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dreamvoid
04/27/18 3:41:13 PM
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/after-toronto-attack-online-misogynists-praise-suspect-new-saint-n868821

Before allegedly killing 10 people with a van in Toronto, Alek Minassian appeared to have posted a message on Facebook that linked him to a toxic online community of misogynists that has become the source of a growing pattern of violence.

The Facebook post, which authorities who spoke with NBC News believe came from Minassian, links Minassian to an online community known as incels, short for involuntary celibates. The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation also reported that Facebook confirmed the authenticity of the post.

Self-described incels congregate mostly online, meeting in forums and message boards like Reddit and 4chan, and its offshoot site 8chan, to discuss their hopelessness with women in posts that are peppered with racist and misogynistic rants. Chads are incel-speak for good-looking men, who incels believe cant be one of them. Stacys are the women who find Chads attractive.

The Facebook message also refers admiringly to Elliot Rodger, who killed six people in Isla Vista, California, in 2014, and left behind a manifesto and videos detailing his sexual frustration as the motivation for his violence.

Rodger has since emerged as a source of inspiration among the incel community.

Private (Recruit) Minassian Infantry 00010, wishing to speak to Sgt 4chan please. C23249161. The Incel Rebellion has already begun! We will overthrow all the Chads and Stacys! All hail the Supreme Gentleman Elliot Rodger! Minassian allegedly posted.

Minassians post spread quickly among the incel community, many of whom rushed to embrace him.

I hope this guy wrote a manifesto because he could be our next new saint, one poster wrote on incel.me, a forum where incels congregate.

While some posters questioned whether Minassian, 25, was a fakecel the term for someone whose average looks disqualifies him from community membership most hailed him as a hero of the movement.

Spread that name, speak of his sacrifice for our cause, worship him for he gave his life for our future, one poster wrote.

Another poster wondered whether Minassian might have been acting on his own March call to action for incels to commit mass murder and serial rapes, a post on incels.me which has since been removed.

I want to see some mass food poisoning deaths, maybe a pipe bomb or two, or hopefully somebody finally uses a f---ing truck to just ram down [women] during a school parade or something, mix it up a little, wrote BlkPillPres, whose username is a nod to the black pill, lingo in the incel community for coming to the realization that a woman will never have sex with them.

Violence perpetrated by men connected to misogynistic online communities has become systemic enough to warrant attention from organizations that track hate groups. The Southern Poverty Law Center added misogynistic organizations to their list of hate groups for the first time this year.

Heidi Beirich, the director of the Southern Poverty Law Centers Intelligence Project, said that the incel community mostly consists of aggrieved young men, who have found a natural home on 4chan and darker parts of Reddit.

Theyre young, frustrated white males in their late teens into their early twenties who are having a hard time adjusting to adulthood. Theyre the same kinds of people you find in white supremacy writ large, Beirich said. They have grievances about the world theyve placed onto women and black people.


are incels a cult? it certainly sounds like one.
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TheVipaGTS
04/27/18 3:42:41 PM
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Its becoming one. It used to just be dorks who would vent on the internet but they seem to be growing, encouraging each other and taking their frustrations into the real world.
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Solar_Crimson
04/27/18 3:46:03 PM
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Nuke them.
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GreatEvilEmpire
04/27/18 3:47:17 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Nuke them.


CE would lose 80% of its users.
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Freddie_Mercury
04/27/18 3:48:27 PM
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dreamvoid posted...
was a fakecel the term for someone whose average looks disqualifies him from community membership



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Funbazooka
04/27/18 3:50:55 PM
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Very edgy trolling indeed
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TheVipaGTS
04/27/18 3:52:13 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
Very edgy trolling indeed

When are we going to stop encouraging this nonsense by assuming its all edgy trolling. Even if 99% of it is you still get people who are encouraged by it and act out on others.
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bob742omb
04/27/18 4:03:52 PM
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those guys are sad men
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SomeonesAlt
04/27/18 4:04:50 PM
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GreatEvilEmpire posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
Nuke them.


CE would lose 80% of its users.

There aren't that many Trump cultists
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GreatEvilEmpire
04/27/18 4:08:41 PM
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SomeonesAlt posted...
There aren't that many Trump cultists


Study: Republicans Get Laid Significantly More Often Than Democrats
https://www.dangerous.com/19088/republicans-get-laid/
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Kitt
04/27/18 4:09:12 PM
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Nerds can be the worst. Fucking Christ.
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Funbazooka
04/27/18 4:09:21 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Funbazooka posted...
Very edgy trolling indeed

When are we going to stop encouraging this nonsense by assuming its all edgy trolling. Even if 99% of it is you still get people who are encouraged by it and act out on others.

When? When there's a legitimate death threat. You're not encouraging murder btw by understanding that freedom of speech is a sacred civil right.

The 3rd spotlighted comment (the worst of the bunch), "I hope to see such and such" probably isn't criminally liable.
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SomeonesAlt
04/27/18 4:09:52 PM
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GreatEvilEmpire posted...
SomeonesAlt posted...
There aren't that many Trump cultists


Study: Republicans Get Laid Significantly More Often Than Democrats
https://www.dangerous.com/19088/republicans-get-laid/

You seriously linked to Milo?
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GreatEvilEmpire
04/27/18 4:10:45 PM
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SomeonesAlt posted...
GreatEvilEmpire posted...
SomeonesAlt posted...
There aren't that many Trump cultists


Study: Republicans Get Laid Significantly More Often Than Democrats
https://www.dangerous.com/19088/republicans-get-laid/

You seriously linked to Milo?


Conservatives have better sex than liberals: Report
https://www.investors.com/politics/columnists/republicans-enjoy-a-better-sex-life-than-liberals/
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SomeonesAlt
04/27/18 4:17:03 PM
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GreatEvilEmpire posted...
SomeonesAlt posted...
GreatEvilEmpire posted...
SomeonesAlt posted...
There aren't that many Trump cultists


Study: Republicans Get Laid Significantly More Often Than Democrats
https://www.dangerous.com/19088/republicans-get-laid/

You seriously linked to Milo?


Conservatives have better sex than liberals: Report
https://www.investors.com/politics/columnists/republicans-enjoy-a-better-sex-life-than-liberals/

A 2012 report sourced from match.com. Those aren't Trump supporters. Got anything more recent?
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GreatEvilEmpire
04/27/18 4:19:04 PM
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epik_fail1 posted...
GreatEvilEmpire posted...
SomeonesAlt posted...
There aren't that many Trump cultists


Study: Republicans Get Laid Significantly More Often Than Democrats
https://www.dangerous.com/19088/republicans-get-laid/


Not surprising. they have low standards and would be ready to fuck Trump's twin sister.


If Trump had a twin sister, she'd probably look like Ivanka when she was young. She'd be 1000x hotter than the modern fish mouthed, shaved head feminist.
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SomeonesAlt
04/27/18 4:26:26 PM
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Goats posted...
Can't believe anyone would hero worship him after how wussy that cop made him during the arrest.

They're these people
http://metro.co.uk/video/what-memes-alt-right-guy-gets-choked-memes-1482205/
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SomeonesAlt
04/27/18 4:29:24 PM
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epik_fail1 posted...
GreatEvilEmpire posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
GreatEvilEmpire posted...
SomeonesAlt posted...
There aren't that many Trump cultists


Study: Republicans Get Laid Significantly More Often Than Democrats
https://www.dangerous.com/19088/republicans-get-laid/


Not surprising. they have low standards and would be ready to fuck Trump's twin sister.


If Trump had a twin sister, she'd probably look like Ivanka when she was young. She'd be 1000x hotter than the modern fish mouthed, shaved head feminist.


That's a weird way to describe Emma Watson.

I doubt he gets outside much.
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ClockworkHare
04/27/18 4:35:12 PM
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Theyre young, frustrated white males in their late teens into their early twenties who are having a hard time adjusting to adulthood. Theyre the same kinds of people you find in white supremacy writ large, Beirich said. They have grievances about the world theyve placed onto women and black people.

Unfortunately, media like youtube says otherwise. Bitter misogynistic views are not exclusive to white men at all and it's kind of funny the article even nodded in that direction. There's men of varying races submitting video commentary and angry posts targeted at women daily, just like you can find online examples of women doing the reverse by criticizing men rather harshly as well.

You might be surprised by how far you can push a site's line of rules without getting banned for crossing it. Many sites are either too lenient or have user rules that are easily danced around. Wording an offensive online submission carefully enough to dodge penalties is no longer a gift; it's becoming more and more a public standard with our increasing reliance on web exchanges.

Look at gamefaqs. Sure there's alts that get moderated daily for crossing the line...but they're alts. It's a higher level of dodging penalties. Banning a disposable alt is like hitting Mario when he's riding Yoshi. One Yoshi takes the fall and Mario survives to troll another day on a new Yoshi tomorrow.

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Shuto-uke
04/27/18 4:58:40 PM
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What gives that these young men are so frustrated and toxic?

I had some friends in high school who were virgins, and even some in college! They were regular, well adjusted dudes, they were just too shy or ugly. None of them hated women.
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CarlGrimes
04/27/18 5:00:55 PM
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Shuto-uke posted...
What gives that these young men are so frustrated and toxic?

I had some friends in high school who were virgins, and even some in college! They were regular, well adjusted dudes, they were just too shy or ugly. None of them hated women.

Because more and more society is telling them that if they are alone they are pathetic.

The more you treat someone like that the more they are likely to go down a dark path.
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Funbazooka
04/27/18 5:01:11 PM
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Shuto-uke posted...
I had some friends in high school who were virgins, and even some in college! They were regular, well adjusted dudes, they were just too shy or ugly. None of them hated women.


It's feminist driven misandry to convince you otherwise. Condemning males who are virgins is classic sexism.
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TheVipaGTS
04/27/18 5:02:44 PM
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Shuto-uke posted...
What gives that these young men are so frustrated and toxic?

I had some friends in high school who were virgins, and even some in college! They were regular, well adjusted dudes, they were just too shy or ugly. None of them hated women.

they join these dumb communities and feed each other. Theyre all bitches man. Youre super nice you deserve them!...when they spend all their time circle jerking that dumb rhetoric with other like minded people it exacerbates the issue.
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DKFjalfe
04/27/18 5:03:11 PM
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GreatEvilEmpire posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
Nuke them.


CE would lose 80% of its users.

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Pepys Monster
04/27/18 5:06:24 PM
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The gun made him do it. Oh wait, he used a van.
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CarlGrimes
04/27/18 5:07:14 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
The fuck is wrong with you people?

So you are saying society doesn't shit on adults that are alone? Guys don't get made fun of for being a virgin in their 20s?
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TheVipaGTS
04/27/18 5:13:35 PM
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CarlGrimes posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
The fuck is wrong with you people?

So you are saying society doesn't shit on adults that are alone? Guys don't get made fun of for being a virgin in their 20s?

Thats been going on for decades...women are also treated that way. Theyre not just lashing out about being made fun of. They have this mentality that they deserve a blow job because they held a door open for someone. Thats being reinforced within their own communities.
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CarlGrimes
04/27/18 5:15:42 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Thats been going on for decades...women are also treated that way.

It has gotten worse in the internet age.

And women have it far easier than men in the end.
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Funbazooka
04/27/18 5:16:49 PM
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Females got their sexual liberation. Males are asking for the same.
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GreatEvilEmpire
04/27/18 5:18:58 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
Females got their sexual liberation. Males are asking for the same.


Outside of sexual socialism, it ain't gonna happen. Either you learn how to interact with women or you don't get laid.
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Prestoff
04/27/18 5:22:15 PM
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I agree, it's definitely a society problem where we promote toxic masculinity against being a virgin and putting sex on a pedestal. There's nothing wrong about being a virgin and people shouldn't be shamed for being so, the problem stems when these incels are getting some really bad advice that are highly misogynistic (same can be said about third wave feminism advice to other woman).

But seriously, fuck anyone praising this attack.
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TheVipaGTS
04/27/18 5:22:31 PM
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CarlGrimes posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Thats been going on for decades...women are also treated that way.

It has gotten worse in the internet age.

And women have it far easier than men in the end.

It has but I still feel like their own communities are doing more damage to them. Go read one of those forums. Its disgusting. Then you have people saying theyre just trolls lulz...no those trolls within those communities are encouraging their mentality.
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Shuto-uke
04/27/18 5:24:37 PM
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GreatEvilEmpire posted...
Funbazooka posted...
Females got their sexual liberation. Males are asking for the same.


Outside of sexual socialism, it ain't gonna happen. Either you learn how to interact with women or you don't get laid.


IMO this is why feminists are so against sex robots, legalized prostitution, porn and even sexy videogame characters.

They do see sex as a weapon. Men got to learn how to please them and be all about them. It's time these perma virgins accept that women are like that and just spend more time deeding and watching porn and taking women out of their mind, rather than building an immense ball of hatred and frustration that will never end well.
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SGT_Conti
04/27/18 5:25:49 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
goddamn, i never thought i'd read an article from a major news organization that actually included the words "incel", "Chad" and "Stacey"

wtf, it's kind of surreal, like the internet is bleeding out into the real world

It's only natural when toxic internet ideology bleeds out into the real world too.

Shuto-uke posted...
What gives that these young men are so frustrated and toxic?

I had some friends in high school who were virgins, and even some in college! They were regular, well adjusted dudes, they were just too shy or ugly. None of them hated women.

Lack of meaningful interaction with women. These people see women as a goal rather than people.

People decry "toxic masculinity" as some sort of misandrist buzzword but this overvaluation of sex is what's destroying these people's sense of self-worth and when they congregate into internet echo chambers and they just feed into and nurture each other's insecurities, you get bullshit like the current incel culture.
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Funbazooka
04/27/18 5:26:40 PM
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GreatEvilEmpire posted...
Funbazooka posted...
Females got their sexual liberation. Males are asking for the same.


Outside of sexual socialism, it ain't gonna happen. Either you learn how to interact with women or you don't get laid.

Sure but if some out there say "hey we're going our own way until women learn to be women again instead of trying to be men while simultaneously hating men and using them only when convenient (feminism)" there's nothing wrong with that.
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GreatEvilEmpire
04/27/18 5:36:24 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
GreatEvilEmpire posted...
Funbazooka posted...
Females got their sexual liberation. Males are asking for the same.


Outside of sexual socialism, it ain't gonna happen. Either you learn how to interact with women or you don't get laid.

Sure but if some out there say "hey we're going our own way until women learn to be women again instead of trying to be men while simultaneously hating men and using them only when convenient (feminism)" there's nothing wrong with that.


That's nothing wrong with that, but I think the MGTOW and the Incel movement are slightly different. I'm sure there is a lot of overlapping and some people in denial about whether they're MGTOW or Incels, but one group seem to have a bit more control than the other.

I don't think it has much to do with women and men making fun of men being virgins that drives the anger. It has a lot to do with being unwanted and reject. That's where the real sting is.
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The Great Muta 22
04/27/18 5:38:13 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
GreatEvilEmpire posted...
Funbazooka posted...
Females got their sexual liberation. Males are asking for the same.


Outside of sexual socialism, it ain't gonna happen. Either you learn how to interact with women or you don't get laid.

Sure but if some out there say "hey we're going our own way until women learn to be women again instead of trying to be men while simultaneously hating men and using them only when convenient (feminism)" there's nothing wrong with that.


You're a very weird person
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Axiom
04/27/18 5:39:26 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
GreatEvilEmpire posted...
Funbazooka posted...
Females got their sexual liberation. Males are asking for the same.


Outside of sexual socialism, it ain't gonna happen. Either you learn how to interact with women or you don't get laid.

Sure but if some out there say "hey we're going our own way until women learn to be women again instead of trying to be men while simultaneously hating men and using them only when convenient (feminism)" there's nothing wrong with that.

Do you post on the boards where incels congregate. Serious question. You seem to take it personally when people talk about incels
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CarlGrimes
04/27/18 5:43:13 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Im asking what the fuck is wrong with you

Why would there be something wrong with me for pointing out the major catalysts of why these people get to this point?
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