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StanZarnack 04/11/18 10:09:17 PM #51:	Mal_Fet posted... And citation needed. Imagine being you, lmao his views on the australian gay marriage thing were pretty famous, even you should be able to bring them up, i ain't holding your grubby hand for it. go on though, defend what he did there. youre not you unless you're shilling for the side you claim you're not on afterall. --- Common sense is not so common. <cite>StanZarnack posted [p:899498135] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>And citation needed. </quote> Imagine being you, lmao his views on the australian gay marriage thing were pretty famous, even you should be able to bring them up, i ain't holding your grubby hand for it. go on though, defend what he did there. youre not you unless you're shilling for the side you claim you're not on afterall.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 04/11/18 10:11:17 PM #52:	ASithLord7 posted... Okay guess Mal is just giving up then Right, right I gave up. Sorry for not letting you change the context of an argument you weren't even in, Wimp-Lo. COVxy posted... COVxy posted... Mal_Fet posted... ASithLord7 posted... He's more cited than 2 other professors ergo "one of the most often cited in the world"? How many psychologists can you find who were cited more than 8.9 thousand times? Interesting how he doesn't ever talk about his cited academic works. Or doesn't get published the shit he spouts. Almost like these things are unrelated to each other. I can't believe you thought this incoherent post was worth spamming --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:899498238] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote>Okay guess Mal is just giving up then</quote> Right, right I gave up. Sorry for not letting you change the context of an argument you weren't even in, Wimp-Lo. <cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote>He's more cited than 2 other professors ergo "one of the most often cited in the world"?</quote> How many psychologists can you find who were cited more than 8.9 thousand times?</quote> Interesting how he doesn't ever talk about his cited academic works. Or doesn't get published the shit he spouts. Almost like these things are unrelated to each other.</quote></quote> I can't believe you thought this incoherent post was worth spamming</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 04/11/18 10:12:24 PM #53:	If you are unable to understand it, that's on you and your reading comprehension --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:899498321] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote>If you are unable to understand it, that's on you and your reading comprehension </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 04/11/18 10:14:04 PM #54:	Mal_Fet posted... Not like that's a complicated question for a psychologist or anything. A psychologist would ask "What do you mean by 'god'". A philosopher might ask that, but any normal human can answer without 10 minutes of sophistry. "Do you believe in an intelligent entity that created the universe?" isn't a complex question. Pretending there's layers to delve into is the faux part of faux intellectual (not that I'm calling him that). Any moron can answer the question even if their idea of god is a universal programmer to a simulated universe, a supernatural entity, a higher dimensional entity, etc etc etc. It's a simple yes or no question and we'll even allow for "maybe, I'm not sure, well i think of god as . . etc" but not allow for useless yammering. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:899498415] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Not like that's a complicated question for a psychologist or anything. A psychologist would ask "What do you mean by 'god'".</quote> A philosopher might ask that, but any normal human can answer without 10 minutes of sophistry. "Do you believe in an intelligent entity that created the universe?" isn't a complex question. Pretending there's layers to delve into is the faux part of faux intellectual (not that I'm calling him that). Any moron can answer the question even if their idea of god is a universal programmer to a simulated universe, a supernatural entity, a higher dimensional entity, etc etc etc. It's a simple yes or no question and we'll even allow for "maybe, I'm not sure, well i think of god as . . etc" but not allow for useless yammering.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 04/11/18 10:14:47 PM #55:	Does Mal think psychologists are philosophers --- http://i.imgur.com/VZeCB.gif RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:899498451] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote>Does Mal think psychologists are philosophers</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 04/11/18 10:15:48 PM #56:	Mal_Fet posted... I can't believe you thought this incoherent post was worth spamming You people aren't praising him for his published works, you're doing it because "he owns teh essjews" and any credentials he has is just an excuse for you to appeal to authority. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:899498510] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote> I can't believe you thought this incoherent post was worth spamming</quote> You people aren't praising him for his published works, you're doing it because "he owns teh essjews" and any credentials he has is just an excuse for you to appeal to authority.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kid_Buu 04/11/18 10:16:32 PM #57:	ASithLord7 posted... Does Mal think psychologists are philosophers I think --- anime girls either need a dick or thicc for me to want to have relations with them im kaname btw <cite>Kid_Buu posted [p:899498548] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote>Does Mal think psychologists are philosophers</quote> I think</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheMikh 04/11/18 10:16:45 PM #58:	StanZarnack posted... nor was what you said genius, need to argue in the first place to argue back. clueless. --- http://i.imgur.com/A0TAfek.png <cite>TheMikh posted [p:899498560] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>StanZarnack posted...</cite> <quote>nor was what you said genius, need to argue in the first place to argue back. clueless.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 04/11/18 10:24:43 PM #59:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... "Do you believe in an intelligent entity that created the universe?" isn't a complex question. That's not necessarily what god is though. Anarchy_Juiblex posted... You people aren't praising him for his published works, you're doing it because "he owns teh essjews" and any credentials he has is just an excuse for you to appeal to authority. Peterson has plenty of clout and is far from a pretend intellectual. If he is, then quote what he says directly and argue against it. You nor anyone else ITT has attempted that, probably because you know you can't. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:899498984] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>"Do you believe in an intelligent entity that created the universe?" isn't a complex question. </quote> That's not necessarily what god is though. <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>You people aren't praising him for his published works, you're doing it because "he owns teh essjews" and any credentials he has is just an excuse for you to appeal to authority.</quote> Peterson has plenty of clout and is far from a pretend intellectual. If he is, then quote what he says directly and argue against it. You nor anyone else ITT has attempted that, probably because you know you can't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 04/11/18 10:26:48 PM #60:	Mal_Fet posted... Peterson has plenty of clout and is far from a pretend intellectual. If he is, then quote what he says directly and argue against it. You nor anyone else ITT has attempted that, probably because you know you can't. Isn't that appeal to authority, though? His field is psychology, but he literally commented on foreign legal policy in the Australia homosexual law debate? What makes him an expert on that? <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:899499104] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Peterson has plenty of clout and is far from a pretend intellectual. If he is, then quote what he says directly and argue against it. You nor anyone else ITT has attempted that, probably because you know you can't.</quote> Isn't that appeal to authority, though? His field is psychology, but he literally commented on foreign legal policy in the Australia homosexual law debate? What makes him an expert on that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 04/11/18 10:27:00 PM #61:	Depends. How much of what he does are mistakes and to what extent does he know he's fucking up? --- Whatever happened to standards? Whatever happened to bare minimums? https://imgtc.com/i/7UnK3hx.jpg <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:899499116] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote>Depends. How much of what he does are mistakes and to what extent does he know he's fucking up?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 04/11/18 10:27:07 PM #62:	Mal_Fet posted... That's not necessarily what god is though. Yeah only like 5 billion+ people use the word that way. I mean fuck, unless we have total consensus the question could mean anything! --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:899499126] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>That's not necessarily what god is though.</quote> Yeah only like 5 billion+ people use the word that way. I mean fuck, unless we have total consensus the question could mean anything!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 04/11/18 10:30:43 PM #63:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Mal_Fet posted... That's not necessarily what god is though. Yeah only like 5 billion+ people use the word that way. I mean fuck, unless we have total consensus the question could mean anything! If you asked Peterson if he believes in the God of Abraham who turned Sodom into pillars of salt and is the father off Jesus dies for his sins so that he could get into heaven, he'd say no. But that's not the same question as "do you believe in god". Why are you so triggered by appropriate answers to vague, far-reaching questions? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:899499312] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>That's not necessarily what god is though.</quote> Yeah only like 5 billion+ people use the word that way. I mean fuck, unless we have total consensus the question could mean anything!</quote> If you asked Peterson if he believes in the God of Abraham who turned Sodom into pillars of salt and is the father off Jesus dies for his sins so that he could get into heaven, he'd say no. But that's not the same question as "do you believe in god". Why are you so triggered by appropriate answers to vague, far-reaching questions?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StanZarnack 04/11/18 10:30:44 PM #64:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Mal_Fet posted... That's not necessarily what god is though. Yeah only like 5 billion+ people use the word that way. I mean fuck, unless we have total consensus the question could mean anything! shh, hes gotta pretend as if peterson had some deep thought process to it.. lmao he has a MUCH deeper understanding of it than us common mortals. --- Common sense is not so common. <cite>StanZarnack posted [p:899499314] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>That's not necessarily what god is though.</quote> Yeah only like 5 billion+ people use the word that way. I mean fuck, unless we have total consensus the question could mean anything!</quote> shh, hes gotta pretend as if peterson had some deep thought process to it.. lmao he has a MUCH deeper understanding of it than us common mortals.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 04/11/18 10:31:17 PM #65:	How many times per day does Mal jerk it to Peterson you think? --- http://i.imgur.com/VZeCB.gif RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:899499346] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote>How many times per day does Mal jerk it to Peterson you think?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 04/11/18 10:31:55 PM #66:	ASithLord7 posted... How many times per day does Mal jerk it to Peterson you think? On a scale of 10-10 how triggered are you by Peterson? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:899499382] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote>How many times per day does Mal jerk it to Peterson you think?</quote> On a scale of 10-10 how triggered are you by Peterson?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 04/11/18 10:32:12 PM #67:	So is Mal just not even going to address the fact that Peterson advocated Australia keeping homosexuality illegal or not? <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:899499392] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote>So is Mal just not even going to address the fact that Peterson advocated Australia keeping homosexuality illegal or not?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 04/11/18 10:34:02 PM #68:	Dash_Harber posted... So is Mal just not even going to address the fact that Peterson advocated Australia keeping homosexuality illegal or not? Mal_Fet posted... Peterson has plenty of clout and is far from a pretend intellectual. If he is, then quote what he says directly and argue against it. You nor anyone else ITT has attempted that, probably because you know you can't. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:899499472] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>So is Mal just not even going to address the fact that Peterson advocated Australia keeping homosexuality illegal or not?</quote> <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Peterson has plenty of clout and is far from a pretend intellectual. If he is, then quote what he says directly and argue against it. You nor anyone else ITT has attempted that, probably because you know you can't.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 04/11/18 10:34:03 PM #69:	Mal_Fet posted... Peterson has plenty of clout and is far from a pretend intellectual. If he is, then quote what he says directly and argue against it. You nor anyone else ITT has attempted that, probably because you know you can't. So you would agree that a highly published sociologist should be given the authority of the doubt when it comes to quantum mechanics? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:899499474] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Peterson has plenty of clout and is far from a pretend intellectual. If he is, then quote what he says directly and argue against it. You nor anyone else ITT has attempted that, probably because you know you can't.</quote> So you would agree that a highly published sociologist should be given the authority of the doubt when it comes to quantum mechanics?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StanZarnack 04/11/18 10:34:09 PM #70:	Dash_Harber posted... So is Mal just not even going to address the fact that Peterson advocated Australia keeping homosexuality illegal or not? Citation needed, apparently.....ha! --- Common sense is not so common. <cite>StanZarnack posted [p:899499483] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>So is Mal just not even going to address the fact that Peterson advocated Australia keeping homosexuality illegal or not?</quote> Citation needed, apparently.....ha!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 04/11/18 10:35:19 PM #71:	COVxy posted... Mal_Fet posted... Peterson has plenty of clout and is far from a pretend intellectual. If he is, then quote what he says directly and argue against it. You nor anyone else ITT has attempted that, probably because you know you can't. So you would agree that a highly published sociologist should be given the authority of the doubt when it comes to quantum mechanics? Doesn't matter how many published works someone has. If you were confident that person is wrong, you can post their actual quote and refute it. You won't though. Just admit you won't. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:899499545] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Peterson has plenty of clout and is far from a pretend intellectual. If he is, then quote what he says directly and argue against it. You nor anyone else ITT has attempted that, probably because you know you can't.</quote> So you would agree that a highly published sociologist should be given the authority of the doubt when it comes to quantum mechanics?</quote> Doesn't matter how many published works someone has. If you were confident that person is wrong, you can post their actual quote and refute it. You won't though. Just admit you won't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 04/11/18 10:36:33 PM #72:	StanZarnack posted... Dash_Harber posted... So is Mal just not even going to address the fact that Peterson advocated Australia keeping homosexuality illegal or not? Citation needed, apparently.....ha! Oh, that's all? Here; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jef2C4T1_A" data-time=" Problem solved. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:899499617] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>StanZarnack posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>So is Mal just not even going to address the fact that Peterson advocated Australia keeping homosexuality illegal or not?</quote> Citation needed, apparently.....ha!</quote> Oh, that's all? Here; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jef2C4T1_A" data-time=" Problem solved.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 04/11/18 10:38:12 PM #73:	Mal_Fet posted... Doesn't matter how many published works someone has. If you were confident that person is wrong, you can post their actual quote and refute it. You won't though. Just admit you won't. I mean, we've already been through that game. Anyway, so you agree that the point about how much Peterson has published is irrelevant? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:899499700] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Doesn't matter how many published works someone has. If you were confident that person is wrong, you can post their actual quote and refute it. You won't though. Just admit you won't.</quote> I mean, we've already been through that game. Anyway, so you agree that the point about how much Peterson has published is irrelevant?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 04/11/18 10:40:24 PM #74:	Dash_Harber posted... StanZarnack posted... Dash_Harber posted... So is Mal just not even going to address the fact that Peterson advocated Australia keeping homosexuality illegal or not? Citation needed, apparently.....ha! Oh, that's all? Here; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jef2C4T1_A" data-time=" Problem solved. So he supports gay marriage but is against the motivations of cultural marxists because he's wary of how it fits into their narrative. Ok, what's the problem with that COVxy posted... Mal_Fet posted... Doesn't matter how many published works someone has. If you were confident that person is wrong, you can post their actual quote and refute it. You won't though. Just admit you won't. I mean, we've already been through that game. Anyway, so you agree that the point about how much Peterson has published is irrelevant? It's absolutely relevant when hacks try to suggest he's not a real intellectual. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:899499824] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StanZarnack posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>So is Mal just not even going to address the fact that Peterson advocated Australia keeping homosexuality illegal or not?</quote> Citation needed, apparently.....ha!</quote> Oh, that's all? Here; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jef2C4T1_A" data-time=" Problem solved.</quote> So he supports gay marriage but is against the motivations of cultural marxists because he's wary of how it fits into their narrative. Ok, what's the problem with that <cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Doesn't matter how many published works someone has. If you were confident that person is wrong, you can post their actual quote and refute it. You won't though. Just admit you won't.</quote> I mean, we've already been through that game. Anyway, so you agree that the point about how much Peterson has published is irrelevant?</quote> It's absolutely relevant when hacks try to suggest he's not a real intellectual.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 04/11/18 10:42:20 PM #75:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSOwhAjhjdQ" data-time=" Will sexual harassment at work stop? "Not at the moment because we don't know what the rules are." Patently false, many places have an HR department and anyone that isn't a fucking idiot can figure it out anyways. (He's right that it wont stop but wrong about why.) Then he goes on to suggest that the only type of makeup is sexual provocative sex signaling. Because he's never heard of foundation or something. Or blue eye shadow. Or any number of styles and types that can't be directly tied to an o face. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:899499927] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSOwhAjhjdQ" data-time=" Will sexual harassment at work stop? "Not at the moment because we don't know what the rules are." Patently false, many places have an HR department and anyone that isn't a fucking idiot can figure it out anyways. (He's right that it wont stop but wrong about why.) Then he goes on to suggest that the only type of makeup is sexual provocative sex signaling. Because he's never heard of foundation or something. Or blue eye shadow. Or any number of styles and types that can't be directly tied to an o face.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dash_Harber 04/11/18 10:43:09 PM #77:	Mal_Fet posted... So he supports gay marriage but is against the motivations of cultural marxists because he's wary of how it fits into their narrative. Ok, what's the problem with that I mean, besides his obviously ridiculous ideas about how gay men need women to keep them on the straight and narrow or the weak appeal to tradition, the fact that he thinks it is morally upright to punish innocent people by imposing immoral laws (that he claims to not agree with) in order to stick it to a vaguely defined ideological enemy is disgusting. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:899499972] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>So he supports gay marriage but is against the motivations of cultural marxists because he's wary of how it fits into their narrative. Ok, what's the problem with that</quote> I mean, besides his obviously ridiculous ideas about how gay men need women to keep them on the straight and narrow or the weak appeal to tradition, the fact that he thinks it is morally upright to punish innocent people by imposing immoral laws (that he claims to not agree with) in order to stick it to a vaguely defined ideological enemy is disgusting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 04/11/18 10:43:32 PM #78:	https://twitter.com/JBPorCleric --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:899499997] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/JBPorCleric</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 04/11/18 10:43:33 PM #79:	Cultural marxism is an anti-Semitic meme. --- http://i.imgur.com/VZeCB.gif RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:899499998] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote>Cultural marxism is an anti-Semitic meme.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 04/11/18 10:44:42 PM #80:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Will sexual harassment at work stop? "Not at the moment because we don't know what the rules are." Patently false, many places have an HR department and anyone that isn't a fucking idiot can figure it out anyways. (He's right that it wont stop but wrong about why.) Rules laid out by an HR department for the purpose of protecting a company from liability != societal workplace rules. Stop being dense. Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Then he goes on to suggest that the only type of makeup is sexual provocative sex signaling. Because he's never heard of foundation or something. Or blue eye shadow. Or any number of styles and types that can't be directly tied to an o face. Because smooth-looking skin isn't sexually provocative...? ASithLord7 posted... Cultural marxism is an anti-Semitic meme. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:899500075] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote> Will sexual harassment at work stop? "Not at the moment because we don't know what the rules are." Patently false, many places have an HR department and anyone that isn't a fucking idiot can figure it out anyways. (He's right that it wont stop but wrong about why.)</quote> Rules laid out by an HR department for the purpose of protecting a company from liability != societal workplace rules. Stop being dense. <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>Then he goes on to suggest that the only type of makeup is sexual provocative sex signaling. Because he's never heard of foundation or something. Or blue eye shadow. Or any number of styles and types that can't be directly tied to an o face.</quote> Because smooth-looking skin isn't sexually provocative...? <cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote>Cultural marxism is an anti-Semitic meme.</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 04/11/18 10:46:29 PM #81:	Mal_Fet posted... It's absolutely relevant when hacks try to suggest he's not a real intellectual. With regards to what he's saying: he's not. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:899500167] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>It's absolutely relevant when hacks try to suggest he's not a real intellectual.</quote> With regards to what he's saying: he's not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 04/11/18 10:48:04 PM #82:	WhinyZach posted... Dash_Harber posted... So is Mal just not even going to address the fact that Peterson advocated Australia keeping homosexuality illegal or not? I'll address it, and it's something I don't agree with JP on. I can further JP's viewpoint because I feel the "he only wants to gay marriage to be illegal because he hates liberals" is a bit simplified. His reasoning is hypothetical. IF the bill is backed by cultural marxists, and it passes, JP feels it will become a slippery slope towards the marxists social control. JP is exploring how gay marriage will effect society, who is pushing for it, and what their end game is. I don't think he has some hidden agenda to try to stop gay marriage, personally. But again, I would vote to legalize gay marriage regardless of his position. It's still not a morally justifiable position. It's literally the realpolitik version of dealing with societal issues, and I don't really understand how anyone can justify that when, realistically, you can't argue that the legalization of gay marriage is an issue entirely supported by cultural Marxists. Even if we accept that it's some sort of ploy, he can't even clearly define what group he is trying to stop or what their agenda is. It's like a conspiracy theory; there is a vaguely defined philosophical cabal operating in the shadows pushing for reasonable demands like gay marriage legalization to further their evil goals and therefore we should punish them by doing something we know is morally wrong in order to spite them". What is the difference between that and him saying it's part of Satan's goals? Or the Illuminati? Or secret Nazis who live on the moon? It's like saying, "we shouldn't produce insulin for diabetics, not because I have a problem with diabetics, but because that is what my vaguely defined enemy entity secretly wants and I don't want to help them with their agenda!". <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:899500262] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>WhinyZach posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>So is Mal just not even going to address the fact that Peterson advocated Australia keeping homosexuality illegal or not?</quote> I'll address it, and it's something I don't agree with JP on. I can further JP's viewpoint because I feel the "he only wants to gay marriage to be illegal because he hates liberals" is a bit simplified. His reasoning is hypothetical. IF the bill is backed by cultural marxists, and it passes, JP feels it will become a slippery slope towards the marxists social control. JP is exploring how gay marriage will effect society, who is pushing for it, and what their end game is. I don't think he has some hidden agenda to try to stop gay marriage, personally. But again, I would vote to legalize gay marriage regardless of his position.</quote> It's still not a morally justifiable position. It's literally the realpolitik version of dealing with societal issues, and I don't really understand how anyone can justify that when, realistically, you can't argue that the legalization of gay marriage is an issue entirely supported by cultural Marxists. Even if we accept that it's some sort of ploy, he can't even clearly define what group he is trying to stop or what their agenda is. It's like a conspiracy theory; there is a vaguely defined philosophical cabal operating in the shadows pushing for reasonable demands like gay marriage legalization to further their evil goals and therefore we should punish them by doing something we know is morally wrong in order to spite them". What is the difference between that and him saying it's part of Satan's goals? Or the Illuminati? Or secret Nazis who live on the moon? It's like saying, "we shouldn't produce insulin for diabetics, not because I have a problem with diabetics, but because that is what my vaguely defined enemy entity secretly wants and I don't want to help them with their agenda!".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 04/11/18 10:49:12 PM #83:	Mal_Fet posted... Because smooth-looking skin isn't sexually provocative...? . . . Wow edit: I deleted the rest of my post, not because I don't stand by it, I do, I just want to let this one stew for a bit. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:899500330] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Because smooth-looking skin isn't sexually provocative...? </quote> . . . Wow edit: I deleted the rest of my post, not because I don't stand by it, I do, I just want to let this one stew for a bit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kid_Buu 04/11/18 10:50:07 PM #84:	Mal_Fet posted... Because smooth-looking skin isn't sexually provocative...? ok dawg --- anime girls either need a dick or thicc for me to want to have relations with them im kaname btw <cite>Kid_Buu posted [p:899500379] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Because smooth-looking skin isn't sexually provocative...?</quote> ok dawg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 04/11/18 10:50:52 PM #85:	Mal_Fet posted... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School#Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory --- http://i.imgur.com/VZeCB.gif RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:899500422] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School#Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheMikh 04/11/18 10:52:47 PM #86:	ASithLord7 posted... Cultural marxism is an anti-Semitic meme. on one hand yes on the other hand i'm sure there is valid criticism of critical theory to be had, and a compelling case to be made that it's become weaponized in some ideological circles - even certain ideological circles that complain about it --- http://i.imgur.com/A0TAfek.png <cite>TheMikh posted [p:899500544] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote>Cultural marxism is an anti-Semitic meme.</quote> on one hand yes on the other hand i'm sure there is valid criticism of critical theory to be had, and a compelling case to be made that it's become weaponized in some ideological circles - even certain ideological circles that complain about it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hinakuluiau 04/11/18 10:54:26 PM #87:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImHZsSqB11U" data-time=" --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking. - ROD <cite>Hinakuluiau posted [p:899500635] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImHZsSqB11U" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frolex 04/11/18 10:57:58 PM #88:	Mal_Fet posted... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School Professor and Oxford fellow Matthew Feldman has traced the terminology back to the pre-war German concept of Cultural Bolshevism, locating it as part of the degeneration theory that aided in Hitler's rise to power --- http://i.imgur.com/HOLHd4k.gif http://i.imgur.com/six2WTN.gif <cite>Frolex posted [p:899500823] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School</quote> <quote>Professor and Oxford fellow Matthew Feldman has traced the terminology back to the pre-war German concept of Cultural Bolshevism, locating it as part of the degeneration theory that aided in Hitler's rise to power</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 04/11/18 11:02:30 PM #89:	FLUFFYGERM posted... why do leftists get so rustled by Jordan Peterson Facts, logic, and reasoning is liberal kryptonite. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:899501055] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>why do leftists get so rustled by Jordan Peterson</quote> Facts, logic, and reasoning is liberal kryptonite.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 04/11/18 11:04:01 PM #90:	Nomadic View posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... why do leftists get so rustled by Jordan Peterson Facts, logic, and reasoning is liberal kryptonite. Do you get a lot of facts and logic on that site you got warned for linking to --- http://i.imgur.com/VZeCB.gif RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:899501134] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>why do leftists get so rustled by Jordan Peterson</quote> Facts, logic, and reasoning is liberal kryptonite.</quote> Do you get a lot of facts and logic on that site you got warned for linking to</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shuto-uke 04/11/18 11:06:15 PM #91:	Gafemage posted... @Shuto-uke posted... What are his positions? I know nothing about him, but I do know a dweeb in real life that has suddenly turned hard right (wears MAGA caps, he calls hispanic people illegals (e.g. he's driving, some hispanic looking guy honks at him and he says "shut up, illegal") and he rages over and over about feminism. He is mentioning Jordan Peterson a lot, so I take his positions are terrible? IIRC hes mostly just another classical liberal who criticizes SJWs more than Republicans & the far-right. In general he seems particularly popular among the MRA/MGTOW crowds. That explains it. This dweeb I was talking about became MRA. <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:899501254] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>Gafemage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote>What are his positions? I know nothing about him, but I do know a dweeb in real life that has suddenly turned hard right (wears MAGA caps, he calls hispanic people illegals (e.g. he's driving, some hispanic looking guy honks at him and he says "shut up, illegal") and he rages over and over about feminism. He is mentioning Jordan Peterson a lot, so I take his positions are terrible?</quote> IIRC hes mostly just another classical liberal who criticizes SJWs more than Republicans & the far-right. In general he seems particularly popular among the MRA/MGTOW crowds.</quote> That explains it. This dweeb I was talking about became MRA.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 04/11/18 11:06:17 PM #92:	COVxy posted... Mal_Fet posted... It's absolutely relevant when hacks try to suggest he's not a real intellectual. With regards to what he's saying: he's not. Says a guy who can't even accurately quote what he says. ASithLord7 posted... Mal_Fet posted... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School#Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory Doesn't matter what you call it or how pervasive you believe it is in academia. It's not just a meme. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:899501256] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>It's absolutely relevant when hacks try to suggest he's not a real intellectual.</quote> With regards to what he's saying: he's not.</quote> Says a guy who can't even accurately quote what he says. <cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School#Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory</quote> Doesn't matter what you call it or how pervasive you believe it is in academia. It's not just a meme.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shuto-uke 04/11/18 11:11:41 PM #93:	StanZarnack posted... Shuto-uke posted... What are his positions? I know nothing about him, but I do know a dweeb in real life that has suddenly turned hard right (wears MAGA caps, he calls hispanic people illegals (e.g. he's driving, some hispanic looking guy honks at him and he says "shut up, illegal") and he rages over and over about feminism. He is mentioning Jordan Peterson a lot, so I take his positions are terrible? from what ive seen - he thinks that women shouldnt ware makeup in the workplace - he is obsessed with lobsters - he is anti-sjw, and anyone who speaks out against social norms is gold with these type of people - he had an interview with a silly British reporter which gave him his much wanted attention and publicity so more manchildren can follow him - he claimed that the same sex marriage thing in... think it was australia....should be voted DOWN because the other side want it...literally that was his only reason. dont give them what they want because mr peterson doesnt want the other side getting their way and treating gays as normal people...hes horrid. hes a fucking JOKE he sounds like a loser <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:899501551] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>StanZarnack posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote>What are his positions? I know nothing about him, but I do know a dweeb in real life that has suddenly turned hard right (wears MAGA caps, he calls hispanic people illegals (e.g. he's driving, some hispanic looking guy honks at him and he says "shut up, illegal") and he rages over and over about feminism. He is mentioning Jordan Peterson a lot, so I take his positions are terrible?</quote> from what ive seen - he thinks that women shouldnt ware makeup in the workplace - he is obsessed with lobsters - he is anti-sjw, and anyone who speaks out against social norms is gold with these type of people - he had an interview with a silly British reporter which gave him his much wanted attention and publicity so more manchildren can follow him - he claimed that the same sex marriage thing in... think it was australia....should be voted DOWN because the other side want it...literally that was his only reason. dont give them what they want because mr peterson doesnt want the other side getting their way and treating gays as normal people...hes horrid. hes a fucking JOKE</quote> he sounds like a loser</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 04/11/18 11:12:00 PM #94:	Mal_Fet posted... Says a guy who can't even accurately quote what he says. Wut? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:899501568] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Says a guy who can't even accurately quote what he says.</quote> Wut?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 04/11/18 11:12:53 PM #95:	ASithLord7 posted... Nomadic View posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... why do leftists get so rustled by Jordan Peterson Facts, logic, and reasoning is liberal kryptonite. Do you get a lot of facts and logic on that site you got warned for linking to Like this! No facts, logic, or reasoning. Just pure nonsense. Thanks for the example! --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:899501626] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>why do leftists get so rustled by Jordan Peterson</quote> Facts, logic, and reasoning is liberal kryptonite.</quote> Do you get a lot of facts and logic on that site you got warned for linking to</quote> Like this! No facts, logic, or reasoning. Just pure nonsense. Thanks for the example! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 04/11/18 11:17:44 PM #96:	I wish the Frankfurt school had as much influence as conspiracy-addled right wingers ascribe to it. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:899501877] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote>I wish the Frankfurt school had as much influence as conspiracy-addled right wingers ascribe to it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 04/11/18 11:18:53 PM #97:	Mal_Fet posted... COVxy posted... Mal_Fet posted... It's absolutely relevant when hacks try to suggest he's not a real intellectual. With regards to what he's saying: he's not. Says a guy who can't even accurately quote what he says. ASithLord7 posted... Mal_Fet posted... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School#Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory Doesn't matter what you call it or how pervasive you believe it is in academia. It's not just a meme. Sorry, anti-Semitic conspiracy theory* --- http://i.imgur.com/VZeCB.gif RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:899501926] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>It's absolutely relevant when hacks try to suggest he's not a real intellectual.</quote> With regards to what he's saying: he's not.</quote> Says a guy who can't even accurately quote what he says. <cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School#Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory</quote> Doesn't matter what you call it or how pervasive you believe it is in academia. It's not just a meme.</quote> Sorry, anti-Semitic conspiracy theory*</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 04/11/18 11:19:50 PM #98:	Antifar posted... I wish the Frankfurt school had as much influence as conspiracy-addled right wingers ascribe to it. Yes I too relish the idea of thought crime and rejecting the Socratic method. ~~wtf is wrong with you?~~ ASithLord7 posted... Sorry, anti-Semitic conspiracy theory* It's not just that either. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:899501973] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>I wish the Frankfurt school had as much influence as conspiracy-addled right wingers ascribe to it.</quote> Yes I too relish the idea of thought crime and rejecting the Socratic method. wtf is wrong with you? <cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote>Sorry, anti-Semitic conspiracy theory*</quote> It's not just that either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thrashmetal14 04/11/18 11:26:12 PM #99:	I find it interesting that anyone who isnt strictly left wing is criticized by many on this board and other parts of the internet. Jordan Peterson is pretty much moderate politically, probably best described as a classical liberal. And yet somehow he is empowering the "alt-right"? He has a Ph.D in psychology, has been a clinical psychiatrist for decades, but somehow he is "stupid"? I dont agree with him all the time but the hate he gets from the lefties isnt even based on reason or logic. <cite>thrashmetal14 posted [p:899502315] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote>I find it interesting that anyone who isnt strictly left wing is criticized by many on this board and other parts of the internet. Jordan Peterson is pretty much moderate politically, probably best described as a classical liberal. And yet somehow he is empowering the "alt-right"? He has a Ph.D in psychology, has been a clinical psychiatrist for decades, but somehow he is "stupid"? I dont agree with him all the time but the hate he gets from the lefties isnt even based on reason or logic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 04/11/18 11:27:20 PM #100:	thrashmetal14 posted... I find it interesting that anyone who isnt strictly left wing is criticized by many on this board and other parts of the internet. Jordan Peterson is pretty much moderate politically, probably best described as a classical liberal. And yet somehow he is empowering the "alt-right"? He has a Ph.D in psychology, has been a clinical psychiatrist for decades, but somehow he is "stupid"? I dont agree with him all the time but the hate he gets from the lefties isnt even based on reason or logic. The left needs to accuse their enemies of being dangerous psychos because otherwise they'll be forced to argue intellectually, something they know they can't win. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:899502382] in iyo, is Jo... [t:76508540]...</cite> <quote><cite>thrashmetal14 posted...</cite> <quote>I find it interesting that anyone who isnt strictly left wing is criticized by many on this board and other parts of the internet. Jordan Peterson is pretty much moderate politically, probably best described as a classical liberal. And yet somehow he is empowering the "alt-right"? He has a Ph.D in psychology, has been a clinical psychiatrist for decades, but somehow he is "stupid"? I dont agree with him all the time but the hate he gets from the lefties isnt even based on reason or logic.</quote> The left needs to accuse their enemies of being dangerous psychos because otherwise they'll be forced to argue intellectually, something they know they can't win.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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