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Milkman5
06/14/18 9:01:21 AM
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https://www.polygon.com/e3/2018/6/13/17459358/super-smash-bros-ultimate-solid-snake-butt

Super Smash Bros. fans are upset about Solid Snakes butt


In Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Solid Snake was blessed with a voluptuous backside. This new rendition, while sporting Snakes skintight stealth suit, is severely lacking in booty. And longtime fans of Smash and Metal Gear alike are not here for it.


Its been pointed out that while Snakes butt size has been reduced, so has Zero Suit Samus breast size. Instead of unrealistically hanging from her chest like floating balloons, they actually resemble human breasts.


People are widely happier with Samuss redesign than with Snakes. It makes sense. In the Metroid games, Samus is usually in her heavy power suit and her new Smash design aligns more with her previous Zero Suit depictions.


https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/13/17458506/smash-bros-ultimate-snake-butt-nintendo-samus-e3

Smash Bros. Ultimate fans cant stand Snakes redesigned butt


Snake isnt the only one whos been quietly changed in Smash Bros. Ultimate. Metroid star Zero Suit Samus has also had a breast reduction for the Switch release. Her bosom used to jut out of her tight suit in older games, but its no longer as conspicuously gravity-defying. Fans are remarking on this tweak, too. But in a twist, they largely arent complaining about it; many people actually seem happy with the change.


what the f*** is this hivemind s***. They all write the same dumb articles I swear.
People here and people watching the stream both noted that they nerfed Samus's boobs and Snake's ass.
There were several topics complaining about her boobs. f***ing morons.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76705616?results=1#1

Even in polls, majority of the fans don't like the change.

Then they go on to say Snake is supposed to be a sexual character, but Samus is not, therefore it's wrong that she is sexualized and for some reason Snake should be...
then they talk about the male gaze etc

Two articles written by two different people and they are exactly the same.

Side Note:

https://www.polygon.com/2014/10/13/6957677/bayonetta-2-review-wii-u

Polygon gave bayonetta 2 a 7.5 solely because the main character was too attractive
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Milkman5
06/14/18 9:02:28 AM
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Switch Samus:
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Wii U Samus:
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Milkman5
06/14/18 9:02:50 AM
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I had to repost this because of the title (it was against the rules)
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Frolex
06/14/18 9:03:57 AM
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Murphiroth
06/14/18 9:04:35 AM
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Milkman5 posted...
I had to repost this


No, you really didn't.
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creativerealms
06/14/18 9:12:58 AM
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What about Christian watchdog groups? They are laughing that they get what they want and SJWs get the blame. The people who hate sexualized characters the most also hate SJWs more then you do.
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TheoryzC
06/14/18 9:17:55 AM
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Yea but who cares
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Milkman5
06/14/18 9:19:49 AM
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Highwind07 posted...
Lol at caring about boobs and ass in smash. Come on, they're Nintendo characters.

If you want TNA just play Dead or Alive or something.


The point is how delusional these journalists are

but I already said that in the original topic >_>
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Mr_Biscuit
06/14/18 9:20:37 AM
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As I said in the other topic

Samuss bust is actually probably about the same size, its just more realistically compressed rather than her looking like an inflatable sex doll. Shes very well-endowed.

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Milkman5
06/14/18 9:21:06 AM
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M_Live posted...
SJWs get blamed for everything lol. Apparently they're at stake now for when characters are both over- and under-sexualized. Do people even think or


I'm talking about the journalists, not the body parts being altered.

My original topic never even mentioned SJWs, I had to change the topic because what I said was unfair to that ideology or some shit
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creativerealms
06/14/18 9:22:43 AM
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Milkman5 posted...
M_Live posted...
SJWs get blamed for everything lol. Apparently they're at stake now for when characters are both over- and under-sexualized. Do people even think or


I'm talking about the journalists, not the body parts being altered.

My original topic never even mentioned SJWs, I had to change the topic because what I said was unfair to that ideology or some shit

Which you admitted in your topic was only a couple people and that you were exaggerating.
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Milkman5
06/14/18 9:26:16 AM
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creativerealms posted...

Which you admitted in your topic was only a couple people and that you were exaggerating.


The problem was never about the fairness, it was about the narrative. By changing to a group that the mods would concede with based on their own experiences, suddenly it's fair.

To me, I have every reason to not label these people as SJWs, but as something else, as I know many people who are of that group who say the exact same shit.
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Milkman5
06/14/18 9:27:24 AM
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also:
no mod here self-identifies as an SJW, I'm sure, but I bet many identify as the group from the previous topic.
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polopili
06/14/18 9:27:54 AM
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snake has Hank Hill butt now.
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PanzerElite
06/14/18 9:39:18 AM
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Male gaze is a stupid term. It's natural for men to want tolook at sexually attractive women. Why shame them for it?
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Milkman5
06/14/18 9:39:18 AM
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not really. That certain group have become one in the same with SJWs nowadays anyway
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The Great Muta 22
06/14/18 10:05:14 AM
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Delirious_Beard
06/14/18 8:53:10 PM
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Frolex posted...
milkman take your meds

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Panthera
06/14/18 8:58:07 PM
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PanzerElite posted...
Male gaze is a stupid term. It's natural for men to want tolook at sexually attractive women. Why shame them for it?


The term is not used to say there's anything wrong with enjoying how hot women look
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Wetterdew
06/16/18 1:29:35 AM
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Samus's boobs look ridiculous in the Wii U game. It was improved in the Ultimate game.

Snake's butt just looks ridiculous now. His legs are big and then there's just nothing above.

But try to spin it into something about SJWs, sure.
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Aloner
06/16/18 1:35:11 AM
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I'm still mad they censored Peach's panties. Brawl had full upskirts.
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Wetterdew
06/16/18 1:37:52 AM
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Aloner posted...
I'm still mad they censored Peach's panties. Brawl had full upskirts.

I'll agree on that--the voids look dumb as hell
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YourDrunkFather
06/16/18 1:39:32 AM
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Aloner posted...
I'm still mad they censored Peach's panties. Brawl had full upskirts.


This is definitely something a normal adult with a healthy sex life would think
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FightingGames
06/16/18 1:46:41 AM
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stop linking to polygon. they thrive on clickbait articles
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ForestLogic
06/16/18 1:56:13 AM
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Samus looked like a THOT in Smash Wii U.

I'm glad they toned her down into a more subtly sexual character again. Wish they would've eliminated the dumb cartoon jet-high-heels, but eh. What can ya do.
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Zack_Attackv1
06/16/18 1:58:38 AM
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Aloner
06/16/18 1:58:52 AM
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Anyway Polygon are confirmed hypocrites for this. If you take away sexy female features it's only fair to take away sexy male features too. There is no rational counterargument to that.

YourDrunkFather posted...
Aloner posted...
I'm still mad they censored Peach's panties. Brawl had full upskirts.


This is definitely something a normal adult with a healthy sex life would think

Goddamn normies.
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Esrac
06/16/18 2:04:09 AM
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PanzerElite posted...
Male gaze is a stupid term. It's natural for men to want tolook at sexually attractive women. Why shame them for it?


Male Gaze isn't that, exactly. As I understand it, it's a complaint that the camera in media assumes the gaze of a male audience. So, you get scenes that lingers on or pans over women in a way it doesn't typically do for men.

For example, the bouncing boobs in anime or in a movie when the camera slowly pans over a sexy women's body.

It is a thing that happens, but I don't buy that it's a problem.

In addition, there was nothing wrong with Samus' breasts in SSB4. They were fine. As a man married to a woman with an ample bosom, it does irk me when critics complain about big breasts being ridiculous.
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giantblimpN7
06/16/18 2:06:45 AM
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If Chill were here he would tell you to take your meds, Milkman.
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StanZarnack
06/16/18 2:07:30 AM
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social justice warriors barely even exist, far right just wants to hate on shit like usual.
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MARKINGRAM22
06/16/18 2:08:21 AM
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creativerealms posted...
What about Christian watchdog groups? They are laughing that they get what they want and SJWs get the blame. The people who hate sexualized characters the most also hate SJWs more then you do.


Is there a post from a Christian watchdog group? Are we going to pretend they have any leverage in media still?
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Aloner
06/16/18 2:09:00 AM
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Esrac posted...
Male Gaze isn't that, exactly. As I understand it, it's a complaint that the camera in media assumes the gaze of a male audience. So, you get scenes that lingers on or pans over women in a way it doesn't typically do for men.

For example, the bouncing boobs in anime or in a movie when the camera slowly pans over a sexy women's body.

Imo that's legit issue. Feels cringey and straight female viewers probably don't enjoy it much.

But Smash is a game with no cutscenes. So there is no male gaze. Their complaint is irrelevant here.
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MARKINGRAM22
06/16/18 2:09:24 AM
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Esrac posted...
PanzerElite posted...
Male gaze is a stupid term. It's natural for men to want tolook at sexually attractive women. Why shame them for it?


Male Gaze isn't that, exactly. As I understand it, it's a complaint that the camera in media assumes the gaze of a male audience. So, you get scenes that lingers on or pans over women in a way it doesn't typically do for men.

For example, the bouncing boobs in anime or in a movie when the camera slowly pans over a sexy women's body.

It is a thing that happens, but I don't buy that it's a problem.

In addition, there was nothing wrong with Samus' breasts in SSB4. They were fine. As a man married to a woman with an ample bosom, it does irk me when critics complain about big breasts being ridiculous.


Of course something would be filmed from a male perspective if it was trying to attract a male audience.
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ForestLogic
06/16/18 2:10:31 AM
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StanZarnack posted...
social justice warriors barely even exist, far right just wants to hate on shit like usual.


Do you live under a fucking rock?
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MARKINGRAM22
06/16/18 2:12:32 AM
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ForestLogic posted...
StanZarnack posted...
social justice warriors barely even exist, far right just wants to hate on shit like usual.


Do you live under a fucking rock?


Dude he doesnt live under a 2 ton object, he isnt his moms boyfriend
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Esrac
06/16/18 2:31:47 AM
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Aloner posted...
Esrac posted...
Male Gaze isn't that, exactly. As I understand it, it's a complaint that the camera in media assumes the gaze of a male audience. So, you get scenes that lingers on or pans over women in a way it doesn't typically do for men.

For example, the bouncing boobs in anime or in a movie when the camera slowly pans over a sexy women's body.

Imo that's legit issue. Feels cringey and straight female viewers probably don't enjoy it much.

But Smash is a game with no cutscenes. So there is no male gaze. Their complaint is irrelevant here.


I don't think it's an important issue. If a woman viewer is uncomfortable with the way a scene is handled, it's probably not for her. But I would also admit that I don't believe most women viewers have a problem with it, if they even notice it without it being pointed out to them.
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NeonOctopus
06/16/18 4:23:22 PM
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TheoryzC posted...
Yea but who cares

I do! Samus's titties are important!
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EverDownward
06/16/18 4:25:09 PM
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Not sure why they reduced her bust size
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NeonOctopus
06/16/18 4:28:41 PM
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EverDownward posted...
Not sure why they reduced her bust size

Same. Hopefully all of us uniting together and bitching will change that!
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Shin Kudo
06/17/18 2:08:42 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
TheoryzC posted...
Yea but who cares

I do! Samus's titties are important!

Agreed
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KamenRiderBlade
06/17/18 2:11:20 PM
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Why do people forget about Ganondorf?

He was removed of his bulge, now he's a friggin Ken Doll.

He was Hung like a Demon, but now they had to remove his Demon-ness.
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RoboLaserGandhi
06/17/18 2:46:48 PM
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Samus's breast reduction makes sense since she does acrobatic combat and would definitely wear a breast compressing sports bra underneath.

Snake's ass reduction makes the opposite of sense. He physically could not have that flat of an ass with how muscular his thighs are.
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Skye Reynolds
06/17/18 2:47:59 PM
#48:


Milkman5 posted...
Its been pointed out that while Snakes butt size has been reduced, so has Zero Suit Samus breast size. Instead of unrealistically hanging from her chest like floating balloons, they actually resemble human breasts.


I want this person's head on a pike.

Now.
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Cookie Bag
06/18/18 7:48:04 PM
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So the chozo made samus' bust and ass to decrease in size to the presence of ridley? that makes like an amazing threat detector.

Skye Reynolds posted...
Milkman5 posted...
Its been pointed out that while Snakes butt size has been reduced, so has Zero Suit Samus breast size. Instead of unrealistically hanging from her chest like floating balloons, they actually resemble human breasts.


I want this person's head on a pike.

Now.

Yeah this person is a fucking moron.
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ClockworkHare
06/20/18 5:17:53 AM
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What about Captain Falcon?

His uniform was basically painted on in Melee and Brawl...
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