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Bishop9800
04/23/18 12:44:07 PM
#253:


fenderbender321 posted...
You can disagree with somebody while also respecting them as a human being. It's unwise to embrace a culture of hate and negativity.


Why should I respect someone who doesn't respect other people?
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hollow_shrine
04/23/18 12:45:30 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
How did he lose popularity? People actually listened to him and pointed out what he said.

You're being disingenuous here, Unfair. His supporters never changed their mind with his polemic or his white nationalism. They disagreed with what was interpreted as a defense of pedophilia that embarrassed them. Milo failed to take his supporters pulses and incorrectly assumed he could double down like he always does, and they would publicly have his back. They didn't (but clearly kind of still do), and more official backers sought to distance themselves from him.

His supporters still presumably stan white nationalism and toxic intellectually dishonest political discourse.

UnfairRepresent posted...
You don't change minds with an angry fist

I agree. But you don't learn about a thing by inviting it to spew filth over your airwaves and trust your audience to know they're bathing in shit. We've got the research on this to know giving him a platform to discuss his ideas just introduces more people to his ideas and leaves the lowest informed listeners vulnerable to his gaslighting. The answer is no platforming, until all participants can agree to a basic minimum standard of decorum.

SGT_Conti posted...
Isn't this exactly why people didn't want Bill Nye to debate a creationist?

It is. It's exactly what's at play here.
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The Ayatollah C
04/23/18 12:47:27 PM
#256:


Drunken_Idiot posted...
The Ayatollah C posted...
Expected to see the thick weirdo get his head kicked in.

I am disappoint.

So were condoning violence for thinking differently now? I sure dont. Neither would anyone sensible.


Some time soon someone will teethcurb him, and it will be funny.
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UnfairRepresent
04/23/18 12:47:58 PM
#257:


COVxy posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
And the best way to counter his views if you do not like them, Is to counter them


Naw, your views are ignorant re:the science of motivated reasoning.

The best approach is to simply not engage with someone like Milo.

I disagree. Discussion always wins out

But putting that aside "nor engaging" is the opposite of violence
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Capn Circus
04/23/18 12:49:38 PM
#258:


Resist! Resist!

Lmfao
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eston
04/23/18 12:49:49 PM
#259:


It's not as though no one has tried talking to Milo. The idea that an entire bar full of people who don't want him there should instead politely engage him about his highly publicized and well-known views is a bit silly
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COVxy
04/23/18 12:50:07 PM
#260:


UnfairRepresent posted...
I disagree. Discussion always wins out


And your disagreement literally ignores reality.

But dat's okay.
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Kineth
04/23/18 12:50:49 PM
#262:


Drunken_Idiot posted...
The Ayatollah C posted...
Expected to see the thick weirdo get his head kicked in.

I am disappoint.

So were condoning violence for thinking differently now?


He said, without considering that the person's "different" thoughts call for violence against people for being born with certain phenotypes.
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UnfairRepresent
04/23/18 12:50:59 PM
#263:


COVxy posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
I disagree. Discussion always wins out


And your disagreement literally ignores reality.

But dat's okay.

Google wade watts and the kkk

And he was never seen again
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Drunken_Idiot
04/23/18 12:50:59 PM
#264:


The Ayatollah C posted...
Drunken_Idiot posted...
The Ayatollah C posted...
Expected to see the thick weirdo get his head kicked in.

I am disappoint.

So were condoning violence for thinking differently now? I sure dont. Neither would anyone sensible.


Some time soon someone will teethcurb him, and it will be funny.

Sure glad I dont know you IRL then. Wishing harm on someone like that just shows youre a spiteful and vindictive human being.
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COVxy
04/23/18 12:51:55 PM
#265:


UnfairRepresent posted...
COVxy posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
I disagree. Discussion always wins out


And your disagreement literally ignores reality.

But dat's okay.

Google wade watts and the kkk

And he was never seen again


And check out those prices of tea in China!
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The Ayatollah C
04/23/18 12:52:31 PM
#266:


Drunken_Idiot posted...
The Ayatollah C posted...
Drunken_Idiot posted...
The Ayatollah C posted...
Expected to see the thick weirdo get his head kicked in.

I am disappoint.

So were condoning violence for thinking differently now? I sure dont. Neither would anyone sensible.


Some time soon someone will teethcurb him, and it will be funny.

Sure glad I dont know you IRL then. Wishing harm on someone like that just shows youre a spiteful and vindictive human being.


You're confusing me with Milo.
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Drunken_Idiot
04/23/18 12:52:32 PM
#267:


Kineth posted...
Drunken_Idiot posted...
The Ayatollah C posted...
Expected to see the thick weirdo get his head kicked in.

I am disappoint.

So were condoning violence for thinking differently now?


He said, without considering that the person's "different" thoughts call for violence against people for being born with certain phenotypes.

Source? If true, then resorting violence with violence is never the answer unless youre defending yourself. Take the high road and be better. Doing so only lowers you to Milos level if he said this.
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Drunken_Idiot
04/23/18 12:52:57 PM
#269:


The Ayatollah C posted...
Drunken_Idiot posted...
The Ayatollah C posted...
Drunken_Idiot posted...
The Ayatollah C posted...
Expected to see the thick weirdo get his head kicked in.

I am disappoint.

So were condoning violence for thinking differently now? I sure dont. Neither would anyone sensible.


Some time soon someone will teethcurb him, and it will be funny.

Sure glad I dont know you IRL then. Wishing harm on someone like that just shows youre a spiteful and vindictive human being.


You're confusing me with Milo.

Nope. Definitely not.
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A_Good_Boy
04/23/18 12:53:00 PM
#270:


Drunken_Idiot posted...
The Ayatollah C posted...
Drunken_Idiot posted...
The Ayatollah C posted...
Expected to see the thick weirdo get his head kicked in.

I am disappoint.

So were condoning violence for thinking differently now? I sure dont. Neither would anyone sensible.


Some time soon someone will teethcurb him, and it will be funny.

Sure glad I dont know you IRL then. Wishing harm on someone like that just shows youre a spiteful and vindictive human being.

Nope
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Drunken_Idiot
04/23/18 12:54:08 PM
#271:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Drunken_Idiot posted...
The Ayatollah C posted...
Drunken_Idiot posted...
The Ayatollah C posted...
Expected to see the thick weirdo get his head kicked in.

I am disappoint.

So were condoning violence for thinking differently now? I sure dont. Neither would anyone sensible.


Some time soon someone will teethcurb him, and it will be funny.

Sure glad I dont know you IRL then. Wishing harm on someone like that just shows youre a spiteful and vindictive human being.

Nope


Actually yes, but I know enough of you to know how you think. Trying to dissuade you would be a fruitless effort.
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UnfairRepresent
04/23/18 12:54:34 PM
#272:


COVxy posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
COVxy posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
I disagree. Discussion always wins out


And your disagreement literally ignores reality.

But dat's okay.

Google wade watts and the kkk

And he was never seen again


And check out those prices of tea in China!

There are countless examples of ideas being conquered via discussion and empowred via violence.

The entire Christian faith still popular today is built off the back off a man being killed by people trying to silence his views

The kkk was crippled by black people talking to them

You ignore this and justify violence
It only empowers what you oppose
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A_Good_Boy
04/23/18 12:56:21 PM
#273:


Drunken_Idiot posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Drunken_Idiot posted...
The Ayatollah C posted...
Drunken_Idiot posted...
The Ayatollah C posted...
Expected to see the thick weirdo get his head kicked in.

I am disappoint.

So were condoning violence for thinking differently now? I sure dont. Neither would anyone sensible.


Some time soon someone will teethcurb him, and it will be funny.

Sure glad I dont know you IRL then. Wishing harm on someone like that just shows youre a spiteful and vindictive human being.

Nope


Actually yes, but I know enough of you to know how you think. Trying to dissuade you would be a fruitless effort.

You're right, you can't persuade me in the merits of Nazism no matter how much you attempt to dissuade me.
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The Ayatollah C
04/23/18 12:57:17 PM
#274:


I think you can sum this mofo's life up with the phrase 'Sometimes when you spit in the wind, it lands in your face.'

He's still earning money because there are still a lot of dickheads in the world, but his dream of being a mainstream loudmouth is over, and he doesn't know who he's going to have pissed off from one street to the next.
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hollow_shrine
04/23/18 12:57:30 PM
#275:


UnfairRepresent posted...
I disagree.

On what grounds? You've at least one video in this topic, with several strong correlating citations, credibly debunking your assertion that 'discussion always wins out,' and claiming instead that trying to confront people like this using information only causes further polarization away from the truth. There's actually been quite a it written about this especially in the wake of 2016 trying to explain the election of Donald Trump in the face of all his factually incorrect claims.

What evidence informs your position here?
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eston
04/23/18 12:57:59 PM
#276:


fenderbender321 posted...
eston posted...
It's not as though no one has tried talking to Milo. The idea that an entire bar full of people who don't want him there should instead politely engage him about his highly publicized and well-known views is a bit silly


What's wrong with leaving him alone?

You'd have to ask the people who were there. I guess they didn't want him there.
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UnfairRepresent
04/23/18 12:59:26 PM
#278:


hollow_shrine posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
I disagree.

On what grounds? You've at least one video in this topic, with several strong correlating citations, credibly debunking your assertion that 'discussion always wins out,' and claiming instead that trying to confront people like this using information only causes further polarization away from the truth.

What evidence informs your position here?

The evidence I mentioned in the posts that you edited out

The entire Christian faith
The kkk wade watts
North Korea
All scientific advancement
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UnfairRepresent
04/23/18 1:00:20 PM
#280:


fenderbender321 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
You're right, you can't persuade me in the merits of Nazism no matter how much you attempt to dissuade me.


He's preaching peace, yet you think he's preaching the merits of Nazism. Come on, dude.

Sums it up really

Now Naziism is not being violent and talking to people who disagree with you
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bigboyhowdy2
04/23/18 1:01:05 PM
#281:


Liberal logic: "anyone I disagree with, I can just label a Nazi so that I automatically win every argument. Even when the person I'm calling a 'Nazi' is a gay man who is married to another black man."
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A_Good_Boy
04/23/18 1:02:21 PM
#283:


fenderbender321 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
You're right, you can't persuade me in the merits of Nazism no matter how much you attempt to dissuade me.


He's preaching peace, yet you think he's preaching the merits of Nazism. Come on, dude.

There is no peaceful coexistence with nazis. They're a cancer that exists to rid the whole of their own version of society of anyone that doesn't look exactly like them. For there to be peace then there can't be nazis. Sorry, don't feel like arguing the merits of my existence to a bunch of people that would have me ethnically purged.
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Hornezz
04/23/18 1:03:31 PM
#284:


fenderbender321 posted...
If anything, this is just going to make people feel sympathy toward Nazi.


If this makes you feel sympathy for nazis, chances are you're a terrible human being in the first place.
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UnfairRepresent
04/23/18 1:04:58 PM
#285:


Hornezz posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
If anything, this is just going to make people feel sympathy toward Nazi.


If this makes you feel sympathy for nazis, chances are you're a terrible human being in the first place.

Hornezz posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
If anything, this is just going to make people feel sympathy toward Nazi.


If this makes you feel sympathy for nazis, chances are you're a terrible human being in the first place.

Your mental dishonesty is showing
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hollow_shrine
04/23/18 1:06:03 PM
#286:


Hornezz posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
If anything, this is just going to make people feel sympathy toward Nazi.


If this makes you feel sympathy for nazis, chances are you're a terrible human being in the first place.

Those who felt sympathy for Milo will experience more of that sympathy. Those who did not, won't care or may enjoy a bit of schadenfreude.
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Tmaster148
04/23/18 1:06:43 PM
#288:


Hornezz posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
If anything, this is just going to make people feel sympathy toward Nazi.


If this makes you feel sympathy for nazis, chances are you're a terrible human being in the first place.


Isn't fender the user who wanted to get with a horse?
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Bishop9800
04/23/18 1:07:36 PM
#289:


fenderbender321 posted...


Lead by example. Be what you preach. It's better for you, and it's better for everyone else.

And also, was Milo in the bar shouting and harassing people or something?


So, you're telling me to go on and respect a person who has no respect for other people? Wow. And no, Milo wasn't in the bar shouting and harassing people, but just as other people pointed out he does harass other groups of people. So now we shouldn't call people out on that?
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A_Good_Boy
04/23/18 1:08:43 PM
#290:


Tmaster148 posted...
Hornezz posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
If anything, this is just going to make people feel sympathy toward Nazi.


If this makes you feel sympathy for nazis, chances are you're a terrible human being in the first place.


Isn't fender the user who wanted to get with a horse?

He's also the user that argued that AOC laws are unnecessary because children are capable of making their own informed decisions regarding sex.
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Hornezz
04/23/18 1:09:13 PM
#291:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Hornezz posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
If anything, this is just going to make people feel sympathy toward Nazi.


If this makes you feel sympathy for nazis, chances are you're a terrible human being in the first place.

Hornezz posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
If anything, this is just going to make people feel sympathy toward Nazi.


If this makes you feel sympathy for nazis, chances are you're a terrible human being in the first place.

Your mental dishonesty is showing


Do you disagree? Does sympathizing with nazis not make you a terrible person?
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A_Good_Boy
04/23/18 1:09:31 PM
#292:


Bishop9800 posted...
fenderbender321 posted...


Lead by example. Be what you preach. It's better for you, and it's better for everyone else.

And also, was Milo in the bar shouting and harassing people or something?


So, you're telling me to go on and respect a person who has no respect for other people? Wow. And no, Milo wasn't in the bar shouting and harassing people, but just as other people pointed out he does harass other groups of people. So now we shouldn't call people out on that?

Milo wants all the benefits of being a public troll without any of the consequences.
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The Ayatollah C
04/23/18 1:12:01 PM
#293:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
fenderbender321 posted...


Lead by example. Be what you preach. It's better for you, and it's better for everyone else.

And also, was Milo in the bar shouting and harassing people or something?


So, you're telling me to go on and respect a person who has no respect for other people? Wow. And no, Milo wasn't in the bar shouting and harassing people, but just as other people pointed out he does harass other groups of people. So now we shouldn't call people out on that?

Milo wants all the benefits of being a public troll without any of the consequences.


This. You wind people up, you pay the price. So he had to go to a different bar. Big deal. Shouldn't have been such a dick all his life
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UnfairRepresent
04/23/18 1:12:58 PM
#294:


Hornezz posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Hornezz posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
If anything, this is just going to make people feel sympathy toward Nazi.


If this makes you feel sympathy for nazis, chances are you're a terrible human being in the first place.

Hornezz posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
If anything, this is just going to make people feel sympathy toward Nazi.


If this makes you feel sympathy for nazis, chances are you're a terrible human being in the first place.

Your mental dishonesty is showing


Do you disagree? Does sympathizing with nazis not make you a terrible person?


Your argument is circular. You're justifying violence just by declaring all those you disagree with are Nazis

Yes you are a terrible person for advocating violence against people for the grievous crime of disagreeing with you

And no amount of emotional wording will change that
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thelovefist
04/23/18 1:13:42 PM
#296:


thelovefist posted...
How can a jewish homosexual be a Nazi?

This is like saying a black person is a KKK member.
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ledbowman
04/23/18 1:15:30 PM
#299:


thelovefist posted...
thelovefist posted...
How can a jewish homosexual be a Nazi?

This is like saying a black person is a KKK member.

lol you're still on that.
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thelovefist
04/23/18 1:16:28 PM
#300:


ledbowman posted...
thelovefist posted...
thelovefist posted...
How can a jewish homosexual be a Nazi?

This is like saying a black person is a KKK member.

lol you're still on that.

No one responded in a meaningful way.
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Hornezz
04/23/18 1:17:54 PM
#301:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Hornezz posted...
Your argument is circular. You're justifying violence just by declaring all those you disagree with are Nazis

Yes you are a terrible person for advocating violence against people for the grievous crime of disagreeing with you

And no amount of emotional wording will change that


Bullshit. I didn't say a word about violence and the post I quoted literally said "sympathy toward nazi", not "people I disagree with".

I'll ask again: do you disagree with my statement that sympathizing with nazis makes you a terrible person?
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oskman888
04/23/18 1:18:17 PM
#302:


thelovefist posted...
thelovefist posted...
How can a jewish homosexual be a Nazi?

This is like saying a black person is a KKK member.


Words change over time, man. Nazi used to refer to individuals in the National Socialist German Workers' Party, but now it refers to gay Jewish men who are in relationships with black guys.
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