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Lathissamus 06/11/18 4:02:22 AM #51:	spikethedevil posted... snowman9267 posted... I think this is just some low hanging fruit for contrarians to pick at because lots of people like CDPR a lot. If CDPR gave a release date and the game was buggy or the story seemed rushed on release, people would be saying that they've fallen off and can't make a good game anymore or all they care about is money, etc. If they say that it'll be ready when it's ready, then you get apes making topics like this. Witcher 3 was a broken mess at launch and every new patch broke something else. Really? I bought it launch day and had a completely different impression of it. --- https://imgur.com/olOXz6h https://imgur.com/kaFczn3 <cite>Lathissamus posted [p:902955655] in Oh look, C... [t:76695424]...</cite> <quote><cite>spikethedevil posted...</cite> <quote><cite>snowman9267 posted...</cite> <quote>I think this is just some low hanging fruit for contrarians to pick at because lots of people like CDPR a lot. If CDPR gave a release date and the game was buggy or the story seemed rushed on release, people would be saying that they've fallen off and can't make a good game anymore or all they care about is money, etc. If they say that it'll be ready when it's ready, then you get apes making topics like this.</quote> Witcher 3 was a broken mess at launch and every new patch broke something else.</quote> Really? I bought it launch day and had a completely different impression of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 06/11/18 4:03:35 AM #52:	They've always been open that the game was going to be a long way away. Witcher 3 was their priority until 2016. This isn't a development he'll situation. They released the teaser to see how people would react to the announcement. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:902955682] in Oh look, C... [t:76695424]...</cite> <quote>They've always been open that the game was going to be a long way away. Witcher 3 was their priority until 2016. This isn't a development he'll situation. They released the teaser to see how people would react to the announcement.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 06/11/18 4:04:06 AM #53:	Many people had very bad bugs and their was a main quest bug as well that soft locked you though thankfully I disn't get that one. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:902955694] in Oh look, C... [t:76695424]...</cite> <quote>Many people had very bad bugs and their was a main quest bug as well that soft locked you though thankfully I disn't get that one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
snowman9267 06/11/18 4:15:27 AM #54:	Witcher 3 is a massive game and games like it will always have issues just due to the size and the openness of what you can do in it. They put out patches quickly and communicated with the players on their forums, what else are they supposed to do in the early months of a game release? --- plays the Grismal flute <cite>snowman9267 posted [p:902955943] in Oh look, C... [t:76695424]...</cite> <quote>Witcher 3 is a massive game and games like it will always have issues just due to the size and the openness of what you can do in it. They put out patches quickly and communicated with the players on their forums, what else are they supposed to do in the early months of a game release?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Patchwork 06/11/18 4:16:57 AM #55:	Lathissamus posted... spikethedevil posted... snowman9267 posted... I think this is just some low hanging fruit for contrarians to pick at because lots of people like CDPR a lot. If CDPR gave a release date and the game was buggy or the story seemed rushed on release, people would be saying that they've fallen off and can't make a good game anymore or all they care about is money, etc. If they say that it'll be ready when it's ready, then you get apes making topics like this. Witcher 3 was a broken mess at launch and every new patch broke something else. Really? I bought it launch day and had a completely different impression of it. Same here. Launch purchase, and never had any jarring issues. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. <cite>Patchwork posted [p:902955988] in Oh look, C... [t:76695424]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lathissamus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>spikethedevil posted...</cite> <quote><cite>snowman9267 posted...</cite> <quote>I think this is just some low hanging fruit for contrarians to pick at because lots of people like CDPR a lot. If CDPR gave a release date and the game was buggy or the story seemed rushed on release, people would be saying that they've fallen off and can't make a good game anymore or all they care about is money, etc. If they say that it'll be ready when it's ready, then you get apes making topics like this.</quote> Witcher 3 was a broken mess at launch and every new patch broke something else.</quote> Really? I bought it launch day and had a completely different impression of it.</quote> Same here. Launch purchase, and never had any jarring issues.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 06/11/18 4:27:50 AM #56:	When you start going over a couple years of development, the project is absolutely doomed. Even if it turns out to be great, gets rave reviews, and sells out on release day, it can usually never overcome the years of development costs and years of advertising, not to mention the risk of technology being outpaced or a new generation of systems being released. Just look at Sleeping Dogs, or Duke Nukem Forever, or Daikatana, or pretty much any vaporware. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:902956230] in Oh look, C... [t:76695424]...</cite> <quote>When you start going over a couple years of development, the project is absolutely doomed. Even if it turns out to be great, gets rave reviews, and sells out on release day, it can usually never overcome the years of development costs and years of advertising, not to mention the risk of technology being outpaced or a new generation of systems being released. Just look at Sleeping Dogs, or Duke Nukem Forever, or Daikatana, or pretty much any vaporware.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 06/11/18 4:29:58 AM #57:	snowman9267 posted... Witcher 3 is a massive game and games like it will always have issues just due to the size and the openness of what you can do in it. They put out patches quickly and communicated with the players on their forums, what else are they supposed to do in the early months of a game release? The problem was that every new patch broke something else. At the start they were more interested in fixing harmless money exploits than actuall bugs and a DLC quest stayed broken for ages. Patchwork posted... Lathissamus posted... spikethedevil posted... snowman9267 posted... I think this is just some low hanging fruit for contrarians to pick at because lots of people like CDPR a lot. If CDPR gave a release date and the game was buggy or the story seemed rushed on release, people would be saying that they've fallen off and can't make a good game anymore or all they care about is money, etc. If they say that it'll be ready when it's ready, then you get apes making topics like this. Witcher 3 was a broken mess at launch and every new patch broke something else. Really? I bought it launch day and had a completely different impression of it. Same here. Launch purchase, and never had any jarring issues. Your experience does not = everyone elses. I had a good few bugs but thankfully nothing game breakimg but other peoplr were not so lucky. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:902956278] in Oh look, C... [t:76695424]...</cite> <quote><cite>snowman9267 posted...</cite> <quote>Witcher 3 is a massive game and games like it will always have issues just due to the size and the openness of what you can do in it. They put out patches quickly and communicated with the players on their forums, what else are they supposed to do in the early months of a game release?</quote> The problem was that every new patch broke something else. At the start they were more interested in fixing harmless money exploits than actuall bugs and a DLC quest stayed broken for ages. <cite>Patchwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lathissamus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>spikethedevil posted...</cite> <quote><cite>snowman9267 posted...</cite> <quote>I think this is just some low hanging fruit for contrarians to pick at because lots of people like CDPR a lot. If CDPR gave a release date and the game was buggy or the story seemed rushed on release, people would be saying that they've fallen off and can't make a good game anymore or all they care about is money, etc. If they say that it'll be ready when it's ready, then you get apes making topics like this.</quote> Witcher 3 was a broken mess at launch and every new patch broke something else.</quote> Really? I bought it launch day and had a completely different impression of it.</quote> Same here. Launch purchase, and never had any jarring issues.</quote> Your experience does not = everyone elses. I had a good few bugs but thankfully nothing game breakimg but other peoplr were not so lucky.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pillowpantz 06/11/18 7:26:05 AM #58:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB5ZXxHPojc" data-time=" --- https://youtu.be/o8sXa3IdrOU https://youtu.be/TO45esybdYg https://youtu.be/hcrjb5dzhvw http://archive.is/Zp6HT <cite>Pillowpantz posted [p:902959986] in Oh look, C... [t:76695424]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB5ZXxHPojc" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 06/11/18 7:30:54 AM #59:	Dash_Harber posted... When you start going over a couple years of development Here's a man who clearly knows how long it takes to make a video game. Protip: A game announcement does not mean that development has begun. Breath of the Wild was in development for two years before it was announced at E3 2014. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:902960094] in Oh look, C... [t:76695424]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>When you start going over a couple years of development</quote> Here's a man who clearly knows how long it takes to make a video game. Protip: A game announcement does not mean that development has begun. Breath of the Wild was in development for two years before it was announced at E3 2014.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 06/11/18 7:33:29 AM #60:	CyricZ posted... Dash_Harber posted... When you start going over a couple years of development Here's a man who clearly knows how long it takes to make a video game. Protip: A game announcement does not mean that development has begun. Breath of the Wild was in development for two years before it was announced at E3 2014. Calm the hell down, I'm just pointing out that the longer a game sits in development hell (whether the game is actually being built or they are just paying to advertise it/design it/concept art/etc), the more it's going to cost and the less room there is for profit. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:902960170] in Oh look, C... [t:76695424]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>When you start going over a couple years of development</quote> Here's a man who clearly knows how long it takes to make a video game. Protip: A game announcement does not mean that development has begun. Breath of the Wild was in development for two years before it was announced at E3 2014.</quote> Calm the hell down, I'm just pointing out that the longer a game sits in development hell (whether the game is actually being built or they are just paying to advertise it/design it/concept art/etc), the more it's going to cost and the less room there is for profit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 06/11/18 7:41:36 AM #61:	I don't think you know what "development hell" means. "Actually being built" is just "development", pure and simple. The "hell" part is only added when things happen like team restructuring, not hitting milestones, scrapping elements of the game, moving to a new platform or engine, and so forth. Back to my Breath of the Wild analogy, Miyamoto stated back in 2016 that it had to move 2 million copies to make a profit. It has moved 4.7 million as of last October, justifying its total five year development time. Yes, longer development times means a greater profit needs to be turned, but focusing on the developer in question, CDPR made a profit off of Witcher 3. There's little reason to worry that this long development time will have a negative effect on the company. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:902960371] in Oh look, C... [t:76695424]...</cite> <quote>I don't think you know what "development hell" means. "Actually being built" is just "development", pure and simple. The "hell" part is only added when things happen like team restructuring, not hitting milestones, scrapping elements of the game, moving to a new platform or engine, and so forth. Back to my Breath of the Wild analogy, Miyamoto stated back in 2016 that it had to move 2 million copies to make a profit. It has moved 4.7 million as of last October, justifying its total five year development time. Yes, longer development times means a greater profit needs to be turned, but focusing on the developer in question, CDPR made a profit off of Witcher 3. There's little reason to worry that this long development time will have a negative effect on the company.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 06/11/18 7:42:43 AM #62:	I don't care I'm hyped. My hype was high, then it fell when it appeared we'd have a fixed protagonist that looked/sounded very meh, then it went back up when I saw CDPR's message about what the game will have and character creation. --- https://imgur.com/6VeX04D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvMeQpu9-sg <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:902960404] in Oh look, C... [t:76695424]...</cite> <quote>I don't care I'm hyped. My hype was high, then it fell when it appeared we'd have a fixed protagonist that looked/sounded very meh, then it went back up when I saw CDPR's message about what the game will have and character creation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pogo_Marimo 06/11/18 10:11:11 AM #63:	The_Scarecrow posted... No, TC is partially right. If we're going to give companies like Square Enix shit for taking forever to release a game, then we need to give everyone shit for taking forever to release a game. No, SE's rep has been shit for the last 5 years and there were a myriad of rumors regarding the stalled and flawed development of FFXV--And the FFVII remake. There was no reason to cut them slack or assume the outcome would be worth the wait. Which is the exact opposite of CDPR. --- // BEAUTY IS NOT LOVE - LOVE IS NOT MUSIC - MUSIC IS THE BEST - WISDOM IS THE DOMAIN OF THE WIZ--WHICH IS EXTINCT // http://www.last.fm/user/Pogo92 <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:902965900] in Oh look, C... [t:76695424]...</cite> <quote><cite>The_Scarecrow posted...</cite> <quote>No, TC is partially right. If we're going to give companies like Square Enix shit for taking forever to release a game, then we need to give everyone shit for taking forever to release a game.</quote> No, SE's rep has been shit for the last 5 years and there were a myriad of rumors regarding the stalled and flawed development of FFXV--And the FFVII remake. There was no reason to cut them slack or assume the outcome would be worth the wait. Which is the exact opposite of CDPR.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LookANinja 06/11/18 9:21:06 PM #65:	I mean hasn't CD Project Red been super transparent about all this? They "announced" Cyberpunk 2077 when Witcher wasn't even done yet, and said they're not gonna work on it until all the DLC was done and they're saying now that they don't know how long it's gonna be yet, it could be a while. --- http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/56/picturesig.jpg https://imgur.com/b8HCz <cite>LookANinja posted [p:903013701] in Oh look, C... [t:76695424]...</cite> <quote>I mean hasn't CD Project Red been super transparent about all this? They "announced" Cyberpunk 2077 when Witcher wasn't even done yet, and said they're not gonna work on it until all the DLC was done and they're saying now that they don't know how long it's gonna be yet, it could be a while.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grischnak 06/12/18 1:49:35 AM #66:	LookANinja posted... I mean hasn't CD Project Red been super transparent about all this? They "announced" Cyberpunk 2077 when Witcher wasn't even done yet, and said they're not gonna work on it until all the DLC was done and they're saying now that they don't know how long it's gonna be yet, it could be a while. Indeed. 2077 entered *pre-production* in 2016. There's really no reason to think it's in any sort of "development hell". <cite>Grischnak posted [p:903038817] in Oh look, C... [t:76695424]...</cite> <quote><cite>LookANinja posted...</cite> <quote>I mean hasn't CD Project Red been super transparent about all this? They "announced" Cyberpunk 2077 when Witcher wasn't even done yet, and said they're not gonna work on it until all the DLC was done and they're saying now that they don't know how long it's gonna be yet, it could be a while.</quote> Indeed. 2077 entered pre-production in 2016. There's really no reason to think it's in any sort of "development hell".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lathissamus 06/12/18 1:37:29 PM #67:	Conflict posted... Lathissamus posted... sylverlolol posted... Lathissamus posted... sylverlolol posted... As silly as this topic is... Banana_Cyanide posted... When Square Enix takes more than 6 years to release a game = worse game studio ever When CDPR does it = "They're not your bitch" He's not wrong here...especially when it comes to users on this forum. Not even the same thing. CP2077 is going to be great whereas FFXV was just decent after 10 years. Also, Square Enix has plenty of other reasons for the scrutiny they receive. Going to be great based on...what? The zero gameplay we've seen so far? Square made great games once upon a time. Wipe the brown off your nose. I'm quite interested in this game myself but it's just a bit ridiculous that it was announced so long ago and all we're getting years later is a cutscene trailer. You're only as good as your last game, so, yeah, it's not an unfounded prediction. How about you take the stick out of your ass? lol "It's gonna be a great game because their last game was great" Nobody tell this guy about Golden Sun: Dark Dawn Yes, let me view their future releases with harsh cynicism, that's sure to be more fun than being excited for it. --- https://imgur.com/olOXz6h https://imgur.com/kaFczn3 <cite>Lathissamus posted [p:903077168] in Oh look, C... [t:76695424]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lathissamus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sylverlolol posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lathissamus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sylverlolol posted...</cite> <quote>As silly as this topic is... <cite>Banana_Cyanide posted...</cite> <quote>When Square Enix takes more than 6 years to release a game = worse game studio ever When CDPR does it = "They're not your bitch"</quote> He's not wrong here...especially when it comes to users on this forum.</quote> Not even the same thing. CP2077 is going to be great whereas FFXV was just decent after 10 years. Also, Square Enix has plenty of other reasons for the scrutiny they receive.</quote> Going to be great based on...what? The zero gameplay we've seen so far? Square made great games once upon a time. Wipe the brown off your nose. I'm quite interested in this game myself but it's just a bit ridiculous that it was announced so long ago and all we're getting years later is a cutscene trailer.</quote> You're only as good as your last game, so, yeah, it's not an unfounded prediction. How about you take the stick out of your ass?</quote> lol "It's gonna be a great game because their last game was great" Nobody tell this guy about Golden Sun: Dark Dawn</quote> Yes, let me view their future releases with harsh cynicism, that's sure to be more fun than being excited for it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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