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RchHomieQuanChi
05/16/18 11:21:09 AM
#52:


Howl posted...
Dr. Strange could have prevented Thanos from ever acquiring any of the other stones by just reversing time the minute he learned that Thanos had any of them.


lolwut? That's not how the time stone works.
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pikachupwnage
05/16/18 11:28:03 AM
#53:


Howl posted...
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"There's only a few lines of dialogue in the movie that even remotely attempt to explain his backstory which is literally just his home planet got destroyed."

That's a simplification.

Did you miss all the stuff with Gamora? Do you have severe narcolepsy or are you just a shitty troll?


The stuff with Gamora doesn't at all explain Thano's back story. It explains hers not his.


Its almost like their Backstories are connected because Thanos is the biggest part of Gamoras backstory...
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mario2000
05/16/18 11:30:39 AM
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good to know tc has terrible opinions on movies along with being a redhat
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
05/16/18 1:24:57 PM
#55:


Howl posted...
Why didn't Dr.Strange use the time stone to reverse time and prevent Thanos from getting the power stone and space stone the minute he discovered he was after the stones and that he already had those 2? It's clearly established in The Dr.Strange movie that he's capable of it.
There's nothing in Doctor Strange or Infinity War which suggests the Time Stone by itself can affect time on anything more than a local scale. Even in DS, everything Stephen did with it was in his immediate physical surroundings. It's only when all the Stones are gathered together that their full power is accessed.

Why didn't Thanos just straight teleport to Earth and take the Mind Stone from Vision? He already knew exactly where it was and he can clearly teleport.
Because he knew EXACTLY where it was. The entire point of sending Corvus & Proxima to Scotland was to try and get the Mind Stone, just like sending Maw and Cull to New York City was an attempt to get the Time Stone. Maw nearly succeeded and left Earth (leaving Cull behind), but Corvus, Proxima, and now Cull stayed behind to try again. In any event, Thanos either knew (from them communicating with him) or assumed (because Earth has no interstellar travel capacity) that the Mind Stone was still on Earth, hence he could focus on retrieving the others first and simply use the Space Stone to go there whenever he wanted.
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PhazonReborn
05/16/18 1:26:35 PM
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Irony posted...
ok

SavenForever posted...
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Howl
05/16/18 8:30:03 PM
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Murphiroth posted...


And the Dr. Strange movie also establishes that fucking with time to that degree could be potentially catastrophic.


It literally doesn't. In fact the movie establishes the exact opposite. The entire point was that the Ancient One was wrong about time manipulation. That's the reason that Strange used it to no negative consequence at all.
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dave_is_slick
05/16/18 8:33:49 PM
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Howl posted...
Murphiroth posted...


And the Dr. Strange movie also establishes that fucking with time to that degree could be potentially catastrophic.


It literally doesn't. In fact the movie establishes the exact opposite. The entire point was that the Ancient One was wrong about time manipulation. That's the reason that Strange used it to no negative consequence at all.

You're trolling. Hell, it could be argued that Thanos winning is because he used the Time Gem back then. That's kinda the thing about unintended consequences.
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Terra-enforcer
05/16/18 8:34:59 PM
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The OP shows that you weren't paying attention well AT ALL so I'm not so sure you're the best to make this sort of complaint lol. It has issues, but the things listed in the OP are flat out bad complaints since those are surprisingly some of the few points that are explained well.
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008Zulu
05/17/18 10:29:33 PM
#60:


Howl posted...
008Zulu posted...
Howl posted...
All of this should have been completely irrelevant, because there's absolutely no reason that Strange shouldn't have just used the time stone to stop Thanos from getting all the stones the moment he knew that he had already gotten some of them.

Time travel is as only as precise as the knowledge of where you want to go. Even so, how would he have traveled all over the Universe, gathering up the stones before Thanos could find them? The Sling Ring might allow travel between two points, but it has never been specified what the maximum distance between those two points is.


He can literally just freeze time at will. He can also reverse time at will. Apparently he was doing his time rewinds with Dormammu for thousands of years. There's no reason he wouldn't be able to stop Thanos.

How would reversing time help? Strange still wouldn't know where or when Thanos got his hands on the other stones.
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Darmik
05/17/18 10:34:21 PM
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Strange should reverse time to....do what exactly?
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Howl
05/17/18 10:45:09 PM
#62:


008Zulu posted...
Howl posted...
008Zulu posted...
Howl posted...
All of this should have been completely irrelevant, because there's absolutely no reason that Strange shouldn't have just used the time stone to stop Thanos from getting all the stones the moment he knew that he had already gotten some of them.

Time travel is as only as precise as the knowledge of where you want to go. Even so, how would he have traveled all over the Universe, gathering up the stones before Thanos could find them? The Sling Ring might allow travel between two points, but it has never been specified what the maximum distance between those two points is.


He can literally just freeze time at will. He can also reverse time at will. Apparently he was doing his time rewinds with Dormammu for thousands of years. There's no reason he wouldn't be able to stop Thanos.

How would reversing time help? Strange still wouldn't know where or when Thanos got his hands on the other stones.


He could reverse time over and over until he found out and then just take them himself instead.
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Darmik
05/17/18 10:48:37 PM
#63:


Howl posted...
He could reverse time over and over until he found out and then just take them himself instead.


Found out what? When? Where? How?
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ToadallyAwesome
05/17/18 10:49:29 PM
#64:


Howl posted...
Murphiroth posted...


And the Dr. Strange movie also establishes that fucking with time to that degree could be potentially catastrophic.


It literally doesn't. In fact the movie establishes the exact opposite. The entire point was that the Ancient One was wrong about time manipulation. That's the reason that Strange used it to no negative consequence at all.


So this post just confirms you have a hard time conveying concepts about what you watch.

The Ancient One tapped into Dormammus power to stay alive longer than she should be able to. Thus being seen as hypocrital

Until Doctor Strange used the Eye of Agamotto (Time Stone) in his movie all the other sorcerers didnt dare use it because of the burden of knowledge of what using could cause. Mordo and Wong talk about the side effects when he tries it the first time. And Mordo again doesnt like that the time stone is used at the Hong Kong sanctum. Believing it could break time.

Also in Doctor Stange, like many other users have pointed out, that the time stone has a range of effect. So your main argument is void.

You didnt like the movie. Based on how you have carried on. The series might not be for you if you have to dissect it this deep.
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orangefire25
05/17/18 10:51:52 PM
#65:


Lol TC give up
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Howl
05/17/18 10:57:36 PM
#66:


Darmik posted...
Howl posted...
He could reverse time over and over until he found out and then just take them himself instead.


Found out what? When? Where? How?


Found out where all the stones are. Jesus Christ. Lol
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Darmik
05/17/18 10:58:31 PM
#67:


Howl posted...
Darmik posted...
Howl posted...
He could reverse time over and over until he found out and then just take them himself instead.


Found out what? When? Where? How?


Found out where all the stones are. Jesus Christ. Lol


And how would reversing time help him do that?
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Howl
05/17/18 11:01:00 PM
#68:


Darmik posted...
Howl posted...
Darmik posted...
Howl posted...
He could reverse time over and over until he found out and then just take them himself instead.


Found out what? When? Where? How?


Found out where all the stones are. Jesus Christ. Lol


And how would reversing time help him do that?


How would it not? He would have infinte time to find them. He can literally just freeze time.
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Howl
05/17/18 11:01:52 PM
#69:


ToadallyAwesome posted...
Howl posted...
Murphiroth posted...


And the Dr. Strange movie also establishes that fucking with time to that degree could be potentially catastrophic.


It literally doesn't. In fact the movie establishes the exact opposite. The entire point was that the Ancient One was wrong about time manipulation. That's the reason that Strange used it to no negative consequence at all.


So this post just confirms you have a hard time conveying concepts about what you watch.

The Ancient One tapped into Dormammus power to stay alive longer than she should be able to. Thus being seen as hypocrital

Until Doctor Strange used the Eye of Agamotto (Time Stone) in his movie all the other sorcerers didnt dare use it because of the burden of knowledge of what using could cause. Mordo and Wong talk about the side effects when he tries it the first time. And Mordo again doesnt like that the time stone is used at the Hong Kong sanctum. Believing it could break time.

Also in Doctor Stange, like many other users have pointed out, that the time stone has a range of effect. So your main argument is void.

You didnt like the movie. Based on how you have carried on. The series might not be for you if you have to dissect it this deep.


There's nothing at all in either movie that suggests that the time stone has a limited range.
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Darmik
05/17/18 11:02:04 PM
#70:


Howl posted...
Darmik posted...
Howl posted...
Darmik posted...
Howl posted...
He could reverse time over and over until he found out and then just take them himself instead.


Found out what? When? Where? How?


Found out where all the stones are. Jesus Christ. Lol


And how would reversing time help him do that?


How would it not? He would have infinte time to find them. He can literally just freeze time.


Freeze time...and do what? Most of the time stones weren't even on Earth.
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Howl
05/17/18 11:04:40 PM
#71:


Darmik posted...
Howl posted...
Darmik posted...
Howl posted...
Darmik posted...
Howl posted...
He could reverse time over and over until he found out and then just take them himself instead.


Found out what? When? Where? How?


Found out where all the stones are. Jesus Christ. Lol


And how would reversing time help him do that?


How would it not? He would have infinte time to find them. He can literally just freeze time.


Freeze time...and do what? Most of the time stones weren't even on Earth.


He could find them. He would literally have infinte time to do so.
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Darmik
05/17/18 11:06:36 PM
#72:


Howl posted...
Darmik posted...
Howl posted...
Darmik posted...
Howl posted...
Darmik posted...
Howl posted...
He could reverse time over and over until he found out and then just take them himself instead.


Found out what? When? Where? How?


Found out where all the stones are. Jesus Christ. Lol


And how would reversing time help him do that?


How would it not? He would have infinte time to find them. He can literally just freeze time.


Freeze time...and do what? Most of the time stones weren't even on Earth.


He could find them. He would literally have infinte time to do so.


FInd them how!

Strange finds out minutes before those ships arrive.

Explain in detail what Strange should have done with the time stone to get the other 5 stones and stop Thanos.
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Howl
05/17/18 11:09:25 PM
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Reverse and or Freeze time, teleport planet to planet until he finds them. Take them all. How much simpler does this have to be? You're acting like this is even remotely difficult to understand. He literally wouldn't even have to teleport to every planet. He can ask people he knows or find people who might know to ask them questions about them as well.
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Darmik
05/17/18 11:10:33 PM
#74:


Howl posted...
Reverse and or Freeze time, teleport planet to planet until he finds them. Take them all. How much simpler does this have to be? You're acting like this is even remotely difficult to understand.


Since when can Strange teleport to different planets?

Since when has Strange been able to freeze time for an unlimited duration?
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Howl
05/17/18 11:13:10 PM
#75:


Darmik posted...
Howl posted...
Reverse and or Freeze time, teleport planet to planet until he finds them. Take them all. How much simpler does this have to be? You're acting like this is even remotely difficult to understand.


Since when can Strange teleport to different planets?

Since when has Strange been able to freeze time for an unlimited duration?


He wouldn't even need to freeze time infinitely. He could just keep reversing time as he progressed. He could let the actual time that progressed be literally a few seconds. Just long enough for him to grab it teleport to the next one and grab that. I don't think you really understand the concept of infinity. There's nothing that suggest that he cant teleport to other planets either.
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dave_is_slick
05/17/18 11:15:03 PM
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Never have I seen someone so wrong double down so fucking much on being wrong.
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soulunison2
05/17/18 11:16:19 PM
#77:


I agree with the opinion that Deadpool 2 is 100 Times better than infinity war but tc is just being nitpicky
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Darmik
05/17/18 11:16:49 PM
#78:


Howl posted...
He wouldn't even need to freeze time infinitely. He could just keep reversing time as he progressed.


When did he show he could do this in either movie?

Howl posted...
There's nothing that suggest that he cant teleport to other planets either.


The fact that he sits in a spaceship for most of Infinity War wasn't a clue?
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ToadallyAwesome
05/17/18 11:17:30 PM
#79:


Howl posted...
ToadallyAwesome posted...
Howl posted...
Murphiroth posted...


And the Dr. Strange movie also establishes that fucking with time to that degree could be potentially catastrophic.


It literally doesn't. In fact the movie establishes the exact opposite. The entire point was that the Ancient One was wrong about time manipulation. That's the reason that Strange used it to no negative consequence at all.


So this post just confirms you have a hard time conveying concepts about what you watch.

The Ancient One tapped into Dormammus power to stay alive longer than she should be able to. Thus being seen as hypocrital

Until Doctor Strange used the Eye of Agamotto (Time Stone) in his movie all the other sorcerers didnt dare use it because of the burden of knowledge of what using could cause. Mordo and Wong talk about the side effects when he tries it the first time. And Mordo again doesnt like that the time stone is used at the Hong Kong sanctum. Believing it could break time.

Also in Doctor Stange, like many other users have pointed out, that the time stone has a range of effect. So your main argument is void.

You didnt like the movie. Based on how you have carried on. The series might not be for you if you have to dissect it this deep.


There's nothing at all in either movie that suggests that the time stone has a limited range.


Except Doctor Strange does. Multiple times. But again you continue to show how poor your comprehension skills are.

By all means continue being dense
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Howl
05/17/18 11:18:40 PM
#80:


dave_is_slick posted...
Never have I seen someone so wrong double down so fucking much on being wrong.


Make an argument against what I've said itt. Strange literally could have reveresed time teleported planet to planet and collected all the infinty stones. What happened in either movie that suggests that this isn't possible? Strange is willing to sacrifice himself and half the population to secure a reality where Thanos ultimately loses, but he just wasn't willinv to do what I suggested? I don't buy it.
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Howl
05/17/18 11:19:24 PM
#81:


ToadallyAwesome posted...
Howl posted...
ToadallyAwesome posted...
Howl posted...
Murphiroth posted...


And the Dr. Strange movie also establishes that fucking with time to that degree could be potentially catastrophic.


It literally doesn't. In fact the movie establishes the exact opposite. The entire point was that the Ancient One was wrong about time manipulation. That's the reason that Strange used it to no negative consequence at all.


So this post just confirms you have a hard time conveying concepts about what you watch.

The Ancient One tapped into Dormammus power to stay alive longer than she should be able to. Thus being seen as hypocrital

Until Doctor Strange used the Eye of Agamotto (Time Stone) in his movie all the other sorcerers didnt dare use it because of the burden of knowledge of what using could cause. Mordo and Wong talk about the side effects when he tries it the first time. And Mordo again doesnt like that the time stone is used at the Hong Kong sanctum. Believing it could break time.

Also in Doctor Stange, like many other users have pointed out, that the time stone has a range of effect. So your main argument is void.

You didnt like the movie. Based on how you have carried on. The series might not be for you if you have to dissect it this deep.


There's nothing at all in either movie that suggests that the time stone has a limited range.


Except Doctor Strange does. Multiple times. But again you continue to show how poor your comprehension skills are.

By all means continue being dense


When? Give a specific example.
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dave_is_slick
05/17/18 11:21:09 PM
#82:


Howl posted...
Make an argument against what I've said itt. Strange literally could have reveresed time teleported planet to planet and collected all the infinty stones. What happened in either movie that suggests that this isn't possible?

Fucking wizards breaking out of the time freeze. Jesus fucking christ.

Also:
dave_is_slick posted...
Hell, it could be argued that Thanos winning is because he used the Time Gem back then. That's kinda the thing about unintended consequences.

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IMNOTRAGED
05/17/18 11:22:44 PM
#83:


Howl posted...
When? Give a specific example.


You're the one making assertions that he should've done things that he's never been shown to be capable of in the MCU. The burden of proof is on you.
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Howl
05/17/18 11:26:07 PM
#84:


dave_is_slick posted...
Howl posted...
Make an argument against what I've said itt. Strange literally could have reveresed time teleported planet to planet and collected all the infinty stones. What happened in either movie that suggests that this isn't possible?

Fucking wizards breaking out of the time freeze. Jesus fucking christ.

Also:
dave_is_slick posted...
Hell, it could be argued that Thanos winning is because he used the Time Gem back then. That's kinda the thing about unintended consequences.


It was made blatantly apparent that in the first movie Starnge hadn't perfected the harnessing of the stone. He fought Dormammu for thousands of years perfecting his skills. There's nothing that suggests that was a limit to the stones power but that it was Stranges inability to harnass it. You can see this very clearly as he was struggling to use it in the first movie.
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Darmik
05/17/18 11:27:35 PM
#85:


Howl posted...

It was made blatantly apparent that in the first movie Starnge hadn't perfected the harnessing of the stone. He fought Dormammu for thousands of years perfected his skills. There's nothing that suggests that was a limit to the stones power but that it was Stranges inability to harnass it. You can see this very clearly as he was struggling to use it in the first movie.


What? He basically kept running into the same wall over and over until Dormammu had enough. I don't think anything in the movie states that he was suddenly a time stone master with no limits.
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Howl
05/17/18 11:29:43 PM
#86:


Darmik posted...
Howl posted...

It was made blatantly apparent that in the first movie Starnge hadn't perfected the harnessing of the stone. He fought Dormammu for thousands of years perfected his skills. There's nothing that suggests that was a limit to the stones power but that it was Stranges inability to harnass it. You can see this very clearly as he was struggling to use it in the first movie.


What? He basically kept running into the same wall over and over until Dormammu had enough. I don't think anything in the movie states that he was suddenly a time stone master with no limits.


From one of the writers directly...

https://twitter.com/Massawyrm/status/983813143263662080
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Darmik
05/17/18 11:38:25 PM
#87:


Howl posted...
Darmik posted...
Howl posted...

It was made blatantly apparent that in the first movie Starnge hadn't perfected the harnessing of the stone. He fought Dormammu for thousands of years perfected his skills. There's nothing that suggests that was a limit to the stones power but that it was Stranges inability to harnass it. You can see this very clearly as he was struggling to use it in the first movie.


What? He basically kept running into the same wall over and over until Dormammu had enough. I don't think anything in the movie states that he was suddenly a time stone master with no limits.


From one of the writers directly...

https://twitter.com/Massawyrm/status/983813143263662080


I don't see anything there that states he can now control time to an infinite measure.

It's like saying a man who has mastered his body should be able to eat the planet.
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Howl
05/17/18 11:39:32 PM
#88:


Darmik posted...
Howl posted...
Darmik posted...
Howl posted...

It was made blatantly apparent that in the first movie Starnge hadn't perfected the harnessing of the stone. He fought Dormammu for thousands of years perfected his skills. There's nothing that suggests that was a limit to the stones power but that it was Stranges inability to harnass it. You can see this very clearly as he was struggling to use it in the first movie.


What? He basically kept running into the same wall over and over until Dormammu had enough. I don't think anything in the movie states that he was suddenly a time stone master with no limits.


From one of the writers directly...

https://twitter.com/Massawyrm/status/983813143263662080


I don't see anything there that states he can now control time to an infinite measure.

It's like saying a man who has mastered his body should be able to eat the planet.


wut
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Darmik
05/17/18 11:41:33 PM
#89:


Howl posted...
Darmik posted...
Howl posted...
Darmik posted...
Howl posted...

It was made blatantly apparent that in the first movie Starnge hadn't perfected the harnessing of the stone. He fought Dormammu for thousands of years perfected his skills. There's nothing that suggests that was a limit to the stones power but that it was Stranges inability to harnass it. You can see this very clearly as he was struggling to use it in the first movie.


What? He basically kept running into the same wall over and over until Dormammu had enough. I don't think anything in the movie states that he was suddenly a time stone master with no limits.


From one of the writers directly...

https://twitter.com/Massawyrm/status/983813143263662080


I don't see anything there that states he can now control time to an infinite measure.

It's like saying a man who has mastered his body should be able to eat the planet.


wut


Exactly. You're making this wild leap of an assumption that isn't based on anything in any of these movies.

Constantly being squashed by Dormammu in the dark dimension for thousands of years doesn't somehow mean he now can freeze time for an unlimited duration against people like Thanos and teleport to different planets. I don't know what makes you think this.
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Howl
05/17/18 11:45:11 PM
#90:


Darmik posted...
Howl posted...
Darmik posted...
Howl posted...
Darmik posted...
Howl posted...

It was made blatantly apparent that in the first movie Starnge hadn't perfected the harnessing of the stone. He fought Dormammu for thousands of years perfected his skills. There's nothing that suggests that was a limit to the stones power but that it was Stranges inability to harnass it. You can see this very clearly as he was struggling to use it in the first movie.


What? He basically kept running into the same wall over and over until Dormammu had enough. I don't think anything in the movie states that he was suddenly a time stone master with no limits.


From one of the writers directly...

https://twitter.com/Massawyrm/status/983813143263662080


I don't see anything there that states he can now control time to an infinite measure.

It's like saying a man who has mastered his body should be able to eat the planet.


wut


Exactly. You're making this wild leap of an assumption that isn't based on anything in any of these movies.

Constantly being squashed by Dormammu in the dark dimension for thousands of years doesn't somehow mean he now can freeze time for an unlimited duration against people like Thanos and teleport to different planets. I don't know what makes you think this.


Well the fact that the time stone is literally called an infinity stone suggests alone that it can freeze and or reverse or manipulate time infinitely. Infinity as a concept literally suugests that Dr.Strange could literally do anything with infinite time. There's absolutely no reason to suggest that he can't just reverse time just to practice harnassing its power specifically.
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Darmik
05/17/18 11:48:19 PM
#91:


Howl posted...
Well the fact that the time stone is literally called an infinity stone suggests alone that it can freeze and or reverse or manipulate time infinitely. Infinity as a concept literally suugests that Dr.Strange could literally do anything with infinite time. There's absolutely no reason to suggest that he can't just reverse time just to practice harnassing its power specifically.</


So does that mean I have infinite Mind with the Mind Stone. Infinite Space with the Space Stone. Infinite Reality with the Reality Stone. Infinite Power with the Power stone.

Or maybe you taking the name literally doesn't mean a thing. Because there's nothing to suggest in any of these movies that any of these assumptions are true. Even Thanos with several stones had some clear limitations.
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Howl
05/17/18 11:50:06 PM
#92:


Darmik posted...
Howl posted...
Well the fact that the time stone is literally called an infinity stone suggests alone that it can freeze and or reverse or manipulate time infinitely. Infinity as a concept literally suugests that Dr.Strange could literally do anything with infinite time. There's absolutely no reason to suggest that he can't just reverse time just to practice harnassing its power specifically.</


So does that mean I have unlimited Mind with the Mind Stone. Unlimited Space with the Space Stone. Infinite Reality with the Reality Stone. Unlimited Power with the Power stone.

Or maybe you taking the name literally doesn't mean a thing. Because there's nothing to suggest in any of these movies that any of these assumptions are true. Even Thanos with several stones had some clear limitations.


What were those limitations exactly? Where were they made clear?
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Dampproof
05/17/18 11:57:05 PM
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Or just accept that of the 14 million possible outcomes Strange also considered doing just that.

There was only 1 way they could win and it was to give Thanos the Time Gem.
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Darmik
05/17/18 11:57:11 PM
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Howl posted...
What were those limitations exactly? Where were they made clear?


Vision clearly doesn't have an infinite mind. Otherwise he would know every solution to every problem instantly
Thanos clearly can't do whatever he wants with the reality stone. Everything he did with it was either an illusion or temporary. Otherwise he could simply make the other stones a reality in front of him using it. That's the kind of nonsense you're assuming these stones can do.

Like were you expecting a spreadsheet? Most of this shit is common sense. If they can't do whatever the fuck they want then clearly it's because they can't. This isn't hard.
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Howl
05/18/18 12:02:07 AM
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Darmik posted...
Howl posted...
What were those limitations exactly? Where were they made clear?


Vision clearly doesn't have an infinite mind. Otherwise he would know every solution to every problem instantly
Thanos clearly can't do whatever he wants with the reality stone. Everything he did with it was either an illusion or temporary. Otherwise he could simply make the other stones a reality in front of him using it. That's the kind of nonsense you're assuming these stones can do.

Like were you expecting a spreadsheet? Most of this shit is common sense. If they can't do whatever the fuck they want then clearly it's because they can't. This isn't hard.


That was one of the first suggestions I made in this movie and there's nothing that suggests he couldn't just do that in it.

Your comment of "if they can't do whatever the fuck they want it's clearly just because they can't, isn't a product of the lore established within the movies at all and certainly not within the comics. It's a product of bad writing and nothing more.
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Darmik
05/18/18 12:04:05 AM
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Howl posted...
Your comment of "if they can't do whatever the f*** they want it's clearly just because they can't, isn't a product of the lore established within the movies at all and certainly not within the comics. It's a product of bad writing and nothing more.


Man how do you enjoy any of these movies then.

"Why didn't Hulk just keep getting angry until he won. What? There's nothing to say he can't!"

And yes unless these movies establish infinite abilities as part of the lore they aren't. Nowhere in these movies does it state any of the stuff you're stating was possible.
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Howl
05/18/18 12:13:30 AM
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Darmik posted...
Howl posted...
Your comment of "if they can't do whatever the f*** they want it's clearly just because they can't, isn't a product of the lore established within the movies at all and certainly not within the comics. It's a product of bad writing and nothing more.


Man how do you enjoy any of these movies then.

"Why didn't Hulk just keep getting angry until he won. What? There's nothing to say he can't!"

And yes unless these movies establish infinite abilities as part of the lore they aren't. Nowhere in these movies does it state any of the stuff you're stating was possible.


Watch this. It explains the concept of the infinty stones and their power, and it should make you realize just how ridiculous it is to suggest that Thanos or Dr.Strange couldn't do everything I've said itt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z9fReGWArU" data-time="

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Darmik
05/18/18 12:18:26 AM
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lol I'm not watching a YouTube video because you get confused about the logic in a movie.

What else is bad writing?

Does it upset you that Darth Vader/Jedi don't just force choke all of their enemies from a long distance?

Why Spider-man ever gets hit by anything because of his Spider-sense?

Why Magneto just doesn't just use his abilities to destroy all of the cities around the world all at once?

I mean if it's never stated why can't these characters do these things so it must be because of bad writing.
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008Zulu
05/18/18 12:20:47 AM
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Howl posted...
He could reverse time over and over until he found out and then just take them himself instead.

Again, how?
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Howl
05/18/18 12:26:21 AM
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Darmik posted...
lol I'm not watching a YouTube video because you get confused about the logic in a movie.

What else is bad writing?

Does it upset you that Darth Vader/Jedi don't just force choke all of their enemies from a long distance?

Why Spider-man ever gets hit by anything because of his Spider-sense?

Why Magneto just doesn't just use his abilities to destroy all of the cities around the world all at once?

I mean if it's never stated why can't these characters do these things so it must be because of bad writing.


"I don't care to understand rational arguments made that refute the logic in a movie because that would make me realize that I'm wrong."

The difference in all the examples you gave and this movie is that they all actually explain the reasons why all the characters in all those movies can't do those things. This movie doesn't.

Everything about the lore of the infinity stones in this movie and especially in the comic books suggests that they can do all the things I've suggested though.
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Darmik
05/18/18 12:29:27 AM
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Howl posted...
The difference in all the examples you gave and this movie is that they all actually explain the reasons why all the characters in all those movies can't do those things. This movie doesn't.


When? Why didn't Vader just choke out all of his enemies from a long distance? Movie never states that he can't. We see him choke out an officer over the video. But he can't just choke out Luke when he sees him? He can't just choke him out over a distance when he senses him?

See how silly this argument is? You have to assume things to make it into an issue.

Howl posted...
Everything about the lore of the infinity stones in this movie and especially in the comic books suggests that they can do all the things I've suggested though.


Nothing in the movies suggest they have unlimited power and comic book lore isn't relevant and doesn't set the rules for this universe.
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