Current Events > IYO: Should swatting be regarded as a criminal act?

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Eevee-Trainer 06/05/18 3:03:02 PM #1:	Topic. - Results (17 votes) Yes, and the accused be tried for attempted murder. 76.47% (13 votes) 13 Yes, but not tried as harshly as the previous (a fine, community service, paying for what it cost to mobilize, etc.) 23.53% (4 votes) 4 Yes, but treat it even MORE harshly than attempted murder 0% (0 votes) 0 No, swatting should not be regardless as a criminal act. 0% (0 votes) 0 Undecided 0% (0 votes) 0 Mostly just curious. Choices are a little broad I'll admit but eh. --- See me on Discord! ^.^ Eevee's Mystery Dungeon: https://discord.gg/V7hzcXd <cite>Eevee-Trainer posted [p:902598563] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote> Topic. - Results (17 votes) Yes, and the accused be tried for attempted murder. 76.47% (13 votes) 13 Yes, but not tried as harshly as the previous (a fine, community service, paying for what it cost to mobilize, etc.) 23.53% (4 votes) 4 Yes, but treat it even MORE harshly than attempted murder 0% (0 votes) 0 No, swatting should not be regardless as a criminal act. 0% (0 votes) 0 Undecided 0% (0 votes) 0 Mostly just curious. Choices are a little broad I'll admit but eh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vicious_Dios 06/05/18 3:03:40 PM #2:	Yes, and for attempted murder. --- S / K / Y / N / E Twitch/YouTube/GT: *Adzeta* <cite>Vicious_Dios posted [p:902598596] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote>Yes, and for attempted murder.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 06/05/18 3:06:08 PM #3:	Vicious_Dios posted... Yes, and for attempted murder. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:902598726] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vicious_Dios posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, and for attempted murder.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 06/05/18 3:07:24 PM #4:	Solar_Crimson posted... Vicious_Dios posted... Yes, and for attempted murder. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:902598788] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vicious_Dios posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, and for attempted murder.</quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 06/05/18 3:09:17 PM #5:	LightHawKnight posted... Solar_Crimson posted... Vicious_Dios posted... Yes, and for attempted murder. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:902598912] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vicious_Dios posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, and for attempted murder.</quote></quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eevee-Trainer 06/05/18 3:09:35 PM #6:	Tfw you notice several grammatical errors in the poll choices facedesk --- See me on Discord! ^.^ Eevee's Mystery Dungeon: https://discord.gg/V7hzcXd <cite>Eevee-Trainer posted [p:902598933] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote>Tfw you notice several grammatical errors in the poll choices facedesk</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yusiko 06/05/18 3:16:51 PM #7:	It is attempted murder And so it should be treated as such --- yusketeer <cite>yusiko posted [p:902599337] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote>It is attempted murder And so it should be treated as such</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperExcitebike 06/05/18 3:34:12 PM #8:	I just figured swatting was slang for murder. Pretty sure I've seen it used by rappers --- SMU Mustangs/Jayhawks/Texans/Rockets/Astros http://followmy.tv/u/Excitebike <cite>SuperExcitebike posted [p:902600253] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote>I just figured swatting was slang for murder. Pretty sure I've seen it used by rappers</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
solosnake 06/05/18 3:37:35 PM #9:	It is isnt it? Anyway I would also like to see some police reform, no need to be so trigger happy with swat teams and such --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade https://imgur.com/MYYEIx5 https://imgur.com/WGE12ef <cite>solosnake posted [p:902600417] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote>It is isnt it? Anyway I would also like to see some police reform, no need to be so trigger happy with swat teams and such</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 06/05/18 3:37:40 PM #10:	What if its like a 7 year old who does the swatting because some guy trolled his minecraft server --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:902600424] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote>What if its like a 7 year old who does the swatting because some guy trolled his minecraft server</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chill02 06/05/18 3:38:16 PM #11:	Should be a felony at least --- Blow your trumpets, Gabriel. <cite>chill02 posted [p:902600456] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote>Should be a felony at least</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 06/05/18 3:39:07 PM #12:	Glad to see the top option winning. There's not much of a debate in my mind. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:902600502] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote>Glad to see the top option winning. There's not much of a debate in my mind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Serious Cat 06/05/18 3:42:58 PM #13:	Rika_Furude posted... What if its like a 7 year old who does the swatting because some guy trolled his minecraft server Then it should be handled accordingly. --- I are Serious Cat This is serious thread <cite>Serious Cat posted [p:902600713] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>What if its like a 7 year old who does the swatting because some guy trolled his minecraft server</quote> Then it should be handled accordingly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 06/05/18 3:44:04 PM #14:	K181 posted... LightHawKnight posted... Solar_Crimson posted... Vicious_Dios posted... Yes, and for attempted murder. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:902600778] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote><cite>K181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vicious_Dios posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, and for attempted murder.</quote></quote></quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cobra1010 06/05/18 3:47:36 PM #15:	So whats the current law and punishment on swatting? The people who do it should definitely be charged for attempted murder. And it should be more serious because they are using the police to do it too. Should be 50-60 years in jail with no parole. When they get out they will be old and with no family to bury them when they die. --- GG Riot - https://imgur.com/PinGPhR https://imgur.com/Hs8Y1vQ <cite>Cobra1010 posted [p:902600946] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote>So whats the current law and punishment on swatting? The people who do it should definitely be charged for attempted murder. And it should be more serious because they are using the police to do it too. Should be 50-60 years in jail with no parole. When they get out they will be old and with no family to bury them when they die.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Laserion 06/05/18 4:04:51 PM #16:	So, is "swatting" calling the police with some fake info, to get the S.W.A.T to bust up someone else's door and take them? --- There is no "would of", "should of" or "could of". There is "would've", "should've" and "could've". <cite>Laserion posted [p:902601880] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote>So, is "swatting" calling the police with some fake info, to get the S.W.A.T to bust up someone else's door and take them?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vtriggering 06/05/18 4:08:21 PM #17:	Pretty sure it already is a criminal act. --- https://imgur.com/Ocr0o9m <cite>Vtriggering posted [p:902602071] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote>Pretty sure it already is a criminal act.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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snake_5036 06/05/18 4:13:36 PM #19:	Laserion posted... So, is "swatting" calling the police with some fake info, to get the S.W.A.T to bust up someone else's door and take them? Yes. People usually do it to popular streamers, though it has expanded outside of that area. --- You felt your sins weighing down on your neck. <cite>snake_5036 posted [p:902602398] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote><cite>Laserion posted...</cite> <quote>So, is "swatting" calling the police with some fake info, to get the S.W.A.T to bust up someone else's door and take them?</quote> Yes. People usually do it to popular streamers, though it has expanded outside of that area.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 06/05/18 4:41:42 PM #20:	Should be a criminal act and have harsh penalties, people have died due to swatting, innocent people who had no idea what was going on other then the swat team busting down their door reasy to kill. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:902604002] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote>Should be a criminal act and have harsh penalties, people have died due to swatting, innocent people who had no idea what was going on other then the swat team busting down their door reasy to kill.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 06/05/18 4:43:44 PM #21:	Funkydog posted... K181 posted... LightHawKnight posted... Solar_Crimson posted... Vicious_Dios posted... Yes, and for attempted murder. --- https://imgur.com/vDci4hD <cite>Ivynn posted [p:902604100] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>K181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vicious_Dios posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, and for attempted murder.</quote></quote></quote></quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 06/05/18 5:08:35 PM #22:	Yeah, swatting is really nasty. Not only is it wasting the time of law enforcement in a huge(and expensive way) and causing them to doubt reports of swat-worthy activity, it inevitably results in property damage and serious trauma for the victim. Potentially including serious physical, mental, and/or emotional harm or even death. It should be treated as a felony, and a swatting resulting in death or trauma treated as similarly severe to the relevant crime(i.e. assault, attempted murder or even straight-up murder, as relevant). <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:902605542] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, swatting is really nasty. Not only is it wasting the time of law enforcement in a huge(and expensive way) and causing them to doubt reports of swat-worthy activity, it inevitably results in property damage and serious trauma for the victim. Potentially including serious physical, mental, and/or emotional harm or even death. It should be treated as a felony, and a swatting resulting in death or trauma treated as similarly severe to the relevant crime(i.e. assault, attempted murder or even straight-up murder, as relevant).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FursonaNonGrata 06/05/18 5:10:18 PM #23:	Not to mention SWAT teams seem really good at randomly killing dogs that live in the houses they raid. <cite>FursonaNonGrata posted [p:902605633] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote>Not to mention SWAT teams seem really good at randomly killing dogs that live in the houses they raid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 06/05/18 5:12:42 PM #24:	Attempted murder seems harsh as a cut and dry thing. But I have no issue with it being a felony with possible jail time and/or a significant fine. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:902605786] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote>Attempted murder seems harsh as a cut and dry thing. But I have no issue with it being a felony with possible jail time and/or a significant fine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 06/06/18 1:01:24 AM #25:	I Like Toast posted... Attempted murder seems harsh as a cut and dry thing. But I have no issue with it being a felony with possible jail time and/or a significant fine. Its like driving a car at someone and hoping they dodge out of the way. You get a swat team sent to an address and hope they (or hope they dont) act in such a way that results in them not getting shot Of course its attempted murder --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:902629787] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote> Attempted murder seems harsh as a cut and dry thing. But I have no issue with it being a felony with possible jail time and/or a significant fine.</quote> Its like driving a car at someone and hoping they dodge out of the way. You get a swat team sent to an address and hope they (or hope they dont) act in such a way that results in them not getting shot Of course its attempted murder</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XxKrazyChaosxX 06/06/18 1:04:11 AM #26:	Whatever happened with that guy who got that other guy killed doing that last year? --- "I woke up at four am by accident in time for the paper to be delivered. Guess what? It's not a kid on a bike, it's a man in a car." - Kevin Malone <cite>XxKrazyChaosxX posted [p:902629883] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote>Whatever happened with that guy who got that other guy killed doing that last year?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 06/06/18 1:53:05 AM #27:	911 abuse is already a crime. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:902631397] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote>911 abuse is already a crime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sphyx 06/06/18 2:09:35 AM #28:	Some sort of charge with a harsh penalty, i'd be fine with. But calling it attempted murder without proof that a death was the intended consequence is utter bullshit. --- You're so vain, You probably think this sig is about you. <cite>Sphyx posted [p:902631897] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote>Some sort of charge with a harsh penalty, i'd be fine with. But calling it attempted murder without proof that a death was the intended consequence is utter bullshit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Itachi157 06/06/18 2:11:56 AM #29:	Vicious_Dios posted... Yes, and for attempted murder. <cite>Itachi157 posted [p:902631971] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vicious_Dios posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, and for attempted murder.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThatMuttGuy 06/06/18 2:12:20 AM #30:	Sphyx posted... Some sort of charge with a harsh penalty, i'd be fine with. But calling it attempted murder without proof that a death was the intended consequence is utter bullshit. So this is a post <cite>ThatMuttGuy posted [p:902631981] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sphyx posted...</cite> <quote>Some sort of charge with a harsh penalty, i'd be fine with. But calling it attempted murder without proof that a death was the intended consequence is utter bullshit.</quote> So this is a post</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Airhammy 06/06/18 2:20:24 AM #31:	XxKrazyChaosxX posted... Whatever happened with that guy who got that other guy killed doing that last year? From what I'm seeing he got jailed for involuntary manslaughter. A couple of months ago there was a glitch that allowed inmates in his area to go online and he returned to Twitter to call himself an 'eGod" and threatened to swat again. He's scheduled to appear in court again later this month. No official sentence has been made. --- http://air-hammer.deviantart.com/ <cite>Airhammy posted [p:902632205] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote><cite>XxKrazyChaosxX posted...</cite> <quote>Whatever happened with that guy who got that other guy killed doing that last year?</quote> From what I'm seeing he got jailed for involuntary manslaughter. A couple of months ago there was a glitch that allowed inmates in his area to go online and he returned to Twitter to call himself an 'eGod" and threatened to swat again. He's scheduled to appear in court again later this month. No official sentence has been made.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 06/06/18 2:26:23 AM #32:	Sphyx posted... Some sort of charge with a harsh penalty, i'd be fine with. But calling it attempted murder without proof that a death was the intended consequence is utter bullshit. What exactly do you think the point is of swatting --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:902632363] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sphyx posted...</cite> <quote>Some sort of charge with a harsh penalty, i'd be fine with. But calling it attempted murder without proof that a death was the intended consequence is utter bullshit.</quote> What exactly do you think the point is of swatting</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sphyx 06/06/18 2:41:06 AM #33:	I have no intention of ever doing it, so i cant presume to know. But assuming it's explicitly to get someone killed is idiotic. --- You're so vain, You probably think this sig is about you. <cite>Sphyx posted [p:902632658] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote>I have no intention of ever doing it, so i cant presume to know. But assuming it's explicitly to get someone killed is idiotic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThatMuttGuy 06/06/18 2:43:30 AM #34:	Sphyx posted... I have no intention of ever doing it, so i cant presume to know. But assuming it's explicitly to get someone killed is idiotic. Your trolling game needs work. <cite>ThatMuttGuy posted [p:902632704] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sphyx posted...</cite> <quote>I have no intention of ever doing it, so i cant presume to know. But assuming it's explicitly to get someone killed is idiotic.</quote> Your trolling game needs work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sphyx 06/06/18 2:45:42 AM #35:	You can dislike hearing it all you want. Doesn't make it any less true. --- You're so vain, You probably think this sig is about you. <cite>Sphyx posted [p:902632743] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote>You can dislike hearing it all you want. Doesn't make it any less true.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 06/06/18 2:59:00 AM #36:	I think calling it attempted murder is a bad idea Think about it, threaten someone with a bomb, and they will call the police. If you make them think you're in a house you aren't actually in, you get those people swatted instead, and the person you actually want to harass goes to jail for murder. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:902633010] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote>I think calling it attempted murder is a bad idea Think about it, threaten someone with a bomb, and they will call the police. If you make them think you're in a house you aren't actually in, you get those people swatted instead, and the person you actually want to harass goes to jail for murder.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teepan95 06/06/18 3:30:03 AM #37:	I Like Toast posted... Attempted murder seems harsh as a cut and dry thing. But I have no issue with it being a felony with possible jail time and/or a significant fine. Yeah, this. Maybe have it be attempted murder depending on the exact circumstances. --- I use Gameraven and you should too. #heavilyburntpotato <cite>teepan95 posted [p:902633690] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote>Attempted murder seems harsh as a cut and dry thing. But I have no issue with it being a felony with possible jail time and/or a significant fine.</quote> Yeah, this. Maybe have it be attempted murder depending on the exact circumstances.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 06/06/18 3:41:45 AM #38:	I love that this poll is hilariously one sided. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:902633920] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote>I love that this poll is hilariously one sided.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Knowledge_King 06/06/18 10:38:14 AM #39:	Whatever calling in a fake police report is. That should be the charge. --- http://www.warwithwords.com Run: 4 Stars and IndieReader Approved:https://www.amazon.com/Run-M-N-ebook/dp/B076R7DCHN <cite>Knowledge_King posted [p:902644414] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote>Whatever calling in a fake police report is. That should be the charge.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Musourenka 06/06/18 10:46:09 AM #40:	Mr_Biscuit posted... Sphyx posted... Some sort of charge with a harsh penalty, i'd be fine with. But calling it attempted murder without proof that a death was the intended consequence is utter bullshit. What exactly do you think the point is of swatting Scaring the crap out of the person? I really don't know. --- Shooing away pigeons crapping on debate tables is not a violation of the pigeons' free speech. <cite>Musourenka posted [p:902644833] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sphyx posted...</cite> <quote>Some sort of charge with a harsh penalty, i'd be fine with. But calling it attempted murder without proof that a death was the intended consequence is utter bullshit.</quote> What exactly do you think the point is of swatting</quote> Scaring the crap out of the person? I really don't know.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KILBOTz 06/06/18 11:21:40 AM #41:	Charge them for attempted murder, accessory to any crimes that happen when those police are engaged and make them pay all costs associated with the wasted time. If someone dies then first degree murder. --- https://imgur.com/O3syCWD https://imgur.com/k3YiBdG <cite>KILBOTz posted [p:902646647] in IYO: Shoul... [t:76677168]...</cite> <quote>Charge them for attempted murder, accessory to any crimes that happen when those police are engaged and make them pay all costs associated with the wasted time. If someone dies then first degree murder.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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