Current Events > I'm going to read an academic book in order to prepare for a video game

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Guess the game.
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math blasters 4th grade
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OwlRammer posted...

math blasters 4th grade

Wrong. NEXT.
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Silent Hill 3
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OwlRammer posted...

math blasters 1st grade

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Distant_Rainbow posted...

Silent Hill 3

Wrong. NEXT.

Darkrobotisback posted...

OwlRammer posted...

math blasters 1st grade

Wrong. NEXT.
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Kerbal Space Program
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RDR2
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The video game of life
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Thrones of Britannia: Total War Saga?

Sea of Thieves
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Sonic Adventure 2

You're reading a book on genetics/eugenics to perfect your chao breeding.
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Dwarf fortress
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Hint
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Crusader Kings 2
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Distant_Rainbow posted...

Crusader Kings 2

No amount of academia can prepare you for that amount of incest and infanticide.

steel battalion
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Wow this topic sucks ass.

Let's just pack this up. I'm planning to read Patricia Limerick's Legacy of Conquest for Red Dead Redemption 2. I'm a history undergrad, so this sort of stuff fascinates me. Although Rockstar games haven never been about historical accuracy, I do appreciate their penchant for social commentary of American society, life and tradition. With the "Wild" or "Old West" being so strangely ingrained into American identity, it'll be interesting to experience a video game on a much nuanced level. Will Rockstar explore deep into historical facts? Or will it be pulp fiction of the Sergio Leone type? Rockstar's RDR seems to glorify and romanticize the Old West, and in fact seems to take much from Frederick Turner Bull's "Frontier Thesis."

The original RDR never really dug deep into historical accuracy, but careful examination of dialogue seem to say a striking deal about democracy and liberty--two important American ideals. I really hope to see more First Nations groups in the game. To me, the Wild West is very much about these groups as much as it is about White Americans, and Westward expansion.
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Wow. I was gonna guess Dwarf Fortress.
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I won.
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Vita_Aeterna posted...

Rockstar's RDR seems to glorify and romanticize the Old West, and in fact seems to take much from Frederick Turner Bull's "Frontier Thesis."

It's not exclusive to Western games, either. I took a whole class on how Hollywood has rehashed the thesis over and over. There are countless examples of non-Westerns that have embraced it, such as Avatar, Full Metal Jacket, or Deliverance.

Vita_Aeterna posted...

I really hope to see more First Nations groups in the game. To me, the Wild West is very much about these groups as much as it is about White Americans, and Westward expansion.

I assume you are Canadian, then, because First Nations only applies to aboriginal people north of the border, and it doesn't include all aboriginal groups.

Dash_Harber posted...

Vita_Aeterna posted...

Rockstar's RDR seems to glorify and romanticize the Old West, and in fact seems to take much from Frederick Turner Bull's "Frontier Thesis."

It's not exclusive to Western games, either. I took a whole class on how Hollywood has rehashed the thesis over and over. There are countless examples of non-Westerns that have embraced it, such as Avatar, Full Metal Jacket, or Deliverance.

Vita_Aeterna posted...

I really hope to see more First Nations groups in the game. To me, the Wild West is very much about these groups as much as it is about White Americans, and Westward expansion.

I assume you are Canadian, then, because First Nations only applies to aboriginal people north of the border, and it doesn't include all aboriginal groups.

I am. Sorry. "Political correctness" and all. Yeah, First Nations generally refers to Native/ aboriginal/ indigenous Canadians. I don't use the word "Indian" because it's the most hilarious stupid term that people keep using (even worse with the South Asian minority in BC). "Native Americans" also has its own set of problems.
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Vita_Aeterna posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Vita_Aeterna posted...

Rockstar's RDR seems to glorify and romanticize the Old West, and in fact seems to take much from Frederick Turner Bull's "Frontier Thesis."

It's not exclusive to Western games, either. I took a whole class on how Hollywood has rehashed the thesis over and over. There are countless examples of non-Westerns that have embraced it, such as Avatar, Full Metal Jacket, or Deliverance.

Vita_Aeterna posted...

I really hope to see more First Nations groups in the game. To me, the Wild West is very much about these groups as much as it is about White Americans, and Westward expansion.

I assume you are Canadian, then, because First Nations only applies to aboriginal people north of the border, and it doesn't include all aboriginal groups.

I am. Sorry. "Political correctness" and all. Yeah, First Nations generally refers to Native/ aboriginal/ indigenous Canadians. I don't use the word "Indian" because it's the most hilarious stupid term that people keep using (even worse with the South Asian minority in BC). "Native Americans" also has its own set of problems.

It wasn't about political correctness, it's about accuracy.

Anyway, yeah, Indian is pretty much derogatory in any case that isn't in the Treaties or used by the people themselves. Native Americans is generally the accepted term in the US, but is sort of on the line in Canada (in Sask, Alberta, and BC it's sort of accepted but carries a bit of weird undertone). You are always safe using Aboriginal/Indigenous, though, if you aren't sure.

But yeah, the Frontier Thesis is part of the American creation myth and is definitely deeply ingrained in the culture. Don't know how much RDR2 is going to follow it, though.

Well I sort of thought accuracy is the reason someone came up with "First Nations" in the first place but figured the term stuck even in colloquial terms because people thought it's about "political correctness."

Nationalism and national identity topics fascinate me.
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Minecraft
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Vita_Aeterna posted...

Well I sort of thought accuracy is the reason someone came up with "First Nations" in the first place but figured the term stuck even in colloquial terms because people thought it's about "political correctness."

I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that First Nations was used as a term originally to refer to the tribes included in the treaty process, so it wouldn't be applicable to Indigenous people of the US (whose government took a more ... stabby ... approach to colonization).

I was going to guess a study on Norse mythology for GoW
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