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gamepimp12
05/05/18 9:20:51 PM
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Im curious cause every conversation Ive seen based on this is based on either political stances thats have loving shifted and slights against democrats.

Never seen someone say black people should vote republican because it would benefit them or their families
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ShinobiNinjaX
05/06/18 9:58:58 PM
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Guess CE doesn't know
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Webmaster4531
05/06/18 10:02:21 PM
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Conservative: Black people need to vote Republican.

Also Conservatives: We need to gerrymander black people so we can ignore them.
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glitteringfairy
05/06/18 10:03:29 PM
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ShinobiNinjaX posted...
Guess CE doesn't know

So what did you search, black people or republican?
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SpiralDrift
05/06/18 10:06:32 PM
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Because entitlement programs kill incentive for people to work, which in turn keeps them poor. They also incentivize single-parent households.

But if someone's already poor that's a hard sell.
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A_Good_Boy
05/06/18 10:09:44 PM
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Black people: sons of bitches
Neo-nazis: good people

Hmm, why would black people vote for them?
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s0nicfan
05/06/18 10:10:03 PM
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This may be shocking, but religious black people exist, and they support the same conservative christian causes as many republicans.

Another shock: successful black people exist that see the same issues with entitlements as successful white people.

Most shocking of all: but some black people are racist and support all the same things people claim Trumps supports with regards to muslims and mexicans.

It's almost as if black people are individuals with opinions on a wide array of issues, and not a generic template that consists only of poor people on welfare.
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ShinobiNinjaX
05/06/18 10:11:42 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
ShinobiNinjaX posted...
Guess CE doesn't know

So what did you search, black people or republican?

Neither. I frequently jump back to the last page of CE topics and go up from there.
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Annihilated
05/06/18 10:12:01 PM
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Pride and self respect maybe?
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Kineth
05/06/18 10:12:07 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
This may be shocking, but religious black people exist, and they support the same conservative christian causes as many republicans.

Another shock: successful black people exist that see the same issues with entitlements as successful white people.

Most shocking of all: but some black people are racist and support all the same things people claim Trumps supports with regards to muslims and mexicans.

It's almost as if black people are individuals with opinions on a wide array of issues, and not a generic template that consists only of poor people on welfare.


Yeah, well we vote democrat because of the last part that Republicans can never figure out.
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s0nicfan
05/06/18 10:14:33 PM
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Kineth posted...
s0nicfan posted...
This may be shocking, but religious black people exist, and they support the same conservative christian causes as many republicans.

Another shock: successful black people exist that see the same issues with entitlements as successful white people.

Most shocking of all: but some black people are racist and support all the same things people claim Trumps supports with regards to muslims and mexicans.

It's almost as if black people are individuals with opinions on a wide array of issues, and not a generic template that consists only of poor people on welfare.


Yeah, well we vote democrat because of the last part that Republicans can never figure out.


You say that, but find me a video clip of a high profile democrat talking about the black vote that doesn't boil down to entitlements.
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Taharqa_
05/06/18 10:16:13 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Kineth posted...
s0nicfan posted...
This may be shocking, but religious black people exist, and they support the same conservative christian causes as many republicans.

Another shock: successful black people exist that see the same issues with entitlements as successful white people.

Most shocking of all: but some black people are racist and support all the same things people claim Trumps supports with regards to muslims and mexicans.

It's almost as if black people are individuals with opinions on a wide array of issues, and not a generic template that consists only of poor people on welfare.


Yeah, well we vote democrat because of the last part that Republicans can never figure out.


You say that, but find me a video clip of a high profile democrat talking about the black vote that doesn't boil down to entitlements.


Like Republicans don't do the same thing with their white constituency.
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s0nicfan
05/06/18 10:16:28 PM
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Taharqa_ posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Kineth posted...
s0nicfan posted...
This may be shocking, but religious black people exist, and they support the same conservative christian causes as many republicans.

Another shock: successful black people exist that see the same issues with entitlements as successful white people.

Most shocking of all: but some black people are racist and support all the same things people claim Trumps supports with regards to muslims and mexicans.

It's almost as if black people are individuals with opinions on a wide array of issues, and not a generic template that consists only of poor people on welfare.


Yeah, well we vote democrat because of the last part that Republicans can never figure out.


You say that, but find me a video clip of a high profile democrat talking about the black vote that doesn't boil down to entitlements.


Like Republicans don't do the same thing with their white constituency.


"But Hillary!"
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A_Good_Boy
05/06/18 10:17:50 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Kineth posted...
s0nicfan posted...
This may be shocking, but religious black people exist, and they support the same conservative christian causes as many republicans.

Another shock: successful black people exist that see the same issues with entitlements as successful white people.

Most shocking of all: but some black people are racist and support all the same things people claim Trumps supports with regards to muslims and mexicans.

It's almost as if black people are individuals with opinions on a wide array of issues, and not a generic template that consists only of poor people on welfare.


Yeah, well we vote democrat because of the last part that Republicans can never figure out.


You say that, but find me a video clip of a high profile democrat talking about the black vote that doesn't boil down to entitlements.


Like Republicans don't do the same thing with their white constituency.


"But Hillary!"

You done shitposted in just the right manner as to discover why black people don't vote Republican. Good job man, I'm proud of you.
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DirkDiggles
05/06/18 10:18:07 PM
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Teach a person how to fish and they won't go hungry.
Give a person a fish and they will vote Democrat for life.
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Roshon
05/06/18 10:18:25 PM
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Why should black people vote for the party that torments them for protesting or not complying to their standards?

Black people have started influential movements that the right wing have sabotaged and ridiculed them for.

Its ridiculous the same party commending Kanye for being a free thinker have effectively worked to silence black activists, and police them.
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gamepimp12
05/06/18 10:50:49 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
This may be shocking, but religious black people exist, and they support the same conservative christian causes as many republicans.

Another shock: successful black people exist that see the same issues with entitlements as successful white people.

Most shocking of all: but some black people are racist and support all the same things people claim Trumps supports with regards to muslims and mexicans.

It's almost as if black people are individuals with opinions on a wide array of issues, and not a generic template that consists only of poor people on welfare.


1. Most still vote Democrat unless on those subjects

2. So purely for their own benefit and not what they perceive as societal benefits, which is totally fine.

3. So a bad reason ?

4. Id agree but I when conservatives say black people shouldnt vote Democrat, theyre speaking generally, but still you cant really provide general benefits to voting conservative
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_OujiDoza_
05/06/18 10:57:12 PM
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Roshon posted...
Why should black people vote for the party that torments them for protesting or not complying to their standards?

Black people have started influential movements that the right wing have sabotaged and ridiculed them for.

Its ridiculous the same party commending Kanye for being a free thinker have effectively worked to silence black activists, and police them.

Whats incredibly ironic is now black people are truly using their voices and pushing to be heard and sure enough look at the usual suspects are shaming them for not using their voices to prop up said suspects.

Hoooo boi are the suspect's true colors showing.
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darkjedilink
05/06/18 10:57:56 PM
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Roshon posted...
Why should black people vote for the party that torments them for protesting or not complying to their standards?

Black people have started influential movements that the right wing have sabotaged and ridiculed them for.

Its ridiculous the same party commending Kanye for being a free thinker have effectively worked to silence black activists, and police them.

Because voting Democrat is literally voting for the party of Jim Crow.
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_OujiDoza_
05/06/18 11:00:58 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
Roshon posted...
Why should black people vote for the party that torments them for protesting or not complying to their standards?

Black people have started influential movements that the right wing have sabotaged and ridiculed them for.

Its ridiculous the same party commending Kanye for being a free thinker have effectively worked to silence black activists, and police them.

Because voting Democrat is literally voting for the party of Jim Crow.

And voting this era's republican party is voting.... what?
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s0nicfan
05/06/18 11:04:03 PM
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_OujiDoza_ posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Roshon posted...
Why should black people vote for the party that torments them for protesting or not complying to their standards?

Black people have started influential movements that the right wing have sabotaged and ridiculed them for.

Its ridiculous the same party commending Kanye for being a free thinker have effectively worked to silence black activists, and police them.

Because voting Democrat is literally voting for the party of Jim Crow.

And voting this era's republican party is voting.... what?


We have unemployment at levels unseen for decades. The stock market is up 30% since election night. We MAY be in the era where N and S korea reunite (and the S. Korean president has repeatedly, explicitly said it was the republican president that made it possible).

Maybe this era's republican party is voting for... economic success and a bullish foreign policy that doesn't rely on war to get things done?
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foreveraIone
05/06/18 11:04:05 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
Roshon posted...
Why should black people vote for the party that torments them for protesting or not complying to their standards?

Black people have started influential movements that the right wing have sabotaged and ridiculed them for.

Its ridiculous the same party commending Kanye for being a free thinker have effectively worked to silence black activists, and police them.

Because voting Democrat is literally voting for the party of Jim Crow.

I know this guy is ignore use worthy but he is literally the reason minorities don't vote republican.
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foreveraIone
05/06/18 11:04:58 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
and a bullish foreign policy that doesn't rely on war to get things done?

We literally have John Bolton as NSA and war with Iran is more likely than ever.

Do people not realize that neocons are the most war hungry people ever?
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s0nicfan
05/06/18 11:08:07 PM
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foreveraIone posted...
s0nicfan posted...
and a bullish foreign policy that doesn't rely on war to get things done?

We literally have John Bolton as NSA and war with Iran is more likely than ever.

Do people not realize that neocons are the most war hungry people ever?


We could have gone to war with Syria twice now for "crossing the red line" and we didn't.
I've been hearing "we're going to end up in a war with N. Korea" until suddenly we didn't.

I think you're exaggerating here, and if war were to happen against Iran, it would have FAR more to do with Saudi Arabia and Israel's new union against Iran than US policy.
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_OujiDoza_
05/06/18 11:08:47 PM
#25:


s0nicfan posted...
_OujiDoza_ posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Roshon posted...
Why should black people vote for the party that torments them for protesting or not complying to their standards?

Black people have started influential movements that the right wing have sabotaged and ridiculed them for.

Its ridiculous the same party commending Kanye for being a free thinker have effectively worked to silence black activists, and police them.

Because voting Democrat is literally voting for the party of Jim Crow.

And voting this era's republican party is voting.... what?


We have unemployment at levels unseen for decades. The stock market is up 30% since election night. We MAY be in the era where N and S korea reunite (and the S. Korean president has repeatedly, explicitly said it was the republican president that made it possible).

Maybe this era's republican party is voting for... economic success and a bullish foreign policy that doesn't rely on war to get things done?

Ah, so we should vote for the party that cares even less now than they did in the 60's? I'm so glad I'm not a prisoner to the two party chuckle fuck.
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Annihilated
05/06/18 11:13:40 PM
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foreveraIone posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Roshon posted...
Why should black people vote for the party that torments them for protesting or not complying to their standards?

Black people have started influential movements that the right wing have sabotaged and ridiculed them for.

Its ridiculous the same party commending Kanye for being a free thinker have effectively worked to silence black activists, and police them.

Because voting Democrat is literally voting for the party of Jim Crow.

I know this guy is ignore use worthy but he is literally the reason minorities don't vote republican.


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A_Good_Boy
05/06/18 11:25:07 PM
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_OujiDoza_ posted...
Roshon posted...
Why should black people vote for the party that torments them for protesting or not complying to their standards?

Black people have started influential movements that the right wing have sabotaged and ridiculed them for.

Its ridiculous the same party commending Kanye for being a free thinker have effectively worked to silence black activists, and police them.

Whats incredibly ironic is now black people are truly using their voices and pushing to be heard and sure enough look at the usual suspects are shaming them for not using their voices to prop up said suspects.

Hoooo boi are the suspect's true colors showing.

It's truly mindboggling how people think that ignoring what black people say when they explain why they don't vote Republican will somehow help them find the solution in why black people don't vote Republican.
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_OujiDoza_
05/06/18 11:26:19 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
_OujiDoza_ posted...
Roshon posted...
Why should black people vote for the party that torments them for protesting or not complying to their standards?

Black people have started influential movements that the right wing have sabotaged and ridiculed them for.

Its ridiculous the same party commending Kanye for being a free thinker have effectively worked to silence black activists, and police them.

Whats incredibly ironic is now black people are truly using their voices and pushing to be heard and sure enough look at the usual suspects are shaming them for not using their voices to prop up said suspects.

Hoooo boi are the suspect's true colors showing.

It's truly mindboggling how people think that ignoring what black people say when they explain why they don't vote Republican will somehow help them find the solution in why black people don't vote Republican.

Don't you dare hurt em'
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Kineth
05/06/18 11:26:45 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Kineth posted...
s0nicfan posted...
This may be shocking, but religious black people exist, and they support the same conservative christian causes as many republicans.

Another shock: successful black people exist that see the same issues with entitlements as successful white people.

Most shocking of all: but some black people are racist and support all the same things people claim Trumps supports with regards to muslims and mexicans.

It's almost as if black people are individuals with opinions on a wide array of issues, and not a generic template that consists only of poor people on welfare.


Yeah, well we vote democrat because of the last part that Republicans can never figure out.


You say that, but find me a video clip of a high profile democrat talking about the black vote that doesn't boil down to entitlements.


I'm sorry, why the fuck do I need to do that for you?
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_OujiDoza_
05/06/18 11:27:54 PM
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Kineth posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Kineth posted...
s0nicfan posted...
This may be shocking, but religious black people exist, and they support the same conservative christian causes as many republicans.

Another shock: successful black people exist that see the same issues with entitlements as successful white people.

Most shocking of all: but some black people are racist and support all the same things people claim Trumps supports with regards to muslims and mexicans.

It's almost as if black people are individuals with opinions on a wide array of issues, and not a generic template that consists only of poor people on welfare.


Yeah, well we vote democrat because of the last part that Republicans can never figure out.


You say that, but find me a video clip of a high profile democrat talking about the black vote that doesn't boil down to entitlements.


I'm sorry, why the fuck do I need to do that for you?

Because he can't find clips of people he's spent his whole life ignoring, duuh
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foreveraIone
05/06/18 11:28:37 PM
#31:


s0nicfan posted...
foreveraIone posted...
s0nicfan posted...
and a bullish foreign policy that doesn't rely on war to get things done?

We literally have John Bolton as NSA and war with Iran is more likely than ever.

Do people not realize that neocons are the most war hungry people ever?


We could have gone to war with Syria twice now for "crossing the red line" and we didn't.
I've been hearing "we're going to end up in a war with N. Korea" until suddenly we didn't.

I think you're exaggerating here, and if war were to happen against Iran, it would have FAR more to do with Saudi Arabia and Israel's new union against Iran than US policy.

we had Tillerson and McMaster for most of Trumps presidency. and those two are nowhere near as hawkish as Bolton and Pompeo.
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MedzXVIII
05/06/18 11:28:41 PM
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White candidate wins local race after pretending to be black

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s0nicfan
05/06/18 11:30:47 PM
#33:


foreveraIone posted...
s0nicfan posted...
foreveraIone posted...
s0nicfan posted...
and a bullish foreign policy that doesn't rely on war to get things done?

We literally have John Bolton as NSA and war with Iran is more likely than ever.

Do people not realize that neocons are the most war hungry people ever?


We could have gone to war with Syria twice now for "crossing the red line" and we didn't.
I've been hearing "we're going to end up in a war with N. Korea" until suddenly we didn't.

I think you're exaggerating here, and if war were to happen against Iran, it would have FAR more to do with Saudi Arabia and Israel's new union against Iran than US policy.

we had Tillerson and McMaster for most of Trumps presidency. and those two are nowhere near as hawkish as Bolton and Pompeo.


We still have Mattis, who I believe is likely the architect of a lot of these situations.
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The Admiral
05/06/18 11:31:34 PM
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While Republicans generally don't give a shit out any black-specific issues, at least they don't think blacks are helpless and unable to better themselves without the government the way the Democrats do. I'd personally find GOP's indifference better the Democrat's paternalistic racism if I was in that position.
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foreveraIone
05/06/18 11:31:49 PM
#35:


s0nicfan posted...
foreveraIone posted...
s0nicfan posted...
foreveraIone posted...
s0nicfan posted...
and a bullish foreign policy that doesn't rely on war to get things done?

We literally have John Bolton as NSA and war with Iran is more likely than ever.

Do people not realize that neocons are the most war hungry people ever?


We could have gone to war with Syria twice now for "crossing the red line" and we didn't.
I've been hearing "we're going to end up in a war with N. Korea" until suddenly we didn't.

I think you're exaggerating here, and if war were to happen against Iran, it would have FAR more to do with Saudi Arabia and Israel's new union against Iran than US policy.

we had Tillerson and McMaster for most of Trumps presidency. and those two are nowhere near as hawkish as Bolton and Pompeo.


We still have Mattis, who I believe is likely the architect of a lot of these situations.

And who is to say Mattis will still be around in 6 months?

we have the most dysfunctional white house ever
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s0nicfan
05/06/18 11:33:44 PM
#36:


foreveraIone posted...
s0nicfan posted...
foreveraIone posted...
s0nicfan posted...
foreveraIone posted...
s0nicfan posted...
and a bullish foreign policy that doesn't rely on war to get things done?

We literally have John Bolton as NSA and war with Iran is more likely than ever.

Do people not realize that neocons are the most war hungry people ever?


We could have gone to war with Syria twice now for "crossing the red line" and we didn't.
I've been hearing "we're going to end up in a war with N. Korea" until suddenly we didn't.

I think you're exaggerating here, and if war were to happen against Iran, it would have FAR more to do with Saudi Arabia and Israel's new union against Iran than US policy.

we had Tillerson and McMaster for most of Trumps presidency. and those two are nowhere near as hawkish as Bolton and Pompeo.


We still have Mattis, who I believe is likely the architect of a lot of these situations.

And who is to say Mattis will still be around in 6 months?

we have the most dysfunctional white house ever


Well in 6 months if Mattis is gone then I may very well share your concerns about the likelihood of the US going to war. I'm not going to claim the current administration is more hawkish than their actual actions have shown though based on the hypothetical removal of someone still in office.
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bevan306
05/06/18 11:35:31 PM
#37:


black people can be ultra-wealthy and amoral too you know
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s0nicfan
05/06/18 11:37:16 PM
#38:


Kineth posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Kineth posted...
s0nicfan posted...
This may be shocking, but religious black people exist, and they support the same conservative christian causes as many republicans.

Another shock: successful black people exist that see the same issues with entitlements as successful white people.

Most shocking of all: but some black people are racist and support all the same things people claim Trumps supports with regards to muslims and mexicans.

It's almost as if black people are individuals with opinions on a wide array of issues, and not a generic template that consists only of poor people on welfare.


Yeah, well we vote democrat because of the last part that Republicans can never figure out.


You say that, but find me a video clip of a high profile democrat talking about the black vote that doesn't boil down to entitlements.


I'm sorry, why the fuck do I need to do that for you?


You don't HAVE to do anything for me. The last election showed pretty clearly that dems have decided to take a "red line in the sand" approach to every single issue where they state either you agree with them, no evidence provided, or you're a bad person.

I voted Gore, Kerry, and Obama twice. I support more gun control and better access to abortions. You have no idea how fucking damaging people like you have been to centrist democrats.
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Doom_Art
05/06/18 11:39:49 PM
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Because Democrats are openly keeping black people down in some grand conspiracy to keep them dependent on them.

Apparently black people are also so stupid that this has been going on for half a century and they've not noticed at all.

/Republican logic
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masterpug53
05/06/18 11:42:30 PM
#40:


Roshon posted...
Why should black people vote for the party that torments them for protesting or not complying to their standards?

Black people have started influential movements that the right wing have sabotaged and ridiculed them for.

Its ridiculous the same party commending Kanye for being a free thinker have effectively worked to silence black activists, and police them.


'B,but Lincoln was a Republican!'

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s0nicfan
05/06/18 11:45:21 PM
#41:


Doom_Art posted...
Because Democrats are openly keeping black people down in some grand conspiracy to keep them dependent on them.

Apparently black people are also so stupid that this has been going on for half a century and they've not noticed at all.

/Republican logic


As if you personally have never used the "poor republicans are too stupid to realize they're voting against their own interests" argument. As if that hasn't been going on for just as long.
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Webmaster4531
05/06/18 11:50:04 PM
#42:


s0nicfan posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Because Democrats are openly keeping black people down in some grand conspiracy to keep them dependent on them.

Apparently black people are also so stupid that this has been going on for half a century and they've not noticed at all.

/Republican logic


As if you personally have never used the "poor republicans are too stupid to realize they're voting against their own interests" argument. As if that hasn't been going on for just as long.

Calling republicans stupid isn't racist.
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gamepimp12
05/06/18 11:57:57 PM
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The Admiral posted...
While Republicans generally don't give a shit out any black-specific issues, at least they don't think blacks are helpless and unable to better themselves without the government the way the Democrats do. I'd personally find GOP's indifference better the Democrat's paternalistic racism if I was in that position.


I generally would agree, or at least not blame people for thinking that way, but this specific political climate makes general indifference a lot worse.

Also when as a group of people whos in the hole and your only options are

Dig yourself out as the people who put you in their watch

Or inch yourself out as the people who put you in their help as they see fit.

I cant necessarily say one is better than the other though one does have a more clear path to getting out of the hole
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_OujiDoza_
05/07/18 11:13:38 AM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
Calling republicans stupid isn't racist.

+1
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southcoast09
05/07/18 11:14:18 AM
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Because theyre individual citizens with individual desires for the country.
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_OujiDoza_
05/07/18 11:16:28 AM
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southcoast09 posted...
Because theyre individual citizens with individual desires for the country.

Which means they should vote for the candidate that best suits them, that candidate is not limited to either Democrat nor Republican...I really wish people saw more than just two parties in this thing.
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