
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fair, next.
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...

Yeah why not just drop all your shit, quit your job, abandon your house and move to another country you've never been to with money you might not have and no real way to survive once you get there or guaranteed access to basic necessities.

Yeah that doesn't sound incredibly fucking stupid and naive.

@Trigg3rH4ppy

Or they could....you know...try doing it the LEGAL way to begin with instead of overstaying a work visa or hopping a fence/wall? That way they don't have to be on edge for the rest of their lives.
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ThrillKillFan posted...

Or they could....you know...try doing it the LEGAL way to begin with instead of overstaying a work visa or hopping a fence/wall?

The guy escaped because his life was in fucking danger. If he went through the 'legal' way, then he'd be dead. This wasn't a fucking work visa.

He snuck into this country, and was then GRANTED ASYLUM for two years. That means that the government, at the very least, recognized, that he was facing persecution back in his old country.
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Two years later, he was issued an order of deportation -- one that was never executed in the last 16 years until last month when he went for his green card interview with his wife.

This is an example of agency failure. Why not enforce the deportation in a reasonable time? Its like getting hit with a felony warrant you never knew you had when getting pulled over. That being said, he was told to leave and didnt...
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Really fucked up, they oughtta be ashamed of themselves.
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twitterfriends posted...

Really fucked up, they oughtta be ashamed of themselves.

Yeah. They ought to be ashamed for not enforcing the deportation order sooner.
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ClunkerSlim posted...

The "legal" way can take up to 20 years and is a crap shoot. Do we need to post that jpeg again? I feel like that flow chart should always be post #2 for any immigration thread. Plus, you don't know what paperwork this guy had in the wind. He wasn't picked up off the street. He was lied to about green card paperwork being ready for him. Maybe this guy did have paperwork out there and thought something finally went through.

Yeah, cause that's what we need, to ship more good people out of the country.

so he cut the line, from people who have waited and paid relevant fees to get to this country legally. I'm the parents of immigrants and they had to wait 10 yrs, boohoo. Guess what? they got here in legal means. I have no sympathy for people trying to cut the line and doing this by illegal means.

The USA has laws, and if you intend to break those laws, don't come here. Otherwise come here by legal means and follow legal protocol.

btw, nobody is denying he's a probably a good person. That doesn't give him the right to break the law and cut in front of everyone.

Barenziah Boy Toy posted...

ThrillKillFan posted...

Or they could....you know...try doing it the LEGAL way to begin with instead of overstaying a work visa or hopping a fence/wall?

The guy escaped because his life was in fucking danger. If he went through the 'legal' way, then he'd be dead. This wasn't a fucking work visa.

He snuck into this country, and was then GRANTED ASYLUM for two years. That means that the government, at the very least, recognized, that he was facing persecution back in his old country.

yes, 2 yrs

then, he was ordered to be deported

why's he surprised that when they finally deported him, that he cries foul? He was not a legal citizen

Manosphere1 posted...

then, he was ordered to be deported

why's he surprised that when they finally deported him, that he cries foul? He was not a legal citizen

Because they told him that they would be seeing him about getting legalized, and instead, they went back on their word.
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twitterfriends posted...

Really fucked up, they oughtta be ashamed of themselves.

yep, same with the pitiful people jerking it to it happening to him
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...

Manosphere1 posted...

then, he was ordered to be deported

why's he surprised that when they finally deported him, that he cries foul? He was not a legal citizen

Because they told him that they would be seeing him about getting legalized, and instead, they went back on their word.

law enforcement can legally lie to you to help get an arrest or to get a conviction. ICE is a law enforcement agency, just like local PD, sheriffs, FBI, DEA, border enforcement, NSA, etc etc

you do realize that right?

ThrillKillFan posted...

Trigg3rH4ppy posted...

Yeah why not just drop all your shit, quit your job, abandon your house and move to another country you've never been to with money you might not have and no real way to survive once you get there or guaranteed access to basic necessities.

Yeah that doesn't sound incredibly fucking stupid and naive.

@Trigg3rH4ppy

Or they could....you know...try doing it the LEGAL way to begin with instead of overstaying a work visa or hopping a fence/wall? That way they don't have to be on edge for the rest of their lives.

Don't mention me and waste my time unless you have something intelligent to say.
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...

Don't mention me and waste my time unless you have something intelligent to say.

@Trigg3rH4ppy

So you would rather millions of them come here by breaking the law and we give them all a free pass then? I think you should take your own advice.
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ClunkerSlim posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

thrashmetal14 posted...

Being married to an American and having American children should probably be enough to stay in the fuckin country.

exactly

How the fuck is it not? Dude has an American wife, American kids, runs an American business, and pays American taxes. The guy was trying to follow the rules and showed up for a green card. For all intents and purposes this guy was an American. ICE is deporting Americans now.

Lets call this what it is. Its not about keeping us safe, Its ICE picking low hanging fruit so they can claim theyre doing something. This is just to justify their own existence. Its bureaucracy at its worst. Theres no way you can say America is better off without this guy in it. Our country use to be a beacon of hope for the world, now its been turned into a joke.

so he wasnt hiding ? going by some posts here i thought he was hiding to avoid being deported
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ThrillKillFan posted...

So you would rather millions of them come here by breaking the law and we give them all a free pass then? I think you should take your own advice.

No, just the ones who have proven productive and useful (aka DACA).
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...

No, just the ones who have proven productive and useful (aka DACA).

They're STILL here illegally though and most of them chose not to seek citizenship in the X years they've been here. I guess they figured they would just get citizenship by proxy somehow.
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ThrillKillFan posted...

most of them chose not to seek citizenship in the X years they've been here.

They DID THIS PRECISELY BECAUSE they were afraid of what Trumpastanis would do. And that's exactly what happened. The government pretends to give them a path to citizenship, AND THEN TRAPS THEM and DEPORTS them when they come in and do the right thing.

Because of this, they're NEVER going to trust the government unless the USSC guarantees them, IN WRITING, a path to citizenship.
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ThrillKillFan posted...

I guess they figured they would just get citizenship by proxy somehow.

There is no path to citizenship unless it's passed by law -- and given amnesty for previous infractions? Why should they turn themselves in and apply for citizenship, if the government is just gonna go back on their word and deport them anyway?

Why have EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU fucking bigoted trolls CONTINUE to ignore this point that I've repeated AD NAUSAEUM x 10 times in this thread?
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Maybe they should've come in SOONER then so they could get deported and then go through the process the RIGHT way.

None of these people are OWED citizenship.
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ThrillKillFan posted...

Maybe they should've come in SOONER then so they could get deported and then go through the process the RIGHT way.

None of these people are OWED citizenship.

They've certainly earned it - much more than ppl like Melania have. Or even Trump's whore-house running ancestors.
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ThrillKillFan posted...

Maybe they should've come in SOONER then so they could get deported and then go through the process the RIGHT way.

He came in to escape persecution. He RECEIVED ASYLUM from the US government - which demonstrates that he wasn't fucking kidding about it. If he went back, he'd likely be dead.
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...

No, just the ones who have proven productive and useful (aka DACA).

DACA only apply to children of parents who crossed illegally. it hardly ever protect adults. I believe there's a cutoff point if DACA apply. If you are an adult and crossed the USA illegally, DACA does not protect you.

Barenziah Boy Toy posted...

ThrillKillFan posted...

Maybe they should've come in SOONER then so they could get deported and then go through the process the RIGHT way.

He came in to escape persecution. He RECEIVED ASYLUM from the US government - which demonstrates that he wasn't fucking kidding about it. If he went back, he'd likely be dead.

yes, a temporary asylum for 2 yrs. After his 2 yrs were up, he was given a deportation order.

if he wants permanent residency(green card) he needs to get in line like every body else who paid fees and applied.

Manosphere1 posted...

if he wants permanent residency(green card) he needs to get in line like every body else who paid fees and applied.

And die.
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So, why didnt he leave when he was issued a deportation?
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Manosphere1 posted...

DACA only apply to children of parents who crossed illegally. it hardly ever protect adults. I believe there's a cutoff point if DACA apply. If you are an adult and crossed the USA illegally, DACA does not protect you.

Yes, I know. The point is that DACA is supposed to protect ppl who've proven productive and useful in American society, and can certainly be extended to ppl who were adults when crossing illegally.
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...

Manosphere1 posted...

if he wants permanent residency(green card) he needs to get in line like every body else who paid fees and applied.

And die.

weird, i didn't know China's 5 billion population is declining due to genocides

everyone has problems, boohoo.

dude needs to get in line like everybody else

Barenziah Boy Toy posted...

Manosphere1 posted...

DACA only apply to children of parents who crossed illegally. it hardly ever protect adults. I believe there's a cutoff point if DACA apply. If you are an adult and crossed the USA illegally, DACA does not protect you.

Yes, I know. The point is that DACA is supposed to protect ppl who've proven productive and useful in American society, and can certainly be extended to ppl who were adults when crossing illegally.

no, reread what DACA states. It only protect children of illegal crossers

an adult crossing illegally and becomes an upstanding citizen to avoid deportation detection from law enforcement isn't an exception.

Manosphere1 posted...

no, reread what DACA states. It only protect children of illegal crossers

an adult crossing illegally and becomes an upstanding citizen to avoid deportation detection from law enforcement isn't an exception.

I'm not talking about what DACA does now. I am SAYING that we can make legislation that does something SIMILAR to DACA and extend it to other people.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT, are you fucking daft.
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Scottydoesntno posted...

So, why didnt he leave when he was issued a deportation?

He didn't want to fucking die. There's a fucking reason why the US granted him ASYLUM, even though he snuck in here illegally. I can't believe how so many of you fucking trolls can be so ignorant.
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...

Scottydoesntno posted...

So, why didnt he leave when he was issued a deportation?

He didn't want to fucking die. There's a fucking reason why the US granted him ASYLUM, even though he snuck in here illegally. I can't believe how so many of you fucking trolls can be so ignorant.

Yes, he was given 2 yrs of asylum and was eventually ordered to be deported. What don't you understand about that?

temporary asylum doesn't grant permanent residency.

also, china's a big country. PRetty sure he could move and be a productive member of China at the hundreds of safe cities there. The population there isn't declining due to death and genocide. Gimme a break. It's a fucking excuse as a way to illegally stay in this country. The judge probably ruled against it and after 2 yrs of asymlum, was ordered to be deported.

If he wants, he can make China a better place. That or he has to wait like everybody else to get a green card

Manosphere1 posted...

PRetty sure he could move and be a productive member of China at the hundreds of safe cities there. The population there isn't declining due to death and genocide. Gimme a break. It's a fucking excuse as a way to illegally stay in this country.

He was being persecuted, troll. If he thought he could be safe by moving to another Chinese city, then don't you fucking think he would've?

Seriously, wtf is the matter with you trolls?
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"persecuted" so instead he should break the law to avoid it.

Gotta love your 10 yr old logic

Manosphere1 posted...

"persecuted" so instead he should break the law to avoid it.

Gotta love your 10 yr old logic

If someone breaks the speed limit in order to escape a T-1000, then yeah, I'm gonna fucking forgive him.
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