Current Events > The Last Jedi made 200 million dollars less than Phantom Menace on more than

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twice the budget.

I wonder if that means people are finally catching on to the fact that these Disney Star Wars movies are complete garbage

$1.3 billion worldwide gross, I'm sure they're crying into their piles of money that you don't like it.
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That's a shame. The Disney movies blow the prequels out of the water, though so do a lot of a things, so that's not even praise.
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The sequel trilogy doesn't have Liam neeson or Darth maul

Fair.
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I doubt anyone can make Star Wars movies good anymore. Disney or not. There's just too much that's been already told about it, that you can only start repeating the same stories over and over again. There's no creativity behind why it's still here. It is all branding and recognition.

UrCa1988 posted...

$1.3 billion worldwide gross, I'm sure they're crying into their piles of money that you don't like it.

black panther made that much.
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Its wasnt good enough to have repeat viewings. Ive seen it once and even though its out to Blu-ray I havent taken the time to see it again. Repeat viewings is where it lost a lot of money.
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Wizard!
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You ever think that the latter might be the reason the former might have not made as much?

hockeybub89 posted...

That's a shame. The Disney movies blow the prequels out of the water, though so do a lot of a things, so that's not even praise.

...no

I mean especially TLJ. It had prequel tier writing but without the actual worldbuilding and intrigue.

foreveraIone posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

$1.3 billion worldwide gross, I'm sure they're crying into their piles of money that you don't like it.

black panther made that much.

That doesn't make it less of an absurd amount of money.
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Wikipedia

The Phantom Menace: $1,027,044,677
The Last Jedi: $1,332,649,225

???

foreveraIone posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

$1.3 billion worldwide gross, I'm sure they're crying into their piles of money that you don't like it.

black panther made that much.

Black Panther made more on a smaller budget and they didn't have to spend billions to buy the property

ThanksUglyGod posted...

Wikipedia

The Phantom Menace: $1,027,044,677
The Last Jedi: $1,332,649,225

???

adjusted

ThanksUglyGod posted...

Wikipedia

The Phantom Menace: $1,027,044,677
The Last Jedi: $1,332,649,225

???

Thanks Ugly God

Wouldn't it be more fair to compare it to Attack of the Clones?
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Milkman5 posted...

ThanksUglyGod posted...

Wikipedia

The Phantom Menace: $1,027,044,677
The Last Jedi: $1,332,649,225

???

adjusted

Adjusted doesn't account worldwide fam

DeadSite posted...

Adjusted doesn't account worldwide fam

yes it does. The company makes it back in USD

Milkman5 posted...

ThanksUglyGod posted...

Wikipedia

The Phantom Menace: $1,027,044,677
The Last Jedi: $1,332,649,225

???

adjusted

Wikipedia

The Force Awakens: $955,104,548
The Phantom Menace: $722,955,556

Milkman5 posted...

DeadSite posted...

Adjusted doesn't account worldwide fam

yes it does. The company makes it back in USD

No it doesn't

The Last Jedi is literally a worse movie than The Phantom Menace
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UrCa1988 posted...

$1.3 billion worldwide gross, I'm sure they're crying into their piles of money that you don't like it.

Sure it's a lot, but adjusted for inflation episodes I, IV, V, VI and VII all did better (VII obviously did far better without inflation) and III isn't far behind. I think that's the point here, if it were a good SW movie it had potential to do $2+ billion easy.
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Menace: $827,258,600
Last Jedi: $618,830,200

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm

RoboLaserGandhi posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

That's a shame. The Disney movies blow the prequels out of the water, though so do a lot of a things, so that's not even praise.

...no

I mean especially TLJ. It had prequel tier writing but without the actual worldbuilding and intrigue.

There was almost zero intrigue in the prequels, but that's because the story is all laid out already. We know the main character is going to be Darth Vader, and we know everyone else is going to either have to die or go somewhere.

Milkman5 posted...

Menace: $827,258,600
Last Jedi: $618,830,200

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm

DOMESTIC GROSSES

You can't read?

wah_wah_wah posted...

RoboLaserGandhi posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

That's a shame. The Disney movies blow the prequels out of the water, though so do a lot of a things, so that's not even praise.

...no

I mean especially TLJ. It had prequel tier writing but without the actual worldbuilding and intrigue.

There was almost zero intrigue in the prequels, but that's because the story is all laid out already. We know the main character is going to be Darth Vader, and we know everyone else is going to either have to die or go somewhere.

As much as I hate prequels, that's the least of those movie's problems. The first movie is like an hour and a half of intergalactic CSPAN, CGI characters, and trade negotiations.

voldothegr8 posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

$1.3 billion worldwide gross, I'm sure they're crying into their piles of money that you don't like it.

Sure it's a lot, but adjusted for inflation episodes I, IV, V, VI and VII all did better (VII obviously did far better without inflation) and III isn't far behind. I think that's the point here, if it were a good SW movie it had potential to do $2+ billion easy.

TFA made a scratch over 2 billion and that was the big comeback movie. Where is that extra money coming from?
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DeadSite posted...

You can't read?

oops, guess not

Milkman5 posted...

foreveraIone posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

$1.3 billion worldwide gross, I'm sure they're crying into their piles of money that you don't like it.

black panther made that much.

Black Panther made more on a smaller budget and they didn't have to spend billions to buy the property

... if you don't count buying Marvel for $4 billion

it's crazy how TLJ is so polarizing. 91% critic score on RT but a 47% audience score
I walked out of it with a group of friends -- half of us loved it and the other half hated it
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Darmik posted...

voldothegr8 posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

$1.3 billion worldwide gross, I'm sure they're crying into their piles of money that you don't like it.

Sure it's a lot, but adjusted for inflation episodes I, IV, V, VI and VII all did better (VII obviously did far better without inflation) and III isn't far behind. I think that's the point here, if it were a good SW movie it had potential to do $2+ billion easy.

TFA made a scratch over 2 billion and that was the big comeback movie. Where is that extra money coming from?

Repeat viewings and great word of mouth, which TLJ had far less to almost none of.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

The Last Jedi is literally a worse movie than The Phantom Menace

+ AotC
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Just fucking let Kevin Smith direct one!

I'm sure that Disney execs are crying themselves to sleep because the last Star Wars movie only made a Mt. Kilimanjaro size pile of money rather than a Mt. Everest size one.
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Deploying the Coast Guard to save TC from his sinking ship
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voldothegr8 posted...

Darmik posted...

voldothegr8 posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

$1.3 billion worldwide gross, I'm sure they're crying into their piles of money that you don't like it.

Sure it's a lot, but adjusted for inflation episodes I, IV, V, VI and VII all did better (VII obviously did far better without inflation) and III isn't far behind. I think that's the point here, if it were a good SW movie it had potential to do $2+ billion easy.

TFA made a scratch over 2 billion and that was the big comeback movie. Where is that extra money coming from?

Repeat viewings and great word of mouth, which TLJ had far less to almost none of.

And you don't think 1.3 billion with no repeat viewings or word of mouth is remarkable?
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voldothegr8 posted...

Darmik posted...

voldothegr8 posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

$1.3 billion worldwide gross, I'm sure they're crying into their piles of money that you don't like it.

Sure it's a lot, but adjusted for inflation episodes I, IV, V, VI and VII all did better (VII obviously did far better without inflation) and III isn't far behind. I think that's the point here, if it were a good SW movie it had potential to do $2+ billion easy.

TFA made a scratch over 2 billion and that was the big comeback movie. Where is that extra money coming from?

Repeat viewings and great word of mouth, which TLJ had far less to almost none of.

TFA had both of those and also had the whole thing where even people who didn't usually watch Star Wars would go and see it. I don't see how TLJ would ever be able to easily top TFA.

If people didn't go see TFA there's next to no chance they'd see TLJ. Meanwhile lots of newbies would have seen TFA.
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wah_wah_wah posted...

... if you don't count buying Marvel for $4 billion

They didn't spend billions for Black Panther, they spent billions to buy the company, Marvel.
If they actually bought the Black Panther property individually, it would have been priced at chump change.

Keep in mind Marvel sold the Spider Man property for 7 million dollars....

Black Panther would have probably sold for like 500k lmao

prince_leo posted...

it's crazy how TLJ is so polarizing. 91% critic score on RT but a 47% audience score
I walked out of it with a group of friends -- half of us loved it and the other half hated it

Almost always I side with the critics when there is a divide like that, but this time I side with audiences. I didn't hate it because I didn't go into it thinking it was going to be awesome. I'm a little too clever for that. Yet it was overly long and without any charm at all. I also liked The Force Awakens, too, so it's not just me wanting to grind an axe over their doing this.

Milkman5 posted...

wah_wah_wah posted...

... if you don't count buying Marvel for $4 billion

They didn't spend billions for Black Panther, they spent billions to buy the company, Marvel.
If they actually bought the Black Panther property individually, it would have been priced at chump change.

Keep in mind Marvel sold the Spider Man property for 7 million dollars....

Black Panther would have probably sold for like 500k lmao

What's your point? They still paid $4 billion to get Black Panther. Just because other characters came with it doesn't really mean anything. It was an all-or-nothing deal.

they could have bought Black Panther separately for much less. It's weird to attribute 4 billion to the BP property when it was a company acquisition and not a property purchase

It is weird to pull independent values for IP out of your ass and then maintain them as fact.

foreveraIone posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

$1.3 billion worldwide gross, I'm sure they're crying into their piles of money that you don't like it.

black panther made that much.

I'm sure Disney/Marvel is weeping at the fact they have multiple movies raking in a billion + $ in a single year.

They need to explore time travel or something.
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Milkman5 posted...

they could have bought Black Panther separately for much less. It's weird to attribute 4 billion to the BP property when it was a company acquisition and not a property purchase

You literally said they paid billions for Star Wars but not Black Panther who is part of Marvel that they paid billions for. Whats confusing you so much?

DeadSite posted...

Milkman5 posted...

Menace: $827,258,600
Last Jedi: $618,830,200

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm

DOMESTIC GROSSES

You can't read?

Atralis posted...

foreveraIone posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

$1.3 billion worldwide gross, I'm sure they're crying into their piles of money that you don't like it.

black panther made that much.

I'm sure Disney/Marvel is weeping at the fact they have multiple movies raking in a billion + $ in a single year.

But they want growth. A billion dollars is a lot to you, but a company like Disney doesn't see it like you would.

wah_wah_wah posted...

But they want growth. A billion dollars is a lot to you, but a company like Disney doesn't see it like you would.

Growth as a company. Which I'm sure they're achieving.
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