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JordanPeterson 04/10/18 10:38:45 PM #1:	..gets tentative trial date: http://archive.is/Ocm6K A lawsuit against Harvard on behalf of Asian-American students moved a step further on Tuesday as a US district judge proposed a tentative October trial date and suggested ground rules for admissions records to be made public in upcoming months. Lawyers for Harvard and the group known as Students for Fair Admissions have disagreed over the breadth of confidential materials to be opened in the dispute over how students earn a place at the prestigious Ivy League campus. "[T]his is an important and closely watched civil rights case. The public has a right to know exactly what is going on at Harvard," the Students for Fair Admissions challengers, represented by William Consovoy, asserted in a letter to Judge Allison Burroughs leading up to Tuesday's hearing. Their lawsuit alleges that Harvard unlawfully caps the number of high achieving Asian-American students admitted. Engineered by a longtime critic of all racial affirmative action policies, the case more broadly seeks to reverse a 1978 US Supreme Court decision that first endorsed practices favoring blacks and other historically disadvantaged minorities to promote campus diversity. The group had wanted to make public selected documents obtained from Harvard with a summary-judgment motion due in June. Harvard, represented in court by William Lee, says the university should be able to screen any material to be cited from the 90,000 pages of confidential material turned over during the discovery phase, to ensure there's no breach of student privacy or other university interests. Burroughs on Tuesday agreed with Harvard that the materials should first be reviewed in a private court process, but she said she expected most of the relevant materials to be made public and warned against heavy redactions, paragraphs of blacked-out type. "I hope the document won't be incomprehensible to someone trying to read it," she said. Burroughs said she expected the litigation at this stage to come down to "a fairly fact-intensive inquiry" of experts' views regarding the Harvard admissions process. "You'll have your day on the merits this fall," she said, proposing that the two sides promptly confer about a start date of October 15. She said she expected the trial to last two or three weeks.'' The case against Harvard has drawn significant outside attention. Last week, the Trump administration sent a letter to the court on behalf of Students for Fair Admissions in its quest to avoid any pre-emptive redactions. The Department of Justice is separately engaged in its own administrative investigation of possible Harvard discrimination against Asian-American applicants.... This has the potential to be a landmark civil rights case for Asian-Americans unless liberals do their liberal thing. <cite>JordanPeterson posted [p:899440525] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote>..gets tentative trial date: http://archive.is/Ocm6K A lawsuit against Harvard on behalf of Asian-American students moved a step further on Tuesday as a US district judge proposed a tentative October trial date and suggested ground rules for admissions records to be made public in upcoming months. Lawyers for Harvard and the group known as Students for Fair Admissions have disagreed over the breadth of confidential materials to be opened in the dispute over how students earn a place at the prestigious Ivy League campus. "[T]his is an important and closely watched civil rights case. The public has a right to know exactly what is going on at Harvard," the Students for Fair Admissions challengers, represented by William Consovoy, asserted in a letter to Judge Allison Burroughs leading up to Tuesday's hearing. Their lawsuit alleges that Harvard unlawfully caps the number of high achieving Asian-American students admitted. Engineered by a longtime critic of all racial affirmative action policies, the case more broadly seeks to reverse a 1978 US Supreme Court decision that first endorsed practices favoring blacks and other historically disadvantaged minorities to promote campus diversity. The group had wanted to make public selected documents obtained from Harvard with a summary-judgment motion due in June. Harvard, represented in court by William Lee, says the university should be able to screen any material to be cited from the 90,000 pages of confidential material turned over during the discovery phase, to ensure there's no breach of student privacy or other university interests. Burroughs on Tuesday agreed with Harvard that the materials should first be reviewed in a private court process, but she said she expected most of the relevant materials to be made public and warned against heavy redactions, paragraphs of blacked-out type. "I hope the document won't be incomprehensible to someone trying to read it," she said. Burroughs said she expected the litigation at this stage to come down to "a fairly fact-intensive inquiry" of experts' views regarding the Harvard admissions process. "You'll have your day on the merits this fall," she said, proposing that the two sides promptly confer about a start date of October 15. She said she expected the trial to last two or three weeks.'' The case against Harvard has drawn significant outside attention. Last week, the Trump administration sent a letter to the court on behalf of Students for Fair Admissions in its quest to avoid any pre-emptive redactions. The Department of Justice is separately engaged in its own administrative investigation of possible Harvard discrimination against Asian-American applicants.... This has the potential to be a landmark civil rights case for Asian-Americans unless liberals do their liberal thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexagon 04/10/18 10:42:40 PM #2:	Wow that username. Some strange idolization going on here. <cite>Hexagon posted [p:899440748] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote>Wow that username. Some strange idolization going on here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frolex 04/10/18 10:43:11 PM #3:	Hexagon posted... Wow that username. Some strange idolization going on here. It's SMAL --- http://i.imgur.com/HOLHd4k.gif http://i.imgur.com/six2WTN.gif <cite>Frolex posted [p:899440778] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexagon posted...</cite> <quote>Wow that username. Some strange idolization going on here.</quote> It's SMAL</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 04/10/18 10:43:51 PM #4:	Frolex posted... Hexagon posted... Wow that username. Some strange idolization going on here. It's SMAL Goddammit --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:899440824] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>Frolex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexagon posted...</cite> <quote>Wow that username. Some strange idolization going on here.</quote> It's SMAL</quote> Goddammit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flockaveli 04/10/18 10:45:29 PM #5:	Nice I hope the Asian American students have their way. Favoring diversity over academic prestige? Let the community colleges handle that. --- Chicago, greatest city in the world! <cite>Flockaveli posted [p:899440924] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote>Nice I hope the Asian American students have their way. Favoring diversity over academic prestige? Let the community colleges handle that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JordanPeterson 04/11/18 12:32:42 AM #6:	Flockaveli posted... Nice I hope the Asian American students have their way. Favoring diversity over academic prestige? Let the community colleges handle that. I know, right? <cite>JordanPeterson posted [p:899445906] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>Flockaveli posted...</cite> <quote>Nice I hope the Asian American students have their way. Favoring diversity over academic prestige? Let the community colleges handle that.</quote> I know, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 04/11/18 12:34:07 AM #7:	I agree that racism against the Asian-American community has gone too far. It has manifested itself in what have amounted to Anti-Asian Quotas. I hope the lawsuit is successful. --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:899445957] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote>I agree that racism against the Asian-American community has gone too far. It has manifested itself in what have amounted to Anti-Asian Quotas. I hope the lawsuit is successful.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 04/11/18 12:50:04 AM #8:	Equality doesnt mean that black students are guarenteed 20% or 50% of the available seats. It means they should be considered equally, based on academic merit alone, compared to other students. Same applies to every race. If there are 100 seats available, and the top 100 condidates are asian, that class should be 100% asian. Or black, or white if those nationalities happened to be the top candidates at that time. Race shouldnt even be a factor, other than to ensure they arent discriminated against. Discrimination in favor of should be outlawed. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:899446544] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote>Equality doesnt mean that black students are guarenteed 20% or 50% of the available seats. It means they should be considered equally, based on academic merit alone, compared to other students. Same applies to every race. If there are 100 seats available, and the top 100 condidates are asian, that class should be 100% asian. Or black, or white if those nationalities happened to be the top candidates at that time. Race shouldnt even be a factor, other than to ensure they arent discriminated against. Discrimination in favor of should be outlawed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JordanPeterson 04/11/18 12:50:27 AM #9:	Rika_Furude posted... Equality doesnt mean that black students are guarenteed 20% or 50% of the available seats. It means they should be considered equally, based on academit merit alone, compared to other students. Same applies to every race. If there are 100 seats available, and the top 100 condidates are asian, that class should be 100% asian. Or black, or white if those nationalities happened to be the top candidates at that time. Race shouldnt even be a factor, other than to ensure they arent discriminated against. Discrimination in favor of should be outlawed. --- https://i.imgur.com/MhZjeyp.jpg <cite>JordanPeterson posted [p:899446554] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Equality doesnt mean that black students are guarenteed 20% or 50% of the available seats. It means they should be considered equally, based on academit merit alone, compared to other students. Same applies to every race. If there are 100 seats available, and the top 100 condidates are asian, that class should be 100% asian. Or black, or white if those nationalities happened to be the top candidates at that time. Race shouldnt even be a factor, other than to ensure they arent discriminated against. Discrimination in favor of should be outlawed.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 04/11/18 12:51:15 AM #10:	Forgive my spelling apocolypse i dont have auto corrext turnes on --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:899446575] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote>Forgive my spelling apocolypse i dont have auto corrext turnes on</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackHorse6969 04/11/18 12:51:35 AM #11:	imagine thinking asian americans need harvard to be successful. --- http://i.imgur.com/dMnyy10.jpg <cite>BlackHorse6969 posted [p:899446582] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote>imagine thinking asian americans need harvard to be successful.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JordanPeterson 04/11/18 1:14:20 AM #12:	BlackHorse6969 posted... imagine thinking asian americans need harvard to be successful. Unlike other minorities, Asian-Americans generally don't have many other options to succeed under DemoKKKrats. --- https://i.imgur.com/MhZjeyp.jpg <cite>JordanPeterson posted [p:899447382] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackHorse6969 posted...</cite> <quote>imagine thinking asian americans need harvard to be successful.</quote> Unlike other minorities, Asian-Americans generally don't have many other options to succeed under DemoKKKrats.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 04/11/18 1:14:56 AM #13:	Rika_Furude posted... If there are 100 seats available, and the top 100 condidates are asian, that class should be 100% asian According to some, this is racism. --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:899447410] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>If there are 100 seats available, and the top 100 condidates are asian, that class should be 100% asian</quote> According to some, this is racism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 04/11/18 1:15:59 AM #14:	Surely the mathematics department has something to say about this. --- Ten million dollars on a losing campaign Twenty million starving and writhing in pain <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:899447445] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote>Surely the mathematics department has something to say about this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackHorse6969 04/11/18 1:18:33 AM #15:	JordanPeterson posted... BlackHorse6969 posted... imagine thinking asian americans need harvard to be successful. Unlike other minorities, Asian-Americans generally don't have many other options to succeed under DemoKKKrats. asian americans are the most versatile minorities in the US. if they cant go to college, they can open restaraunts or other businesses to survive. they even gamble to make money. if they dont get in to harvard, they dont complain and just find other ways to succeed --- http://i.imgur.com/dMnyy10.jpg <cite>BlackHorse6969 posted [p:899447530] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>JordanPeterson posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackHorse6969 posted...</cite> <quote>imagine thinking asian americans need harvard to be successful.</quote> Unlike other minorities, Asian-Americans generally don't have many other options to succeed under DemoKKKrats.</quote> asian americans are the most versatile minorities in the US. if they cant go to college, they can open restaraunts or other businesses to survive. they even gamble to make money. if they dont get in to harvard, they dont complain and just find other ways to succeed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 04/11/18 1:22:08 AM #16:	Rika_Furude posted... and the top 100 condidates are asian The mistake is thinking that what Ivy League schools value is the cookie cutter resume that fills sites like College Confidential. They don't just sort people by GPA, SAT, etc. There are enough people who apply to these schools with top tier numerics. The question is what about your experiences make you stand out. Diversity doesn't just mean "racial diversity" or "gender diversity". --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:899447655] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>and the top 100 condidates are asian</quote> The mistake is thinking that what Ivy League schools value is the cookie cutter resume that fills sites like College Confidential. They don't just sort people by GPA, SAT, etc. There are enough people who apply to these schools with top tier numerics. The question is what about your experiences make you stand out. Diversity doesn't just mean "racial diversity" or "gender diversity".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Two_Dee 04/11/18 1:22:22 AM #17:	being Asian is 100% the reason why I didn't get accepted into Harvard i didn't even bother trying to apply because I knew they would reject me based on race --- https://i.imgur.com/jkyPFfF.gifv <cite>Two_Dee posted [p:899447661] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote>being Asian is 100% the reason why I didn't get accepted into Harvard i didn't even bother trying to apply because I knew they would reject me based on race</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wah_wah_wah 04/11/18 1:22:54 AM #18:	Rika_Furude posted... Equality doesnt mean that black students are guarenteed 20% or 50% of the available seats. It means they should be considered equally, based on academic merit alone, compared to other students. Same applies to every race. If there are 100 seats available, and the top 100 condidates are asian, that class should be 100% asian. Or black, or white if those nationalities happened to be the top candidates at that time. Race shouldnt even be a factor, other than to ensure they arent discriminated against. Discrimination in favor of should be outlawed. "Academic merit" often means wealthy connections (which black students often do not have because of "discrimination in favor"). <cite>wah_wah_wah posted [p:899447684] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Equality doesnt mean that black students are guarenteed 20% or 50% of the available seats. It means they should be considered equally, based on academic merit alone, compared to other students. Same applies to every race. If there are 100 seats available, and the top 100 condidates are asian, that class should be 100% asian. Or black, or white if those nationalities happened to be the top candidates at that time. Race shouldnt even be a factor, other than to ensure they arent discriminated against. Discrimination in favor of should be outlawed.</quote> "Academic merit" often means wealthy connections (which black students often do not have because of "discrimination in favor").</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 04/11/18 1:26:14 AM #19:	Sativa_Rose posted... Rika_Furude posted... If there are 100 seats available, and the top 100 condidates are asian, that class should be 100% asian According to some, this is racism. Start taking away from the legacy kids and see how hard the same white people clamoring for this change their minds. Lmao is what it is. Go after the 'problem' that you can use to pander, yet ignore the real problem --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:899447802] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>If there are 100 seats available, and the top 100 condidates are asian, that class should be 100% asian</quote> According to some, this is racism.</quote> Start taking away from the legacy kids and see how hard the same white people clamoring for this change their minds. Lmao is what it is. Go after the 'problem' that you can use to pander, yet ignore the real problem</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vita_Aeterna 04/11/18 1:26:26 AM #20:	I'm against the lawsuit and I'm Asian-Canadian. These Ivy Leagues are way too over-represented by Asian people. I don't even know why these people are whining about discrimination when they're entering a school historically for White/Wealthy Anglo-Saxon Protestant people. I think poor but bright people should be considered into entrance into these universities more so than any specific race/ underprivileged peoples. --- "Bear Island knows no king but the King in the North, whose name is STARK." <cite>Vita_Aeterna posted [p:899447809] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote>I'm against the lawsuit and I'm Asian-Canadian. These Ivy Leagues are way too over-represented by Asian people. I don't even know why these people are whining about discrimination when they're entering a school historically for White/Wealthy Anglo-Saxon Protestant people. I think poor but bright people should be considered into entrance into these universities more so than any specific race/ underprivileged peoples.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JordanPeterson 04/11/18 1:27:31 AM #21:	Vita_Aeterna posted... I'm against the lawsuit and I'm Asian-Canadian. These Ivy Leagues are way too over-represented by Asian people. I don't even know why these people are whining about discrimination when they're entering a school historically for White/Wealthy Anglo-Saxon Protestant people. You sound like an Asian who would gladly sit at the Asians only table or sit at the back of the bus. --- https://i.imgur.com/MhZjeyp.jpg <cite>JordanPeterson posted [p:899447840] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vita_Aeterna posted...</cite> <quote>I'm against the lawsuit and I'm Asian-Canadian. These Ivy Leagues are way too over-represented by Asian people. I don't even know why these people are whining about discrimination when they're entering a school historically for White/Wealthy Anglo-Saxon Protestant people.</quote> You sound like an Asian who would gladly sit at the Asians only table or sit at the back of the bus.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vita_Aeterna 04/11/18 1:29:21 AM #22:	JordanPeterson posted... Vita_Aeterna posted... I'm against the lawsuit and I'm Asian-Canadian. These Ivy Leagues are way too over-represented by Asian people. I don't even know why these people are whining about discrimination when they're entering a school historically for White/Wealthy Anglo-Saxon Protestant people. You sound like an Asian who would gladly sit at the Asians only table or sit at the back of the bus. If you live in Vancouver you would realize that the entire bus would be filled with Asians from front to back. --- "Bear Island knows no king but the King in the North, whose name is STARK." <cite>Vita_Aeterna posted [p:899447888] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>JordanPeterson posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vita_Aeterna posted...</cite> <quote>I'm against the lawsuit and I'm Asian-Canadian. These Ivy Leagues are way too over-represented by Asian people. I don't even know why these people are whining about discrimination when they're entering a school historically for White/Wealthy Anglo-Saxon Protestant people.</quote> You sound like an Asian who would gladly sit at the Asians only table or sit at the back of the bus.</quote> If you live in Vancouver you would realize that the entire bus would be filled with Asians from front to back.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Two_Dee 04/11/18 1:30:14 AM #23:	Vita_Aeterna posted... If you live in Vancouver you would realize that the entire bus would be filled with Asians from front to back. they probably all have Canada Goose on as well --- https://i.imgur.com/jkyPFfF.gifv <cite>Two_Dee posted [p:899447918] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vita_Aeterna posted...</cite> <quote>If you live in Vancouver you would realize that the entire bus would be filled with Asians from front to back. </quote> they probably all have Canada Goose on as well</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JordanPeterson 04/11/18 1:32:42 AM #24:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEZb5rTUXPU" data-time=" --- https://i.imgur.com/MhZjeyp.jpg <cite>JordanPeterson posted [p:899448000] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEZb5rTUXPU" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MuayThai85 04/11/18 1:34:29 AM #25:	Vita_Aeterna posted... JordanPeterson posted... Vita_Aeterna posted... I'm against the lawsuit and I'm Asian-Canadian. These Ivy Leagues are way too over-represented by Asian people. I don't even know why these people are whining about discrimination when they're entering a school historically for White/Wealthy Anglo-Saxon Protestant people. You sound like an Asian who would gladly sit at the Asians only table or sit at the back of the bus. If you live in Vancouver you would realize that the entire bus would be filled with Asians from front to back. That's a wee bit disingenious, don't you think? While there are a lot of Asians in Vancouver, they still aren't the majority... --- How can one person post so much stupid s***? <cite>MuayThai85 posted [p:899448054] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vita_Aeterna posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JordanPeterson posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vita_Aeterna posted...</cite> <quote>I'm against the lawsuit and I'm Asian-Canadian. These Ivy Leagues are way too over-represented by Asian people. I don't even know why these people are whining about discrimination when they're entering a school historically for White/Wealthy Anglo-Saxon Protestant people.</quote> You sound like an Asian who would gladly sit at the Asians only table or sit at the back of the bus.</quote> If you live in Vancouver you would realize that the entire bus would be filled with Asians from front to back.</quote> That's a wee bit disingenious, don't you think? While there are a lot of Asians in Vancouver, they still aren't the majority...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 04/11/18 1:34:31 AM #26:	https://twitter.com/samswey/status/981753899253198848?s=19 --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:899448056] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/samswey/status/981753899253198848?s=19</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 04/11/18 1:35:02 AM #27:	Hey SMAL remember when you advocated for eugenics and forced sterilization of other minorities Also how many times per day do you get off to Jordan Peterson videos --- http://i.imgur.com/VZeCB.gif RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:899448074] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote>Hey SMAL remember when you advocated for eugenics and forced sterilization of other minorities Also how many times per day do you get off to Jordan Peterson videos</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 04/11/18 1:35:55 AM #28:	FrisbeeDude posted... https://twitter.com/samswey/status/981753899253198848?s=19 Does legacy preference = relative attended? --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:899448107] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/samswey/status/981753899253198848?s=19</quote> Does legacy preference = relative attended?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SGT_Conti 04/11/18 1:47:44 AM #29:	Anteaterking posted... FrisbeeDude posted... https://twitter.com/samswey/status/981753899253198848?s=19 Does legacy preference = relative attended? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_preferences Yes. I didn't even know this was a thing until now. How can anyone take the admissions process of a school seriously if "your parents went here" is even in consideration? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 <cite>SGT_Conti posted [p:899448499] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote> https://twitter.com/samswey/status/981753899253198848?s=19</quote> Does legacy preference = relative attended?</quote> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_preferences Yes. I didn't even know this was a thing until now. How can anyone take the admissions process of a school seriously if "your parents went here" is even in consideration?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendarylemur 04/11/18 2:10:06 AM #30:	I don't consider myself a smart person, but I know for a fact that I got better grades and SAT/ACT scores than like 30% of the people that get accepted to Ivy League colleges. That's cuz I tried fucking hard as hell, like to the point of just burning myself out. Sadly, I landed on a liberal arts college instead, though still fairly high up there in the rankings back in the day. Anyways, for me, the Asian-American discrimination was real --- "Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo https://i.imgur.com/JGJqvwW.jpg <cite>legendarylemur posted [p:899449134] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote>I don't consider myself a smart person, but I know for a fact that I got better grades and SAT/ACT scores than like 30% of the people that get accepted to Ivy League colleges. That's cuz I tried fucking hard as hell, like to the point of just burning myself out. Sadly, I landed on a liberal arts college instead, though still fairly high up there in the rankings back in the day. Anyways, for me, the Asian-American discrimination was real</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eggcorn 04/11/18 2:13:57 AM #31:	http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-adv-asian-race-tutoring-20150222-story.html#page=1 --- Warning: This post may contain triggering or distressing content. <cite>eggcorn posted [p:899449246] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote>http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-adv-asian-race-tutoring-20150222-story.html#page=1</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wah_wah_wah 04/11/18 2:41:18 AM #32:	SGT_Conti posted... Anteaterking posted... FrisbeeDude posted... https://twitter.com/samswey/status/981753899253198848?s=19 Does legacy preference = relative attended? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_preferences Yes. I didn't even know this was a thing until now. How can anyone take the admissions process of a school seriously if "your parents went here" is even in consideration? Even if that wasn't explicitly in the admissions policies, there is inherent biases for legacy kids in general. Their parents are more likely to obviously have financial ties to the institution. <cite>wah_wah_wah posted [p:899449936] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>SGT_Conti posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote> https://twitter.com/samswey/status/981753899253198848?s=19</quote> Does legacy preference = relative attended?</quote> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_preferences Yes. I didn't even know this was a thing until now. How can anyone take the admissions process of a school seriously if "your parents went here" is even in consideration?</quote> Even if that wasn't explicitly in the admissions policies, there is inherent biases for legacy kids in general. Their parents are more likely to obviously have financial ties to the institution.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YOUHAVENOHOPE 04/11/18 2:46:00 AM #33:	JordanPeterson posted... don't have many other options to succeed under DemoKKKrats. AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA --- http://i.imgur.com/kpXTakw.gif http://i.imgur.com/Pto3yPa.jpg http://media.giphy.com/media/NBVBnHv8bV13q/giphy.gif <cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted [p:899450045] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>JordanPeterson posted...</cite> <quote>don't have many other options to succeed under DemoKKKrats. </quote> AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YOUHAVENOHOPE 04/11/18 2:48:12 AM #34:	You continue to slay me, SMAL. Keep it up. --- http://i.imgur.com/kpXTakw.gif http://i.imgur.com/Pto3yPa.jpg http://media.giphy.com/media/NBVBnHv8bV13q/giphy.gif <cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted [p:899450100] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote>You continue to slay me, SMAL. Keep it up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 04/11/18 3:36:03 AM #35:	FrisbeeDude posted... Sativa_Rose posted... Rika_Furude posted... If there are 100 seats available, and the top 100 condidates are asian, that class should be 100% asian According to some, this is racism. Start taking away from the legacy kids and see how hard the same white people clamoring for this change their minds. Lmao is what it is. Go after the 'problem' that you can use to pander, yet ignore the real problem Most people don't benefit from legacy and would be fine to do away with it, myself included. --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:899451269] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>If there are 100 seats available, and the top 100 condidates are asian, that class should be 100% asian</quote> According to some, this is racism.</quote> Start taking away from the legacy kids and see how hard the same white people clamoring for this change their minds. Lmao is what it is. Go after the 'problem' that you can use to pander, yet ignore the real problem</quote> Most people don't benefit from legacy and would be fine to do away with it, myself included.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JordanPeterson 04/11/18 11:40:48 AM #36:	Sativa_Rose posted... FrisbeeDude posted... Sativa_Rose posted... Rika_Furude posted... If there are 100 seats available, and the top 100 condidates are asian, that class should be 100% asian According to some, this is racism. Start taking away from the legacy kids and see how hard the same white people clamoring for this change their minds. Lmao is what it is. Go after the 'problem' that you can use to pander, yet ignore the real problem Most people don't benefit from legacy and would be fine to do away with it, myself included. I'm ok with eliminating the legacy benefit as well. --- https://i.imgur.com/MhZjeyp.jpg https://youtu.be/eyC_NKEz62A https://youtu.be/sCq3K2O8htw <cite>JordanPeterson posted [p:899464464] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>If there are 100 seats available, and the top 100 condidates are asian, that class should be 100% asian</quote> According to some, this is racism.</quote> Start taking away from the legacy kids and see how hard the same white people clamoring for this change their minds. Lmao is what it is. Go after the 'problem' that you can use to pander, yet ignore the real problem</quote> Most people don't benefit from legacy and would be fine to do away with it, myself included.</quote> I'm ok with eliminating the legacy benefit as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 04/11/18 11:44:42 AM #37:	this topic is just one continuous trainwreck after another --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:899464657] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote>this topic is just one continuous trainwreck after another</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 04/11/18 11:45:02 AM #38:	Sativa_Rose posted... Rika_Furude posted... If there are 100 seats available, and the top 100 condidates are asian, that class should be 100% asian According to some, this is racism. Namely, Democrats --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:899464676] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>If there are 100 seats available, and the top 100 condidates are asian, that class should be 100% asian</quote> According to some, this is racism.</quote> Namely, Democrats</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 04/11/18 11:47:34 AM #39:	FrisbeeDude posted... https://twitter.com/samswey/status/981753899253198848?s=19 And? Statistically, it's likely those white legacy students are better students academically anyway. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:899464793] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/samswey/status/981753899253198848?s=19</quote> And? Statistically, it's likely those white legacy students are better students academically anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta X 04/11/18 11:48:42 AM #40:	Who is SMAL again? --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Capcom Defense Force <cite>Veggeta X posted [p:899464852] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote>Who is SMAL again?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreveraIone 04/11/18 11:49:07 AM #41:	Veggeta X posted... Who is SMAL again? sir mix a lot. Korean American lawyer who hates blacks and hispanics --- https://i.imgur.com/aVTScxQ.jpg Always. Edgy. <cite>foreveraIone posted [p:899464881] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>Veggeta X posted...</cite> <quote>Who is SMAL again?</quote> sir mix a lot. Korean American lawyer who hates blacks and hispanics</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacadamianNut3 04/11/18 11:50:41 AM #42:	FrisbeeDude posted... https://twitter.com/samswey/status/981753899253198848?s=19 Glad you posted a link because I was about to say while people are whining about affirmative action, the actual thing fucking over people is legacy admissions. But I wasn't gonna search for a link because this shitty argument has been made 100+ times on this board. The same topic will be made next month starting back at square one Legacy admissions being the main culprit is common knowledge to anyone who has gone through the process of applying to a college, assuming it's not a community college, since one of the first things they ask you is if you had relatives who attended the school --- Roll Tide & Go Irish <cite>MacadamianNut3 posted [p:899464953] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/samswey/status/981753899253198848?s=19</quote> Glad you posted a link because I was about to say while people are whining about affirmative action, the actual thing fucking over people is legacy admissions. But I wasn't gonna search for a link because this shitty argument has been made 100+ times on this board. The same topic will be made next month starting back at square one Legacy admissions being the main culprit is common knowledge to anyone who has gone through the process of applying to a college, assuming it's not a community college, since one of the first things they ask you is if you had relatives who attended the school</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacadamianNut3 04/11/18 11:54:27 AM #43:	darkjedilink posted... And? Statistically, it's likely those white legacy students are better students academically anyway. Source: your ass https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_preferences nb4 someone reads the part about the SAT bump and ignores the following sentences --- Roll Tide & Go Irish <cite>MacadamianNut3 posted [p:899465139] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>And? Statistically, it's likely those white legacy students are better students academically anyway.</quote> Source: your ass https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_preferences nb4 someone reads the part about the SAT bump and ignores the following sentences</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 04/11/18 11:54:41 AM #44:	MacadamianNut3 posted... FrisbeeDude posted... https://twitter.com/samswey/status/981753899253198848?s=19 Glad you posted a link because I was about to say while people are whining about affirmative action, the actual thing fucking over people is legacy admissions. But I wasn't gonna search for a link because this shitty argument has been made 100+ times on this board. The same topic will be made next month starting back at square one Legacy admissions being the main culprit is common knowledge to anyone who has gone through the process of applying to a college, assuming it's not a community college, since one of the first things they ask you is if you had relatives who attended the school Going after legacy kids doesn't have the same sizzle as going after broke black and Hispanic kids. Also, the latter group is easier to take on in court --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:899465151] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>MacadamianNut3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/samswey/status/981753899253198848?s=19</quote> Glad you posted a link because I was about to say while people are whining about affirmative action, the actual thing fucking over people is legacy admissions. But I wasn't gonna search for a link because this shitty argument has been made 100+ times on this board. The same topic will be made next month starting back at square one Legacy admissions being the main culprit is common knowledge to anyone who has gone through the process of applying to a college, assuming it's not a community college, since one of the first things they ask you is if you had relatives who attended the school</quote> Going after legacy kids doesn't have the same sizzle as going after broke black and Hispanic kids. Also, the latter group is easier to take on in court</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 04/11/18 11:58:35 AM #45:	MacadamianNut3 posted... darkjedilink posted... And? Statistically, it's likely those white legacy students are better students academically anyway. Source: your ass https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_preferences nb4 someone reads the part about the SAT bump and ignores the following sentences The following sentences don't really change the SAT bump. As a matter of fact, it proves that the lawsuit has merit. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:899465318] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>MacadamianNut3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>And? Statistically, it's likely those white legacy students are better students academically anyway.</quote> Source: your ass https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_preferences nb4 someone reads the part about the SAT bump and ignores the following sentences</quote> The following sentences don't really change the SAT bump. As a matter of fact, it proves that the lawsuit has merit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacadamianNut3 04/11/18 12:04:12 PM #46:	darkjedilink posted... The following sentences don't really change the SAT bump If you forgot, the argument is about admissions. The SAT bump part demonstrates how even with it, legacy preferences trump that benefit I know this is super complex stuff to follow but we might be slowly discovering that if you personally ever got rejected from a school, it most likely wasn't because some random undeserving minority got in over you, but because you have the reading comprehension of a brick --- Roll Tide & Go Irish <cite>MacadamianNut3 posted [p:899465612] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>The following sentences don't really change the SAT bump</quote> If you forgot, the argument is about admissions. The SAT bump part demonstrates how even with it, legacy preferences trump that benefit I know this is super complex stuff to follow but we might be slowly discovering that if you personally ever got rejected from a school, it most likely wasn't because some random undeserving minority got in over you, but because you have the reading comprehension of a brick</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YOUHAVENOHOPE 04/11/18 12:07:01 PM #47:	MacadamianNut3 posted... darkjedilink posted... The following sentences don't really change the SAT bump If you forgot, the argument is about admissions. The SAT bump part demonstrates how even with it, legacy preferences trump that benefit I know this is super complex stuff to follow but we might be slowly discovering that if you personally ever got rejected from a school, it most likely wasn't because some random undeserving minority got in over you, but because you have the reading comprehension of a brick --- http://i.imgur.com/kpXTakw.gif http://i.imgur.com/Pto3yPa.jpg http://media.giphy.com/media/NBVBnHv8bV13q/giphy.gif <cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted [p:899465769] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>MacadamianNut3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>The following sentences don't really change the SAT bump</quote> If you forgot, the argument is about admissions. The SAT bump part demonstrates how even with it, legacy preferences trump that benefit I know this is super complex stuff to follow but we might be slowly discovering that if you personally ever got rejected from a school, it most likely wasn't because some random undeserving minority got in over you, but because you have the reading comprehension of a brick</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 04/11/18 12:11:30 PM #48:	legendarylemur posted... but I know for a fact that I got better grades and SAT/ACT scores than like 30% of the people that get accepted to Ivy League colleges. I also got better grades and SAT/ACT scores than a large chunk of people who get accepted to Ivy League colleges. I'm white. Many white people with worse "stats" got in above me. That's not white discrimination. It's legacy people. It's the "shortcomings" of (being first in your class when there are 120 people doesn't look as impressive, even though you can't do any better than that. My teacher references were glowing, but who gives a ** what random no-name rural teachers think about students?). --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:899466030] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>legendarylemur posted...</cite> <quote> but I know for a fact that I got better grades and SAT/ACT scores than like 30% of the people that get accepted to Ivy League colleges.</quote> I also got better grades and SAT/ACT scores than a large chunk of people who get accepted to Ivy League colleges. I'm white. Many white people with worse "stats" got in above me. That's not white discrimination. It's legacy people. It's the "shortcomings" of (being first in your class when there are 120 people doesn't look as impressive, even though you can't do any better than that. My teacher references were glowing, but who gives a ** what random no-name rural teachers think about students?).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 04/11/18 12:20:54 PM #49:	MacadamianNut3 posted... darkjedilink posted... The following sentences don't really change the SAT bump If you forgot, the argument is about admissions. The SAT bump part demonstrates how even with it, legacy preferences trump that benefit Again, so fucking what? Statistically speaking, white students are better academically than black students. This logically carries over to legacies, and your SAT bump proves me right. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:899466557] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>MacadamianNut3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>The following sentences don't really change the SAT bump</quote> If you forgot, the argument is about admissions. The SAT bump part demonstrates how even with it, legacy preferences trump that benefit</quote> Again, so fucking what? Statistically speaking, white students are better academically than black students. This logically carries over to legacies, and your SAT bump proves me right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacadamianNut3 04/11/18 12:23:48 PM #50:	darkjedilink posted... Again, so fucking what? Statistically speaking, white students are better academically than black students. This logically carries over to legacies, and your SAT bump proves me right. I stand uncorrected as you continue sticking your hand up your ass in attempt to make a point It took me 10 seconds on mobile to pull up something that even remotely backs up what I said, why is it so hard for you Even had this delicious tidbit included wow wiki what a great site for lazy researching As a body of entering freshmen, legacies almost invariably have substantially lower GPAs and SAT scores than the larger body of entering freshmen, and, during their undergraduate careers, legacies as a body of students typically perform worse than the overall student body. Unfortunately no direct citation for that statement, but I'm gonna take it at face value right now because compared to what you've brought to the table (nothing), this looks slightly more convincing. I'll check back in on you in an hour --- Roll Tide & Go Irish <cite>MacadamianNut3 posted [p:899466730] in Lawsuit ag... [t:76505488]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Again, so fucking what? Statistically speaking, white students are better academically than black students. This logically carries over to legacies, and your SAT bump proves me right.</quote> I stand uncorrected as you continue sticking your hand up your ass in attempt to make a point It took me 10 seconds on mobile to pull up something that even remotely backs up what I said, why is it so hard for you Even had this delicious tidbit included wow wiki what a great site for lazy researching As a body of entering freshmen, legacies almost invariably have substantially lower GPAs and SAT scores than the larger body of entering freshmen, and, during their undergraduate careers, legacies as a body of students typically perform worse than the overall student body. Unfortunately no direct citation for that statement, but I'm gonna take it at face value right now because compared to what you've brought to the table (nothing), this looks slightly more convincing. I'll check back in on you in an hour</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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