Current Events > Do you believe Michael Jackson was a child molester?

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Discuss.
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I think Michael Jackson had cultivated a certain feminine and child-like image despite him being a full grown man. That coupled with his lack of a childhood probably led him to adopt a lot of child interests and made him like children for whatever reason (in the purest sense).

Then, when you combine the fact that he invited children to the Neverland Ranch often and spent alone time with these kids on tour, it was only inevitable that someone would accuse him of being a rapist or a kid toucher

Personally I can see where the image came from, but if you look into the case that kid was definitely used by the parents to make money... especially when you see what happened to the kid and the dad (dad committed suicide a bit after Jackson died)
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LOL @ those no votes. Let's look at the facts:

1. According to law enforcement, his 1993 accuser correctly described his penis.
2. He owned multiple books depicting nude children; these books are often found in the homes of pedophiles and child molesters.
3. He specifically hung out with prepubescent boys and stopped hanging out with most of them when they were in puberty.
4. He paid off multiple families who accused him of child molestation.
5. Look at this man: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/670xX/photos/michaeljacksonmug1.jpg
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Scotty_Rogers posted...

1. According to law enforcement, his 1993 accuser correctly described his penis.

Jordan Chandler claimed that Jackson was circumcised.[15][31][53] Jackson's autopsy report reveals that he had not been circumcised and his foreskin appeared naturally intact and showed no signs of having been restored from a circumcision.

Scotty_Rogers posted...

4. He paid off multiple families who accused him of child molestation.

settling is often cheaper than a drawn out court case

Scotty_Rogers posted...

3. He specifically hung out with prepubescent boys and stopped hanging out with most of them when they were in puberty.

i gave my opinion on this

idk the veracity of your other claims and #5 is just ridiculous
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i mean this might be the most damning thing about the accusation:

In a 2005 lecture at Harvard after Jackson's trial, Jackson's attorney Thomas Mesereau said the following about Jordan Chandler: "The prosecutors tried to get him to show up and he wouldn't. If he had, I had witnesses who were going to come in and say he told them it never happened and that he would never talk to his parents again for what they made him say. It turned out he'd gone into court and got legal emancipation from his parents."[78] In 2006, Jordan accused Evan of attacking him with a barbell, choking him and spraying his face with Mace. The charges were later dropped.[116] On November 5, 2009, fourteen weeks after Jackson's death, Evan Chandler was found dead following an apparent suicide

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No
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@YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

Jordan Chandler claimed that Jackson was circumcised.

lol wikipedia

multiple law enforcement who worked on the case say it matched. the prosecutors in his 2005 trial were also going to use it as evidence

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

settling is often cheaper than a drawn out court case

lmao innocent people don't settle.

his lawyers even advised him to settle. you only settle when you know your fucked

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

i gave my opinion on this

these weren't just children in general; they were specifically little boys. and he stopped hanging out with them once they hit puberty. creepy af

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

idk the veracity of your other claims and #5 is just ridiculous

would you really be surprised if a man who looked like mj was a pedo bro

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

i mean this might be the most damning thing about the accusation:

In a 2005 lecture at Harvard after Jackson's trial, Jackson's attorney Thomas Mesereau said the following about Jordan Chandler: "The prosecutors tried to get him to show up and he wouldn't. If he had, I had witnesses who were going to come in and say he told them it never happened and that he would never talk to his parents again for what they made him say. It turned out he'd gone into court and got legal emancipation from his parents."[78] In 2006, Jordan accused Evan of attacking him with a barbell, choking him and spraying his face with Mace. The charges were later dropped.[116] On November 5, 2009, fourteen weeks after Jackson's death, Evan Chandler was found dead following an apparent suicide

tom mesereau could just be talking out of his ass; where even is his proof that he had those witnesses? and he lied about some other shit in the trial. i think he defended jerry sandusky too. Fuck Tom Mesereau dawg
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Honestly? No
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Your settling argument makes no sense. If someone molests my child I want them dead but since that wont happen prison for as long a legally allowed. Im not looking for a payday and to drop charges when I get paid. Prison first, payday second. That is enough to convince me he didnt do it and why settling was smarter for him. Im glad he didnt settle the second time and those people were ousted as massive frauds running a scheme.

And for the record, innocent people do settle when its in their best interest monetarily and/or personally. Clearly the second time around he wasnt willing.

Lmao MJ was rich as fuck. Settling was never in his best interest monetarily; he would have lost A LOT LESS than 15 million if he went to trial like a man.

@Cal12 posted...

Your settling argument makes no sense.

lol no innocent person settles over proving that they didn't molest a child

Cal12 posted...

That is enough to convince me he didnt do it

1. According to law enforcement, his 1993 accuser correctly described his penis.
2. He owned multiple books depicting nude children; these books are often found in the homes of pedophiles and child molesters.
3. He specifically hung out with prepubescent boys and stopped hanging out with most of them when they were in puberty.
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You people are arguing with someone who faked his suicide for attention, and spends his time recoloring DBZ fanart.
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omega cookie posted...

You people are arguing with someone who faked his suicide for attention

Allegedly. That's ignorant.
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Scotty_Rogers posted...

Lmao MJ was rich as fuck. Settling was never in his best interest monetarily; he would have lost A LOT LESS than 15 million if he went to trial like a man.

@Cal12 posted...

Your settling argument makes no sense.

lol no innocent person settles over proving that they didn't molest a child

Cal12 posted...

That is enough to convince me he didnt do it

1. According to law enforcement, his 1993 accuser correctly described his penis.
2. He owned multiple books depicting nude children; these books are often found in the homes of pedophiles and child molesters.
3. He specifically hung out with prepubescent boys and stopped hanging out with most of them when they were in puberty.

1. sounds like that was not the case?
2. toilets are often found in homes of pedophiles and child molesters, therefore you are one too if you have a toilet? fallacy.
3. he obviously enjoyed spending time with small children. while weird, that is not evidence that he molested them.

Scotty Rogers topic.
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If he wasn't a revered pop icon, my guess is the voting would swing the other way.
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Fam_Fam posted...

1. sounds like that was not the case?

15 million wasn't shit to MJ fam.

Fam_Fam posted...

2. toilets are often found in homes of pedophiles and child molesters, therefore you are one too if you have a toilet? fallacy.

toilets are found in the homes of many normal people

books depicting nude children? nah fam, those are usually found in the homes of pedophiles and molesters

Fam_Fam posted...

he obviously enjoyed spending time with small children.

specifically little boys, not children in general; most pedophiles hang out with one gender. then he stopped hanging out with them once they hit puberty. creepy af fam
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@COVxy posted...

If he wasn't a revered pop icon, my guess is the voting would swing the other way.

if this poll was 10 years ago voting would swing the other way
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Also fam check it out! I found an archived Usenet discussion about the first allegations all the way back when they first came out in 1993: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.movies/yooNMwbl8PM/D9o155GkbWkJ
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he upset the higher ups in the music industry so obviously they used media magic to destroy him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56qUENYYjxE" data-time="
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of course. dude was creepy af and had sleepovers with kids and gave them wine.

every pedo on To Catch A Predator brought wine coolers to the house. It's what they do.
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He was getting kids drunk and getting into bed naked with them...
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We'll never know. His image is forever tarnished because of that even if he was innocent.

I mean, I don't know if he actually did anything bad, but he was certainly rather creepy and "improper" in how he acted with kids. He could've been entirely innocent in what he did, but it was certainly "not normal" at the very least.
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Yes, 100%
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Law enforcements said it was true, tnereby it must be so.
Right?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wrongful_convictions_in_the_United_States
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Don't care about TC, but if anyone in here actually gives a rat's ass, here's a categorical annihilation of all points in the case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pnoQqlygQs" data-time="
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'And that's Bob, he's your neighbor. He often pays parents to drop their children off for the night for sleepovers. No, he doesn't have any children of his own. Why do you ask?'
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>Dude has picture books of naked prepubescent boys

>Hangs out specifically with prepubescent boys in his free time

Nope, no red flags here.
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Not MJ, but i'm pretty sure Shillary Flinton is a pedophile.
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You dont give someone money who supposedly lied about you.

I was never sure one way or the other, but this convinced me: https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/1azrsz/30_years_ago_today_michael_jackson_moonwalked_for/c92hfk6/
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He was set up imo. Just greedy people trying to ruin a man's life for money. Must have been terrible going through what he did. Can't even imagine.

Didnt think Id see a post about Hillary in this topic, but life is full of surprises I guess.
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Weird dude but not a pedo.
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@sk8r_ryan posted...

I was never sure one way or the other, but this convinced me: https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/1azrsz/30_years_ago_today_michael_jackson_moonwalked_for/c92hfk6/

Biased af fam
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Didn't one of the alleged "victims" pretty much admit that his mother got him to lie about it?
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Were anything beyond possible indecent exposure actually true, he would have been quickly Jimmy-Savile'd shortly after dying.

@RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Didn't one of the alleged "victims" pretty much admit that his mother got him to lie about it?

Not true. Just shit made up by MJ fanboys
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Scotty_Rogers posted...

Fam_Fam posted...

1. sounds like that was not the case?

15 million wasn't shit to MJ fam.

Fam_Fam posted...

2. toilets are often found in homes of pedophiles and child molesters, therefore you are one too if you have a toilet? fallacy.

toilets are found in the homes of many normal people

books depicting nude children? nah fam, those are usually found in the homes of pedophiles and molesters

Fam_Fam posted...

he obviously enjoyed spending time with small children.

specifically little boys, not children in general; most pedophiles hang out with one gender. then he stopped hanging out with them once they hit puberty. creepy af fam

"most pedophiles hang out with one gender"

many people hang out with one gender. you can't just say because someone has something in common with some other group, that the person is part of that group, that's not how it works.

i know this white guy, and most neo-nazis are white, so this guy i know must be a neo-nazi, because he's white too! QED!

Fam_Fam posted...

many people hang out with one gender.

Most normal grown adults don't extensively hang out with prepubescent boys fam

Fam_Fam posted...

you can't just say because someone has something in common with some other group, that the person is part of that group

It increases the likelihood, tho
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I guess the spectrum of reasoning behind settling out of court is one of the many things that Scotty doesn't know.
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Nope. Not at all. Both of the cases he was involved in were proven to be fraud cases.

You people need to actually study these things instead of believing what you read in the Lugenpresse...

MJ was innocent... did he do strange things? Sure. He was probably molested himself as a kid given the propensity of Hollywood elites to be into that shit. He was beaten as a kid and was in the spotlight pretty much his entire life. That, on its own, is very strange.

But was he a child molester? According to the evidence that supposedly shows he is that doesn't exist, nope...

Scotty_Rogers posted...

Lmao MJ was rich as fuck. Settling was never in his best interest monetarily; he would have lost A LOT LESS than 15 million if he went to trial like a man.

@Cal12 posted...

Your settling argument makes no sense.

lol no innocent person settles over proving that they didn't molest a child

Cal12 posted...

That is enough to convince me he didnt do it

1. According to law enforcement, his 1993 accuser correctly described his penis.
2. He owned multiple books depicting nude children; these books are often found in the homes of pedophiles and child molesters.
3. He specifically hung out with prepubescent boys and stopped hanging out with most of them when they were in puberty.

so jackson did settle out of court? don't remember, though i don't think it really means he did it. I personally don't think he was, he was rich and could easily be sued.
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LeadPipeCinche posted...

You dont give someone money who supposedly lied about you.

You do if that's what your attorneys advise you to do so that you don't have to cancel your tour, and so you can make the 20million back asap.

Meh. He might have been.
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KillSocialism posted...

LeadPipeCinche posted...

You dont give someone money who supposedly lied about you.

You do if that's what your attorneys advise you to do so that you don't have to cancel your tour, and so you can make the 20million back asap.

yeah kinda like what kobe and tony stewart did. You just want it to go away but it doesn't necessarily mean you did it.
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LeadPipeCinche posted...

You dont give someone money who supposedly lied about you.

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Its 2018 and people take scotty rogers seriously?

what is this?
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