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ImTheMacheteGuy 04/08/18 7:29:59 PM #51:	Some of those are isolated incidents and others are fake news. Damn... I thought I was going to be too late to make this post an ib4 but I guess I wasn't. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:899295947] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote>Some of those are isolated incidents and others are fake news. Damn... I thought I was going to be too late to make this post an ib4 but I guess I wasn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 04/08/18 7:33:30 PM #52:	Shuto-uke posted... THE LIST WAS TOO BIG FOR A SINGLE POST! 16) In 1999 Trump was sued after he built a casino in black majority city and promised the mayor he would hire locals, and then refused to hire any blacks and opting to staff the casino with almost exclusively all white employees. 17) In 1997 Trump was sued for refusing to hire black models, among other charges. 18) In 1992 Trump was fined $200,000 by the New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement for not allowing blacks or women onto his casino floor while a personal friend of his who was a racist Mafia leader was gambling. 19) The first time Trump ever had his name in the newspaper was in 1973 and the newspaper headline was, Landlord accused of anti-black bias 20) In 1973 the Justice Department heard that Donald Trump was refusing to rent homes to black people. So they sent a black woman into one of the apartments and the woman offered the manager a 6 month down payment on rent. Only for him to tell her that there were no available apartments. Then 10 minutes later they sent a white woman in to ask to rent an apartment with no money and she was offered one on the spot. They did the same thing in 39 different apartment buildings all owned by Trump and the same thing happen every time. When they asked the tenant managers why they wouldnt rent homes to black people, every single one of them including two other employees working directly under Trump testified that when Donald took over the company from his father in 1970 he instructed them all to label every application into three categories, A would be white people with good credit B would be white people with bad credit C would be non-whites. Donald Trump told them to only consider applications from people in the A category. An interesting fact about this list, according to who made it, "I'm only counting accusations of racism that occurred before Trump even ran for president." All this has been debunked. If you actually look into these stories there's either no corroborating accounts or referencing one guy who claims to have worked for him, which would be really weird since all these things should have multiple employees saying the same thing. Which they don't. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:899296189] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote>THE LIST WAS TOO BIG FOR A SINGLE POST! 16) In 1999 Trump was sued after he built a casino in black majority city and promised the mayor he would hire locals, and then refused to hire any blacks and opting to staff the casino with almost exclusively all white employees. 17) In 1997 Trump was sued for refusing to hire black models, among other charges. 18) In 1992 Trump was fined $200,000 by the New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement for not allowing blacks or women onto his casino floor while a personal friend of his who was a racist Mafia leader was gambling. 19) The first time Trump ever had his name in the newspaper was in 1973 and the newspaper headline was, Landlord accused of anti-black bias 20) In 1973 the Justice Department heard that Donald Trump was refusing to rent homes to black people. So they sent a black woman into one of the apartments and the woman offered the manager a 6 month down payment on rent. Only for him to tell her that there were no available apartments. Then 10 minutes later they sent a white woman in to ask to rent an apartment with no money and she was offered one on the spot. They did the same thing in 39 different apartment buildings all owned by Trump and the same thing happen every time. When they asked the tenant managers why they wouldnt rent homes to black people, every single one of them including two other employees working directly under Trump testified that when Donald took over the company from his father in 1970 he instructed them all to label every application into three categories, A would be white people with good credit B would be white people with bad credit C would be non-whites. Donald Trump told them to only consider applications from people in the A category. An interesting fact about this list, according to who made it, "I'm only counting accusations of racism that occurred before Trump even ran for president."</quote> All this has been debunked. If you actually look into these stories there's either no corroborating accounts or referencing one guy who claims to have worked for him, which would be really weird since all these things should have multiple employees saying the same thing. Which they don't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 04/08/18 7:39:39 PM #53:	One guy made up 20 fake news things over several decades? Shit... he must not like trump very much :( trump sued his penis off for defamation right? --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:899296607] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote>One guy made up 20 fake news things over several decades? Shit... he must not like trump very much :( trump sued his penis off for defamation right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shuto-uke 04/08/18 7:41:07 PM #54:	And now @gatorsPENSbucs , here are some more recent examples than the ones in that list. These are all facts: 1) When he launched his campaign, his twitter cover picture was... German soldiers. Not American soldiers. Again, this might seem like an honest mistake, but keep this in mind according to "the duck principle" 2) He re-tweeted a tweet from a white supremacist account called 'white genocide". The tweet had swastikas, Bush Jr. characterized as a Mexican in a racist cartoon (blanket, siesta, cactus, sombero, etc) and other racist things. 3) He got called about about retweeting that specific account, and he was told it was a white supremacist account. So what did he do? He gave the excuse that he didn't know that it was a white supremacist account. "How would I know?"... only to later re-tweet the same account again with a different racist trope about "black violence". His excuse would not apply anymore 4) He retweeted a tweet calling Jeb Bush's wife illegal... because she is hispanic. 5) He came up with the term "bad hombres" to refer to illegals. It's kind of a slur now, and he caused it. Illegals can come in all shapes, languages and colors, yet he chose to cause this association. 6) During his campaign two men in Boston beat up a homeless hispanic man and urinated on him. They said "Trump is right, go back to Mexico". When it was brought to his attention he said "my followers are very passionate and want to MAGA". 7) There was a mass shooting in Aztec high school, new mexico, where a guy with ties to white supremacy shot hispanic students. He couldn't bring himself to tweet a single time about it or to acknowledge the incident even a single time. However, he acknowledges every single foreign incident that may even sound like islamic terrorism, and then he brings up in the same tweets the need to build a wall to keep the mexicans out (in case you didn't know, Mexicans are not middle eastern, and they're Catholic). 8) When he won Richard Spencer and others had a dinner where they gave nazi salutes and said "heil trump". He couldn't criticize spencer directly, not even once. Acquiescing was the name of the game. 9) He refused to acknowledge 5 de mayo (celebration for hispanic citizens) while acknowledging St. Patrick's and other parties like that. 10) The way he treated, and keeps treating Puerto Rico (or as he calls them to make fun of their accent, "poo-erto Ricoh!") after the hurricane. Puerto Ricans are US Citizens and PR is a US territory. These 10 examples are just on top of my head.Examples 9 and 10 are not that strong by themselves, but when you read the other 8 and then take them into account together... boy oh boy <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:899296711] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote>And now @gatorsPENSbucs , here are some more recent examples than the ones in that list. These are all facts: 1) When he launched his campaign, his twitter cover picture was... German soldiers. Not American soldiers. Again, this might seem like an honest mistake, but keep this in mind according to "the duck principle" 2) He re-tweeted a tweet from a white supremacist account called 'white genocide". The tweet had swastikas, Bush Jr. characterized as a Mexican in a racist cartoon (blanket, siesta, cactus, sombero, etc) and other racist things. 3) He got called about about retweeting that specific account, and he was told it was a white supremacist account. So what did he do? He gave the excuse that he didn't know that it was a white supremacist account. "How would I know?"... only to later re-tweet the same account again with a different racist trope about "black violence". His excuse would not apply anymore 4) He retweeted a tweet calling Jeb Bush's wife illegal... because she is hispanic. 5) He came up with the term "bad hombres" to refer to illegals. It's kind of a slur now, and he caused it. Illegals can come in all shapes, languages and colors, yet he chose to cause this association. 6) During his campaign two men in Boston beat up a homeless hispanic man and urinated on him. They said "Trump is right, go back to Mexico". When it was brought to his attention he said "my followers are very passionate and want to MAGA". 7) There was a mass shooting in Aztec high school, new mexico, where a guy with ties to white supremacy shot hispanic students. He couldn't bring himself to tweet a single time about it or to acknowledge the incident even a single time. However, he acknowledges every single foreign incident that may even sound like islamic terrorism, and then he brings up in the same tweets the need to build a wall to keep the mexicans out (in case you didn't know, Mexicans are not middle eastern, and they're Catholic). 8) When he won Richard Spencer and others had a dinner where they gave nazi salutes and said "heil trump". He couldn't criticize spencer directly, not even once. Acquiescing was the name of the game. 9) He refused to acknowledge 5 de mayo (celebration for hispanic citizens) while acknowledging St. Patrick's and other parties like that. 10) The way he treated, and keeps treating Puerto Rico (or as he calls them to make fun of their accent, "poo-erto Ricoh!") after the hurricane. Puerto Ricans are US Citizens and PR is a US territory. These 10 examples are just on top of my head.Examples 9 and 10 are not that strong by themselves, but when you read the other 8 and then take them into account together... boy oh boy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shuto-uke 04/08/18 7:42:06 PM #55:	Sephiroth1288 posted... All this has been debunked. Talk is cheap. Show me where they got debunked. <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:899296782] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>All this has been debunked.</quote> Talk is cheap. Show me where they got debunked.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 04/08/18 7:59:52 PM #56:	Shuto-uke posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... All this has been debunked. Talk is cheap. Show me where they got debunked. How about you actually back up each of your claims with sources before demanding others debunk them with sources? "Claims that are made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:899298104] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>All this has been debunked.</quote> Talk is cheap. Show me where they got debunked.</quote> How about you actually back up each of your claims with sources before demanding others debunk them with sources? "Claims that are made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shuto-uke 04/08/18 8:25:06 PM #57:	Sephiroth1288 posted... Shuto-uke posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... All this has been debunked. Talk is cheap. Show me where they got debunked. How about you actually back up each of your claims with sources before demanding others debunk them with sources? "Claims that are made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens You know what? Gators and me will have a nice back and forth. You take your juice box and let the adults talk will ya? <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:899300015] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>All this has been debunked.</quote> Talk is cheap. Show me where they got debunked.</quote> How about you actually back up each of your claims with sources before demanding others debunk them with sources? "Claims that are made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens</quote> You know what? Gators and me will have a nice back and forth. You take your juice box and let the adults talk will ya?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shuto-uke 04/08/18 8:32:36 PM #59:	shockthemonkey posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... Shuto-uke posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... All this has been debunked. Talk is cheap. Show me where they got debunked. How about you actually back up each of your claims with sources before demanding others debunk them with sources? "Claims that are made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens If youre going to say theyve been debunked then actually debunk them dude I think he is throwing himself at the proverbial grenade just to avoid that me and gators have this exchange. <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:899300620] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>All this has been debunked.</quote> Talk is cheap. Show me where they got debunked.</quote> How about you actually back up each of your claims with sources before demanding others debunk them with sources? "Claims that are made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens</quote> If youre going to say theyve been debunked then actually debunk them dude</quote> I think he is throwing himself at the proverbial grenade just to avoid that me and gators have this exchange.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metralo 04/08/18 8:35:18 PM #60:	usual suspects being racist as fuck itt nothing new --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg <cite>metralo posted [p:899300818] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote>usual suspects being racist as fuck itt nothing new</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 04/08/18 8:47:00 PM #61:	shockthemonkey posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... Shuto-uke posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... All this has been debunked. Talk is cheap. Show me where they got debunked. How about you actually back up each of your claims with sources before demanding others debunk them with sources? "Claims that are made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens If youre going to say theyve been debunked then actually debunk them dude "Claims that are made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens I provided exactly as much evidence as you did when I said they were all debunked. Either prove your list is credible or admit you're talking out of your ass. I know you won't provide evidence though, because I already know they were debunked. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:899301637] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>All this has been debunked.</quote> Talk is cheap. Show me where they got debunked.</quote> How about you actually back up each of your claims with sources before demanding others debunk them with sources? "Claims that are made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens</quote> If youre going to say theyve been debunked then actually debunk them dude</quote> "Claims that are made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens I provided exactly as much evidence as you did when I said they were all debunked. Either prove your list is credible or admit you're talking out of your ass. I know you won't provide evidence though, because I already know they were debunked.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 04/08/18 9:06:55 PM #63:	shockthemonkey posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... shockthemonkey posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... Shuto-uke posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... All this has been debunked. Talk is cheap. Show me where they got debunked. How about you actually back up each of your claims with sources before demanding others debunk them with sources? "Claims that are made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens If youre going to say theyve been debunked then actually debunk them dude "Claims that are made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens I provided exactly as much evidence as you did when I said they were all debunked. Either prove your list is credible or admit you're talking out of your ass. I know you won't provide evidence though, because I already know they were debunked. Things are cited in the link I provided, so you saying nu uh doesnt mean a ton. All this has been debunked. If you actually look into these stories there's either no corroborating accounts or referencing one guy who claims to have worked for him, which would be really weird since all these things should have multiple employees saying the same thing. Which they don't. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:899303121] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>All this has been debunked.</quote> Talk is cheap. Show me where they got debunked.</quote> How about you actually back up each of your claims with sources before demanding others debunk them with sources? "Claims that are made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens</quote> If youre going to say theyve been debunked then actually debunk them dude</quote> "Claims that are made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens I provided exactly as much evidence as you did when I said they were all debunked. Either prove your list is credible or admit you're talking out of your ass. I know you won't provide evidence though, because I already know they were debunked.</quote> Things are cited in the link I provided, so you saying nu uh doesnt mean a ton.</quote> <quote>All this has been debunked. If you actually look into these stories there's either no corroborating accounts or referencing one guy who claims to have worked for him, which would be really weird since all these things should have multiple employees saying the same thing. Which they don't.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 04/08/18 9:10:18 PM #65:	shockthemonkey posted... Either debunk them or dont, but dont claim they were debunked without proving it. The very first item on the list leads to the Inquirer homepage with no supporting article and is referencing a memoir written by one of Trump's disgruntled ex-employees and is corroborated by no one else. The entire list is like that. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:899303337] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Either debunk them or dont, but dont claim they were debunked without proving it.</quote> The very first item on the list leads to the Inquirer homepage with no supporting article and is referencing a memoir written by one of Trump's disgruntled ex-employees and is corroborated by no one else. The entire list is like that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 04/08/18 9:14:26 PM #67:	shockthemonkey posted... Guess the links have gone down recently, but youre still not doing anything to demonstrate how its been debunked. The broken link isn't why I call it debunked. I'm helping you guys out by naming the thing they tried to link to, and explaining why it's bogus. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:899303650] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Guess the links have gone down recently, but youre still not doing anything to demonstrate how its been debunked.</quote> The broken link isn't why I call it debunked. I'm helping you guys out by naming the thing they tried to link to, and explaining why it's bogus.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 04/08/18 9:17:10 PM #69:	shockthemonkey posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... shockthemonkey posted... Guess the links have gone down recently, but youre still not doing anything to demonstrate how its been debunked. The broken link isn't why I call it debunked. I'm helping you guys out by naming the thing they tried to link to, and explaining why it's bogus. You should be able to prove your claims. You want me to prove that no one except that one biased dude said that Trump said something racist about his employees? I don't think you know how evidence works. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:899303863] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Guess the links have gone down recently, but youre still not doing anything to demonstrate how its been debunked.</quote> The broken link isn't why I call it debunked. I'm helping you guys out by naming the thing they tried to link to, and explaining why it's bogus.</quote> You should be able to prove your claims.</quote> You want me to prove that no one except that one biased dude said that Trump said something racist about his employees? I don't think you know how evidence works.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 04/08/18 9:20:38 PM #71:	shockthemonkey posted... Sounds pretty easy to prove when you put it like that, are you going to do it or just b** all night? It's actually not possible to prove a negative. Watch: prove there's no invisible unicorn in the Amazon Rainforest. Find any source not referencing that guy that corroborates his story and then you'll have something. Until then, all you have is a list of he-said she-said. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:899304129] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Sounds pretty easy to prove when you put it like that, are you going to do it or just b** all night?</quote> It's actually not possible to prove a negative. Watch: prove there's no invisible unicorn in the Amazon Rainforest. Find any source not referencing that guy that corroborates his story and then you'll have something. Until then, all you have is a list of he-said she-said.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 04/08/18 9:35:23 PM #73:	Jesus fucking Christ, stop wasting time with Mal_Fet's apologetics. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:899305313] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote>Jesus fucking Christ, stop wasting time with Mal_Fet's apologetics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 04/08/18 9:36:34 PM #74:	shockthemonkey posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... shockthemonkey posted... Sounds pretty easy to prove when you put it like that, are you going to do it or just b** all night? It's actually not possible to prove a negative. Watch: prove there's no invisible unicorn in the Amazon Rainforest. Find any source not referencing that guy that corroborates his story and then you'll have something. Until then, all you have is a list of he-said she-said. If youre saying its all one dude making every allegation then you should be able to prove it No I'm saying every allegation is backed up with that same kind of weak evidence. I used the very first item on the list to illustrate to you how low the bar for evidence is for that whole list. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:899305420] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Sounds pretty easy to prove when you put it like that, are you going to do it or just b** all night?</quote> It's actually not possible to prove a negative. Watch: prove there's no invisible unicorn in the Amazon Rainforest. Find any source not referencing that guy that corroborates his story and then you'll have something. Until then, all you have is a list of he-said she-said.</quote> If youre saying its all one dude making every allegation then you should be able to prove it</quote> No I'm saying every allegation is backed up with that same kind of weak evidence. I used the very first item on the list to illustrate to you how low the bar for evidence is for that whole list.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 04/08/18 9:38:19 PM #76:	shockthemonkey posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... shockthemonkey posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... shockthemonkey posted... Sounds pretty easy to prove when you put it like that, are you going to do it or just b** all night? It's actually not possible to prove a negative. Watch: prove there's no invisible unicorn in the Amazon Rainforest. Find any source not referencing that guy that corroborates his story and then you'll have something. Until then, all you have is a list of he-said she-said. If youre saying its all one dude making every allegation then you should be able to prove it No I'm saying every allegation is backed up with that same kind of weak evidence. I used the very first item on the list to illustrate to you how low the bar for evidence is for that whole list. So you cant debunk it but I cant prove it I can easily debunk them. Pick one item from that list which you believe has the best supporting evidence. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:899305554] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Sounds pretty easy to prove when you put it like that, are you going to do it or just b** all night?</quote> It's actually not possible to prove a negative. Watch: prove there's no invisible unicorn in the Amazon Rainforest. Find any source not referencing that guy that corroborates his story and then you'll have something. Until then, all you have is a list of he-said she-said.</quote> If youre saying its all one dude making every allegation then you should be able to prove it</quote> No I'm saying every allegation is backed up with that same kind of weak evidence. I used the very first item on the list to illustrate to you how low the bar for evidence is for that whole list.</quote> So you cant debunk it but I cant prove it</quote> I can easily debunk them. Pick one item from that list which you believe has the best supporting evidence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 04/08/18 9:41:53 PM #78:	shockthemonkey posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... shockthemonkey posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... shockthemonkey posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... shockthemonkey posted... Sounds pretty easy to prove when you put it like that, are you going to do it or just b**** all night? It's actually not possible to prove a negative. Watch: prove there's no invisible unicorn in the Amazon Rainforest. Find any source not referencing that guy that corroborates his story and then you'll have something. Until then, all you have is a list of he-said she-said. If youre saying its all one dude making every allegation then you should be able to prove it No I'm saying every allegation is backed up with that same kind of weak evidence. I used the very first item on the list to illustrate to you how low the bar for evidence is for that whole list. So you cant debunk it but I cant prove it Pick one item from that list which you believe has the best supporting evidence. Him being sued twice for housing discrimination and him continuing to call for the death penalty of black teens who were exonerated seem pretty damning, whats your excuse for that? Being sued for housing discrimination is not evidence of racism (especially when he himself wasn't the one approving permits), nor is calling for the death penalty for people who admitted to committing gangrape. Anything else? --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:899305845] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Sounds pretty easy to prove when you put it like that, are you going to do it or just b**** all night?</quote> It's actually not possible to prove a negative. Watch: prove there's no invisible unicorn in the Amazon Rainforest. Find any source not referencing that guy that corroborates his story and then you'll have something. Until then, all you have is a list of he-said she-said.</quote> If youre saying its all one dude making every allegation then you should be able to prove it</quote> No I'm saying every allegation is backed up with that same kind of weak evidence. I used the very first item on the list to illustrate to you how low the bar for evidence is for that whole list.</quote> So you cant debunk it but I cant prove it</quote> Pick one item from that list which you believe has the best supporting evidence.</quote> Him being sued twice for housing discrimination and him continuing to call for the death penalty of black teens who were exonerated seem pretty damning, whats your excuse for that?</quote> Being sued for housing discrimination is not evidence of racism (especially when he himself wasn't the one approving permits), nor is calling for the death penalty for people who admitted to committing gangrape. Anything else?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 04/08/18 9:44:39 PM #80:	Kineth posted... Jesus fucking Christ, stop wasting time with Mal_Fet's apologetics. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:899306043] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>Jesus fucking Christ, stop wasting time with Mal_Fet's apologetics.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImTheMacheteGuy 04/08/18 9:45:40 PM #82:	Sephiroth1288 posted... shockthemonkey posted... Sounds pretty easy to prove when you put it like that, are you going to do it or just b** all night? It's actually not possible to prove a negative. Watch: prove there's no invisible unicorn in the Amazon Rainforest. Find any source not referencing that guy that corroborates his story and then you'll have something. Until then, all you have is a list of he-said she-said. Why do you let gamefaqs censor posts? Do you not believe in the first amendment? --- "I can i i everything else," Bob reportedly said. Alice replied: "Balls have zero to me to me to me..." (Facebook AIs talking to each other) <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:899306137] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Sounds pretty easy to prove when you put it like that, are you going to do it or just b** all night?</quote> It's actually not possible to prove a negative. Watch: prove there's no invisible unicorn in the Amazon Rainforest. Find any source not referencing that guy that corroborates his story and then you'll have something. Until then, all you have is a list of he-said she-said.</quote> Why do you let gamefaqs censor posts? Do you not believe in the first amendment?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 04/08/18 9:46:49 PM #83:	shockthemonkey posted... Losing a housing discrimination case twice and constantly assuming that black people are guilty and violent dont paint a nice picture. I don't think race matters in a case of brutal gangrape...that's pretty regressive thinking right there. I mean, the Clinton Foundation essentially robbed Haiti of millions of dollars. Haiti is full of black people, ergo Bill and Hillary Clinton are both horrible racists. Does that logic follow? And once again, Trump himself isn't looking through rent applications. That's what landlords do. Maybe some of his landlords were racist, but that doesn't by proxy make Trump racist. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:899306225] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Losing a housing discrimination case twice and constantly assuming that black people are guilty and violent dont paint a nice picture.</quote> I don't think race matters in a case of brutal gangrape...that's pretty regressive thinking right there. I mean, the Clinton Foundation essentially robbed Haiti of millions of dollars. Haiti is full of black people, ergo Bill and Hillary Clinton are both horrible racists. Does that logic follow? And once again, Trump himself isn't looking through rent applications. That's what landlords do. Maybe some of his landlords were racist, but that doesn't by proxy make Trump racist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 04/08/18 9:51:29 PM #85:	shockthemonkey posted... Dont deflect to the Clintons. Why does Trump think that black teens are guilty after they were exonerated? Probably because they admitted to doing it. shockthemonkey posted... Why do companies under his control have a long history of discrimination? Please. Wal-Mart has had more discrimination suits against them than Trump ever did. But I guess Wal-Mart is racist too. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:899306534] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Dont deflect to the Clintons. Why does Trump think that black teens are guilty after they were exonerated? </quote> Probably because they admitted to doing it. <cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Why do companies under his control have a long history of discrimination?</quote> Please. Wal-Mart has had more discrimination suits against them than Trump ever did. But I guess Wal-Mart is racist too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImTheMacheteGuy 04/08/18 9:53:37 PM #87:	Sephiroth1288 posted... shockthemonkey posted... Dont deflect to the Clintons. Why does Trump think that black teens are guilty after they were exonerated? Probably because they admitted to doing it. shockthemonkey posted... Why do companies under his control have a long history of discrimination? Please. Wal-Mart has had more discrimination suits against them than Trump ever did. But I guess Wal-Mart is racist too. "Don't deflect to the Clintons" >Deflects to Wal-Mart instead --- "I can i i everything else," Bob reportedly said. Alice replied: "Balls have zero to me to me to me..." (Facebook AIs talking to each other) <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:899306693] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Dont deflect to the Clintons. Why does Trump think that black teens are guilty after they were exonerated? </quote> Probably because they admitted to doing it. <cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Why do companies under his control have a long history of discrimination?</quote> Please. Wal-Mart has had more discrimination suits against them than Trump ever did. But I guess Wal-Mart is racist too.</quote> "Don't deflect to the Clintons" >Deflects to Wal-Mart instead</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 04/08/18 9:53:50 PM #88:	shockthemonkey posted... Oh geez, Mal is blatantly lying again About what --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:899306709] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Oh geez, Mal is blatantly lying again</quote> About what</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 04/08/18 9:54:38 PM #89:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... shockthemonkey posted... Dont deflect to the Clintons. Why does Trump think that black teens are guilty after they were exonerated? Probably because they admitted to doing it. shockthemonkey posted... Why do companies under his control have a long history of discrimination? Please. Wal-Mart has had more discrimination suits against them than Trump ever did. But I guess Wal-Mart is racist too. "Don't deflect to the Clintons" >Deflects to Wal-Mart instead I will bring up whatever the hell I want in order to demonstrate how flawed your logic is. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:899306777] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Dont deflect to the Clintons. Why does Trump think that black teens are guilty after they were exonerated? </quote> Probably because they admitted to doing it. <cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Why do companies under his control have a long history of discrimination?</quote> Please. Wal-Mart has had more discrimination suits against them than Trump ever did. But I guess Wal-Mart is racist too.</quote> "Don't deflect to the Clintons" >Deflects to Wal-Mart instead</quote> I will bring up whatever the hell I want in order to demonstrate how flawed your logic is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 04/08/18 9:59:25 PM #91:	shockthemonkey posted... The kids admitting to it. The were coerced into pleading guilty. Not nearly the same. And calling for their death after theyre exonerated, whats your excuse for that? The idea that Trump only said that because the guys happened to be black is what you're failing to explain. You're applying a motive without any evidence.I'm giving you a far more likely motivation that what you've given. shockthemonkey posted... You can deflect but youre not doing anything to prove your point. Just deflecting. I brought up the Clintons to show how your logic leads to false conclusions about them. I also brought up Wal-Mart to illustrate how your bar for a "long history" of discrimination is laughable. 2 cases for a big company is not a long history by any stretch. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:899307146] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>The kids admitting to it. The were coerced into pleading guilty. Not nearly the same. And calling for their death after theyre exonerated, whats your excuse for that?</quote> The idea that Trump only said that because the guys happened to be black is what you're failing to explain. You're applying a motive without any evidence.I'm giving you a far more likely motivation that what you've given. <cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>You can deflect but youre not doing anything to prove your point. Just deflecting.</quote> I brought up the Clintons to show how your logic leads to false conclusions about them. I also brought up Wal-Mart to illustrate how your bar for a "long history" of discrimination is laughable. 2 cases for a big company is not a long history by any stretch.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 04/08/18 9:59:50 PM #92:	Sephiroth1288 posted... Sounds pretty easy to prove when you put it like that, are you going to do it or just b**** all night? It's actually not possible to prove a negative. Watch: prove there's no invisible unicorn in the Amazon Rainforest. Being sued for housing discrimination is not evidence of racism (especially when he himself wasn't the one approving permits), nor is calling for the death penalty for people who admitted to committing gangrape. Anything else? did not actually commit gang rape. Can you provide some statistics for death sentences among those who pleaded guilty as opposed to those who were convicted after not guilty pleas? I'm curious. (apologies for quote edit. It's a messy process after the fact) --- "I can i i everything else," Bob reportedly said. Alice replied: "Balls have zero to me to me to me..." (Facebook AIs talking to each other) <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:899307172] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote> <quote>Sounds pretty easy to prove when you put it like that, are you going to do it or just b**** all night?</quote> It's actually not possible to prove a negative. Watch: prove there's no invisible unicorn in the Amazon Rainforest. Being sued for housing discrimination is not evidence of racism (especially when he himself wasn't the one approving permits), nor is calling for the death penalty for people who admitted to committing gangrape. Anything else?</quote> did not actually commit gang rape. Can you provide some statistics for death sentences among those who pleaded guilty as opposed to those who were convicted after not guilty pleas? I'm curious. (apologies for quote edit. It's a messy process after the fact)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 04/08/18 10:01:10 PM #93:	This topic was better when it wasn't enabling Mal_Fet's shitshow and was actually discussing the topic title. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:899307275] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote>This topic was better when it wasn't enabling Mal_Fet's shitshow and was actually discussing the topic title.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 04/08/18 10:01:20 PM #94:	Sephiroth1288 posted... shockthemonkey posted... The kids admitting to it. The were coerced into pleading guilty. Not nearly the same. And calling for their death after theyre exonerated, whats your excuse for that? The idea that Trump only said that because the guys happened to be black is what you're failing to explain. You're applying a motive without any evidence. So it's totally not psychopath behavior to call for the death penalty in that situation so long as race is plausibly deniable as a motive for the death penalty cries? --- "I can i i everything else," Bob reportedly said. Alice replied: "Balls have zero to me to me to me..." (Facebook AIs talking to each other) <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:899307286] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>The kids admitting to it. The were coerced into pleading guilty. Not nearly the same. And calling for their death after theyre exonerated, whats your excuse for that?</quote> The idea that Trump only said that because the guys happened to be black is what you're failing to explain. You're applying a motive without any evidence.</quote> So it's totally not psychopath behavior to call for the death penalty in that situation so long as race is plausibly deniable as a motive for the death penalty cries?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 04/08/18 10:03:02 PM #95:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... shockthemonkey posted... The kids admitting to it. The were coerced into pleading guilty. Not nearly the same. And calling for their death after theyre exonerated, whats your excuse for that? The idea that Trump only said that because the guys happened to be black is what you're failing to explain. You're applying a motive without any evidence. So it's totally not psychopath behavior to call for the death penalty in that situation so long as race is plausibly deniable as a motive for the death penalty cries? It's not merely plausibly deniable, it's just regular deniable. Can you find another scenario of a big media story in New York City where white kids were accused of gangrape then confessed to it where Trump did not call for their death? --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:899307397] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>The kids admitting to it. The were coerced into pleading guilty. Not nearly the same. And calling for their death after theyre exonerated, whats your excuse for that?</quote> The idea that Trump only said that because the guys happened to be black is what you're failing to explain. You're applying a motive without any evidence.</quote> So it's totally not psychopath behavior to call for the death penalty in that situation so long as race is plausibly deniable as a motive for the death penalty cries?</quote> It's not merely plausibly deniable, it's just regular deniable. Can you find another scenario of a big media story in New York City where white kids were accused of gangrape then confessed to it where Trump did not call for their death?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 04/08/18 10:04:28 PM #97:	shockthemonkey posted... He cant defend the Trump discrimination charges so he keeps deflecting and he thinks no one notices. "The person he said a bad thing to happened to be black, therefore racism." That's literally the logic you need to apply in order to "prove" Trump is a racist. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:899307502] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>He cant defend the Trump discrimination charges so he keeps deflecting and he thinks no one notices.</quote> "The person he said a bad thing to happened to be black, therefore racism." That's literally the logic you need to apply in order to "prove" Trump is a racist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 04/08/18 10:08:52 PM #100:	shockthemonkey posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... shockthemonkey posted... He cant defend the Trump discrimination charges so he keeps deflecting and he thinks no one notices. "The person he said a bad thing to happened to be black, therefore racism." That's literally the logic you need to apply in order to "prove" Trump is a racist. Holy shit, do you think thats how discrimination charges happen? That was regarding the people charged with gangrape, not the discrimination suits. Try to keep up, bro. In any case, you still haven't explained how Trump's landlords being discriminatory in who they approve applications of means Trump is also racist. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:899307771] in Why do so ... [t:76491851]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>He cant defend the Trump discrimination charges so he keeps deflecting and he thinks no one notices.</quote> "The person he said a bad thing to happened to be black, therefore racism." That's literally the logic you need to apply in order to "prove" Trump is a racist.</quote> Holy shit, do you think thats how discrimination charges happen?</quote> That was regarding the people charged with gangrape, not the discrimination suits. Try to keep up, bro. In any case, you still haven't explained how Trump's landlords being discriminatory in who they approve applications of means Trump is also racist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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