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LIsJustice
06/12/18 1:48:11 PM
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and with whom?
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ThyCorndog
06/12/18 1:50:10 PM
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Korea vs Korea
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Pillowpantz
06/12/18 1:50:59 PM
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Were_Wyrm
06/12/18 1:51:42 PM
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Best Korea vs Other Korea
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_BlueMonk
06/12/18 1:53:12 PM
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korea used to be korea. then in the late 1800s/early 1900s, japan came in and took it over.

after world war 2, Korea was "liberated" by allied forces, so they needed a government.

in the south, american influence said that they want democracy and captialism, and in the north, chinese influence said socialism/communism.

they couldn't come to terms with who should be in control, so they said fuck it, 2 koreas then.
then in the mid 50s, north korea said fuck this noise, we want it all and invaded south korea. this led to a back and forth war, with china and america supporting their respective sides with troops, etc.

after 5-7? years they called off the fighting, but the war is still in effect. the korean war never ended, they're just not trying to actively invade and kill each other.
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FlyingForever
06/12/18 1:53:15 PM
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Were_Wyrm posted...
Best Korea vs Other Korea


So Japan vs Korea got it
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Deganawidah
06/12/18 5:10:09 PM
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The simple answer is North Korea and South Korea are at war with one another, but other parties have varied involvement.

The Korean War was between South Korea and the United Nations (including the United States) on one side and North Korea and China on the other. It was a war between the two states claiming rule over the Korean peninsula (effectively a civil war) but quickly came to involve the UN and China. Chinese involvement was formally not as the state itself but as a Chinese volunteer force and so the People's Republic of China is not formally at war with South Korea, the United States, or any other UN members who participated.

Japanese influence in Korea gradually increased in the late 19th century (formally beginning with the Treaty of Kanghwa in 1876) and, through two wars (First Sino-Japanese War, 1894-1895, and Russo-Japanese War, 1904-1905) and smaller disturbances and several more treaties, the Japanese entrenched their own influence and pushed out other foreign influence in Korea. Japan made Korea protectorate (still an independent country formally but with Japan in charge of defense and foreign relations) in 1905 and then fully annexed Korea in 1910.

Throughout the period of Japanese colonial rule (1910-1945) many Koreans were influenced by ideas and ideologies such as self-determination (especially from Woodrow Wilson's Fourteen Points speech in 1919), democracy, socialism, and communism. This was especially true within the independence movement. Many members initially sought and accepted any compatible ideology and source of foreign support, but factionalism arose in the early 1920s and there was a schism in the Korean independence movement between those who favored Western (i.e. Euro-American) ideas and support and those who favored Soviet/Communist support.

When Japan surrendered to the Allies at the end of World War II in 1945, Korea was liberated from Japanese rule, but the United States and Soviet Union occupied Korea, with the U.S. occupying south of the 38th parallel and the Soviets north of the 38th parallel. The original plan was to hold nationwide elections under UN supervision and establish a single Korean government. However, the sides did not agree on the details and their influence exacerbated the existing political and ideological factionalism. Moderates lost their influence in both occupation and zones and governments strongly aligned with the occupier's ideas and goals were put into place. They became formally established states in 1948 and each claimed to be the sole legitimate government of Korea as Soviet and U.S. forces left.

Border skirmishes took place along the 38th parallel for about two years until North Korea launched an invasion of the South on June 25, 1950. The United Nations (minus the Soviet Union, China, and some other Communist bloc powers) intervened on behalf of South Korea. China later entered the war on the side of North Korea. The Soviets never officially entered the war though they did provide some support, but did not put troops on the ground in Korea.

Fighting continued until July 1953, when the two sides signed an armistice (cease fire) agreement. There is no peace treaty yet. The two Koreas are formally at war with one another and North Korea considers itself at war with the United States as well. While South Korea officially regards North Korea as an "anti-state organization" in control of part of the country, North Korea regards South Korea as a puppet state of the United States and so always considers the United States a necessary party in any process toward resolving the conflict.
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Zikten
06/12/18 5:11:03 PM
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both. Korea used to be one nation. then they split in a civil war. and the war technically is still going on, at least in the minds of the North Koreans. but Trump might get them to finally settle down
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DarkTransient
06/12/18 5:11:32 PM
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_BlueMonk posted...
and in the north, chinese influence said socialism/communism.


Russia (or more accurately, the Soviet Union) had just as much, if not more, to do with that.
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Deganawidah
06/12/18 5:34:27 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
_BlueMonk posted...
and in the north, chinese influence said socialism/communism.


Russia (or more accurately, the Soviet Union) had just as much, if not more, to do with that.


Right! The Soviets had far more to do with what happened in North Korea from 1945 to 1950. The Soviet military occupied the North from 1945-48 and oversaw the establishment of a new government. While many Korean communists came back from China, many having fought alongside Chinese Communists during World War II, those affiliated the Kim Il Sung's "Partisan" faction, which was directly supported by Moscow, held more power (which only grew in the post-Korean War years as Kim Il Sung gradually purged out most of the other factions). There was definitely some influence from the Chinese Communists, but it was informal and far less than that of the Soviets in terms of setting up the North Korean regime and bolstering it. The Chinese had more involvement in actual fighting of the Korean War.
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