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Grischnak
05/27/18 7:17:38 AM
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xBloodBrotherx posted...
Shouldn't have done it like that and this soon, but there's a lot of valid things to criticize him for. Because he tried to change after he knew he was dying doesn't undo all the shitty things he said and did.


Like what? Angry tweets? Talking shit about games he didn't like? He wasn't the President of NAMBLA or something. His "shitty things" seem very mundane by pretty much any standard.
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TheKingOf-Kings
05/27/18 7:32:38 AM
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Grischnak posted...
xBloodBrotherx posted...
Shouldn't have done it like that and this soon, but there's a lot of valid things to criticize him for. Because he tried to change after he knew he was dying doesn't undo all the shitty things he said and did.


Like what? Angry tweets? Talking shit about games he didn't like? He wasn't the President of NAMBLA or something. His "shitty things" seem very mundane by pretty much any standard.


This. It's really weird seeing people hate on this guy because he had differing opinions concerning VIDEO GAMES. What the fuck is wrong with people.
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Rika_Furude
05/27/18 7:34:16 AM
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xBloodBrotherx posted...
Shouldn't have done it like that and this soon, but there's a lot of valid things to criticize him for. Because he tried to change after he knew he was dying doesn't undo all the shitty things he said and did.

All like 2 bad tweets? Youve probably done worse anyway
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xBloodBrotherx
05/27/18 7:41:47 AM
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TheKingOf-Kings posted...
Grischnak posted...
xBloodBrotherx posted...
Shouldn't have done it like that and this soon, but there's a lot of valid things to criticize him for. Because he tried to change after he knew he was dying doesn't undo all the shitty things he said and did.


Like what? Angry tweets? Talking shit about games he didn't like? He wasn't the President of NAMBLA or something. His "shitty things" seem very mundane by pretty much any standard.


This. It's really weird seeing people hate on this guy because he had differing opinions concerning VIDEO GAMES. What the fuck is wrong with people.

No, like wishing cancer on people, death on people, and multiple people having negative experiences that he only made amends on after he knew he had severe cancer...

Rika_Furude posted...
xBloodBrotherx posted...
Shouldn't have done it like that and this soon, but there's a lot of valid things to criticize him for. Because he tried to change after he knew he was dying doesn't undo all the shitty things he said and did.

All like 2 bad tweets? Youve probably done worse anyway

I've never wished anyone to get cancer, or to die a painful death, other than like child rapists and stuff, not people I disagree with on the internet over dumb shit.
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TheKingOf-Kings
05/27/18 7:43:50 AM
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People get on my case for having no remorse over the passing of rapists and murderers and shithead racists responsible for enacting fucked up laws. And these people think they have the moral high ground? Because of Gamergate? WHO FUCKING DIED DURING GAMERGATE?!
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Rika_Furude
05/27/18 7:48:01 AM
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xBloodBrotherx posted...
TheKingOf-Kings posted...
Grischnak posted...
xBloodBrotherx posted...
Shouldn't have done it like that and this soon, but there's a lot of valid things to criticize him for. Because he tried to change after he knew he was dying doesn't undo all the shitty things he said and did.


Like what? Angry tweets? Talking shit about games he didn't like? He wasn't the President of NAMBLA or something. His "shitty things" seem very mundane by pretty much any standard.


This. It's really weird seeing people hate on this guy because he had differing opinions concerning VIDEO GAMES. What the fuck is wrong with people.

No, like wishing cancer on people, death on people, and multiple people having negative experiences that he only made amends on after he knew he had severe cancer...

Rika_Furude posted...
xBloodBrotherx posted...
Shouldn't have done it like that and this soon, but there's a lot of valid things to criticize him for. Because he tried to change after he knew he was dying doesn't undo all the shitty things he said and did.

All like 2 bad tweets? Youve probably done worse anyway

I've never wished anyone to get cancer, or to die a painful death, other than like child rapists and stuff, not people I disagree with on the internet over dumb shit.

We dont believe you.
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EnragedSlith
05/27/18 7:49:51 AM
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xBloodBrotherx
05/27/18 7:50:41 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
xBloodBrotherx posted...
TheKingOf-Kings posted...
Grischnak posted...
xBloodBrotherx posted...
Shouldn't have done it like that and this soon, but there's a lot of valid things to criticize him for. Because he tried to change after he knew he was dying doesn't undo all the shitty things he said and did.


Like what? Angry tweets? Talking shit about games he didn't like? He wasn't the President of NAMBLA or something. His "shitty things" seem very mundane by pretty much any standard.


This. It's really weird seeing people hate on this guy because he had differing opinions concerning VIDEO GAMES. What the fuck is wrong with people.

No, like wishing cancer on people, death on people, and multiple people having negative experiences that he only made amends on after he knew he had severe cancer...

Rika_Furude posted...
xBloodBrotherx posted...
Shouldn't have done it like that and this soon, but there's a lot of valid things to criticize him for. Because he tried to change after he knew he was dying doesn't undo all the shitty things he said and did.

All like 2 bad tweets? Youve probably done worse anyway

I've never wished anyone to get cancer, or to die a painful death, other than like child rapists and stuff, not people I disagree with on the internet over dumb shit.

We dont believe you.

Can you quote a single time I wished anyone anything of the sort other than people who committed abhorrent acts like mass shootings, child rape, etc. No? Then shut the fuck up and use your head to think instead of your ass.

and even that insult is nothing compared to what he wished upon more than one person just for disagreeing with him on the internet.
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Rika_Furude
05/27/18 7:58:34 AM
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You expect us to believe that in your entire life youve never made an insultig comment towards someone? Not even when you were 12. Good luck getting anyone to believe you...
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scar the 1
05/27/18 8:09:46 AM
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I don't know much about TB, but I gather I wouldn't have liked him. Still I agree with people here that this kind of Twitter meltdown is atrocious in response to someone's passing.
...sadly I suspect that some people condemning this would be cheering and celebrating if, say, Anita Sarkeesian were to pass away.
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pegusus123456
05/27/18 8:10:26 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
I don't know much about TB, but I gather I wouldn't have liked him

Why's that?
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scar the 1
05/27/18 8:12:04 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
scar the 1 posted...
I don't know much about TB, but I gather I wouldn't have liked him

Why's that?

Well based on his political opinions and his stance on GamerGate etc. As for his other content, I have no idea if I'd like that. Maybe, maybe not.
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Dabrikishaw15
05/27/18 8:13:42 AM
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takes a real shallow piece of shit to celebrate a gamer of an opposing viewpoint's death..

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Delta_F14
05/27/18 8:15:27 AM
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Totalbiscuit's port reports were extremely useful if you play on PC, he went into extreme detail on most technical aspects of PC games.
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itachi15243
05/27/18 8:19:33 AM
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I definitely wouldn't be upset if this pos got fired for this.

Has he yet?
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EmaIdon7
05/27/18 8:39:10 AM
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Why? Did TB give their games bad reviews?
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pegusus123456
05/27/18 8:41:04 AM
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EmaIdon7 posted...
Why? Did TB give their games bad reviews?

If I remember the Need For Speed video correctly, he pretty much just laughed at it for eleven minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDA37BmvNwM" data-time="

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Grischnak
05/27/18 3:20:53 PM
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No, like wishing cancer on people, death on people, and multiple people having negative experiences that he only made amends on after he knew he had severe cancer...

It's a curious thing. The cancer comment. You people bring that up like he was in a basement creating cancer causing potions to trick that other guy to drink to give that guy cancer. Hint: He wasn't. He didn't actually want that guy to get cancer. He talked some shit online in a moment of anger. As I said, as far as "shitty things" go that's real low on the scale. Most 10 year old gamers do similar things every day. Do you delight in the deaths of such children too?
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Esrac
05/27/18 6:11:29 PM
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scar the 1 posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
scar the 1 posted...
I don't know much about TB, but I gather I wouldn't have liked him

Why's that?

Well based on his political opinions and his stance on GamerGate etc. As for his other content, I have no idea if I'd like that. Maybe, maybe not.


You said you didn't really know much about him. What political opinions did you disagree with? I don't think he talked much about politics outside of events like expressing his frustration at the Trump victory. Or when he chewed out an audience member for asking "Are traps gay?" during some Q&A.
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Superlinkbro
05/27/18 6:22:51 PM
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Wow, what fucking scum.
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Darmik
05/27/18 6:37:55 PM
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A lot of this debate reminds me how CE reacted when P2E died.
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Darmik
05/27/18 6:46:30 PM
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Darmik posted...
A lot of this debate reminds me how CE reacted when P2E died.


I mean at least people who had poor interactions with P2E have a reason to feel no remorse towards him

People are holding some aggressive tweets that TB made under stress years ago against him without knowing the context and I don't think that's fair


It seems pretty similar to me. People made enemies because of dickish comments made online.

People should step back from the keyboard and remember that there are people behind those accounts and their interactions with them don't summarize them as a person.
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catboy0_0
05/27/18 6:47:40 PM
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Darmik posted...
A lot of this debate reminds me how CE reacted when P2E died.

woah he died? wtf? oh no...
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Spidey5
05/27/18 6:48:14 PM
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Darmik posted...
A lot of this debate reminds me how CE reacted when P2E died.

What a shitstorm...
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xBloodBrotherx
05/27/18 6:50:08 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
You expect us to believe that in your entire life youve never made an insultig comment towards someone? Not even when you were 12. Good luck getting anyone to believe you...

Uhh, where did I say I've never insulted anyone? Of course I've insulted people. But I've never wished death, cancer, or something like that on someone.
There is a very big distinction to be made there.

Saying "You're a fucking dumbass" =/= "I hope you get cancer and die"

And even if I had that's a major false equivalency because if he'd said it when he was 12 I wouldn't give a shit, just some edgy kid. But he was a grown ass man when he said that shit.

Maybe it's normal for you to go around telling people you hope they die painfully of cancer because they hurt your feelings but most people don't.
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Grischnak
05/27/18 8:54:45 PM
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xBloodBrotherx posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
You expect us to believe that in your entire life youve never made an insultig comment towards someone? Not even when you were 12. Good luck getting anyone to believe you...

Uhh, where did I say I've never insulted anyone? Of course I've insulted people. But I've never wished death, cancer, or something like that on someone.
There is a very big distinction to be made there.

Saying "You're a fucking dumbass" =/= "I hope you get cancer and die"

And even if I had that's a major false equivalency because if he'd said it when he was 12 I wouldn't give a shit, just some edgy kid. But he was a grown ass man when he said that shit.

Maybe it's normal for you to go around telling people you hope they die painfully of cancer because they hurt your feelings but most people don't.


The distinction is that you assume that he literally wished for the guy to die of cancer. Which is, frankly, gigantic assumption. In all likelihood, he did in fact not want the guy to actually die. It almost certainly just a random insult that he probably forgot about entirely a few hours later.
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xBloodBrotherx
05/27/18 9:49:07 PM
#80:


Grischnak posted...
xBloodBrotherx posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
You expect us to believe that in your entire life youve never made an insultig comment towards someone? Not even when you were 12. Good luck getting anyone to believe you...

Uhh, where did I say I've never insulted anyone? Of course I've insulted people. But I've never wished death, cancer, or something like that on someone.
There is a very big distinction to be made there.

Saying "You're a fucking dumbass" =/= "I hope you get cancer and die"

And even if I had that's a major false equivalency because if he'd said it when he was 12 I wouldn't give a shit, just some edgy kid. But he was a grown ass man when he said that shit.

Maybe it's normal for you to go around telling people you hope they die painfully of cancer because they hurt your feelings but most people don't.


The distinction is that you assume that he literally wished for the guy to die of cancer. Which is, frankly, gigantic assumption. In all likelihood, he did in fact not want the guy to actually die. It almost certainly just a random insult that he probably forgot about entirely a few hours later.

PewDiePie probably isn't racist but that doesn't mean a grown ass man can get killed in a video game and then call them an n word just because he was trying to hurl a random offensive edgy insult at someone.

Same thing goes for telling people to kill themselves or wish them a slow painful death of cancer, etc. Words have meaning, words have consequences, think before you speak. You're a grown ass man. And on the internet over text it's even easier to take a moment to think because you have to type it up, look at it, and be like yep seems good to me, send. At least if it was off the tongue you could argue you just said the most offensive thing you could without thinking. Still wouldn't be okay that way either.

How many of you grown adults go around telling people you hope they die painfully of cancer, doesn't matter if you mean it when you say it or not, just how frequently do you do it? How frequently do you wish anything of the sort on people in your day to day lives as an adult?
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Darmik
05/27/18 9:57:18 PM
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TotalBiscuit said some shitty things online and probably felt justified about it at the time (although he seemed to regret it in the long run).
Now this game developer has said shitty things about TotalBiscuit's death and felt justified about it at the time. I'm sure he'll regret it in the long run if he doesn't already.
Now people will say shitty things towards him and other game developers (I've already seen a lot of toxicity thrown at Bioware and EA over this) because they feel justified about it.

And so the shitty, toxic side of the internet continues forever. If only people stopped taking everything so personal and seriously and try to be a bit more nice towards others. But that'll never happen while it's easy to demonize people you disagree with or dislike.
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Grischnak
05/28/18 12:35:14 AM
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xBloodBrotherx posted...
PewDiePie probably isn't racist but that doesn't mean a grown ass man can get killed in a video game and then call them an n word just because he was trying to hurl a random offensive edgy insult at someone.

Same thing goes for telling people to kill themselves or wish them a slow painful death of cancer, etc. Words have meaning, words have consequences, think before you speak. You're a grown ass man. And on the internet over text it's even easier to take a moment to think because you have to type it up, look at it, and be like yep seems good to me, send. At least if it was off the tongue you could argue you just said the most offensive thing you could without thinking. Still wouldn't be okay that way either.

How many of you grown adults go around telling people you hope they die painfully of cancer, doesn't matter if you mean it when you say it or not, just how frequently do you do it? How frequently do you wish anything of the sort on people in your day to day lives as an adult?


It really doesn't matter how often I insult people or not. The reality remains, insulting people on Twitter is a laughable moral offense. It's dumb and you probably shouldn't do it but to hold it up like it's some great sin is a joke. This was a spat between two adult peers and the guy he insulted came out and said it wasn't a big deal. I'll say again, the one person that actually has a reason to care about that insult doesn't even care.
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thronedfire2
05/28/18 12:37:30 AM
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SpiralDrift posted...
I thought the first tweet was bad enough, but then I scrolled down... JFC

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scar the 1
05/28/18 1:03:07 AM
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Conflict posted...
I don't know man, a grown ass man would be able to recognize perspective and how some things said in the heat of the moment probably aren't things they absolutely meant. Anger and shock cause people to say some f***ed things sometimes. That's natural. Even if you didn't use those exact words, if you've ever had a moment where you've said something really heated and harsh when you were angry, then it doesn't make sense to criticize this guy over doing the same thing. It's really silly how you're holding this over the guy when it was so long ago and he made amends with the person he sent it to.

A grown ass man should. Would he? I'm not sure. Even so, a big part of PewDiePie consists of kids. He's a role model, whether he likes it or not. IMO there's a legitimate argument to be made that people in the public sphere like him have a bigger responsibility to act like proper grown ass people.
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Esrac
05/28/18 1:16:51 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
Conflict posted...
I don't know man, a grown ass man would be able to recognize perspective and how some things said in the heat of the moment probably aren't things they absolutely meant. Anger and shock cause people to say some f***ed things sometimes. That's natural. Even if you didn't use those exact words, if you've ever had a moment where you've said something really heated and harsh when you were angry, then it doesn't make sense to criticize this guy over doing the same thing. It's really silly how you're holding this over the guy when it was so long ago and he made amends with the person he sent it to.

A grown ass man should. Would he? I'm not sure. Even so, a big part of PewDiePie consists of kids. He's a role model, whether he likes it or not. IMO there's a legitimate argument to be made that people in the public sphere like him have a bigger responsibility to act like proper grown ass people.


I mean, I'm pretty sure PewDiePie's audience tunes in because he doesn't act like a proper grown ass person. He's an entertainer and just because he has a large audience doesn't mean he has any obligation, outside of youtube's policies, to behave a certain way for the sake of the children.

Also, you never did say what part of TB's political opinions make you think you wouldn't like him.
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Grischnak
05/28/18 2:07:32 AM
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Esrac posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Conflict posted...
I don't know man, a grown ass man would be able to recognize perspective and how some things said in the heat of the moment probably aren't things they absolutely meant. Anger and shock cause people to say some f***ed things sometimes. That's natural. Even if you didn't use those exact words, if you've ever had a moment where you've said something really heated and harsh when you were angry, then it doesn't make sense to criticize this guy over doing the same thing. It's really silly how you're holding this over the guy when it was so long ago and he made amends with the person he sent it to.

A grown ass man should. Would he? I'm not sure. Even so, a big part of PewDiePie consists of kids. He's a role model, whether he likes it or not. IMO there's a legitimate argument to be made that people in the public sphere like him have a bigger responsibility to act like proper grown ass people.


I mean, I'm pretty sure PewDiePie's audience tunes in because he doesn't act like a proper grown ass person. He's an entertainer and just because he has a large audience doesn't mean he has any obligation, outside of youtube's policies, to behave a certain way for the sake of the children.

Also, you never did say what part of TB's political opinions make you think you wouldn't like him.


Let me take a shot at this: He heard someone on Twitter mention some vague shit about TB being anti-SJW during Gamergate and he's too lazy to look up TBs actual role in Gamergate so he just assumes TB was a racist, misogynist piece of shit. Of course that's bullshit but there seems to be plenty of people that think that way.
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scar the 1
05/28/18 3:16:51 AM
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Esrac posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Conflict posted...
I don't know man, a grown ass man would be able to recognize perspective and how some things said in the heat of the moment probably aren't things they absolutely meant. Anger and shock cause people to say some f***ed things sometimes. That's natural. Even if you didn't use those exact words, if you've ever had a moment where you've said something really heated and harsh when you were angry, then it doesn't make sense to criticize this guy over doing the same thing. It's really silly how you're holding this over the guy when it was so long ago and he made amends with the person he sent it to.

A grown ass man should. Would he? I'm not sure. Even so, a big part of PewDiePie consists of kids. He's a role model, whether he likes it or not. IMO there's a legitimate argument to be made that people in the public sphere like him have a bigger responsibility to act like proper grown ass people.


I mean, I'm pretty sure PewDiePie's audience tunes in because he doesn't act like a proper grown ass person. He's an entertainer and just because he has a large audience doesn't mean he has any obligation, outside of youtube's policies, to behave a certain way for the sake of the children.

Also, you never did say what part of TB's political opinions make you think you wouldn't like him.

I agree that he doesn't have an obligation. But I think there's a case to be made for the responsibility that comes with being a public figure. I don't think there's a black and white answer. And about TB:

Grischnak posted...
Let me take a shot at this: He heard someone on Twitter mention some vague s*** about TB being anti-SJW during Gamergate and he's too lazy to look up TBs actual role in Gamergate so he just assumes TB was a racist, misogynist piece of s***. Of course that's bulls*** but there seems to be plenty of people that think that way.

Pretty much this but with less preconceived notions. I've seen people talk about how he was involved with GamerGate, and I'm making the guess that I'd disagree with him. Maybe it's a bit much to say I would dislike him. In the end, he made a lot of content that I'm just not interested in, so I'm not going to make an effort. And I'll happily just assume that he was a decent human being who deserves enough respect in his passing to not warrant the kind of vitriol described in the OP.

I dunno, my whole point to begin with with that comment was that even though I would probably be a staunch opposer to him (supposing that all the accusations have even some merit), I really really disagree with these kinds of comments. I'm sorry that you're getting hung up on my guess that I wouldn't like TB. Maybe I would, I really have no strong grasp of who he was.
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Darmik
05/28/18 3:50:09 AM
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IIRC he said that the death threats made towards Anita weren't a big deal because she isn't dead and was pretty aggressive towards her in general but I think that's about as far as it went.

The issue when popular people on social media is that when they attack someone online their followers naturally dogpile on them and make the situation worse. The Bioware guy alluded to that happening to him. This happened a lot during Gamergate especially.

I'm not saying TotalBiscuit is solely to blame for that but a lot of users on social media often overlook the consequences for replying and retweeting people they disagree with and dislike when they have a huge following.
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Grischnak
05/28/18 4:06:31 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
Pretty much this but with less preconceived notions. I've seen people talk about how he was involved with GamerGate, and I'm making the guess that I'd disagree with him.


TBs main arguing point when it came Gamergate was basically:

1) Video game journalists should actually behave like journalists and knock off the shady shit

I don't really see how anyone could have a problem with that. He didn't really argue about the gender stuff much at all. He seemed to consider that mostly a distraction from the real issue(corruption in games media).

Darmik posted...
IIRC he said that the death threats made towards Anita weren't a big deal because she isn't dead and was pretty aggressive towards her in general but I think that's about as far as it went.

The issue when popular people on social media is that when they attack someone online their followers naturally dogpile on them and make the situation worse. The Bioware guy alluded to that happening to him. This happened a lot during Gamergate especially.

I'm not saying TotalBiscuit is solely to blame for that but a lot of users on social media often overlook the consequences for replying and retweeting people they disagree with and dislike when they have a huge following.


Aggressive towards her? LOL. You've got it backwards The GG crowd went after TB like lunatics despite him doing very little. He's the one that got most of vitriol spewed at him. Even years later. For example, know what Brianna Wu's reaction was to TBs death? "HAHAHAHA". ...Yeah. What a morally upstanding group... <_<
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scar the 1
05/28/18 4:10:36 AM
#91:


Grischnak posted...
TBs main arguing point when it came Gamergate was basically:

1) Video game journalists should actually behave like journalists and knock off the shady s***

I don't really see how anyone could have a problem with that. He didn't really argue about the gender stuff much at all. He seemed to consider that mostly a distraction from the real issue(corruption in games media).

OK. I'm sorry but I don't really care. Whatever his stance on GamerGate, I'm not gonna try and defame him or quote him or anything. You don't have to defend him or make him look better in my eyes. I have no opinion of him, just a hum of roughly where I might have categorized him, had I followed him at all.
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Grischnak
05/28/18 4:22:25 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
Grischnak posted...
TBs main arguing point when it came Gamergate was basically:

1) Video game journalists should actually behave like journalists and knock off the shady s***

I don't really see how anyone could have a problem with that. He didn't really argue about the gender stuff much at all. He seemed to consider that mostly a distraction from the real issue(corruption in games media).

OK. I'm sorry but I don't really care. Whatever his stance on GamerGate, I'm not gonna try and defame him or quote him or anything. You don't have to defend him or make him look better in my eyes. I have no opinion of him, just a hum of roughly where I might have categorized him, had I followed him at all.


So you don't care about what he actually thought, you just think you'd probably dislike him because he's one of *those people* and that's that? Well, I can't say you're not honest. Props for that. Though I can't applaud such a tribalistic view of the world.
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scar the 1
05/28/18 4:24:08 AM
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Grischnak posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Grischnak posted...
TBs main arguing point when it came Gamergate was basically:

1) Video game journalists should actually behave like journalists and knock off the shady s***

I don't really see how anyone could have a problem with that. He didn't really argue about the gender stuff much at all. He seemed to consider that mostly a distraction from the real issue(corruption in games media).

OK. I'm sorry but I don't really care. Whatever his stance on GamerGate, I'm not gonna try and defame him or quote him or anything. You don't have to defend him or make him look better in my eyes. I have no opinion of him, just a hum of roughly where I might have categorized him, had I followed him at all.


So you don't care about what he actually thought, you just think you'd probably dislike him because he's one of *those people* and that's that? Well, I can't say you're not honest. Props for that. Though I can't applaud such a tribalistic view of the world.

hm

scar the 1 posted...
Maybe it's a bit much to say I would dislike him. In the end, he made a lot of content that I'm just not interested in, so I'm not going to make an effort. And I'll happily just assume that he was a decent human being who deserves enough respect in his passing to not warrant the kind of vitriol described in the OP.

I dunno, my whole point to begin with with that comment was that even though I would probably be a staunch opposer to him (supposing that all the accusations have even some merit), I really really disagree with these kinds of comments. I'm sorry that you're getting hung up on my guess that I wouldn't like TB. Maybe I would, I really have no strong grasp of who he was.

At this point it really feels like you're actively looking for something to take issue with.
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Grischnak
05/28/18 4:43:15 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
Grischnak posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Grischnak posted...
TBs main arguing point when it came Gamergate was basically:

1) Video game journalists should actually behave like journalists and knock off the shady s***

I don't really see how anyone could have a problem with that. He didn't really argue about the gender stuff much at all. He seemed to consider that mostly a distraction from the real issue(corruption in games media).

OK. I'm sorry but I don't really care. Whatever his stance on GamerGate, I'm not gonna try and defame him or quote him or anything. You don't have to defend him or make him look better in my eyes. I have no opinion of him, just a hum of roughly where I might have categorized him, had I followed him at all.


So you don't care about what he actually thought, you just think you'd probably dislike him because he's one of *those people* and that's that? Well, I can't say you're not honest. Props for that. Though I can't applaud such a tribalistic view of the world.

hm

scar the 1 posted...
Maybe it's a bit much to say I would dislike him. In the end, he made a lot of content that I'm just not interested in, so I'm not going to make an effort. And I'll happily just assume that he was a decent human being who deserves enough respect in his passing to not warrant the kind of vitriol described in the OP.

I dunno, my whole point to begin with with that comment was that even though I would probably be a staunch opposer to him (supposing that all the accusations have even some merit), I really really disagree with these kinds of comments. I'm sorry that you're getting hung up on my guess that I wouldn't like TB. Maybe I would, I really have no strong grasp of who he was.

At this point it really feels like you're actively looking for something to take issue with.

I made my issues with your posts clear. I can change my wording from dislike to disagree if you think that's more accurate but that changes little when it comes to my overall point.
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05/28/18 4:46:48 AM
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Sound like this TotalBiscuit guy was a bit of a douche but this BioWare guy sounds like a complete a**hole
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scar the 1
05/28/18 4:56:56 AM
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Grischnak posted...
I made my issues with your posts clear. I can change my wording from dislike to disagree if you think that's more accurate but that changes little when it comes to my overall point.

Well then, I'm sorry you're so distraught by my preconceived notion that I happily admit could be wrong.
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Esrac
05/28/18 5:27:03 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
Grischnak posted...
I made my issues with your posts clear. I can change my wording from dislike to disagree if you think that's more accurate but that changes little when it comes to my overall point.

Well then, I'm sorry you're so distraught by my preconceived notion that I happily admit could be wrong.


You said you think you'd dislike him based on his political opinions, but you haven't referenced any. Being associated with or a supporter of Gamergate says very little about one's political opinions.

That was largely my gripe with your post. How're you going to say your dislike the guy when you don't know anything about him?
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scar the 1
05/28/18 5:30:36 AM
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Esrac posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Grischnak posted...
I made my issues with your posts clear. I can change my wording from dislike to disagree if you think that's more accurate but that changes little when it comes to my overall point.

Well then, I'm sorry you're so distraught by my preconceived notion that I happily admit could be wrong.


You said you think you'd dislike him based on his political opinions, but you haven't referenced any. Being associated with or a supporter of Gamergate says very little about one's political opinions.

That was largely my gripe with your post. How're you going to say your dislike the guy when you don't know anything about him?

Let's rephrase it to "the political opinions I assume he has based on some comments I've seen about which side he was on in the GamerGate debacle" then :)
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Esrac
05/28/18 5:36:57 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
Esrac posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Grischnak posted...
I made my issues with your posts clear. I can change my wording from dislike to disagree if you think that's more accurate but that changes little when it comes to my overall point.

Well then, I'm sorry you're so distraught by my preconceived notion that I happily admit could be wrong.


You said you think you'd dislike him based on his political opinions, but you haven't referenced any. Being associated with or a supporter of Gamergate says very little about one's political opinions.

That was largely my gripe with your post. How're you going to say your dislike the guy when you don't know anything about him?

Let's rephrase it to "the political opinions I assume he has based on some comments I've seen about which side he was on in the GamerGate debacle" then :)


Like I said, being on the pro-Gamergate side says little about one's political opinions in general.

TB didn't seem to talk about political stuff much. But if you're the left leaning type, then you should be pleased that he was outraged over the Trump victory in the presidential election and chewed out an audience member who asked "Are traps gay?" during a Q&A.
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garan
05/28/18 5:37:38 AM
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Yet another disgusting pile of shit that worked for Bioware. Sad to see what has become of that company.
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