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nicklebro
05/15/18 5:02:31 AM
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...

Yeah, I wouldnt blame DREAMers or most the parents. Mexico and Central America is corrupt as fuck. It is a risk when my family goes back to their home country it is so dangerous. That is one thing the right needs to be clear on to win the debate is that it isnt there fault, but it also isnt Americas responsibility to take tons of non skilled workers blindly unlike hypocriteslike the Mexican govt. who treat people who cross into their borders horribly.

The thing is that we actually need more unskilled laborers in this country because Americans absolutely refuse to do the kind of work that the immigrants end up doing. For as much as conservatives cry about illegal immigrants being on food stamps and living in section 8 housing (none of which is true) fact is that America benefits monetarily from immigrants (documented and undocumented). Basically none of the main arguments against letting inmigrants into our country are legitimate.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
05/15/18 7:06:53 AM
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Esrac posted...
Not really relevant if the Dreamer in question is still residing within the US illegally.

By definition, a DREAMer was someone that the US agreed to legally recognize.
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DarthWendy
05/15/18 7:12:30 AM
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StarLightGlimmR posted...
Times were different back then.

Obviously.
Historical context matters.
HCM.
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KStateKing17
05/15/18 7:13:40 AM
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That fivehead tho
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Iwin2013
05/15/18 7:28:52 AM
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Shuto-uke posted...
Iwin2013 posted...
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Esrac posted...
but she isn't responsible for their actions

DREAMers aren't responsible for the actions of their parents, yet Racists and Xenophobes like Tomi Lahren want to kick out law-abiding DREAMers.


You DO understand that they are here to send money towards their families in other countries?


You DO understand that some packages that say steel cut oatmeal have oats that aren't truly steel cut? See? I can also bring up extraneous shit to change topics.

It's not like they ALL send ALL the money back anyway, they have to survive and that involves spending money here. You're also confusing DREAMers with the more garden variety illegal who is still in touch with his relatives back in the ancestral homeland, most of a DREAMer's life is here.


Not true at all; You dont think they still have a relative or two left there?
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tennisdude818
05/15/18 7:37:09 AM
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We didnt have a welfare state in the 1800s. You can have a welfare state, or you can have borders that are open to everyone. You cant sustain both at the same time.
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nicklebro
05/15/18 10:03:36 PM
#57:


tennisdude818 posted...
We didnt have a welfare state in the 1800s. You can have a welfare state, or you can have borders that are open to everyone. You cant sustain both at the same time.

We've never had a welfare state.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
05/15/18 10:50:27 PM
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tennisdude818 posted...
We didnt have a welfare state in the 1800s.

Yeah we did. We fucking gave ppl free land and even spent tons to teach ppl how to farm it.
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nicklebro
05/15/18 10:53:45 PM
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
We didnt have a welfare state in the 1800s.

Yeah we did. We fucking gave ppl free land and even spent tons to teach ppl how to farm it.

That's not a welfare state.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
05/15/18 11:23:11 PM
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nicklebro posted...
That's not a welfare state.

Giving people free shit just for showing up, is indeed welfare. Also, getting free labor off the backs of slaves is even worse than welfare.
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nicklebro
05/15/18 11:45:02 PM
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
nicklebro posted...
That's not a welfare state.

Giving people free shit just for showing up, is indeed welfare. Also, getting free labor off the backs of slaves is even worse than welfare.

The mere act of providing welfare doesn't mean you have a welfare state, otherwise you've completely stripped the term of all it's power and it means next to nothing.
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Jaghave
05/15/18 11:52:38 PM
#62:


@Barenziah_Boy_Toy posted...
were cheating the system, spoke no English and 'refused to assimilate', and were low-skilled poor people who came here for a better life.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/tomi-lahren-gets-owned-genealogist-174609563.html

Here's a picture of the fake-blonde racist:
https://imgur.com/Yfndcgm


The person highlighted was a women, women back then general role was to care for their husband and children
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Barenziah Boy Toy
05/15/18 11:53:55 PM
#63:


nicklebro posted...
The mere act of providing welfare doesn't mean you have a welfare state, otherwise you've completely stripped the term of all it's power and it means next to nothing.

Yes, and it's clear that back in the 1800s, we gave a ton of welfare to white people off the backs of immigrants and minorities.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
05/15/18 11:54:51 PM
#64:


Jaghave posted...
The person highlighted was a women, women back then general role was to care for their husband and children

There was also the men highlighted who forged documentation in order to sneak into the country.
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Jaghave
05/15/18 11:56:36 PM
#65:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Jaghave posted...
The person highlighted was a women, women back then general role was to care for their husband and children

There was also the men highlighted who forged documentation in order to sneak into the country.


The one she focus on was a women which is clear via the circles
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Barenziah Boy Toy
05/16/18 12:10:18 AM
#66:


Jaghave posted...
The one she focus on was a women which is clear via the circles

/sigh

Srsly, how fucking horrendous are you at basic reading comp?

Lahrens great-great-grandmother spoke no English after living in the United States for a decade, and her great-grandfathers 1884 baptism was recorded in Norwegian
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Jaghave
05/16/18 12:22:09 AM
#67:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Jaghave posted...
The one she focus on was a women which is clear via the circles

/sigh

Srsly, how fucking horrendous are you at basic reading comp?

Lahrens great-great-grandmother spoke no English after living in the United States for a decade, and her great-grandfathers 1884 baptism was recorded in Norwegian


And as I already said women held no major roll back then outside the home that would require a profession or learning the dialect
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nicklebro
05/16/18 12:25:09 AM
#68:


Jaghave posted...
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Jaghave posted...
The one she focus on was a women which is clear via the circles

/sigh

Srsly, how fucking horrendous are you at basic reading comp?

Lahrens great-great-grandmother spoke no English after living in the United States for a decade, and her great-grandfathers 1884 baptism was recorded in Norwegian


And as I already said women held no major roll back then outside the home that would require a profession or learning the dialect

So right wing politicians today are fine with immigrants not learning English as long as they remain a stay at home parent?
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Jaghave
05/16/18 12:39:20 AM
#69:


nicklebro posted...
Jaghave posted...
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Jaghave posted...
The one she focus on was a women which is clear via the circles

/sigh

Srsly, how fucking horrendous are you at basic reading comp?

Lahrens great-great-grandmother spoke no English after living in the United States for a decade, and her great-grandfathers 1884 baptism was recorded in Norwegian


And as I already said women held no major roll back then outside the home that would require a profession or learning the dialect

So right wing politicians today are fine with immigrants not learning English as long as they remain a stay at home parent?


It a dumb comparison to compare a women back then to now, should we strip them of the right to vote and to do many job like the good old days if that what your going to use as your standard to compare immigration then and now.
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foreveraIone
05/16/18 12:42:57 AM
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I don't think she's attractive but the topic title got me hard
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nicklebro
05/16/18 1:13:06 AM
#71:


Jaghave posted...

It a dumb comparison to compare a women back then to now, should we strip them of the right to vote and to do many job like the good old days if that what your going to use as your standard to compare immigration then and now.

You haven't even come close to explaining why it's ok that Tammy's ancestor refused to learn English but that all immigrants today need to learn English no matter what.

Btw this is totally ignoring that English isn't even America's official language because we don't have an official language.
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Jaghave
05/16/18 1:31:22 AM
#72:


nicklebro posted...
Jaghave posted...

It a dumb comparison to compare a women back then to now, should we strip them of the right to vote and to do many job like the good old days if that what your going to use as your standard to compare immigration then and now.

You haven't even come close to explaining why it's ok that Tammy's ancestor refused to learn English but that all immigrants today need to learn English no matter what.

Btw this is totally ignoring that English isn't even America's official language because we don't have an official language.


Really, so why are all our signs, laws, bank agreement and corporate business agreement all in English
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nicklebro
05/16/18 1:33:36 AM
#73:


Jaghave posted...

Really, so why are all our signs, laws, bank agreement and corporate business agreement all in English

Because it's the most common language used in America. Did you seriously not know that there's no official language for the US?
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Jaghave
05/16/18 1:41:11 AM
#74:


@nicklebro posted...
Jaghave posted...

Really, so why are all our signs, laws, bank agreement and corporate business agreement all in English

Because it's the most common language used in America. Did you seriously not know that there's no official language for the US?


False 31 states has it as the official dialect with 5 planning on joining
Last I check we have 50 states so the majority already conginize it as the official dialect
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nicklebro
05/16/18 3:21:51 AM
#75:


Jaghave posted...
@nicklebro posted...
Jaghave posted...

Really, so why are all our signs, laws, bank agreement and corporate business agreement all in English

Because it's the most common language used in America. Did you seriously not know that there's no official language for the US?


False 31 states has it as the official dialect with 5 planning on joining
Last I check we have 50 states so the majority already conginize it as the official dialect

Sure for those 31 states, but does the country have an official language? Cuz that's all that matters. And it doesn't. I'm really glad you're desperately clinging on to this already refuted argument because it proves you know you're cornered and don't have an actual argument. You know you're beat, which is why youre gonna keep pretending that state law and federal law are the same thing.
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tennisdude818
05/16/18 7:21:32 AM
#76:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
We didnt have a welfare state in the 1800s.

Yeah we did. We fucking gave ppl free land and even spent tons to teach ppl how to farm it.


The Homestead Act for settlers was not comparable to the government forcing other people to pay for your groceries, healthcare, utilities, etc.
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Jaghave
05/16/18 8:41:26 AM
#77:


nicklebro posted...
Jaghave posted...
@nicklebro posted...
Jaghave posted...

Really, so why are all our signs, laws, bank agreement and corporate business agreement all in English

Because it's the most common language used in America. Did you seriously not know that there's no official language for the US?


False 31 states has it as the official dialect with 5 planning on joining
Last I check we have 50 states so the majority already conginize it as the official dialect

Sure for those 31 states, but does the country have an official language? Cuz that's all that matters. And it doesn't. I'm really glad you're desperately clinging on to this already refuted argument because it proves you know you're cornered and don't have an actual argument. You know you're beat, which is why youre gonna keep pretending that state law and federal law are the same thing.


Since more then half the country has it then yes it the official dialect just like the majority of states prohibit cell phone use while driving it not official by the federal government but it doesn't matter because it enforce by your state just like most laws. Same story with drugs pot ban by the fed but a dozen states dont enforce it because the federal laws are worthless without state enforcement
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Barenziah Boy Toy
05/16/18 8:47:18 AM
#78:


tennisdude818 posted...
The Homestead Act for settlers was not comparable to the government forcing other people to pay for your groceries, healthcare, utilities, etc.

It's even worse.
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nicklebro
05/16/18 12:25:54 PM
#79:


Jaghave posted...
nicklebro posted...
Jaghave posted...
@nicklebro posted...
Jaghave posted...

Really, so why are all our signs, laws, bank agreement and corporate business agreement all in English

Because it's the most common language used in America. Did you seriously not know that there's no official language for the US?


False 31 states has it as the official dialect with 5 planning on joining
Last I check we have 50 states so the majority already conginize it as the official dialect

Sure for those 31 states, but does the country have an official language? Cuz that's all that matters. And it doesn't. I'm really glad you're desperately clinging on to this already refuted argument because it proves you know you're cornered and don't have an actual argument. You know you're beat, which is why youre gonna keep pretending that state law and federal law are the same thing.


Since more then half the country has it then yes it the official dialect just like the majority of states prohibit cell phone use while driving it not official by the federal government but it doesn't matter because it enforce by your state just like most laws. Same story with drugs pot ban by the fed but a dozen states dont enforce it because the federal laws are worthless without state enforcement

You have no clue what "official" means if you actually believe what you're saying is true. But we both know you aren't that stupid.
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Jaghave
05/16/18 12:44:29 PM
#80:


nicklebro posted...
Jaghave posted...
nicklebro posted...
Jaghave posted...
@nicklebro posted...
Jaghave posted...

Really, so why are all our signs, laws, bank agreement and corporate business agreement all in English

Because it's the most common language used in America. Did you seriously not know that there's no official language for the US?


False 31 states has it as the official dialect with 5 planning on joining
Last I check we have 50 states so the majority already conginize it as the official dialect

Sure for those 31 states, but does the country have an official language? Cuz that's all that matters. And it doesn't. I'm really glad you're desperately clinging on to this already refuted argument because it proves you know you're cornered and don't have an actual argument. You know you're beat, which is why youre gonna keep pretending that state law and federal law are the same thing.


Since more then half the country has it then yes it the official dialect just like the majority of states prohibit cell phone use while driving it not official by the federal government but it doesn't matter because it enforce by your state just like most laws. Same story with drugs pot ban by the fed but a dozen states dont enforce it because the federal laws are worthless without state enforcement

You have no clue what "official" means if you actually believe what you're saying is true. But we both know you aren't that stupid.


Once again it official in more then half the nation so yes that official
Once again the 10th gave the authority to the states to make it official or not
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nicklebro
05/16/18 1:25:27 PM
#81:


Yeah some states have official language. But the country does not.

Lol you're never gonna win here man cuz you're objectvely incorrect. I don't care what laws individual states have, they're literally irrelevant. The only thing that matters is the USA's official language, or lack thereof.
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Jaghave
05/16/18 1:27:49 PM
#82:


nicklebro posted...
Yeah some states have official language. But the country does not.

Lol you're never gonna win here man cuz you're objectvely incorrect. I don't care what laws individual states have, they're literally irrelevant. The only thing that matters is the USA's official language, or lack thereof.


The country does for the fact that 65% of the nation has it official
In the United States of America
Since the vast majority recognize it defacto the official dialect which is why Congress is held in English it not a UN or EU setting where they have translators
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nicklebro
05/16/18 1:34:24 PM
#83:


No rounding up bro.

Anyways, now that you've finally admitted you're wrong, it's time to explain why it's ok for Tammy's ancestors to refuse to learn English but immjgrsnts today are not allowed even if they're stay at home parents.

Is it because she's white? Are you being racist?
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RchHomieQuanChi
05/16/18 1:50:23 PM
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Not sure why conservatives have fooled themselves into thinking she's attractive. I don't think she's hot at all.
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nicklebro
05/16/18 1:59:42 PM
#85:


I think she's ok, like a 7. But you can tell that she's probably way uglier when she's not all dolled up for TV.
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TheCyborgNinja
05/16/18 2:06:19 PM
#86:


As long as the person follows the rules to get into the country and finds work, be it something from janitor to engineer, you should be happy they want contribute to your society.

Illegals are criminals. I understand why people feel bad for them, but they're still a problem on a number of levels and should be removed/blocked.

My German family were basically war refugees and my grandparents didn't learn English until they were teenagers or something. I empathize with the struggle, but there's a process and it exists for a reason.
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Jaghave
05/16/18 2:15:13 PM
#87:


nicklebro posted...
No rounding up bro.

Anyways, now that you've finally admitted you're wrong, it's time to explain why it's ok for Tammy's ancestors to refuse to learn English but immjgrsnts today are not allowed even if they're stay at home parents.

Is it because she's white? Are you being racist?


So then you admit sanctuary cities and pot being legalize which is below 50% is not official and those states and cities should be punish
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Barenziah Boy Toy
05/16/18 2:58:52 PM
#88:


Jaghave posted...
The country does for the fact that 65% of the nation has it official

65% of state legislatures =/= 65% of the country.
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Jaghave
05/16/18 3:00:54 PM
#89:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Jaghave posted...
The country does for the fact that 65% of the nation has it official

65% of state legislatures =/= 65% of the country.


Actually via land mass far more then that via land your looking at 85%
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Barenziah Boy Toy
05/16/18 3:01:59 PM
#90:


Jaghave posted...
Actually via land mass far more then that via land your looking at 85%

Nice to see that conservatives care more about land mass than actual people.
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Jaghave
05/16/18 3:03:13 PM
#91:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Jaghave posted...
Actually via land mass far more then that via land your looking at 85%

Nice to see that conservatives care more about land mass than actual people.


Yes since you have a higher chance to be at any one point of the usa
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
05/16/18 3:07:24 PM
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As a capitalist I believe in the free movement of labor across borders but anyone attacking her for her ancestors when she hasnt defended them or comparing America back then to America now probably doesn't have the capacity to walk and chew gum at the same time.
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nicklebro
05/16/18 7:55:07 PM
#93:


TheCyborgNinja posted...
As long as the person follows the rules to get into the country and finds work, be it something from janitor to engineer, you should be happy they want contribute to your society.

Illegals are criminals. I understand why people feel bad for them, but they're still a problem on a number of levels and should be removed/blocked.

My German family were basically war refugees and my grandparents didn't learn English until they were teenagers or something. I empathize with the struggle, but there's a process and it exists for a reason.

I never understood this logic, just because your family had a hard time coming here that means everyone should. How does that kinda logic help anyone or do the country any good?

Jaghave posted...


So then you admit sanctuary cities and pot being legalize which is below 50% is not official and those states and cities should be punish

Not official what? Im not sure what you're trying to say but no, pot is not officially legal in America and Sanctuary Cities are examples of when state and federal law collide. But in no way does that suggest they deserve to be punished, that'd a non sequitur and another glaring example of you trying to use utter nonsense to get yourself out of the hole you dug yourself into.

And whether pot was legal in a 50 states but not federally legal, it would still not be officially legal in America. Of course that would never happen but if it did, America would still be waiting to become a country where pot is officially legal. I hope this is clear enough so that you finally start to understand what I had thought was a very simple concept. But you've proved that you have a knack for making even the simplest ideas in the world nearly impossible to comprehend.
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Jaghave
05/16/18 8:10:41 PM
#94:


nicklebro posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
As long as the person follows the rules to get into the country and finds work, be it something from janitor to engineer, you should be happy they want contribute to your society.

Illegals are criminals. I understand why people feel bad for them, but they're still a problem on a number of levels and should be removed/blocked.

My German family were basically war refugees and my grandparents didn't learn English until they were teenagers or something. I empathize with the struggle, but there's a process and it exists for a reason.

I never understood this logic, just because your family had a hard time coming here that means everyone should. How does that kinda logic help anyone or do the country any good?

Jaghave posted...


So then you admit sanctuary cities and pot being legalize which is below 50% is not official and those states and cities should be punish

Not official what? Im not sure what you're trying to say but no, pot is not officially legal in America and Sanctuary Cities are examples of when state and federal law collide. But in no way does that suggest they deserve to be punished, that'd a non sequitur and another glaring example of you trying to use utter nonsense to get yourself out of the hole you dug yourself into.

And whether pot was legal in a 50 states but not federally legal, it would still not be officially legal in America. Of course that would never happen but if it did, America would still be waiting to become a country where pot is officially legal. I hope this is clear enough so that you finally start to understand what I had thought was a very simple concept. But you've proved that you have a knack for making even the simplest ideas in the world nearly impossible to comprehend.


But english is not illegal and recognize in all the states are official in most and all laws and signs are english so that defacto official dialect
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Barenziah Boy Toy
05/16/18 8:22:39 PM
#95:


Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
but anyone attacking her for her ancestors when she hasnt defended them

The point is that she should be attacking her ancestors and advocating to voluntarily 'self-deport' everyone in her family with as much ferocity, just as conservatives want to deport every DREAMer currently in the country.
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iamintents
05/16/18 8:23:36 PM
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imagine the mental gymnastic itt defending this chick....
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nicklebro
05/16/18 9:11:43 PM
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Jaghave posted...
official in most

This is you admitting that Englishnis not the official language of the country. And I just had my post deleted which is super irritating so you're getting an abreviated version. Your mental gymnastics ended up failing you eventually, and I keep getting warned to not let you troll me so unless your next post actually contains a salient point that hasn't been refuted already it will be ignored. You tried man, but there's just no way I could allow someone with such a horrendous argument to get off the hook that easily. Better luck next time.

Barenziah Boy Toy posted...

The point is that she should be attacking her ancestors and advocating to voluntarily 'self-deport' everyone in her family with as much ferocity, just as conservatives want to deport every DREAMer currently in the country.

Lmao awesome post

iamintents posted...
imagine the mental gymnastic itt defending this chick....

Don't have to imagine it, it's right here in all of it's disgustingly ignorant glory.
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StanZarnack
05/16/18 9:13:27 PM
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go slurp some more of daddy peterson you hack.
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nicklebro
05/16/18 9:19:54 PM
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StanZarnack posted...
go slurp some more of daddy peterson you hack.

Lol someone needs a nap.
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Jaghave
05/16/18 9:25:01 PM
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nicklebro posted...
Jaghave posted...
official in most

This is you admitting that Englishnis not the official language of the country. And I just had my post deleted which is super irritating so you're getting an abreviated version. Your mental gymnastics ended up failing you eventually, and I keep getting warned to not let you troll me so unless your next post actually contains a salient point that hasn't been refuted already it will be ignored. You tried man, but there's just no way I could allow someone with such a horrendous argument to get off the hook that easily. Better luck next time.

Barenziah Boy Toy posted...

The point is that she should be attacking her ancestors and advocating to voluntarily 'self-deport' everyone in her family with as much ferocity, just as conservatives want to deport every DREAMer currently in the country.

Lmao awesome post

iamintents posted...
imagine the mental gymnastic itt defending this chick....

Don't have to imagine it, it's right here in all of it's disgustingly ignorant glory.


What part of if I pick a random state the chance are english is the offical dialect and that the federal government write all laws in english make it defacto English do you not understand
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