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ThatMuttGuy
06/02/18 3:31:05 PM
#51:


CyricZ posted...
An incel's worst foe isn't their own community: it's the people slightly above them who insist that they remain there so those people can feel better about their own lot.

It's the 2nd-bottom rung ridiculing the bottom rung.

In short, I'm supportive of this site's effort.

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Aloner
06/02/18 3:31:49 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Aloner posted...
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The disability

What the fuck are you even talking about now?

Disabilities that compound social function in general.

So youre not actually talking about neurological disorders and just using that as a buzzword to mean awkward people?

But he felt smart when he posted it.

You're not exactly smart if you deny that various neurological disorders increase the difficulty of social development and communication.
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ShutTheF---_Up
06/02/18 3:33:28 PM
#53:


CyricZ posted...
An incel's worst foe isn't their own community: it's the people slightly above them who insist that they remain there so those people can feel better about their own lot.

It's the 2nd-bottom rung ridiculing the bottom rung.

In short, I'm supportive of this site's effort.


Yeah the real problem is the people criticizing incels for thinking women are giant bitches that should be raped and thus suggesting they should be out of the dating game for the sake of the women's safety. Certainly not the incels and those viewpoints themselves.

You're smarter than this.
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ArchiePeck
06/02/18 3:33:52 PM
#55:


ThatMuttGuy posted...
ImAMarvel posted...
ThatMuttGuy posted...
Yes manlets are fair game


spudger posted...
god this shit is creepy


metralo posted...
this is basically suicide for any woman.

incels boast about how they want to murder women all of the time, and worship elliot rodgers. yeah, lets making a dating site for them.


why is this site so fucking stupid

like, this is LITERALLY a resource for incels so that they might actually find someone, which might help their confidence, which would help them break out of the incel mindset

shit like this is why incels are basically fucked, because NO ONE really wants to help them. all they want to do is treat them like shit and belittle them, which just makes it all the worse

Ok so you're a woman. You can either date people that hate your entire sex or you can date normal people. Sorry but the choice is clear.


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CyricZ
06/02/18 3:37:00 PM
#56:


shockthemonkey posted...
An incels worst enemy is themselves

I accept this.

Regardless, when I see a topic that tries to dehumanize people with serious social problems instead of trying to help them, I can't help but think they're just glad someone's worse off than them.
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TheUsualSuspect
06/02/18 3:37:26 PM
#57:


@SomeLikeItHoth
Finally a dating site for your ugly mug
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P4wn4g3
06/02/18 3:38:18 PM
#58:


Aloner posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Aloner posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
The disability

What the fuck are you even talking about now?

Disabilities that compound social function in general.

So youre not actually talking about neurological disorders and just using that as a buzzword to mean awkward people?

But he felt smart when he posted it.

You're not exactly smart if you deny that various neurological disorders increase the difficulty of social development and communication.

You mean like you already did?
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Vulgorn
06/02/18 3:38:35 PM
#59:


CyricZ posted...
I accept this Regardless, when I see a topic that tries to dehumanize people with serious social problems instead of trying to help them, I can't help but think they're just glad someone's worse off than them.

That doesn't apply to incels. The embittered stubborn attitude of incels almost guarantees they're beyond outside help. Why the fuck should people help incels when they wont even help themselves?
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Aloner
06/02/18 3:38:48 PM
#60:


ShutTheF---_Up posted...
Yeah men have it harder because average looking men have to take initiative. This does not mean that it's a 'sizeable portion', it just results in vocal psychos who think that because they 'tried' to do something nice (because it takes so much effort), the woman should date them.

We should be recognizing and trying to prevent situations that create psychos.

That there are some nice people who can't find any love at all, while there are some cruel people who are showered with affection, is very sad.

The incel wonders what the point of trying to be a good person is, if there are bad people who are more appreciated by society, and they go rogue. It's not justified or right, but it's understandable. They're desperately lashing out in confusion.
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ThatMuttGuy
06/02/18 3:40:30 PM
#63:


Aloner posted...
ShutTheF---_Up posted...
Yeah men have it harder because average looking men have to take initiative. This does not mean that it's a 'sizeable portion', it just results in vocal psychos who think that because they 'tried' to do something nice (because it takes so much effort), the woman should date them.

We should be recognizing and trying to prevent situations that create psychos.

That there are some nice people who can't find any love at all, while there are some cruel people who are showered with affection, is very sad.

The incel wonders what the point of trying to be a good person is, if there are bad people who are more appreciated by society, and they go rogue. It's not justified or right, but it's understandable. They're desperately lashing out in confusion.

Step 1: no one is entitled to sex
Step 2: don't be a "nice guy"
Step 3: realize there's good and bad women just like everything in life. If a woman doesn't show interest in you, that doesn't mean she was leading you on lol.
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ThatMuttGuy
06/02/18 3:42:03 PM
#64:


ImAMarvel posted...
CyricZ posted...
An incel's worst foe isn't their own community: it's the people slightly above them who insist that they remain there so those people can feel better about their own lot.

It's the 2nd-bottom rung ridiculing the bottom rung.

In short, I'm supportive of this site's effort.


I actually agree with this. The whole reason why this site shits on incels constantly is because most of this site is just above them on the social ladder, and it's a classic case of picking on them so that they can look and feel better about themselves. You don't see "normal" people talking shit about virgins constantly.

No people shit on incels because they're a hateful group of pathetic people. No one cares if someone is a virgin or not. It's when you start hating an entire sex (and probably the world) that it becomes an issue.
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ShutTheF---_Up
06/02/18 3:44:00 PM
#65:


Aloner posted...
That there are some nice people who can't find any love at all, while there are some cruel people who are showered with affection, is very sad.


The first step is learning to figure out that those two things are completely situational and have no correlation to each other.

A nice guy who lives in the middle of nowhere or who won't talk to anybody has nothing to do with a confident asshole who manages to approach women, and show his true colors well into the relationship.

People aren't obligated to 'help' these people. You've been told all your life not to associate with toxic individuals. This results in them being isolated, and it's their fault if they don't want to recognize why they're there.
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CyricZ
06/02/18 3:47:31 PM
#66:


I don't disagree that the incel lifestyle is toxic and, quite frankly, suicidal.

But I won't write off an individual as beyond hope.

If someone wants to reach out and use this site to try to break out of that spiral, more power to them. I'm not sure how effective it will be, but at least someone's trying to open a door for them.
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ShutTheF---_Up
06/02/18 3:48:45 PM
#68:


ImAMarvel posted...
ThatMuttGuy posted...
No people shit on incels because they're a hateful group of pathetic people. No one cares if someone is a virgin or not. It's when you start hating an entire sex (and probably the world) that it becomes an issue.


Honestly, some of the hate from this very site seems like it's directed towards virgins period, rather than just incels.


That is true

And those people who hate/look down on virgins are pathetic
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Aloner
06/02/18 3:48:55 PM
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ThatMuttGuy posted...
Step 1: no one is entitled to sex

Not sex, of course. But basic affection is a human need for stable mental health. It's not plausible to expect someone to remain on the straight and narrow if they're never privileged with the adoration that normal people enjoy.

ThatMuttGuy posted...
Step 2: don't be a "nice guy"

That's what incels are doing. They made the choice to never be nice.

ThatMuttGuy posted...
Step 3: realize there's good and bad women just like everything in life. If a woman doesn't show interest in you, that doesn't mean she was leading you on lol.

It's hard not to think in absolutes if your life is an absolute of unanimous social rejection.
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ShutTheF---_Up
06/02/18 3:51:45 PM
#71:


Aloner posted...
That's what incels are doing. They made the choice to never be nice.


lol
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EverDownward
06/02/18 3:52:01 PM
#72:


RedWhiteBlue posted...
And most people think incels are exclusively that toxic community subreddit, not actual involuntary celibates. And that incels are not exclusive to virgins. And that by purposefully taking away a once innocent word, they prevent people from expressing themselves for their problems. It's like when people once demonized certain mental health issues, but over time we saw that a metric fuck ton of people have legitimate depression and now it's not something we jump down each other's throats for.

In due time incels will get their due attention, but society isn't caught up just yet.

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ThatMuttGuy
06/02/18 3:57:50 PM
#73:


@ShutTheF---_Up posted...
ImAMarvel posted...
ThatMuttGuy posted...
No people shit on incels because they're a hateful group of pathetic people. No one cares if someone is a virgin or not. It's when you start hating an entire sex (and probably the world) that it becomes an issue.


Honestly, some of the hate from this very site seems like it's directed towards virgins period, rather than just incels.


That is true

And those people who hate/look down on virgins are pathetic

You do realize that whole thread I did was just me messing around, right?
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P4wn4g3
06/02/18 3:59:31 PM
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The more I think about it, the more it seems to me that incels are the male counterpart to feminists. They both hate the opposite sex, they are both terrible people with a "cause" , the problems that the radicals talk about are fucking cultism at best, the majority of problems on either side can be solved with straightforward common sense self betterment solutions.
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hockeybub89
06/02/18 3:59:39 PM
#75:


Why would anyone want to date an incel? There's a reason no one wants to be around those toxic fuckers.

We like to always think people become shitty when they are made outsiders, but sometimes they are outsiders because they are shitty. Incels are part of that group.
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ThatMuttGuy
06/02/18 4:00:17 PM
#76:


P4wn4g3 posted...
The more I think about it, the more it seems to me that incels are the male counterpart to feminists. They both hate the opposite sex, they are both terrible people with a "cause" , the problems that the radicals talk about are fucking cultism at best, the majority of problems on either side can be solved with straightforward common sense self betterment solutions.

Incels x Feminists when
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ShutTheF---_Up
06/02/18 4:01:00 PM
#77:


ThatMuttGuy posted...
@ShutTheF---_Up posted...
ImAMarvel posted...
ThatMuttGuy posted...
No people shit on incels because they're a hateful group of pathetic people. No one cares if someone is a virgin or not. It's when you start hating an entire sex (and probably the world) that it becomes an issue.


Honestly, some of the hate from this very site seems like it's directed towards virgins period, rather than just incels.


That is true

And those people who hate/look down on virgins are pathetic

You do realize that whole thread I did was just me messing around, right?


I'm not really referring to you in particular

like I was arguing with @darkprince45 the other day and the dude swore anyone who was a virgin in their 20s must've been a neckbeard living in mommys basement
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ClockworkHare
06/02/18 4:04:02 PM
#78:


Looks like an interesting social experiment.

Sorry, I'm not another Chicken Little screaming about how this is the sky falling yet again and we need to stop it immediately (as if we could). Morbid curiosity beckons me to see what actually happens; because...better or worse...that's how society learns.

If it turns into a complete train wreck, oh well, that's still a notable lesson.
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Aloner
06/02/18 4:05:50 PM
#79:


hockeybub89 posted...
We like to always think people become shitty when they are made outsiders, but sometimes they are outsiders because they are shitty. Incels are part of that group.

That makes no sense. Many of them became hateful incels because they were already ostracized before they developed toxic beliefs. It's the bitter response, not the cause.

And many shitty people are popular and beloved, so that's not the disqualifying trait. It's bad social skills.
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itachi15243
06/02/18 4:07:49 PM
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Just using this site is admitting you're ugly and or have little social skills. Plus it probably gonna be like a 10:1 ratio of guys to girls. Half of which are likely to just be girls looking for pet toys to fuck with and free dinners.

Good luck CE
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Aloner
06/02/18 4:12:12 PM
#82:


itachi15243 posted...
Just using this site is admitting you're ugly and or have little social skills. Plus it probably gonna be like a 10:1 ratio of guys to girls. Half of which are likely to just be girls looking for pet toys to fuck with and free dinners.

Good luck CE

It would be really sad if people joined that site to bully incels. And realistically, possibly dangerous.
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Aloner
06/02/18 4:16:15 PM
#84:


shockthemonkey posted...
Aloner posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
We like to always think people become shitty when they are made outsiders, but sometimes they are outsiders because they are shitty. Incels are part of that group.

That makes no sense. Many of them became hateful incels because they were already ostracized before they developed toxic beliefs. It's the bitter response, not the cause.

And many shitty people are popular and beloved, so that's not the disqualifying trait. It's bad social skills.

No one forces anyone to become a sack of shit.

It's a choice, obviously. I'm just saying that pretending it's the cause of previous events is silly. There are many better people in the same position as incels.
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Manocheese
06/02/18 4:17:12 PM
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It's disgusting how people judge all incels by the actions of a few. Imagine if you judged other groups that way. Is it okay to treat all Muslims like terrorists? Is it okay to treat all black people like drug dealers? If not, then why would it be okay to treat all incels like misogynist would-be killers?
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hockeybub89
06/02/18 4:18:38 PM
#86:


Aloner posted...
That makes no sense. Many of them became hateful incels because they were already ostracized before they developed toxic beliefs. It's the bitter response, not the cause.

You don't get that way because you don't have sex. You get that way because you're a toxic fuck who no one has any obligation to deal with. This is like blaming school shooters on being ostracized. Maybe saying weird shit and being a creep put them in that outsider position. Unless you're going to argue that everyone with bad social skills is a bitter piece of shit AND a virgin, then it doesn't seem like you can blame social skills. I don't think most awkward people who have experienced social rejection behave like that.

The very term "involuntary celibate" comes of bitter. Would that even be a thing unleas you literally could not have sex?
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RoboLaserGandhi
06/02/18 4:20:46 PM
#87:


ShutTheF---_Up posted...
CyricZ posted...
An incel's worst foe isn't their own community: it's the people slightly above them who insist that they remain there so those people can feel better about their own lot.

It's the 2nd-bottom rung ridiculing the bottom rung.

In short, I'm supportive of this site's effort.


Yeah the real problem is the people criticizing incels for thinking women are giant bitches that should be raped and thus suggesting they should be out of the dating game for the sake of the women's safety. Certainly not the incels and those viewpoints themselves.

You're smarter than this.

Most incels aren't like that, though. Not every group is full of just its extremists.

And even in their cases, wouldn't they mostly be mysoginist out of bitterness for their situation and it would largely change their outlook on life when they find someone?
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hockeybub89
06/02/18 4:22:49 PM
#88:


Manocheese posted...
It's disgusting how people judge all incels by the actions of a few. Imagine if you judged other groups that way. Is it okay to treat all Muslims like terrorists? Is it okay to treat all black people like drug dealers? If not, then why would it be okay to treat all incels like misogynist would-be killers?

Bitter misogynists is quite a bit more specific than "black people".
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ultimate reaver
06/02/18 4:25:54 PM
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what happened to people just calling themselves virgins? i cant imagine anyone wanting to be around anyone that gives themselves a grandiose title like "involuntary celibate" because they can't fuck anyone, let alone dating them
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A_Good_Boy
06/02/18 4:26:11 PM
#91:


Seems like a really good place to go if you want to chat with bots and scammers.
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itachi15243
06/02/18 4:27:12 PM
#92:


Aloner posted...
itachi15243 posted...
Just using this site is admitting you're ugly and or have little social skills. Plus it probably gonna be like a 10:1 ratio of guys to girls. Half of which are likely to just be girls looking for pet toys to fuck with and free dinners.

Good luck CE

It would be really sad if people joined that site to bully incels. And realistically, possibly dangerous.


Sad but likely

I mean, on the bright side there's probably gonna be gamer girls and nerds. They could probably get with some of then before the better looking guys with bettrr personalities sign up because they don't get laid often.
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Manocheese
06/02/18 4:29:12 PM
#93:


Bullet_Wing posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Manocheese posted...
It's disgusting how people judge all incels by the actions of a few. Imagine if you judged other groups that way. Is it okay to treat all Muslims like terrorists? Is it okay to treat all black people like drug dealers? If not, then why would it be okay to treat all incels like misogynist would-be killers?

Bitter misogynists is quite a bit more specific than "black people".

Manocheese is just upset that he is getting profiled, belonging to that community and all

What community? I embraced the superiority of 2D long ago, but many unenlightened individuals struggle with inceldom. It doesn't help that people like you love to kick them while they're down.
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hockeybub89
06/02/18 4:30:07 PM
#94:


ultimate reaver posted...
what happened to people just calling themselves virgins? i cant imagine anyone wanting to be around anyone that gives themselves a grandiose title like "involuntary celibate" because they can't fuck anyone, let alone dating them

Virgins with a vendetta decided they needed to make their own community and then wondered why announcing their toxicity made people look down on them.

Seriously, how can one even be involuntarily celibate? Standards are voluntary. Lose them if you need sex so damn bad for some reason.
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ThatMuttGuy
06/02/18 4:31:37 PM
#95:


hockeybub89 posted...
ultimate reaver posted...
what happened to people just calling themselves virgins? i cant imagine anyone wanting to be around anyone that gives themselves a grandiose title like "involuntary celibate" because they can't fuck anyone, let alone dating them

Virgins with a vendetta decided they needed to make their own community and then wondered why announcing their toxicity made people look down on them.

Holy shit. That's the perfect description
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Aloner
06/02/18 4:46:01 PM
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How is finding a way to be content with being stuck alone for life worse than being an incel?
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Banana_Cyanide
06/02/18 4:49:00 PM
#99:


Aloner posted...
How is finding a way to be content with being stuck alone for life worse than being an incel?

Didn't someone else in this topic point out how people on here just want to shit on virgins?

What a way to prove their point.
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Axiom
06/02/18 4:51:21 PM
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I don't see a problem with it but it was still a horrible idea. Regardless of their intentions incel now is synonymous with toxic woman hating violent men. Most people didn't even know the term until that crazed bastard ran people down. Of course a dating website centered around them is not going to be received well
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