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averagejoel
04/28/18 9:13:39 AM
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it's almost as though they only like free thought when it's their own thoughts
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thelovefist
04/28/18 9:15:00 AM
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Averagelol topic
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RoboLaserGandhi
04/28/18 9:16:26 AM
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Part of it is that we already know Kanye is batshit insane.
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foreveraIone
04/28/18 9:17:31 AM
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shut up and dribble
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Southernfatman
04/28/18 9:20:41 AM
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"Celebrities need to stay out of politics"

*Votes for and worships Ronald Regan and Donald Trump*
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D-Lo_BrownTown
04/28/18 9:21:24 AM
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averagejoel posted...
it's almost as though they only like free thought when it's their own thoughts


All of my leftist friends have been melting down over Kanye for the past couple days.

Many have said he should stick to music.

It's almost as if there are dipshits on both sides


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Slayerblade11
04/28/18 9:24:29 AM
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Kaepernick - This country oppresses black people, I'm gonna protest by sitting during the anthem.

Kanye - I support trump and people should think for themselves.

Very comparable.
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ledbowman
04/28/18 9:27:08 AM
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so weird
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averagejoel
04/28/18 9:28:25 AM
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
averagejoel posted...
it's almost as though they only like free thought when it's their own thoughts


All of my leftist friends have been melting down over Kanye for the past couple days.

Many have said he should stick to music.

It's almost as if there are dipshits on both sides


actual leftists, or liberals?

and are they saying he should stick to music, or saying that he makes good music but is also a dumbass?
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UnfairRepresent
04/28/18 9:29:08 AM
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Kanye has been protesting?

News to me
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TheRealDill2000
04/28/18 9:33:46 AM
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Kanye is actually spreading a good message. Kaep is disrespecting our nation.
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ledbowman
04/28/18 9:36:24 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Kanye has been protesting?

News to me

TheRealDill2000 posted...
Kanye is actually spreading a good message. Kaep is disrespecting our nation.

so much for free thought.
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Vertania
04/28/18 9:41:09 AM
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There's a reason they're called "music artists." A big part of what artists do is express their views, including things like politics.

Football players are famous for playing football. Nobody really cares or wants to hear about their thoughts on politics.
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TheRealDill2000
04/28/18 11:57:19 AM
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ledbowman posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Kanye has been protesting?

News to me

TheRealDill2000 posted...
Kanye is actually spreading a good message. Kaep is disrespecting our nation.

so much for free thought.

I'm not following your post. On Fox News, they would often discuss how Kaep is disrespecting our flag and military. One of my friends was in the national guard, and I'm trying to explain this to him.

Kanye is pushing the message that we (African Americans) do not have to blindly follow the democratic party. He is inspiring us to make our own path through life.
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UnfairRepresent
04/28/18 12:21:14 PM
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ledbowman posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Kanye has been protesting?


so much for free thought.


Wut. How is that opposing free thought? I asked if Kanye had been protesting like Colin.

If Kanye was standing outside abortion clinics screaming at women and jumping up and down on lifelike babydolls while shouting "THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING!" I'd see the point.

But going "One man is actively protesting controversial issues in a way millions find offensive on global TV and the other sent out a nice tweet encouraging being open minded and respectful. It's hypocritical to support one but not the other" is insanity.
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iamintents
04/28/18 12:22:48 PM
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averagejoel posted...
it's almost as though they only like free thought when it's their own thoughts

republicans are cowards. this is known
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jumi
04/28/18 12:25:49 PM
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Vertania posted...
There's a reason they're called "music artists." A big part of what artists do is express their views, including things like politics.

Football players are famous for playing football. Nobody really cares or wants to hear about their thoughts on politics.


Because no one ever told the Dixie Chicks to "shut up and sing."
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Roshon
04/28/18 12:26:30 PM
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Trump supporters were hooting and hollering over liberal elite celebrities like Beyonc and Katy Perry supporting Hillary, and yet they embraced Kanye and other celebrities who are Trump supporters.
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CEskeptic
04/28/18 12:26:36 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Kanye has been protesting?

News to me

The point is that Kaep was told to stay out of politics by the right but Kanye isn't. Doesn't matter if one is protesting.

I'm sure you'll keep going on though because you get an erection every time someone argues with you.
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UnfairRepresent
04/28/18 12:28:04 PM
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CEskeptic posted...

The point is that Kaep was told to stay out of politics by the right but Kanye isn't. Doesn't matter if one is protesting.

I have never heard anyone say Colin was not allowed to have political views. More to the point people were angry that he encouraged people not to vote.

I think you're making absurd arguments rather than admit your comparison was ill-formed.
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KStateKing17
04/28/18 12:28:55 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
ledbowman posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Kanye has been protesting?


so much for free thought.


Wut. How is that opposing free thought? I asked if Kanye had been protesting like Colin.

If Kanye was standing outside abortion clinics screaming at women and jumping up and down on lifelike babydolls while shouting "THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING!" I'd see the point.

But going "One man is actively protesting controversial issues in a way millions find offensive on global TV and the other sent out a nice tweet encouraging being open minded and respectful. It's hypocritical to support one but not the other" is insanity.

Neither one of those things are illegal, both are free to say what they want. What's being called out in this topic is the fact that Colin and other celebrities including actors and musicians are told to stay in their lane and keep out of politics publicly. Once Kanye voices his, those same people defend him. Neither one of them are doing anything wrong, but the fact that anyone supports one and trashes the other due to opinion difference is a hypocrite.
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CEskeptic
04/28/18 12:30:13 PM
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Darksaber310
04/28/18 12:31:55 PM
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One protests the system in a highly offensive way to the consumers of the media he's nothing but an ant in. The other has already hit the pinnacle, kept his shit tucked, and now that he's ascended beyond needing the framework that the media he's involved in provides is speaking his mind (twice as offensive in their eyes) to walk your own path.

Really comparable. Better comparison here is Tim Allen/Kaep. Very similar. Kaep protests in a way that pisses off the fans, which pisses off the management and he's no superstar so he's gone.

Tim Allen talks about being conservative which is this generation's red scare, and the network of producers and execs which demand you march in favor of leftist ideaology tossed him out like yesterday's trash.
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MrPeppers
04/28/18 12:32:17 PM
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CEskeptic posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Kanye has been protesting?

News to me

The point is that Kaep was told to stay out of politics by the right but Kanye isn't. Doesn't matter if one is protesting.

I'm sure you'll keep going on though because you get an erection every time someone argues with you.


I am just not entirely convinced that modern music should be isolated from politics. Modern sports does not really have any major or minor role in politics. That's the nuanced difference, I guess. Either way I don't really give a fuck but let's not pretend like these differences are negligible.
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A_Good_Boy
04/28/18 12:33:07 PM
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Darksaber310 posted...
One protests the system in a highly offensive way to the consumers of the media he's nothing but an ant in. The other has already hit the pinnacle, kept his shit tucked, and now that he's ascended beyond needing the framework that the media he's involved in provides is speaking his mind (twice as offensive in their eyes) to walk your own path.

Huh?
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TheVipaGTS
04/28/18 12:33:21 PM
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Kaep was protesting its different!

Ok what about LeBron? He was just giving his opinion on Trump just like Kanye was and was told to shut up and dribble. A bunch of people said who cares what a basketball player thinks? How come Kanye can give his opinion but LeBron has to shut up and can just play sports?
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UnfairRepresent
04/28/18 12:33:46 PM
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CEskeptic posted...
UR right now

In other words, you have no argument or point.

KStateKing17 posted...

Neither one of those things are illegal,


Nobody said they were...

both are free to say what they want. What's being called out in this topic is the fact that Colin and other celebrities including actors and musicians are told to stay in their lane and keep out of politics publicly. Once Kanye voices his, those same people defend him. Neither one of them are doing anything wrong, but the fact that anyone supports one and trashes the other due to opinion difference is a hypocrite.


Except not because as I said nobody was annoyed or even cared about Colin's political views. They were even angry that Colin was encouraging others not to vote and thereby remove the youth's political views from being represented.

People were upset at his protesting. Which Kanye hasn't done.

You're looking for a comparison just to be mad at a boogieman who doesn't exist. This comparison fails.

It's like saying "You're mad at me because I fucked your girlfriend on your bed well then how come you're not mad that this Chinese girl had sex with me last night!?"

Because it's not you having sex that they were offended by.
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Phantom_Nook
04/28/18 12:34:06 PM
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Yeah, black people need to think for themselves and suck Trump's dick because a rapper likes him.
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CEskeptic
04/28/18 12:34:48 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
In other words, you have no argument or point.

Nah you're just pointless to argue with.
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MrPeppers
04/28/18 12:34:57 PM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
Yeah, black people need to think for themselves and suck Trump's dick because a rapper likes him.


Imagine this being your take-away, rofl.
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UnfairRepresent
04/28/18 12:35:27 PM
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Darksaber310 posted...

Tim Allen talks about being conservative which is this generation's red scare,

That makes no fucking sense, conservatives are in power and the largest media corporations are conservative.

You can't be the one in power and the persecuted victim that makes no sense.
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A_Good_Boy
04/28/18 12:38:02 PM
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MrPeppers posted...
Phantom_Nook posted...
Yeah, black people need to think for themselves and suck Trump's dick because a rapper likes him.


Imagine this being your take-away, rofl.

Cause it's exactly what the people currently supporting Kanye's recent comments mean.
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MrPeppers
04/28/18 12:39:51 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
MrPeppers posted...
Phantom_Nook posted...
Yeah, black people need to think for themselves and suck Trump's dick because a rapper likes him.


Imagine this being your take-away, rofl.

Cause it's exactly what the people currently supporting Kanye's recent comments mean.


I sincerely hope that's not what people are implying. I did not get that impression from people restating Kanye's tweet or whatever it was in this topic. If that's what you're extracting, or projecting that this is what your opposition is extracting, then maybe the problem is not your opposition.
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UnfairRepresent
04/28/18 12:40:04 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
MrPeppers posted...
Phantom_Nook posted...
Yeah, black people need to think for themselves and suck Trump's dick because a rapper likes him.


Imagine this being your take-away, rofl.

Cause it's exactly what the people currently supporting Kanye's recent comments mean.

Dude listen to yourself.

Don't you realize how crazy you sound?
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KiwiTerraRizing
04/28/18 12:42:09 PM
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Stick to sports is what the right says to liberal athletes, its only applicable when they dont like the content.
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MangaFan462
04/28/18 12:43:19 PM
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They only want PoC voices when they match the agenda.
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creativerealms
04/28/18 12:55:10 PM
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Free speech only matters when you agree with them. The right and the left have this problem and it pisses me off when ether side does it.
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ledbowman
04/28/18 12:59:28 PM
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creativerealms posted...
Free speech only matters when you agree with them. The right and the left have this problem and it pisses me off when ether side does it.

I assure you the left does not want to shut down the right's speech. It's fucking hilarious.
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A_Good_Boy
04/28/18 12:59:35 PM
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MrPeppers posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
MrPeppers posted...
Phantom_Nook posted...
Yeah, black people need to think for themselves and suck Trump's dick because a rapper likes him.


Imagine this being your take-away, rofl.

Cause it's exactly what the people currently supporting Kanye's recent comments mean.


I sincerely hope that's not what people are implying. I did not get that impression from people restating Kanye's tweet or whatever it was in this topic. If that's what you're extracting, or projecting that this is what your opposition is extracting, then maybe the problem is not your opposition.

There's been no overwhelming support of Kanye merely stating his views throughout the entirety of his career up until he said he supports Trump. He's made a name for himself in the media specifically because he can't keep his thoughts to himself, yet now he deserves respect because of his latest outburst? Gee, what's the difference between this recent opinion and all of the others? Hmmm
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MrPeppers
04/28/18 1:01:04 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...

There's been no overwhelming support of Kanye merely stating his views throughout the entirety of his career up until he said he supports Trump. He's made a name for himself in the media specifically because he can't keep his thoughts to himself, yet now he deserves respect because of his latest outburst? Gee, what's the difference between this recent opinion and all of the others? Hmmm


This is what gets people in trouble and makes them perpetually angry. Assumptions masked as deductive reasoning.
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A_Good_Boy
04/28/18 1:03:44 PM
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Nobody is angry here breh, I'm just laughing cause of people propping up tokens and people acting like ostriches pretending like they're afraid to see what's happening. Give it a week and Kanye will make another song talking about black excellence, or make another comment about Taylor Swift, and all those people on Breitbart will go back to saying he's a thug again.
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UnfairRepresent
04/28/18 1:04:48 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...

There's been no overwhelming support of Kanye merely stating his views

wut

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIUzLpO1kxI" data-time="

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MrPeppers
04/28/18 1:04:58 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Nobody is angry here breh, I'm just laughing cause of people propping up tokens and people acting like ostriches pretending like they're afraid to see what's happening. Give it a week and Kanye will make another song talking about black excellence, or make another comment about Taylor Swift, and all those people on Breitbart will go back to saying he's a thug again.


You're probably right, lol
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ledbowman
04/28/18 1:11:02 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...

There's been no overwhelming support of Kanye merely stating his views

wut

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIUzLpO1kxI" data-time="

Yeah conservatives loved it when he said that.
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A_Good_Boy
04/28/18 1:12:40 PM
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MrPeppers posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Nobody is angry here breh, I'm just laughing cause of people propping up tokens and people acting like ostriches pretending like they're afraid to see what's happening. Give it a week and Kanye will make another song talking about black excellence, or make another comment about Taylor Swift, and all those people on Breitbart will go back to saying he's a thug again.


You're probably right, lol

Hell, it literally took 2 days for that very same thing to happen to Chance the Rapper. He made a tweet in support of Kanye, saying that black people don't need to vote Democrat. The wave of support from the right was so huge that Trump himself gave him thanks. Then Chance fired back with a response longer than a sentence where he called Trump a racist, then all of a support that wave of support vanished and he was being called a slave. Took less than a day for that shit to happen lol. So sorry if I don't believe that those people have become Kanye fans overnight.
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