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Makeveli_lives 05/13/18 3:29:05 PM #1: |
http://www.complex.com/life/2018/05/fbi-detained-a-black-man-for-5-months-for-being-an-activist-and-legal-gun-owner
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UnfairRepresent 05/14/18 7:40:03 PM #2: |
Investigators began monitoring Balogun, whose legal name is Christopher Daniels, after he participated in an Austin, Texas, rally in March 2015 protesting against law enforcement, special agent Aaron Keighley testified in court.
the marchers anti-police statements, such as oink oink bang bang and the only good pig is a pig thats dead. The agent also mentioned Baloguns Facebook posts calling a murder suspect in a police officers death a hero and expressing solidarity with the man who killed officers in Texas when he posted: They deserve what they got. Ehhhh The FBI was way out of line to hold him for 5 months and it worries me that it might set a precedent for them to do it more often but man this man is an asshole and it makes it hard to sympathize with him. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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muchdran 05/14/18 7:41:35 PM #3: |
Called a cop killer a hero. Shouldn't take that seriously at all.
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Makeveli_lives 05/14/18 7:45:50 PM #4: |
muchdran posted...
Called a cop killer a hero. Shouldn't take that seriously at all. Whatever happened to the first amendment? --- Switch FC: SW-3917-4425-6106 PSN: PiKappaPhi769 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 05/14/18 7:46:05 PM #5: |
muchdran posted...
Called a cop killer a hero. Shouldn't take that seriously at all. He also attended rallies calling for dead cops, carried weapons and taught "Self Defense" of black people against corrupt cops. As I said it's hard to sympathize and its easy to see why the FBI was watching him. But even so it's not right that they held him for 5 months and fucked his family up. I think the FBI is so afraid of all these guys who were "under watch" commiting attacks that they are overzealous. Like that stabby guy in France was "under watch" and still commited terrorism, now the French cops look bad. So I think the FBI is possbily waaaaaaay too over eager to catch people before they even did anything and we end up with fucking Minority Report. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DifferentialEquation 05/14/18 7:47:41 PM #6: |
And who is it that has lately by saying how crooked and biased the FBI is? Oh that's right, Trump. This is the FBI that liberals have been praising.
Liberals and Democrats, you don't get to corrupt the FBI for your own personal witch hunt against our duly elected president and then be outraged when they do something crooked that you don't like. --- There's no business to be taxed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axiom 05/14/18 7:48:01 PM #7: |
Keighley made no mention of Baloguns specific actions at the rally, but noted the marchers anti-police statements, such as oink oink bang bang and the only good pig is a pig thats dead. The agent also mentioned Baloguns Facebook posts calling a murder suspect in a police officers death a hero and expressing solidarity with the man who killed officers in Texas when he posted: They deserve what they got.
Keighley, however, later admitted the FBI had no evidence of Balogun making any specific threats about harming police. FBI agent himself said the guy didn't make any threats. Literally thought policing ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I4NRulez 05/14/18 7:48:07 PM #8: |
they should monitor him but holding him for 5 months is pretty insane lol
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UnfairRepresent 05/14/18 7:48:37 PM #9: |
DifferentialEquation posted...
And who is it that has lately by saying how crooked and biased the FBI is? Oh that's right, Trump. This is the FBI that liberals have been praising. Wut --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ASithLord7 05/14/18 7:50:26 PM #11: |
muchdran posted...
Called a cop killer a hero. Shouldn't take that seriously at all. Oh boy this plus your sig sure is ironic Should every trumpeteer who called for hillary or obama to be killed have been detained? --- https://imgur.com/VZeCB RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fony 05/14/18 7:52:33 PM #12: |
Yet they can't detain school shooters who they have on a watch list and monitor their online chats planning massacres.
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Cheater87 05/14/18 7:59:12 PM #13: |
He praised cop killers, I can see why they saw him as a threat.
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KStateKing17 05/14/18 8:37:01 PM #14: |
DifferentialEquation posted...
And who is it that has lately by saying how crooked and biased the FBI is? Oh that's right, Trump. This is the FBI that liberals have been praising. Lol no one likes the fbi Fony posted... Yet they can't detain school shooters who they have on a watch list and monitor their online chats planning massacres. This --- The 17th King of the State of K ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eggcorn 05/15/18 2:05:00 AM #15: |
oh, this guy?
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kingdrake2 05/15/18 2:41:31 AM #16: |
it's that guy, i hope he never gets out of jail he's ****ing crazy.
even crazier than the people who took over a state park in oregon that year. --- I'm pretty much Stu from Rugrats making pudding at 4 in morning because I've lost control of my life - Polycosm ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 05/15/18 2:45:05 AM #17: |
Literally rallying people to murder police officers. Fair, next.
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KrystalSNES 05/15/18 2:46:55 AM #18: |
holy hell that dude is tall
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A_Good_Boy 05/15/18 3:28:56 AM #19: |
Weird how people that defend white supremacists at Charlottesville see no issue with this guy being detained.
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kingdrake2 05/15/18 3:40:42 AM #20: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
Weird how people that defend white supremacists at Charlottesville see no issue with this guy being detained. those white supremacists are looney tunes as well. --- I'm pretty much Stu from Rugrats making pudding at 4 in morning because I've lost control of my life - Polycosm ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 05/15/18 3:41:58 AM #21: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
Weird how people that defend white supremacists at Charlottesville see no issue with this guy being detained. Who tf defends white supremacists? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MARKINGRAM22 05/15/18 3:53:13 AM #22: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
Weird how people that defend white supremacists at Charlottesville see no issue with this guy being detained. Im sure to you everyone that thinks rallying people to murder cops and promotes it completely supports new nazis. Of course everyone has a right to speak and say ignorant bs, but it is pretty transparent when people like tc leave all that info out. Not that Im completely addicted on board, but he was very close to inciting murder...vey close. --- "That man practices Islam. Are you happy he was taken out since according to you he believes what terrorists do?" -VipaGTS to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bishop9800 05/15/18 4:05:20 AM #23: |
Howl posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...Weird how people that defend white supremacists at Charlottesville see no issue with this guy being detained. Where have you been? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ving_Rhames 05/15/18 4:52:14 AM #24: |
FBI should be doing this to those blatant future school/public mass shooters.
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UnfairRepresent 05/15/18 5:17:19 AM #25: |
Ving_Rhames posted...
FBI should be doing this to those blatant future school/public mass shooters. If we locked up every troubled teen talking shit We'd fill every prison in the nation before we got halfway --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 05/15/18 6:29:28 AM #26: |
Bishop9800 posted...
Howl posted...A_Good_Boy posted... I honestly would like to know who. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Makeveli_lives 05/15/18 8:52:59 AM #27: |
Howl posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...Weird how people that defend white supremacists at Charlottesville see no issue with this guy being detained. Good people on both sides --- Switch FC: SW-3917-4425-6106 PSN: PiKappaPhi769 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ammonitida 05/15/18 9:21:36 AM #28: |
Rakem Balogun, who was arrested in December 2017, could be the first case of the government attempting to charge people as being a black identity extremist, a category of terrorism the FBI coined late in 2017. The reasoning behind this new term is the FBI's concern that the murder of black people by law enforcement could cause premeditated, retaliatory lethal violence against the police. So, to qualify for the classification of black identity extremist, critics argue one must simply be black and frustrated with the flagrant police brutality in this country. Yet again, we have a "leftist" misrepresenting that FBI report. In reality, only those black "activists" who were associated with virulently racist ideologies were called "black identity extremists". The report went out of its way to distinguish them from regular BLM activists. Now note these bolded parts. FBI Detained a Black Man for 5 Months for Being an Activist and Legal Gun Owner The agent also mentioned Baloguns Facebook posts calling a murder suspect in a police officers death a hero and expressing solidarity with the man who killed officers in Texas when he posted: They deserve what they got. WTF is wrong with this author? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 05/15/18 9:23:37 AM #29: |
Howl posted...
Bishop9800 posted...Howl posted...A_Good_Boy posted... Would you be fine with jailing those who orchestrated the Unite the Right rally prior to the event itself? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HypnoCoosh 05/15/18 9:27:55 AM #30: |
Makeveli_lives posted...
muchdran posted...Called a cop killer a hero. Shouldn't take that seriously at all. Freedom of speech not freedom of consequence. --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 05/15/18 9:28:13 AM #31: |
He's the story from a non-clickbait site that isn't trying to promote racism hysteria.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/charges-dropped-in-first-case-against-black-identity-extremist Daniels advocates believe he was the first person to be prosecuted under a new government classification for domestic terror threats, which the FBI calls black identity extremists. The FBI uses the term to describe individuals who resort to violence or unlawful activities in response to perceived racism and injustice in American society, according to a copy of the report obtained and published last year by Foreign Policy magazine. This guy is a racist extremist who wanted to kill cops, and he had an illegal weapon. Fuck him, hope he enjoyed his jail time. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bloodychess 05/15/18 9:28:34 AM #32: |
eggcorn posted...
oh, this guy?We support the abolishment of the U.S. Constitution as a political right, and favor a government based on the needs of the people. Sauce --- To err is human To arr is pirate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 05/15/18 9:32:52 AM #33: |
The Admiral posted...
This guy is a racist extremist who wanted to kill cops, and he had an illegal weapon. Fuck him, hope he enjoyed his jail time. Why did you cut out half the article? The classification attracted a deluge of criticism from the media, civil rights leaders, and politicians, some of whom saw in the FBIs report a return to J. Edgar Hoovers COINTELPRO program targeting domestic political organizations.... --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 05/15/18 9:34:27 AM #34: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
The Admiral posted...This guy is a racist extremist who wanted to kill cops, and he had an illegal weapon. Fuck him, hope he enjoyed his jail time. Because it's not really relevant. The guy's racist and extremist rhetoric got him onto a domestic terrorism watch list, and while he was being watched he was observed having an illegal gun. Tough shit for him. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 05/15/18 9:34:59 AM #35: |
But the gun charge was dismissed?
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Dustin1280 05/15/18 9:35:25 AM #36: |
Dude is a racist asshole who beat up a woman in the past and definitely deserved to be held up for a little bit I don't really sympathize with him at all even if his life was screwed up for being detained for 5 months.
But objectively 5 months is extreme and as Unfair Represents said a dangerous precedent to set. --- RIP: Canuklehead, Karma: 1369 // RIP: Gen_Lee_Enfield, Karma: 1731 // RIP: Orlando of the Axe, Karma: 1642 // RIP nayr626 Karma: 4395 --They delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Twin3Turbo 05/15/18 9:37:22 AM #38: |
The Admiral posted...
Because it's not really relevant. The guy's racist and extremist rhetoric got him onto a domestic terrorism watch list, and while he was being watched he was observed having an illegal gun. Tough shit for him. Honest question because I don't know, is having an illegal firearm worth 5 months in jail? Is that the normal sentence for someone with his previous criminal history (I don't know if he has one or not)? Because if it isn't, it's a bit troubling to that people just go "Well he did this ONE thing wrong so anything that happens to him after that is a-ok" --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bloodychess 05/15/18 9:37:32 AM #39: |
Dustin1280 posted...
But 5 months is extreme and as Unfair Represents said a dangerous precedent to set. Dangerous precedent and it gives his clan to go out and "fight" for once he's out --- To err is human To arr is pirate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 05/15/18 9:38:36 AM #41: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
But the gun charge was dismissed? It's not relevant. What's relevant is whether he had an illegal weapon or not. According to the FBI, he wasn't allowed to own it because he was convicted of beating the shit out of a woman ten years ago. The TN court judge disagreed and said this wasn't enough to limit him from owning a firearm (this is usually the kind of gun control ruling that outrages the left, BTW): The indictment was dismissed May 1, when a district court in Texas determined domestic assault as codified by Tennessee law does not fit the federal definition of domestic violence that would prohibit him from owning a firearm. Daniels was ultimately released from custody two days later. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 05/15/18 9:39:10 AM #42: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Howl posted...Bishop9800 posted... I honestly don't know enough about the specifics of it to answer. I can ask questions if you'd be willing to educate me and then I could answer your question. 1. Were any of them openly calling for violence? 2. Were any of them part of groups that were or have openly called for violence? If either of those questions is a yes, then yes I'd be ok with it entirely. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thelovefist 05/15/18 9:42:19 AM #44: |
Seems like a fine upstanding citizen to me.
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The Admiral 05/15/18 9:42:49 AM #45: |
Explains why Draje hasn't been posting in a quite a while.
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Howl 05/15/18 9:44:30 AM #46: |
The Admiral posted...
Explains why Draje hasn't been posting in a quite a while. XD are you insuiating that he's been detained as well? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 05/15/18 9:45:51 AM #47: |
The Admiral posted...
It's not relevant. What's relevant is whether he had an illegal weapon or not. Why isn't it relevant? And your attempts to evoke emotion don't matter --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 05/15/18 9:48:35 AM #48: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
The Admiral posted...It's not relevant. What's relevant is whether he had an illegal weapon or not. My pointing out that this guy is a racist extremist is certainly relevant, since it's what got him on the FBI watchlist in the first place. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HypnoCoosh 05/15/18 9:50:12 AM #49: |
People are literally only defending him because he's black and they are likely black as well because there is literally NO reason to defend this guy. None.
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Dustin1280 05/15/18 9:51:32 AM #50: |
HypnoCoosh posted...
People are literally only defending him because he's black and they are likely black as well because there is literally NO reason to defend this guy. None. Fuck that guy, he is a women beating racist. I don't care how unfairly he is treated. But objectively 5 month detainment for little to no current offense is a scary thing. --- RIP: Canuklehead, Karma: 1369 // RIP: Gen_Lee_Enfield, Karma: 1731 // RIP: Orlando of the Axe, Karma: 1642 // RIP nayr626 Karma: 4395 --They delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thelovefist 05/15/18 9:53:04 AM #51: |
HypnoCoosh posted...
People are literally only defending him because he's black and they are likely black as well because there is literally NO reason to defend this guy. None. I think you can not defend him and be troubled by someone being detained without charge or trial (not sure if that happened here) for 5 months. --- N/A ... Copied to Clipboard!
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