Current Events > Fox guest extols virtues of torture because ''It worked on John McCain''

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Antifar
05/10/18 1:49:04 PM
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https://twitter.com/LeanneNaramore/status/994626363675103234

"That's why they call him Songbird John." I'm very unclear who "they" are; I'd never heard this before and searching for the term brings up only a few fringe blog posts from like 2015
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Phantom_Nook
05/10/18 1:51:37 PM
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both sides
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Broseph_Stalin
05/10/18 1:52:09 PM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
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LightHawKnight
05/10/18 1:52:09 PM
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So stupid. All torture does is make people say what you want them to say to stop the pain.
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Blue_Inigo
05/10/18 1:52:31 PM
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Holy shit
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DifferentialEquation
05/10/18 1:55:43 PM
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The tweet isn't loading for me for whatever reason, but is this about waterboarding? Waterboarding isn't torture.
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more_cow_bell
05/10/18 1:56:41 PM
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foreveraIone
05/10/18 1:57:16 PM
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more_cow_bell posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
Waterboarding isn't torture.

what?

please don't take de seriously
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Garioshi
05/10/18 1:57:57 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
The tweet isn't loading for me for whatever reason, but is this about waterboarding? Waterboarding isn't torture.

imagine unironically thinking simulated drowning isn't torture
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foreveraIone
05/10/18 1:58:10 PM
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foreveraIone posted...
please don't take de seriously

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Axiom
05/10/18 1:58:19 PM
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MC_BatCommander
05/10/18 1:58:27 PM
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Garioshi posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
The tweet isn't loading for me for whatever reason, but is this about waterboarding? Waterboarding isn't torture.

imagine unironically thinking simulated drowning isn't torture


he's not doing it unironically, that post was bait as is literally every post DE makes
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DifferentialEquation
05/10/18 1:58:34 PM
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more_cow_bell posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
Waterboarding isn't torture.

what?


There has been plenty of discussion on this topic by Dick Cheney and other experts. It's an enhanced interrogation technique (aka not torture).
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Caution999
05/10/18 1:59:26 PM
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Its really a shame John McCains public perception has fallen so far.

That being said, thats just wrong. I still have respect for the guy, but in recent years he has done nothing except prove that term limits need to be a thing.

And this is why I also condemn Fox News at times, too. Something like this caters to the extreme crowd.
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Doom_Art
05/10/18 1:59:44 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
So stupid. All torture does is make people say what you want them to say to stop the pain.

Nice Guy Eddie sums it up well

"If you fucking beat this prick long enough, he'll tell you he started the goddamn Chicago Fire, now that don't necessarily make it fucking so"

DifferentialEquation posted...
Waterboarding isn't torture.

The action or practice of inflicting severe pain on someone as a punishment or in order to force them to do or say something.

the torture of political prisoners
confessions extracted under torture
as modifier a torture chamber

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LightHawKnight
05/10/18 2:01:32 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
more_cow_bell posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
Waterboarding isn't torture.

what?


There has been plenty of discussion on this topic by Dick Cheney and other experts. It's an enhanced interrogation technique (aka not torture).


torture
the action or practice of inflicting severe pain on someone as a punishment or to force them to do or say something, or for the pleasure of the person inflicting the pain.


Waterboarding is a form of water torture in which water is poured over a cloth covering the face and breathing passages of an immobilized captive, causing the individual to experience the sensation of drowning.

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Patchwork
05/10/18 2:05:44 PM
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It's torture.
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Antifar
05/10/18 3:15:35 PM
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Caution999 posted...
Its really a shame John McCains public perception has fallen so far.

That being said, thats just wrong. I still have respect for the guy,

Do you? Seems like it would be weird to believe he sold weapons to terrorists and is a traitor and still respect him.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76581540/900857488
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76581540/900857634
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Freddie_Mercury
05/10/18 3:16:51 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
Phantom_Nook posted...
both sides

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spudger
05/10/18 3:17:32 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
Garioshi posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
The tweet isn't loading for me for whatever reason, but is this about waterboarding? Waterboarding isn't torture.

imagine unironically thinking simulated drowning isn't torture


he's not doing it unironically, that post was bait as is literally every post DE makes

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Funbazooka
05/10/18 3:21:54 PM
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Haha it's trending
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Phantom_Nook
05/10/18 3:42:57 PM
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Antifar posted...
Caution999 posted...
Its really a shame John McCains public perception has fallen so far.

That being said, thats just wrong. I still have respect for the guy,

Do you? Seems like it would be weird to believe he sold weapons to terrorists and is a traitor and still respect him.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76581540/900857488
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76581540/900857634

lol, p-owned and such.
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TheEvilMushroom
05/10/18 3:46:13 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
The tweet isn't loading for me for whatever reason, but is this about waterboarding? Waterboarding isn't torture.


Weren't you the guy that many years ago on this same board said the same thing?

And then lost an account bet to upload a video of you being waterboarded?

And then you welched because you were too scared to do it?
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ledbowman
05/10/18 3:47:37 PM
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John McCain was offered by the Vietnamese the chance to go home because of who his father was, but he chose to stay with the other prisoners.
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DifferentialEquation
05/10/18 5:43:30 PM
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TheEvilMushroom posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
The tweet isn't loading for me for whatever reason, but is this about waterboarding? Waterboarding isn't torture.


Weren't you the guy that many years ago on this same board said the same thing?

And then lost an account bet to upload a video of you being waterboarded?

And then you welched because you were too scared to do it?


I have said before that waterboarding isn't torture. I've never made an account bet.
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DarkTransient
05/10/18 5:47:05 PM
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If torturing criminal / terrorist scumbags gives information needed to prevent further criminal / terrorist scumbags from doing their attacks and/or catch others that have already carried out attacks, I see zero reason to object to it.

Heck, even if it doesn't leak information, just the fact that it gives those scumbags what they deserve.

But there again, the left relies on these kind of attacks occuring, so it's no surprise they want to ban any measure that might reduce attacks or punish people for them.
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lasergun
05/10/18 5:47:52 PM
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Lol libbyfaqs can't even keep his shitposting consistent pewpew
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mustachedmystic
05/10/18 5:55:09 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
If torturing criminal / terrorist scumbags gives information needed to prevent further criminal / terrorist scumbags from doing their attacks and/or catch others that have already carried out attacks, I see zero reason to object to it.

Life isn't 24.

DarkTransient posted...

But there again, the left relies on these kind of attacks occuring, so it's no surprise they want to ban any measure that might reduce attacks or punish people for them.

Shut the fuck up.
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The Great Muta 22
05/10/18 6:07:04 PM
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Antifar posted...
Caution999 posted...
Its really a shame John McCains public perception has fallen so far.

That being said, thats just wrong. I still have respect for the guy,

Do you? Seems like it would be weird to believe he sold weapons to terrorists and is a traitor and still respect him.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76581540/900857488
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76581540/900857634


@Caution999

Where'd you run to?
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MC_BatCommander
05/10/18 6:32:11 PM
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Curious how he'll shitpost his way out of this one
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DifferentialEquation
05/10/18 7:49:16 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
So stupid. All torture does is make people say what you want them to say to stop the pain.

Nice Guy Eddie sums it up well

"If you fucking beat this prick long enough, he'll tell you he started the goddamn Chicago Fire, now that don't necessarily make it fucking so"

DifferentialEquation posted...
Waterboarding isn't torture.

The action or practice of inflicting severe pain on someone as a punishment or in order to force them to do or say something.

the torture of political prisoners
confessions extracted under torture
as modifier a torture chamber


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboarding

Former George W. Bush administration officials Dick Cheney[15][16] and John Ashcroft[17] have stated since leaving office that they do not consider waterboarding to be torture. At least one Republican member of the U.S. Congress, Ted Poe,[18] has taken a similar position.

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Funkydog
05/10/18 7:50:49 PM
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Imagine responding to DE seriously.

Imagine doing that.

Can you imagine?
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Delirious_Beard
05/10/18 7:53:52 PM
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Funkydog posted...
Imagine responding to DE seriously.

Imagine doing that.

Can you imagine?

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DifferentialEquation
05/10/18 7:57:43 PM
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Delirious_Beard posted...
Funkydog posted...
Imagine responding to DE seriously.

Imagine doing that.

Can you imagine?


I love how people always get butthurt about others responding to me. Upset that I'm destroying leftist narratives?

A quick trip Wikipedia was all it took to expose the bullshit SJW "anti-torture" agenda.
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Kitt
05/10/18 8:04:43 PM
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TheEvilMushroom posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
The tweet isn't loading for me for whatever reason, but is this about waterboarding? Waterboarding isn't torture.


Weren't you the guy that many years ago on this same board said the same thing?

And then lost an account bet to upload a video of you being waterboarded?

And then you welched because you were too scared to do it?

No that's not him, that was AndFinrodFell, and that's not what happened.

He said that he didn't think waterboarding is a big deal and that he could handle it, so CE told him to film himself being waterboarded. He delivered and quickly changed his tune on the subject. He had to put the video in his sig because people kept asking if he went through with it. Respect.
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Smashingpmkns
05/10/18 8:08:37 PM
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Remember when Christopher Hitchens said water boarding wasn't torture, volunteered himself to be water boarded, then panicked and gave up after like 5 seconds? Everyone who doesn't believe water boarding is torture should volunteer.
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DifferentialEquation
05/10/18 8:11:18 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Remember when Christopher Hitchens said water boarding wasn't torture, volunteered himself to be water boarded, then panicked and gave up after like 5 seconds? Everyone who doesn't believe water boarding is torture should volunteer.


It's unpleasant, but that doesn't make it torture. And either way, we're only advocating for using it on terrorsists.
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halomonkey1_3_5
05/10/18 10:31:32 PM
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Antifar posted...
Caution999 posted...
Its really a shame John McCains public perception has fallen so far.

That being said, thats just wrong. I still have respect for the guy,

Do you? Seems like it would be weird to believe he sold weapons to terrorists and is a traitor and still respect him.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76581540/900857488
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76581540/900857634

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UnholyMudcrab
05/11/18 5:36:36 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Remember when Christopher Hitchens said water boarding wasn't torture, volunteered himself to be water boarded, then panicked and gave up after like 5 seconds? Everyone who doesn't believe water boarding is torture should volunteer.

Remember when Sean Hannity volunteered to be waterboarded nine fucking years ago and still hasn't followed through on that promise?
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Slip-N-Slide
05/11/18 5:47:37 AM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
Antifar posted...
Caution999 posted...
Its really a shame John McCains public perception has fallen so far.

That being said, thats just wrong. I still have respect for the guy,

Do you? Seems like it would be weird to believe he sold weapons to terrorists and is a traitor and still respect him.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76581540/900857488
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76581540/900857634


@Caution999

Where'd you run to?

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Marmitecashews
05/11/18 6:14:48 AM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
Doom_Art posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
So stupid. All torture does is make people say what you want them to say to stop the pain.

Nice Guy Eddie sums it up well

"If you fucking beat this prick long enough, he'll tell you he started the goddamn Chicago Fire, now that don't necessarily make it fucking so"

DifferentialEquation posted...
Waterboarding isn't torture.

The action or practice of inflicting severe pain on someone as a punishment or in order to force them to do or say something.

the torture of political prisoners
confessions extracted under torture
as modifier a torture chamber


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboarding

Former George W. Bush administration officials Dick Cheney[15][16] and John Ashcroft[17] have stated since leaving office that they do not consider waterboarding to be torture. At least one Republican member of the U.S. Congress, Ted Poe,[18] has taken a similar position.


"Waterboarding is a form of water torture in which water is poured over a cloth covering the face and breathing passages of an immobilized captive, causing the individual to experience the sensation of drowning. Ordinarily, the water is poured intermittently so as to prevent death during torture, however, if the water is poured uninterruptedly it will lead to death by asphyxia with the sensation of drowning, also called dry drowning. Besides death, waterboarding can cause extreme pain, damage to lungs, brain damage from oxygen deprivation, other physical injuries including broken bones due to struggling against restraints, and lasting psychological damage.[1] Adverse physical consequences can manifest themselves months after the event, while psychological effects can last for years."

According to your source it is torture.
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DifferentialEquation
05/11/18 7:16:17 AM
#42:


Marmitecashews posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
Doom_Art posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
So stupid. All torture does is make people say what you want them to say to stop the pain.

Nice Guy Eddie sums it up well

"If you fucking beat this prick long enough, he'll tell you he started the goddamn Chicago Fire, now that don't necessarily make it fucking so"

DifferentialEquation posted...
Waterboarding isn't torture.

The action or practice of inflicting severe pain on someone as a punishment or in order to force them to do or say something.

the torture of political prisoners
confessions extracted under torture
as modifier a torture chamber


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboarding

Former George W. Bush administration officials Dick Cheney[15][16] and John Ashcroft[17] have stated since leaving office that they do not consider waterboarding to be torture. At least one Republican member of the U.S. Congress, Ted Poe,[18] has taken a similar position.


"Waterboarding is a form of water torture in which water is poured over a cloth covering the face and breathing passages of an immobilized captive, causing the individual to experience the sensation of drowning. Ordinarily, the water is poured intermittently so as to prevent death during torture, however, if the water is poured uninterruptedly it will lead to death by asphyxia with the sensation of drowning, also called dry drowning. Besides death, waterboarding can cause extreme pain, damage to lungs, brain damage from oxygen deprivation, other physical injuries including broken bones due to struggling against restraints, and lasting psychological damage.[1] Adverse physical consequences can manifest themselves months after the event, while psychological effects can last for years."

According to your source it is torture.


Anyone can write an article on Wikipedia and it will reflect their bias. The part that I posted actually referenced sources and it is stating the position of knowledgeable and trusted men from the Bush administration. The part of the article you posted is just the author's own opinion. And even still, that part you posted qualified it and said waterboarding is a form of "water torture" (water torture =/= real torture).
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foreveraIone
05/11/18 7:18:46 AM
#43:


stop responding to de.

I'm not a McCain fan btw but the way he's being treated by certain people is deplorable
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The23rdMagus
05/11/18 7:25:01 AM
#44:


DifferentialEquation posted...
more_cow_bell posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
Waterboarding isn't torture.

what?


There has been plenty of discussion on this topic by Dick Cheney and other experts. It's an enhanced interrogation technique (aka not torture).

I'm sure if they experienced it, they'd change their minds.
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DifferentialEquation
05/11/18 7:28:15 AM
#45:


The23rdMagus posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
more_cow_bell posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
Waterboarding isn't torture.

what?


There has been plenty of discussion on this topic by Dick Cheney and other experts. It's an enhanced interrogation technique (aka not torture).

I'm sure if they experienced it, they'd change their minds.


I doubt that anyone would enjoy or be indifferent to being waterboarded. That doesn't mean it's torture.
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The23rdMagus
05/11/18 7:29:05 AM
#46:


DifferentialEquation posted...
The23rdMagus posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
more_cow_bell posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
Waterboarding isn't torture.

what?


There has been plenty of discussion on this topic by Dick Cheney and other experts. It's an enhanced interrogation technique (aka not torture).

I'm sure if they experienced it, they'd change their minds.


I doubt that anyone would enjoy or be indifferent to being waterboarded. That doesn't mean it's torture.

I think you should re-read your post, then mine. Slowly.
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DifferentialEquation
05/11/18 7:32:01 AM
#47:


The23rdMagus posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
The23rdMagus posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
more_cow_bell posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
Waterboarding isn't torture.

what?


There has been plenty of discussion on this topic by Dick Cheney and other experts. It's an enhanced interrogation technique (aka not torture).

I'm sure if they experienced it, they'd change their minds.


I doubt that anyone would enjoy or be indifferent to being waterboarded. That doesn't mean it's torture.

I think you should re-read your post, then mine. Slowly.


Is being locked up in prison torture? No one enjoys that. Or what about making your kids do chores? Is that torture?
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pegusus123456
05/11/18 7:32:35 AM
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Ya'll

Stop engaging with DE
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The23rdMagus
05/11/18 7:33:35 AM
#49:


DifferentialEquation posted...
The23rdMagus posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
The23rdMagus posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
more_cow_bell posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
Waterboarding isn't torture.

what?


There has been plenty of discussion on this topic by Dick Cheney and other experts. It's an enhanced interrogation technique (aka not torture).

I'm sure if they experienced it, they'd change their minds.


I doubt that anyone would enjoy or be indifferent to being waterboarded. That doesn't mean it's torture.

I think you should re-read your post, then mine. Slowly.


Is being locked up in prison torture? No one enjoys that. Or what about making your kids do chores? Is that torture?

Slower.
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creativerealms
05/11/18 7:37:35 AM
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I thought it didn't work on McCain.
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