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solosnake 04/09/18 8:45:09 AM #1:	http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43673331 --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade http://i.imgur.com/MYYEIx5.gif http://i.imgur.com/WGE12ef.jpg <cite>solosnake posted [p:899330205] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote>http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43673331</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kid_Buu 04/09/18 8:46:38 AM #2:	Trump's America --- anime girls either need a dick or thicc for me to want to have relations with them im kaname btw <cite>Kid_Buu posted [p:899330251] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote>Trump's America</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 04/09/18 8:47:02 AM #3:	Intolerable. When are Americans going to stand up and say no more to police brutality? --- Pic of my gf and me: https://imgur.com/gallery/blAC3 Link to my Pokemon Board:https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1409-the-pokemon-center <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:899330268] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote>Intolerable. When are Americans going to stand up and say no more to police brutality?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knutjob 04/09/18 8:47:06 AM #4:	It's not so much "no longer" as here is an archaic law that nobody ever bothered to get rid of and can be exploited when it suits. <cite>knutjob posted [p:899330271] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote>It's not so much "no longer" as here is an archaic law that nobody ever bothered to get rid of and can be exploited when it suits.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cheater87 04/09/18 8:49:31 AM #5:	Why did he laugh at the sentence he was given? --- http://i.imgur.com/OlAyuQb.jpg http://i.imgur.com/KnLuqux.jpg <cite>Cheater87 posted [p:899330345] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote>Why did he laugh at the sentence he was given?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kid_Buu 04/09/18 8:50:01 AM #6:	Cheater87 posted... Why did he laugh at the sentence he was given? because it's bullshit? --- anime girls either need a dick or thicc for me to want to have relations with them im kaname btw <cite>Kid_Buu posted [p:899330364] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cheater87 posted...</cite> <quote>Why did he laugh at the sentence he was given?</quote> because it's bullshit?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mattnd2007 04/09/18 8:51:43 AM #7:	That is fucking stupid. Poor guy. That law is stupid as fuck --- Steppin on the beach doot doot do <cite>mattnd2007 posted [p:899330418] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote>That is fucking stupid. Poor guy. That law is stupid as fuck</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 04/09/18 8:52:21 AM #8:	I dont really feel bad for this scumbag and his friends going on a burglary spree, but I dont like the application of the law at all here. And 65 years seems ridiculous. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:899330441] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote>I dont really feel bad for this scumbag and his friends going on a burglary spree, but I dont like the application of the law at all here. And 65 years seems ridiculous.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 04/09/18 8:53:36 AM #9:	This has been a thing for a while, actually --- http://i.imgur.com/ByKGlJb.gif http://i.imgur.com/nZdaA8D.gif http://i.imgur.com/VBLBILg.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:899330474] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote>This has been a thing for a while, actually</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thelovefist 04/09/18 8:54:39 AM #10:	Imagine not understanding words. --- N/A <cite>thelovefist posted [p:899330517] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote>Imagine not understanding words.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cal12 04/09/18 8:55:47 AM #11:	The murder charge is insane but he deserves the rest. <cite>Cal12 posted [p:899330557] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote>The murder charge is insane but he deserves the rest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
l Dudeboy l 04/09/18 8:56:39 AM #12:	lolamerica --- You are now breathing manually. Lets put a little lead in the air, and see what falls over. <cite>l Dudeboy l posted [p:899330581] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote>lolamerica</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 04/09/18 8:57:08 AM #13:	CableZL posted... This has been a thing for a while, actually Yup. The Admiral posted... And 65 years seems ridiculous. Hell get a chance to get out in 15-20 years, enough for the other shit he did, so if he behaves he can get out. Good to go. --- http://m.imgur.com/BtD5etN?r https://m.imgur.com/a/jclul http://i.imgtc.com/etNW2apANm.jpg <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:899330599] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote>This has been a thing for a while, actually</quote> Yup. <cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>And 65 years seems ridiculous.</quote> Hell get a chance to get out in 15-20 years, enough for the other shit he did, so if he behaves he can get out. Good to go.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 04/09/18 8:57:38 AM #14:	There's something similar to this in Canada as well, like when someone dies as a result of you committing a crime. In any event I fucking hate burglars. There's few things lower than breaking into people's homes. What do you do if you find grandma knitting on her sofa during the burglary? Fuck them. --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:899330620] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote>There's something similar to this in Canada as well, like when someone dies as a result of you committing a crime. In any event I fucking hate burglars. There's few things lower than breaking into people's homes. What do you do if you find grandma knitting on her sofa during the burglary? Fuck them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WilliamPorygon 04/09/18 8:57:44 AM #15:	One of the most famous examples involved a man convicted of murder for loaning his car to friends who went on to murder an 18-year-old girl. According to prosecutors, it didn't matter that he was 30 minutes away. ...what the flying fuck. --- Love dolphins and whales? Come hang out at Cetacea Cove! https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1404-cetacea-cove <cite>WilliamPorygon posted [p:899330622] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote><quote>One of the most famous examples involved a man convicted of murder for loaning his car to friends who went on to murder an 18-year-old girl. According to prosecutors, it didn't matter that he was 30 minutes away.</quote> ...what the flying fuck.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/09/18 8:58:30 AM #16:	"If you're gonna bring a gun and commit a crime and somebody dies, there's consequences in Alabama - it's felony-murder," he says. Anyone who supports this logic is a lunatic IMO. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:899330657] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote>"If you're gonna bring a gun and commit a crime and somebody dies, there's consequences in Alabama - it's felony-murder," he says. Anyone who supports this logic is a lunatic IMO.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 04/09/18 8:59:46 AM #17:	21 Things Your Burglar Wont Tell You https://modernsurvivalblog.com/security/21-things-your-burglar-wont-tell-you/ 1. Of course I look familiar. I was here just last week cleaning your carpets, painting your shutters, or delivering your new refrigerator. --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:899330697] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote>21 Things Your Burglar Wont Tell You https://modernsurvivalblog.com/security/21-things-your-burglar-wont-tell-you/ <quote>1. Of course I look familiar. I was here just last week cleaning your carpets, painting your shutters, or delivering your new refrigerator.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePieReborn 04/09/18 9:00:02 AM #18:	Proximate cause theory for felony murder is pretty fucking stupid. --- Party leader, passive-aggressive doormat, pasta eater extraordinaire! <cite>ThePieReborn posted [p:899330705] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote>Proximate cause theory for felony murder is pretty fucking stupid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StucklnMyPants 04/09/18 9:00:19 AM #19:	The Admiral posted... I dont really feel bad for this scumbag and his friends going on a burglary spree, but I dont like the application of the law at all here. And 65 years seems ridiculous. They offered a 25 year plea deal, but he turned it down. --- Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes. <cite>StucklnMyPants posted [p:899330712] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>I dont really feel bad for this scumbag and his friends going on a burglary spree, but I dont like the application of the law at all here. And 65 years seems ridiculous.</quote> They offered a 25 year plea deal, but he turned it down.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet69 04/09/18 9:01:51 AM #20:	StucklnMyPants posted... The Admiral posted... I dont really feel bad for this scumbag and his friends going on a burglary spree, but I dont like the application of the law at all here. And 65 years seems ridiculous. They offered a 25 year plea deal, but he turned it down. Still ridiculous --- Alt of Genocet_10-325 Conservatism is a plague on society. <cite>Genocet69 posted [p:899330760] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote><cite>StucklnMyPants posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>I dont really feel bad for this scumbag and his friends going on a burglary spree, but I dont like the application of the law at all here. And 65 years seems ridiculous.</quote> They offered a 25 year plea deal, but he turned it down.</quote> Still ridiculous</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/09/18 9:02:02 AM #21:	StucklnMyPants posted... The Admiral posted... I dont really feel bad for this scumbag and his friends going on a burglary spree, but I dont like the application of the law at all here. And 65 years seems ridiculous. They offered a 25 year plea deal, but he turned it down. That doesn't defend this --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:899330769] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote><cite>StucklnMyPants posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>I dont really feel bad for this scumbag and his friends going on a burglary spree, but I dont like the application of the law at all here. And 65 years seems ridiculous.</quote> They offered a 25 year plea deal, but he turned it down.</quote> That doesn't defend this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 04/09/18 9:02:20 AM #22:	UnfairRepresent posted... "If you're gonna bring a gun and commit a crime and somebody dies, there's consequences in Alabama - it's felony-murder," he says. Anyone who supports this logic is a lunatic IMO. Meh. You could say that someone dying as a result of you bringing a crime with you to commit a gun is something you should've foreseen. You're putting everyone in danger and you shouldn't be surprised if someone dies. One of the most famous examples involved a man convicted of murder for loaning his car to friends who went on to murder an 18-year-old girl. According to prosecutors, it didn't matter that he was 30 minutes away. This, however, is completely batshit insane. What the actual fuck. --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:899330776] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>"If you're gonna bring a gun and commit a crime and somebody dies, there's consequences in Alabama - it's felony-murder," he says. Anyone who supports this logic is a lunatic IMO.</quote> Meh. You could say that someone dying as a result of you bringing a crime with you to commit a gun is something you should've foreseen. You're putting everyone in danger and you shouldn't be surprised if someone dies. <quote>One of the most famous examples involved a man convicted of murder for loaning his car to friends who went on to murder an 18-year-old girl. According to prosecutors, it didn't matter that he was 30 minutes away.</quote> This, however, is completely batshit insane. What the actual fuck.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
solosnake 04/09/18 9:04:33 AM #23:	StucklnMyPants posted... The Admiral posted... I dont really feel bad for this scumbag and his friends going on a burglary spree, but I dont like the application of the law at all here. And 65 years seems ridiculous. They offered a 25 year plea deal, but he turned it down. If the police shot and killed your friend, and then came to you and said hey if you plead guilty to murder, then youll only get 25 years. Would you do it? Or would you laugh in the courtroom at how **ing stupid the system is? --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade http://i.imgur.com/MYYEIx5.gif http://i.imgur.com/WGE12ef.jpg <cite>solosnake posted [p:899330831] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote><cite>StucklnMyPants posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>I dont really feel bad for this scumbag and his friends going on a burglary spree, but I dont like the application of the law at all here. And 65 years seems ridiculous.</quote> They offered a 25 year plea deal, but he turned it down.</quote> If the police shot and killed your friend, and then came to you and said hey if you plead guilty to murder, then youll only get 25 years. Would you do it? Or would you laugh in the courtroom at how **ing stupid the system is?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StucklnMyPants 04/09/18 9:05:23 AM #24:	https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/04/05/teen-accomplice-sentenced-65-years/492001002/ That article also glosses over the fact that the teens fired shots at the officers. The accomplice charge in this case is because they were armed, shot at officers while committing a felony, which resulted in the death of a teen. --- Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes. <cite>StucklnMyPants posted [p:899330860] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote>https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/04/05/teen-accomplice-sentenced-65-years/492001002/ That article also glosses over the fact that the teens fired shots at the officers. The accomplice charge in this case is because they were armed, shot at officers while committing a felony, which resulted in the death of a teen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 04/09/18 9:05:44 AM #25:	Under Alabama's accomplice liability law, Smith is considered just as culpable in Washington's death as if he had pulled the trigger himself. Don't equate the whole US to this garbage state. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 2 (1) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:899330870] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote><quote>Under Alabama's accomplice liability law, Smith is considered just as culpable in Washington's death as if he had pulled the trigger himself. </quote> Don't equate the whole US to this garbage state.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 04/09/18 9:06:16 AM #26:	voldothegr8 posted... Under Alabama's accomplice liability law, Smith is considered just as culpable in Washington's death as if he had pulled the trigger himself. Don't equate the whole US to this garbage state. Yeah, well it shouldn't be a thing anywhere. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:899330885] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Under Alabama's accomplice liability law, Smith is considered just as culpable in Washington's death as if he had pulled the trigger himself. </quote> Don't equate the whole US to this garbage state.</quote> Yeah, well it shouldn't be a thing anywhere.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
St0rmFury 04/09/18 9:06:31 AM #27:	So cops can just simply discharge their weapons and pin any collateral damage / casualties on the perps? --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) <cite>St0rmFury posted [p:899330894] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote>So cops can just simply discharge their weapons and pin any collateral damage / casualties on the perps?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blo 04/09/18 9:07:33 AM #28:	voldothegr8 posted... Under Alabama's accomplice liability law, Smith is considered just as culpable in Washington's death as if he had pulled the trigger himself. Don't equate the whole US to this garbage state. Felony murder is on the books in a lot more places than just Alabama --- insert sig here <cite>Blo posted [p:899330920] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Under Alabama's accomplice liability law, Smith is considered just as culpable in Washington's death as if he had pulled the trigger himself. </quote> Don't equate the whole US to this garbage state.</quote> Felony murder is on the books in a lot more places than just Alabama</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 04/09/18 9:08:20 AM #29:	UnfairRepresent posted... "If you're gonna bring a gun and commit a crime and somebody dies, there's consequences in Alabama - it's felony-murder," he says. Anyone who supports this logic is a lunatic IMO. Literally makes no sense. Its sad to have so many idiots running the country. --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:899330945] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>"If you're gonna bring a gun and commit a crime and somebody dies, there's consequences in Alabama - it's felony-murder," he says. Anyone who supports this logic is a lunatic IMO.</quote> Literally makes no sense. Its sad to have so many idiots running the country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 04/09/18 9:09:01 AM #30:	Terra-enforcer posted... UnfairRepresent posted... "If you're gonna bring a gun and commit a crime and somebody dies, there's consequences in Alabama - it's felony-murder," he says. Anyone who supports this logic is a lunatic IMO. Literally makes no sense. Its sad to have so many idiots running Alabama. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 2 (1) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:899330969] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>"If you're gonna bring a gun and commit a crime and somebody dies, there's consequences in Alabama - it's felony-murder," he says. Anyone who supports this logic is a lunatic IMO.</quote> Literally makes no sense. Its sad to have so many idiots running Alabama.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mattnd2007 04/09/18 9:09:02 AM #31:	StucklnMyPants posted... https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/04/05/teen-accomplice-sentenced-65-years/492001002/ That article also glosses over the fact that the teens fired shots at the officers. The accomplice charge in this case is because they were armed, shot at officers while committing a felony, which resulted in the death of a teen. Still doesn't sound like Smith shot at the cops. Dude should absolutely be charged for the burglary. But being held responsible for the death of his friend is stupid --- Steppin on the beach doot doot do <cite>mattnd2007 posted [p:899330970] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote><cite>StucklnMyPants posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/04/05/teen-accomplice-sentenced-65-years/492001002/ That article also glosses over the fact that the teens fired shots at the officers. The accomplice charge in this case is because they were armed, shot at officers while committing a felony, which resulted in the death of a teen.</quote> Still doesn't sound like Smith shot at the cops. Dude should absolutely be charged for the burglary. But being held responsible for the death of his friend is stupid</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 04/09/18 9:10:15 AM #32:	St0rmFury posted... So cops can just simply discharge their weapons and pin any collateral damage / casualties on the perps? I wonder how far you can take this. Imagine if you're riding in a car with your friend driving. Unbeknownst to you, your friend has a suspended license. So when he sees a police car, he starts running away from it. The cops give chase and shoot your friend. Can you be charged with murder? --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:899331001] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote><cite>St0rmFury posted...</cite> <quote>So cops can just simply discharge their weapons and pin any collateral damage / casualties on the perps?</quote> I wonder how far you can take this. Imagine if you're riding in a car with your friend driving. Unbeknownst to you, your friend has a suspended license. So when he sees a police car, he starts running away from it. The cops give chase and shoot your friend. Can you be charged with murder?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/09/18 9:11:24 AM #33:	mattnd2007 posted... StucklnMyPants posted... https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/04/05/teen-accomplice-sentenced-65-years/492001002/ That article also glosses over the fact that the teens fired shots at the officers. The accomplice charge in this case is because they were armed, shot at officers while committing a felony, which resulted in the death of a teen. Still doesn't sound like Smith shot at the cops. Dude should absolutely be charged for the burglary. But being held responsible for the death of his friend is stupid Dis --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:899331046] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote><cite>mattnd2007 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StucklnMyPants posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/04/05/teen-accomplice-sentenced-65-years/492001002/ That article also glosses over the fact that the teens fired shots at the officers. The accomplice charge in this case is because they were armed, shot at officers while committing a felony, which resulted in the death of a teen.</quote> Still doesn't sound like Smith shot at the cops. Dude should absolutely be charged for the burglary. But being held responsible for the death of his friend is stupid</quote> Dis</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
solosnake 04/09/18 9:12:20 AM #34:	frozenshock posted... St0rmFury posted... So cops can just simply discharge their weapons and pin any collateral damage / casualties on the perps? I wonder how far you can take this. Imagine if you're riding in a car with your friend driving. Unbeknownst to you, your friend has a suspended license. So when he sees a police car, he starts running away from it. The cops give chase and shoot your friend. Can you be charged with murder? If the cop is having a bad day, or decides he doesnt like you? Absolutely yes --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade http://i.imgur.com/MYYEIx5.gif http://i.imgur.com/WGE12ef.jpg <cite>solosnake posted [p:899331085] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>St0rmFury posted...</cite> <quote>So cops can just simply discharge their weapons and pin any collateral damage / casualties on the perps?</quote> I wonder how far you can take this. Imagine if you're riding in a car with your friend driving. Unbeknownst to you, your friend has a suspended license. So when he sees a police car, he starts running away from it. The cops give chase and shoot your friend. Can you be charged with murder?</quote> If the cop is having a bad day, or decides he doesnt like you? Absolutely yes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 04/09/18 9:12:41 AM #35:	mattnd2007 posted... Still doesn't sound like Smith shot at the cops. Dude should absolutely be charged for the burglary. But being held responsible for the death of his friend is stupid Honestly, when you agree to commit a burglary, you agree to commit a crime where someone dying is a foreseeable consequence. What do you do if you find someone in the home? It's not unlikely that one of your accomplices will try to kill that person to avoid being recognized. Burglaries aren't exactly minor crimes, even if those guys are teenagers. --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:899331093] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote><cite>mattnd2007 posted...</cite> <quote>Still doesn't sound like Smith shot at the cops. Dude should absolutely be charged for the burglary. But being held responsible for the death of his friend is stupid</quote> Honestly, when you agree to commit a burglary, you agree to commit a crime where someone dying is a foreseeable consequence. What do you do if you find someone in the home? It's not unlikely that one of your accomplices will try to kill that person to avoid being recognized. Burglaries aren't exactly minor crimes, even if those guys are teenagers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 04/09/18 9:12:52 AM #36:	frozenshock posted... St0rmFury posted... So cops can just simply discharge their weapons and pin any collateral damage / casualties on the perps? I wonder how far you can take this. Imagine if you're riding in a car with your friend driving. Unbeknownst to you, your friend has a suspended license. So when he sees a police car, he starts running away from it. The cops give chase and shoot your friend. Can you be charged with murder? In this example you were not committing a crime, your friend was --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:899331101] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>St0rmFury posted...</cite> <quote>So cops can just simply discharge their weapons and pin any collateral damage / casualties on the perps?</quote> I wonder how far you can take this. Imagine if you're riding in a car with your friend driving. Unbeknownst to you, your friend has a suspended license. So when he sees a police car, he starts running away from it. The cops give chase and shoot your friend. Can you be charged with murder?</quote> In this example you were not committing a crime, your friend was</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 04/09/18 9:13:00 AM #37:	frozenshock posted... I wonder how far you can take this. For example, if a victim has a heart attack and dies while being robbed, the perpetrator can be charged with murder even if he had no intent to kill. If the robber's friend was sitting in a getaway car a block away, under accomplice liability, he too can be charged with murder. One of the most famous examples involved a man convicted of murder for loaning his car to friends who went on to murder an 18-year-old girl. According to prosecutors, it didn't matter that he was 30 minutes away. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:899331106] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote>I wonder how far you can take this.</quote> <quote>For example, if a victim has a heart attack and dies while being robbed, the perpetrator can be charged with murder even if he had no intent to kill. If the robber's friend was sitting in a getaway car a block away, under accomplice liability, he too can be charged with murder. One of the most famous examples involved a man convicted of murder for loaning his car to friends who went on to murder an 18-year-old girl. According to prosecutors, it didn't matter that he was 30 minutes away. </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 04/09/18 9:17:05 AM #39:	That will teach people to get killed by cops. Hopefully they will know better than to let the police kill someone in future now. --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:899331232] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote>That will teach people to get killed by cops. Hopefully they will know better than to let the police kill someone in future now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Golden_Key33 04/09/18 9:18:32 AM #40:	frozenshock posted... What do you do if you find grandma knitting on her sofa during the burglary? Fuck them. --- FC: 3926-5581-9610 IGN: Kieron TSV: 3418 Friend Safari: Cascoon, Ariados, Toxicroak <cite>Golden_Key33 posted [p:899331272] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote>What do you do if you find grandma knitting on her sofa during the burglary? Fuck them.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knutjob 04/09/18 9:18:51 AM #41:	voldothegr8 posted... Under Alabama's accomplice liability law, Smith is considered just as culpable in Washington's death as if he had pulled the trigger himself. Don't equate the whole US to this garbage state. All but 7 states have the same law <cite>knutjob posted [p:899331279] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Under Alabama's accomplice liability law, Smith is considered just as culpable in Washington's death as if he had pulled the trigger himself. </quote> Don't equate the whole US to this garbage state.</quote> All but 7 states have the same law</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 04/09/18 9:21:57 AM #42:	Why not arrest the boy's parents for giving birth to him? That seems correlated to the incident. --- "You will pay dearly for your futile resistance!" <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:899331378] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote>Why not arrest the boy's parents for giving birth to him? That seems correlated to the incident.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vicious_Dios 04/09/18 9:22:26 AM #43:	frozenshock posted... UnfairRepresent posted... "If you're gonna bring a gun and commit a crime and somebody dies, there's consequences in Alabama - it's felony-murder," he says. Anyone who supports this logic is a lunatic IMO. Meh. You could say that someone dying as a result of you bringing a gun with you to commit a crime is something you should've foreseen. You're putting everyone in danger and you shouldn't be surprised if someone dies. One of the most famous examples involved a man convicted of murder for loaning his car to friends who went on to murder an 18-year-old girl. According to prosecutors, it didn't matter that he was 30 minutes away. This, however, is completely batshit insane. What the actual fuck. --- S / K / Y / N / E Twitch/YouTube/GT: *Adzeta* <cite>Vicious_Dios posted [p:899331394] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>"If you're gonna bring a gun and commit a crime and somebody dies, there's consequences in Alabama - it's felony-murder," he says. Anyone who supports this logic is a lunatic IMO.</quote> Meh. You could say that someone dying as a result of you bringing a gun with you to commit a crime is something you should've foreseen. You're putting everyone in danger and you shouldn't be surprised if someone dies. <quote>One of the most famous examples involved a man convicted of murder for loaning his car to friends who went on to murder an 18-year-old girl. According to prosecutors, it didn't matter that he was 30 minutes away.</quote> This, however, is completely batshit insane. What the actual fuck.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thelovefist 04/09/18 9:22:46 AM #44:	SageHarpuia posted... Why not arrest the boy's parents for giving birth to him? That seems correlated to the incident. This post is bad. --- N/A <cite>thelovefist posted [p:899331405] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote><cite>SageHarpuia posted...</cite> <quote>Why not arrest the boy's parents for giving birth to him? That seems correlated to the incident.</quote> This post is bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 04/09/18 9:26:04 AM #45:	StucklnMyPants posted... https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/04/05/teen-accomplice-sentenced-65-years/492001002/ That article also glosses over the fact that the teens fired shots at the officers. The accomplice charge in this case is because they were armed, shot at officers while committing a felony, which resulted in the death of a teen. Several armed robbers who aren't reluctant to use their weapons. To me, that sounds like a scenario where a homeowner might like to have an AR-15 with a standard capacity magazine (30 rounds) --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:899331509] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote><cite>StucklnMyPants posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/04/05/teen-accomplice-sentenced-65-years/492001002/ That article also glosses over the fact that the teens fired shots at the officers. The accomplice charge in this case is because they were armed, shot at officers while committing a felony, which resulted in the death of a teen.</quote> Several armed robbers who aren't reluctant to use their weapons. To me, that sounds like a scenario where a homeowner might like to have an AR-15 with a standard capacity magazine (30 rounds)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 04/09/18 9:29:29 AM #46:	DifferentialEquation posted... StucklnMyPants posted... https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/04/05/teen-accomplice-sentenced-65-years/492001002/ That article also glosses over the fact that the teens fired shots at the officers. The accomplice charge in this case is because they were armed, shot at officers while committing a felony, which resulted in the death of a teen. Several armed robbers who aren't reluctant to use their weapons. To me, that sounds like a scenario where a homeowner might like to have an AR-15 with a standard capacity magazine (30 rounds) Maybe they should have invested in an alarm system. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:899331609] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StucklnMyPants posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/04/05/teen-accomplice-sentenced-65-years/492001002/ That article also glosses over the fact that the teens fired shots at the officers. The accomplice charge in this case is because they were armed, shot at officers while committing a felony, which resulted in the death of a teen.</quote> Several armed robbers who aren't reluctant to use their weapons. To me, that sounds like a scenario where a homeowner might like to have an AR-15 with a standard capacity magazine (30 rounds)</quote> Maybe they should have invested in an alarm system.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darksaber310 04/09/18 9:31:51 AM #47:	WilliamPorygon posted... One of the most famous examples involved a man convicted of murder for loaning his car to friends who went on to murder an 18-year-old girl. According to prosecutors, it didn't matter that he was 30 minutes away. ...what the flying fuck. Since they deigned not to give any info about the case other than the sentencing I'm gonna guess there was some provable intent previous to the car being lent. The way they gloss over the reason he's being charged (the shootout, breaking and entering, burglary, assault with a deadly weapon) lends them little credence to their factual acumen. This kind of law exists in many states. I remember the last time I heard about it cops shot a guy outside a club and a bystander got tagged and they dropped that right on his charges. --- Once again snatching defeat, From the jaws of victory. <cite>Darksaber310 posted [p:899331691] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote><cite>WilliamPorygon posted...</cite> <quote><quote>One of the most famous examples involved a man convicted of murder for loaning his car to friends who went on to murder an 18-year-old girl. According to prosecutors, it didn't matter that he was 30 minutes away.</quote> ...what the flying fuck.</quote> Since they deigned not to give any info about the case other than the sentencing I'm gonna guess there was some provable intent previous to the car being lent. The way they gloss over the reason he's being charged (the shootout, breaking and entering, burglary, assault with a deadly weapon) lends them little credence to their factual acumen. This kind of law exists in many states. I remember the last time I heard about it cops shot a guy outside a club and a bystander got tagged and they dropped that right on his charges.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 04/09/18 9:34:35 AM #48:	I am against these dumb laws. Also in that case about the lending of the car, that only makes sense if he let them use it for that specific purpose --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:899331777] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote>I am against these dumb laws. Also in that case about the lending of the car, that only makes sense if he let them use it for that specific purpose</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 04/09/18 9:38:07 AM #49:	Darksaber310 posted... WilliamPorygon posted... One of the most famous examples involved a man convicted of murder for loaning his car to friends who went on to murder an 18-year-old girl. According to prosecutors, it didn't matter that he was 30 minutes away. ...what the flying fuck. Since they deigned not to give any info about the case other than the sentencing I'm gonna guess there was some provable intent previous to the car being lent. The way they gloss over the reason he's being charged (the shootout, breaking and entering, burglary, assault with a deadly weapon) lends them little credence to their factual acumen. This kind of law exists in many states. I remember the last time I heard about it cops shot a guy outside a club and a bystander got tagged and they dropped that right on his charges. I believe this is the case they're referencing: https://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/04/us/04felony.html --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:899331895] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darksaber310 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WilliamPorygon posted...</cite> <quote><quote>One of the most famous examples involved a man convicted of murder for loaning his car to friends who went on to murder an 18-year-old girl. According to prosecutors, it didn't matter that he was 30 minutes away.</quote> ...what the flying fuck.</quote> Since they deigned not to give any info about the case other than the sentencing I'm gonna guess there was some provable intent previous to the car being lent. The way they gloss over the reason he's being charged (the shootout, breaking and entering, burglary, assault with a deadly weapon) lends them little credence to their factual acumen. This kind of law exists in many states. I remember the last time I heard about it cops shot a guy outside a club and a bystander got tagged and they dropped that right on his charges.</quote> I believe this is the case they're referencing: https://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/04/us/04felony.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 04/09/18 9:40:02 AM #50:	Fantastic. Charles Manson is not a murderer but this kid is. What a great legal system we have. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:899331951] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote>Fantastic. Charles Manson is not a murderer but this kid is. What a great legal system we have.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 04/09/18 9:41:50 AM #51:	meanwhile, corporate crime is incentivized as the financial penalty frequently is less than the potential profit. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:899332016] in In the USA... [t:76499719]...</cite> <quote>meanwhile, corporate crime is incentivized as the financial penalty frequently is less than the potential profit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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