Current Events > So the main 2020 Democratic candidates all seem bad

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Corey Booker
Kamala Harris
Elizabeth Warren
Bernie Sanders
Joe Biden

Out of that list I would only consider voting Bernie over Trymp tbh
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Whoa whoa wait

who the fuck wanted Martin O'Malley back? Is that a thing that's happening?
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Damn_Underscore posted...

Bernie Sanders

Based Bernie is going to run Independent this time
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Yeah, that's a trash list
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shockthemonkey posted...

What are you looking for in a president?

Orange
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so the rock running was a joke? good
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I changed Martin O'Malley to Joe Biden

Martin O'Malley was on one list but none of the others.
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A black guy
A black woman.
A Native American woman.
A Jewish guy.
A token white guy.
Looks pretty good to me! Progress!
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Looks like it's Trump 2020 fellas.

Can Elizabeth Warren please just go find a hole somewhere and crawl into it?

Scotty_Rogers posted...

so the rock running was a joke? good

The Rock is a never-Trump Republican
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shockthemonkey posted...

shockthemonkey posted...

What are you looking for in a president?

An R next to their name.
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Scotty_Rogers posted...

so the rock running was a joke? good

He was floating the idea of 2020 but said he might be too busy filming movies and that 2024 is the most likely year he'll run. He's said this from the start.
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Kolibri X posted...

A black guy
A black woman.
A Native American woman.
A Jewish guy.
A token white guy.
Looks pretty good to me! Progress!

Token? Martin OMally is a straight up daddy mmm choke me

There needs to be four main parties.
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Sounds like another gimme for Trump
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I'll be honest. I don't know who the top 3 are, but I feel like I should know who Warren is.
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Warren already said she isn't running.

The rest are fine, although I'd rather ancient people like Biden and Sanders don't run.
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CruelBuffalo posted...

Kolibri X posted...

A black guy
A black woman.
A Native American woman.
A Jewish guy.
A token white guy.
Looks pretty good to me! Progress!

Token? Martin OMally is a straight up daddy mmm choke me

Nobody is Native American in that group. Also, Bernie Sanders is a communist.
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You've changed my opinion after telling me why they were all bad candidates. Thank you.
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I don't understand your conclusion. You think the candidate all seem bad, but you're suggesting that you would vote for Trump over most of them.
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southcoast09 posted...

Nobody is Native American in that group.

Heh. Warren. That's the joke.
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Aside from "He looks creepy in dese pics with GURLS!" what's so bad about Biden?

He seems like a likable fella for a politian and did an okay job as vice president, understands politics, has experience.

If he ran instead of Clinton he'd be president right now
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Of those listed, I think only Biden would have a clear shot at winning. The rest would have to put up a fight.
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Biden doesn't have the best legacy from the Obama administration.
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Biden is a generic Democratic politician

If he got elected I wouldn't cry about it but I would definitely vote for Trump over him
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Aside from "He looks creepy in dese pics with GURLS!" what's so bad about Biden?

He did all the dumb shit in the 90s that Hillary got flak over, except he has a voting record and worse quotes about it.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

Biden is a generic Democratic politician

If he got elected I wouldn't cry about it but I would definitely vote for Trump over him

Honestly Trump's chaotic ruination of the Republican party would probably be better for the country.
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I can't picture any of them winning.

I just don't see it. Trump will win again
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Is this official? As long as I can get a good idea about what they want to do and their track record, I'd consider voting for someone on the list.
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Antifar posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Aside from "He looks creepy in dese pics with GURLS!" what's so bad about Biden?

He did all the dumb shit in the 90s that Hillary got flak over, except he has a voting record and worse quotes about it.

Such as?

And he was never seen again
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Such as?

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/22/us/politics/joe-bidens-role-in-90s-crime-law-could-haunt-any-presidential-bid.html
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Plus Biden running would split republicans since they hate him, and he isn't particularly left wing anyway.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Such as?

Being a key backer of the three strikes law
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/22/us/politics/joe-bidens-role-in-90s-crime-law-could-haunt-any-presidential-bid.html

When Joseph R. Biden Jr. became the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee in 1987, a few months ahead of his first and ultimately unsuccessful presidential campaign, he told aides his goal was to enact legislation that would take a comprehensive approach to reducing crime.

As the ranking minority member of the committee since 1981, Mr. Biden had helped pass two bills establishing mandatory minimums for drug offenses. But as chairman, facing high violent crime rates, a crack cocaine epidemic, and accusations by Republicans that his party was soft on crime, Mr. Biden wanted holistic reform.

The effort, which defined much of his time as committee chairman, culminated in the 1994 Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act, a sweeping, bipartisan bill that touched nearly every aspect of American law enforcement that was signed into law by President Bill Clinton.

More than two decades later, that legislation is once again the subject of fierce debate this time, as a bipartisan coalition of activists and lawmakers seeks to undo the era of mass incarceration they say the 1994 crime bill helped create.

https://www.salon.com/2015/08/26/the_case_against_joe_biden_2016_why_remind_democrats_hes_even_less_liberal_than_hillary/

Let me define the liberal wing of the Democratic Party, he said in a 1994 debate with Sen. Orrin Hatch. The liberal wing of the Democratic Party is now for 60 new death penalties the liberal wing of the Democratic Party is for 100,000 cops. The liberal wing of the Democratic Party is for 125,000 new state prison cells.

Supporting financial deregulation
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2018/01/the-case-against-joe-biden.html

The former Delaware Senators top campaign donor over two decades was the financial services company MBNA. As one might expect, Biden was a reliable yea vote for President Bill Clintons bank deregulation. He voted for the Riegle-Neal Interstate Banking and Branching Efficiency Act of 1994, enabling commercial banks to do business across state lines, and the Gramm-Leach-Blilely Act of 1999, overturning Glass-Steagall, which separated commercial and investment banks. According to the Senate report on the subprime mortgage crisis, Wall Street and the Financial Crisis: Anatomy of a Financial Collapse, the effect of these two laws was to centralize the decentralized US banking system, consolidating power and risk into a few institutions now referred to as too-big-to-fail.

Biden called his Gramm-Leach-Blilely vote, the worst vote I ever cast in my entire time in the U.S. Senate.

Biden also demonstrated his fealty to finance in 2005 when he, like Hillary Clinton, backed the innocuously named Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act, heavily pushed by MBNA, which weakened bankruptcy protections for consumers. As the New York Times noted in August of 2008, Biden was one of the earliest supporters of the bill, voting for it four times until it passed.

Supporting the disastrous 96 welfare reform
http://www.cnn.com/US/9607/24/welfare.roll.call/index.html
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Warrior_Man posted...

Scotty_Rogers posted...

so the rock running was a joke? good

The Rock is a never-Trump Republican

I dunno why everyone assumes hes a democrat, he's pretty moderate but has been known to support republicans.
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It's too bed Al Franken shit the bed so hard, he would have been the ideal guy to go against Trump.
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FireTemple posted...

It's too bed Al Franken shit the bed so hard, he would have been the ideal guy to go against Trump.

We don't need more celebrity politicians.
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P4wn4g3 posted...

We don't need more celebrity politicians.

Franken was a politician who used to be a celebrity. That's distinct from a celebrity who runs for president with no prior political experience.
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Cmon guys, Biden? Where's Tulsi Gabbard? I'd vote for her over any of those corporate DNC shills any day.
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Anteaterking posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

We don't need more celebrity politicians.

Franken was a politician who used to be a celebrity. That's distinct from a celebrity who runs for president with no prior political experience.

So was Reagan.
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P4wn4g3 posted...

Biden doesn't have the best legacy from the Obama administration.

Neither did Hillary
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I just want to somehow see Biden in the debates against Donnie. He'd fucking body the shit out of him even worse than he did Ryan.
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Biden's administration legacy is fine, mainly because he didn't have actual power.
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Has anyone actually said they are running yet or did you just pick the democrats you know?
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Antifar posted...

Biden's administration legacy is fine, mainly because he didn't have actual power.

Memes are power
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P4wn4g3 posted...

So was Reagan.

Yes. I would consider the flaws with Reagan to be unrelated to the fact that he used to be an actor.
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