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Blue_Dream87
04/24/18 6:43:44 PM
#101:


This shit got blown way out of proportion. Holy shit a teenager made a racist joke? That shit happened all the time when I went to high school, but most of the time they weren't malicious. Doesn't seem like he was being malicious, just an offensive joke he sent privately, not expecting it to blow up.

Let the kid face the blow back in school and his community and leave it be. No reason to bring in all the activists or bring media attention, that shitll get hijacked so quick by agenda pushers on all sides. If the school wants to ban him from the prom, they can. Their decision. Prolly for everyone's safety to keep him out, I know for sure someone will start shit with him. Plus some fucking college idiots might protest
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ledbowman
04/24/18 6:43:52 PM
#102:


fenderbender321 posted...
ledbowman posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
"But it's not saying anything bad about black people."

"If I was black I'd be picking cotton"

Shut the fuck up.


News flash...black people used to pick cotton, bro. No different than how the Chinese people built a wall or the Egyptians built a pyramid.

For example, if the word "you" was actually "lyramid", then the kid's prom proposal would read:

"If I was Egyptian I'd be building a pyramid, but since I'm not let's go to prom just me and lyramid."

And that wouldn't be offensive....would it?

Stop acting stupid.
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NibeIungsnarf
04/24/18 6:45:19 PM
#103:


ledbowman posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
"But it's not saying anything bad about black people."

"If I was black I'd be picking cotton"

Shut the fuck up.

Do you honestly think he was saying black people belong in the cotton field?

Please be more generous to people before you assume the worst of them.
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NibeIungsnarf
04/24/18 6:47:26 PM
#105:


fenderbender321 posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Please be more generous to people before you assume the worst of them.


This is something that needs to be taught more in schools. Agree 100%.

Shut the fuck up.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
04/24/18 6:48:18 PM
#106:


fenderbender321 posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Please be more generous to people before you assume the worst of them.


This is something that needs to be taught more in schools. Agree 100%.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity

In philosophy and rhetoric, the principle of charity or charitable interpretation requires interpreting a speaker's statements in the most rational way possible and, in the case of any argument, considering its best, strongest possible interpretation.[1] In its narrowest sense, the goal of this methodological principle is to avoid attributing irrationality, logical fallacies, or falsehoods to the others' statements, when a coherent, rational interpretation of the statements is available. According to Simon Blackburn[2] "it constrains the interpreter to maximize the truth or rationality in the subject's sayings."

Something this board lacks almost wholly.
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Funbazooka
04/24/18 6:48:19 PM
#107:


Plenty of whites picked cotton. Heck, after emancipation whites and blacks were picking cotton together.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton#United_States

Cotton remained a key crop in the Southern economy after emancipation and the end of the Civil War in 1865. Across the South, sharecropping evolved, in which landless black and white farmers worked land owned by others in return for a share of the profits. Some farmers rented the land and bore the production costs themselves. Until mechanical cotton pickers were developed, cotton farmers needed additional labor to hand-pick cotton. Picking cotton was a source of income for families across the South. Rural and small town school systems had split vacations so children could work in the fields during "cotton-picking."
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Capn Circus
04/24/18 6:48:50 PM
#108:


ledbowman posted...
It's the school's prom.


And who funds the school? Who is the school owned by?

And you didn't answer my question. What do you want to happen to this kid for using the first ammendment?
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Zodd3224
04/24/18 6:49:02 PM
#109:


NibeIungsnarf posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Please be more generous to people before you assume the worst of them.


This is something that needs to be taught more in schools. Agree 100%.

Shut the fuck up.


^that should apply to both of you
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NibeIungsnarf
04/24/18 6:50:37 PM
#113:


fenderbender321 posted...
I was agreeing with you.

I know.

Never felt grosser.
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Zodd3224
04/24/18 6:50:46 PM
#114:


Funbazooka posted...
Plenty of whites picked cotton. Heck, after emancipation whites and blacks were picking cotton together.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton#United_States

Cotton remained a key crop in the Southern economy after emancipation and the end of the Civil War in 1865. Across the South, sharecropping evolved, in which landless black and white farmers worked land owned by others in return for a share of the profits. Some farmers rented the land and bore the production costs themselves. Until mechanical cotton pickers were developed, cotton farmers needed additional labor to hand-pick cotton. Picking cotton was a source of income for families across the South. Rural and small town school systems had split vacations so children could work in the fields during "cotton-picking."


Dont be stupid. You can claim the kid doesnt deserve a severe punishment for being a turd, but his intent was to make a racist joke.
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NibeIungsnarf
04/24/18 6:51:34 PM
#116:


Funbazooka posted...
Plenty of whites picked cotton. Heck, after emancipation whites and blacks were picking cotton together.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton#United_States

Cotton remained a key crop in the Southern economy after emancipation and the end of the Civil War in 1865. Across the South, sharecropping evolved, in which landless black and white farmers worked land owned by others in return for a share of the profits. Some farmers rented the land and bore the production costs themselves. Until mechanical cotton pickers were developed, cotton farmers needed additional labor to hand-pick cotton. Picking cotton was a source of income for families across the South. Rural and small town school systems had split vacations so children could work in the fields during "cotton-picking."

That was so random and irrelevant I had to double check that it wasn't a Zikten post.
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ledbowman
04/24/18 6:52:34 PM
#117:


Capn Circus posted...
ledbowman posted...
It's the school's prom.


And who funds the school? Who is the school owned by?

And you didn't answer my question. What do you want to happen to this kid for using the first ammendment?

I don't know I was just noting you were trolling like the school isn't involved in this so they should stay out of it.
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NibeIungsnarf
04/24/18 6:53:45 PM
#118:


Zodd3224 posted...
his intent was to make a racist joke.

Probably not based on the evidence.
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Zodd3224
04/24/18 6:55:43 PM
#119:


NibeIungsnarf posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
his intent was to make a racist joke.

Probably not based on the evidence.


"If I was black I would be picking cotton, but I'm white so I'm picking you 4 prom."

What kind of mental gymnastics are you doing to imply this wasnt a racist joke?
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Gafemage
04/24/18 6:56:13 PM
#120:


why do yall still argue with fenderbender
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NibeIungsnarf
04/24/18 6:57:43 PM
#121:


Zodd3224 posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
his intent was to make a racist joke.

Probably not based on the evidence.


"If I was black I would be picking cotton, but I'm white so I'm picking you 4 prom."

What kind of mental gymnastics are you doing to imply this wasnt a racist joke?

You've already read my reasoning since you told me to stfu so I'm confused what you want from me here other than to repeat myself.
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Comfy_Pillow
04/24/18 6:58:54 PM
#122:


Shit this was polite compared to the shit kids that age say in locker rooms.

but he's dumb enough to write that down and let people take pictures of it so he should probably be banned from prom / walking at graduation.
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Zodd3224
04/24/18 7:01:58 PM
#124:


NibeIungsnarf posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
his intent was to make a racist joke.

Probably not based on the evidence.


"If I was black I would be picking cotton, but I'm white so I'm picking you 4 prom."

What kind of mental gymnastics are you doing to imply this wasnt a racist joke?

You've already read my reasoning since you told me to stfu so I'm confused what you want from me here other than to repeat myself.


Nothing else I suppose. Its just baffling. Reactions like yours is why some people go off the deep end overreacting to stuff like this. Its one thing to say its not a huge deal, I dont think it is, but to pretend like its not even racially charged is absurd, lol.
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C_Pain
04/24/18 7:04:07 PM
#125:


Imagine thinking making racists joke makes you racist.

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NibeIungsnarf
04/24/18 7:06:13 PM
#126:


Zodd3224 posted...
but to pretend like its not even racially charged is absurd

I said I understand why someone'd find it offensive. I also never said it's not "racially charged" but depending on the definition of whatever that means I wouldn't be opposed to calling it that.

Racist though? No.
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Zodd3224
04/24/18 7:06:26 PM
#127:


C_Pain posted...
Imagine thinking making racists joke makes you racist.

inb4hurranddurringandoutrage


I dont think it does. But this is clearly a racist joke.
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C_Pain
04/24/18 7:08:04 PM
#128:


Ok, so what? There's nothing you can do unless you want though policing.
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Zodd3224
04/24/18 7:11:26 PM
#129:


C_Pain posted...
Ok, so what? There's nothing you can do unless you want though policing.


Clearly you havent read any of my posts. I dont think anything should be done to the kid. Its already public record that he made the poster, thats enough imo. I just find it interesting that people are trying to deny its even a racist joke.
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Funbazooka
04/24/18 7:19:41 PM
#130:


Zodd3224 posted...
Funbazooka posted...
Plenty of whites picked cotton. Heck, after emancipation whites and blacks were picking cotton together.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton#United_States

Cotton remained a key crop in the Southern economy after emancipation and the end of the Civil War in 1865. Across the South, sharecropping evolved, in which landless black and white farmers worked land owned by others in return for a share of the profits. Some farmers rented the land and bore the production costs themselves. Until mechanical cotton pickers were developed, cotton farmers needed additional labor to hand-pick cotton. Picking cotton was a source of income for families across the South. Rural and small town school systems had split vacations so children could work in the fields during "cotton-picking."


Dont be stupid. You can claim the kid doesnt deserve a severe punishment for being a turd, but his intent was to make a racist joke.

I've never denied it was racist, quite the contrary. Thought I'd share an interesting bit of historical trivia that's all.
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SageHarpuia
04/24/18 7:21:40 PM
#131:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Clearly this is nationally news worthy and the kid should have his life ruined forever.

This is basically the end game here. Is it really worth ruining a teenage boy's life just to make an example of him? He was asking a girl out to prom, it's not like he was waving a confederate flag around and promoting Jim Crow. Was what he did stupid? Sure. Should he get off without any disciplinary action? I think that the entire world knowing who he is and having thousands of haters is enough. Now he and his family won't be able to sleep at night out of fear that some radical nut might come and set their house on fire.

I ask again, is it really worth it for one teenage boy?
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Funbazooka
04/24/18 7:27:04 PM
#132:


SageHarpuia posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Clearly this is nationally news worthy and the kid should have his life ruined forever.

This is basically the end game here. Is it really worth ruining a teenage boy's life just to make an example of him? He was asking a girl out to prom, it's not like he was waving a confederate flag around and promoting Jim Crow. Was what he did stupid? Sure. Should he get off without any disciplinary action? I think that the entire world knowing who he is and having thousands of haters is enough. Now he and his family won't be able to sleep at night out of fear that some radical nut might come and set their house on fire.

I ask again, is it really worth it for one teenage boy?

Agreed. It's very easy for the self-righteous to do more harm than good.
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_MorningStar
04/24/18 7:32:23 PM
#133:


cjsdowg posted...
I think he kid is racist, but he should still to the dance if this was done off campus .

God I hate agreeing with you.
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Veggeta X
04/25/18 7:09:43 AM
#134:


@fenderbender321 do you seriously not understand how cotton picking is racist towards Black people?
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ledbowman
04/25/18 8:38:23 AM
#135:


Veggeta X posted...
@fenderbender321 do you seriously not understand how cotton picking is racist towards Black people?

He does.
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MLGSerperior111
04/25/18 8:41:04 AM
#136:


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Wow.

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xOmniCloudx
04/25/18 8:42:10 AM
#137:


lol what an idiot
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ledbowman
04/25/18 8:42:16 AM
#138:


He should walk up to some black men and offer them to pick some cotton for him.
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MLGSerperior111
04/25/18 8:44:36 AM
#139:


ShinobiNinjaX posted...
Why do black users even bother coming here anymore?

It's fun. Don't worry about us tho, we know when we see it.
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xOmniCloudx
04/25/18 10:09:24 AM
#140:


MLGSerperior111 posted...
ShinobiNinjaX posted...
Why do black users even bother coming here anymore?

It's fun. Don't worry about us tho, we know when we see it.

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darkjedilink
04/25/18 10:16:38 AM
#141:


-Unowninator- posted...
SomeGuyUO posted...
The district is still deciding whether any disciplinary action will be taken against the student, she added.

What do you mean still deciding? I'd think the answer is obvious: expel & ban him from the prom.

They legally can't. They really can't do anything about it, since it occured off-campus.
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Dyinglegacy
04/25/18 10:23:19 AM
#142:


lol

This kid is a master troll!
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apocalyptic_4
04/25/18 10:24:07 AM
#143:


"If I was black"

Should of stopped there lmao
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Taharqa_
04/25/18 10:25:03 AM
#144:


He wouldn't have tried that shit if he went to my HS.
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Esrac
04/25/18 10:31:15 AM
#145:


Teenager makes dumb joke trying to impress a girl. Why is this national news worthy? Tell him to stop being a dumbass and move on.
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k darkfire
04/25/18 10:39:16 AM
#146:


SageHarpuia posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Clearly this is nationally news worthy and the kid should have his life ruined forever.

This is basically the end game here. Is it really worth ruining a teenage boy's life just to make an example of him? He was asking a girl out to prom, it's not like he was waving a confederate flag around and promoting Jim Crow. Was what he did stupid? Sure. Should he get off without any disciplinary action? I think that the entire world knowing who he is and having thousands of haters is enough. Now he and his family won't be able to sleep at night out of fear that some radical nut might come and set their house on fire.

I ask again, is it really worth it for one teenage boy?


By this logic we should just ignore racism and let by gones be by gones. For we all know the real victims are the racists who will have their lives ruined for being racist! /s
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KingCrabCake
04/25/18 10:48:32 AM
#147:


People actually defended this? Lmfao
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Muffinz0rz
04/25/18 10:49:49 AM
#148:


DrizztLink posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
MhkaCHemistry posted...
I saw this, it's the stupidest promposal I've ever seen.


What if he knew the girl was into jokes like that? Not such a stupid move....

Then do it in private and not post it. My friends and I rip into each other about offensive jokes...id never post the shit we saw to each other on the internet


But people are free to just not read stuff on the internet. It's not like saying it out loud.

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