Current Events > Remember when people loved the shit out of FLCL?

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Wonder how they feel it now. I always thought it was an edgelord hipster anime.
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Big ol dick forehead
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I liked it then. Liked it now.

Highwind07 posted...

Everyone was like "It is soooo deep man" but I just couldn't get over how weird that whole anime was.

It wasn't deep at all.
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I liked it but never truly loved it. It had a sentimental quality that I enjoyed.
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I still like it a lot.
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I still like it

Good coming of age story
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TC should practice what he preaches in his sig
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Fooly COOLY
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People still love the fuck out of FLCL. It's a classic. We don't see people randomly gushing about Cowboy Bebop or Eva or other anime from the nineties. Why would we look for that about FLCL? The only reason people have for thinking about FLCL now is the sequel, which I pray they don't fuck up.

Veggeta X posted...

I always thought it was an edgelord hipster anime.

Literally how? It's super earnest, especially by the end. And pretty simple. Even through the fever dream of it's animation, it's theme about the meaning of adulthood rings through loud and clear.

Also the pillows released a new album last year, and everyone should give it a listen.
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It tries real hard to be an alternative hipster shit fest if you ask me.
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Veggeta X posted...

It tries real hard to be an alternative hipster shit fest if you ask me.

This is Family Guy it insists upon itself type criticism

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Well the fact that the pacing is stupid fast with everything thrown at you wildly like you're supposed to be swept away in a dream fantasy but with modern shit. It has a Scott Pilgrim vibe written all over it.

When you think of coming of age you think of Aladdin, Simba, Stardust, Spirited Away.
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It was a show for preteens with preteen feels and I guess it served its purpose. I don't want to brag but I guess I was ahead of the curve already when this show came out and maybe that's why I think this show was kinda cringey and trying too hard.
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Lmao oh yes, Aladdin. The iconic coming of age story . Im done with this topic, you dont have to like the show but clearly you are trolling or just out there

CruelBuffalo posted...

Lmao oh yes, Aladdin. The iconic coming of age story . Im done with this topic, you dont have to like the show but clearly you are trolling or just out there

I knew I had you tagged as "Quick to call everyone a troll" for a reason.
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Veggeta X posted...

Well the fact that the pacing is stupid fast with everything thrown at you wildly like you're supposed to be swept away in a dream fantasy but with modern shit. It has a Scott Pilgrim vibe written all over it.

When you think of coming of age you think of Aladdin, Simba, Stardust, Spirited Away.

But it came out like six years before Scott Pilgrim got published. And really the stories are kind thematically the opposite of one another.

Scott Pilgrim is a story of arrested development caused by Scott's inability to take responsibility for himself and how that damages his relationships.

FLCL is a story about a kid who imagines himself to be an adult who gets reality checked by puberty and learns to live mindfully as a kid, while also accepting the inherent imperfection of maturity.

CruelBuffalo posted...

Lmao oh yes, Aladdin. The iconic coming of age story . Im done with this topic, you dont have to like the show but clearly you are trolling or just out there

It makes sense. Aladdin disguises himself as a Prince to live the life he wants, only to learn that what really mattered was who he was inside.
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Paranoia Agent was better
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I hate when people say "they said it was deep but it wasn't". Do people really think that there isn't one thing out there that they might not understand as well as others. Or they are so insecure the thought of someone understanding something they don't urks them to a point they have to protect themselves by convincing themselves others are just faking it.

Btw I liked FLCL when I was young but I never completely understood it
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hollow_shrine posted...

FLCL is a story about a kid who imagines himself to be an adult who gets reality checked by puberty and learns to live mindfully as a kid, while also accepting the inherent imperfection of maturity.

The theme of coming of age for FLCL is actually subtle if you ask me and the show was super blasted with THE ROBOTS ARE COMING. It's not really a good relatable story unless, like I said, you're a preteen going through all the phases that comes with being a preteen.

And my comparison to SP was more to the visual aesthetic and wild edgy pacing.
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Lost_All_Senses posted...

I hate when people say "they said it was deep but it wasn't". Do people really think that there isn't one thing out there that they might not understand as well as others. Or they are so insecure the thought of someone understanding something they don't urks them to a point they have to protect themselves by convincing themselves others are just faking it.

A perfect example of this would be Fight Club. During it's craze people thought it was the most layered indepth 5D chess shit in the world that only scholars from the future could come properly interpret. People make shit way more than it is to maximize their fanboyism to the product is all it is.
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Veggeta X posted...

Lost_All_Senses posted...

I hate when people say "they said it was deep but it wasn't". Do people really think that there isn't one thing out there that they might not understand as well as others. Or they are so insecure the thought of someone understanding something they don't urks them to a point they have to protect themselves by convincing themselves others are just faking it.

A perfect example of this would be Fight Club. During it's craze people thought it was the most layered indepth 5D chess shit in the world that only scholars from the future could come properly interpret. People make shit way more than it is to maximize their fanboyism to the product is all it is.

There will always be people that reach but there are more people who think "If I don't understand it it's bullshit" imo.
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EverDownward posted...

Paranoia Agent was better

I'd struggle with that. From a craft standpoint FLCL is better. It's a tightly woven narrative that manages to juggle several themes at once across the series before wrapping everything up neatly with a bow at the end. There is no filler. Most scenes and lines of dialog are doing double duty. I've never seen an anime do so much with so little. Its messages is a pretty universal and accessible one. It's not saying anything people hadn't heard before.

Paranoia Agent is also pretty tight, but it does meander maybe once or twice. Half of the series's narrative operates in a very traditional episodic fashion before the midpoint when things get a bit wacky. I actually love how the narrative and form of Paranoia Agent parallel each other there, but with those vignettes (there are like five or six that follow a pattern already largely established by the first half of the series) the story doesn't feel as neat. Thematically, I don't know why the episode Happy Family Planning is here, though I don't want to lose it either because it's series' tightest episode IMO. Also, awareness of Satoshi Kon's criticism of 'kawaiisa' pop culture in Japan is outside reading that you kind of need to penetrate some of the messaging here.
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Veggeta X posted...

The theme of coming of age for FLCL is actually subtle

Lmfao

Veggeta X posted...

hollow_shrine posted...

FLCL is a story about a kid who imagines himself to be an adult who gets reality checked by puberty and learns to live mindfully as a kid, while also accepting the inherent imperfection of maturity.

The theme of coming of age for FLCL is actually subtle if you ask me and the show was super blasted with THE ROBOTS ARE COMING. It's not really a good relatable story unless, like I said, you're a preteen going through all the phases that comes with being a preteen.

And my comparison to SP was more to the visual aesthetic and wild edgy pacing.

FLCL's coming of age narrative is kind of unavoidable by the time Naota 'swings the bat' (my favorite metaphor in the series because it fits into at least four parallel narratives at once) at the end of episode four, his inflated ego in episode five culminating in having that ego checked and having his insecurities thrown in his face, and then his momentary depression in episode six revealing the nature of his codependency on Haruko as replacement for his brother (the same Haruko BTW, whom he has also been clearly crushing since episode four, who knows and encourages that crush for nefarious purposes), and the conclusion that helps Naota rediscover some perspective.

We've come a long way from the boy who affects 'adult' seriousness and refuses to believe in the outrageous (even as it's happening to him), because only kids entertain their fantasies. Naota learns to be honest with himself. You can't not see the coming of age story here.

Also, anime needs more Haruko. She's everything. She's like Bayonetta in that she is entirely subject, even as she plays up being an object to get what she wants. And when she needs to kick ass, she'll switch gears without a moment's hesitation.
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She was a preteen Deadpool.
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FLCL is still awesome.
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FLCL is such overrated garbage

FLCL sucks
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It's funny when people interpret it super surface even when the metaphor is super obvious, and then claim that they were above it.
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Veggeta X posted...

She was a preteen Deadpool.

Deadpool is kind of one note, though where Haruko is a kitchen sink.

- She's a flying brick superhero from some manga.
- She's also your down-to-Earth big sister tomgirl who gives you life advice makes fun of you when you get maudlin.
- She's a vulgar screw up and a compulsive liar, who tells lies so outlandish she clearly never expected anyone to believe them in the first place (their loss).
- But she's also this seductress masquerading as the housemaid who is very likely having sex with your dad (or strongly implying it) to make you jealous, and flirting with you to make him jealous? Why?
- And is she carrying on a conversation with your cat?
- And apparently she's done something like this before to another kid similar to yourself like twenty years ago, what's that about? Did she do this accessible mature older woman tease routine with him too?
- And she's almost definitely responsible for the big bad robots you keep having to fight and only pretends to know nothing

TBH she kind of has to be super interesting, though. Because without her, there's no plot.
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That anime is overrated as shit.
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I liked FLCL because it was fun, looked cool, and had an awesome soundtrack.

I don't care whether it was super deep or not.
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Hollow you is good people

That's a little reaching IMO to explain what she is but hey man I'm okay that you're a fan.
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ImAMarvel posted...

Most people still love it. What are you on, TC?

I dunno I think it's pretty even ITT.
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