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Doom_Art
04/05/18 8:12:00 AM
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these people control the majority of state legislatures, 34/50 governor houses, a majority in the senate, a majority in the house, the presidency, and a majority on the supreme court

so why exactly do i have to hear about "obstructionist Dems" and the "deep state" constantly
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Genocet69
04/05/18 8:13:45 AM
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Because they're spent there 8 years out of power doing nothing but bitching and crying, so when they finally did get power they had no idea how to actually govern. 3/4 of congressional Republicans never served under a Republican president before Trump
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0AbsoluteZero0
04/05/18 8:16:33 AM
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Many of them have a very strong persecution complex. Its the straight white Christians who really have it hardest in America, after all.
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
04/05/18 9:12:20 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
these people control the majority of state legislatures, 34/50 governor houses, a majority in the senate, a majority in the house, the presidency, and a majority on the supreme court

so why exactly do i have to hear about "obstructionist Dems" and the "deep state" constantly


Well wasn't everyone absolutely sure democrats were going to win the presidency?

They didn't. Hence, underdog.
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Darkman124
04/05/18 9:13:23 AM
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because underdog rhetoric is good for turning out the base
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Doom_Art
04/05/18 9:14:17 AM
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...
Well wasn't everyone absolutely sure democrats were going to win the presidency?

yeah wasn't that like two years ago?

WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...
They didn't. Hence, underdog.

i don't think that works out how you imagine it.

as i said

these people control the majority of state legislatures, 34/50 governor houses, a majority in the senate, a majority in the house, the presidency, and a majority on the supreme court

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foreveraIone
04/05/18 9:15:14 AM
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Christians are the most persecuted group though. look at all the mean things liberals say about us.
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Caution999
04/05/18 9:18:08 AM
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Uh...because the mainstream media is completely against the right? Besides Fox News, name a news station that is for the conservative. Name a late night show host who's show doesn't revolve around bashing Trump? Name a TV show that is positive towards Trump (besides the 3 episodes of Roseanne in March/April of this year)?
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Doom_Art
04/05/18 9:19:17 AM
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Caution999 posted...
Besides Fox News, name a news station that is for the conservative.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_Broadcast_Group#Political_views
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creativerealms
04/05/18 9:21:22 AM
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It's no surprise that the religious right is in bed with the Republican party. They too have this superiority inferiority complex that makes them believe that even if they are the majority they are still the underdog.
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Genocet69
04/05/18 9:21:43 AM
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Caution999 posted...
Uh...because the mainstream media is completely against the right? Besides Fox News, name a news station that is for the conservative. Name a late night show host who's show doesn't revolve around bashing Trump? Name a TV show that is positive towards Trump (besides the 3 episodes of Roseanne in March/April of this year)?

Fox News is far more right wing biased than CNN and MSNBC are left biased.
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Caution999
04/05/18 9:21:48 AM
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Fair enough though I'm not sure which stations that company encompasses. I know there's a lot of radio stations that cater to the right, for sure.
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gatorsPENSbucs
04/05/18 9:21:51 AM
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Genocet69 posted...
Because they're spent there 8 years out of power doing nothing but bitching and crying

Lol. You all have a very selective memory.
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foreveraIone
04/05/18 9:22:33 AM
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Genocet69 posted...
Caution999 posted...
Uh...because the mainstream media is completely against the right? Besides Fox News, name a news station that is for the conservative. Name a late night show host who's show doesn't revolve around bashing Trump? Name a TV show that is positive towards Trump (besides the 3 episodes of Roseanne in March/April of this year)?

Fox News is far more right wing biased than CNN and MSNBC are left biased.

but media bias fact check
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Genocet69
04/05/18 9:22:42 AM
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Caution999 posted...
Fair enough though I'm not sure which stations that company encompasses. I know there's a lot of radio stations that cater to the right, for sure.

They own the majority of local news outlets in America
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P4wn4g3
04/05/18 9:23:17 AM
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Caution999 posted...
Besides Fox News, name a news station that is for the conservative.

Everything except PBS unfortunately.
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Doom_Art
04/05/18 9:23:30 AM
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Caution999 posted...
I'm not sure which stations that company encompasses

It's a lot

gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Lol. You all have a very selective memory.

I mean that very accurately describes the GOP/Tea Party from 2008-2016
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0AbsoluteZero0
04/05/18 9:24:18 AM
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Caution999 posted...
Name a late night show host who's show doesn't revolve around bashing Trump? Name a TV show that is positive towards Trump (besides the 3 episodes of Roseanne in March/April of this year)?

Have you ever stopped to consider that if your Dear Leader didnt constantly act like a petty, narrow-minded manchild, he might get more positive coverage? Hes an absolute disgrace to his office, and hes earned all the hate he gets.
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creativerealms
04/05/18 9:24:49 AM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Genocet69 posted...
Because they're spent there 8 years out of power doing nothing but bitching and crying

Lol. You all have a very selective memory.

Yeah for half of those eight years they controlled the house and Senate and used that power to make Obama's job much harder.
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creativerealms
04/05/18 9:26:39 AM
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Caution999 posted...
Uh...because the mainstream media is completely against the right? Besides Fox News, name a news station that is for the conservative. Name a late night show host who's show doesn't revolve around bashing Trump? Name a TV show that is positive towards Trump (besides the 3 episodes of Roseanne in March/April of this year)?

Get those are the underdogs fighting back as they are not the ones with power Trump and the republicans are.
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DevsBro
04/05/18 9:26:56 AM
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In the end, Conservatives have to lose on most issues.
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Caution999
04/05/18 9:27:35 AM
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Genocet69 posted...
Caution999 posted...
Uh...because the mainstream media is completely against the right? Besides Fox News, name a news station that is for the conservative. Name a late night show host who's show doesn't revolve around bashing Trump? Name a TV show that is positive towards Trump (besides the 3 episodes of Roseanne in March/April of this year)?

Fox News is far more right wing biased than CNN and MSNBC are left biased.


Fox News has been a laughing stock since like what? 2002? MSNBC has certainly fell off during the last couple years. I mean, MSNBC was already left leaning, but they've gotten worse. CNN seems to focus on click bait stuff at times for more viewers. Both aren't 100% fake news, but the way they'll exaggerate a truth or race bait....is just wrong. It just seems like everything has been exaggerated for ratings.

Who remembers CNN before 9/11? I do. It was a boring news channel, Larry King interviews Mr X or Mrs Y at night, etc etc. During the day: Boring interviews or discussions about business crap. Now it's stooping low for ratings. Back when "breaking news" actually meant breaking news?
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Antifar
04/05/18 9:29:36 AM
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Caution999 posted...
Uh...because the mainstream media is completely against the right? Besides Fox News, name a news station that is for the conservative.

You mean besides the most-watched cable news outlet?
Fox is mainstream. So are the Wall Street Journal and Sean Hannity's radio show. The only definition of mainstream that would exclude them is the one cleverly set up by Fox themselves.
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Caution999
04/05/18 9:31:03 AM
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I don't disagree that Fox is mainstream. Or Hannity - or any national radio show.
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Doom_Art
04/05/18 9:31:43 AM
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Caution999 posted...
I don't disagree that Fox is mainstream. Or Hannity - or any national radio show.

then what are you going on about

conservative Fox News is the most watched news network, conservative Sinclair owns the majority of local news stations in the country, most radio networks slant conservative
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Antifar
04/05/18 9:32:05 AM
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Anyways, to TC's question
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/1995/06/22/ur-fascism/
8. The followers must feel humiliated by the ostentatious wealth and force of their enemies. When I was a boy I was taught to think of Englishmen as the five-meal people. They ate more frequently than the poor but sober Italians. Jews are rich and help each other through a secret web of mutual assistance. However, the followers must be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.

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Antifar
04/05/18 9:32:44 AM
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Caution999 posted...
I don't disagree that Fox is mainstream. Or Hannity - or any national radio show.

Then surely you must agree that mainstream media is not, in fact, "completely against the right."
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Caution999
04/05/18 9:32:55 AM
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There are more left leaning stations, for sure. It's more socially acceptable to be left leaning than it is to be right leaning. That's all.
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foreveraIone
04/05/18 9:33:17 AM
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Antifar posted...
Anyways, to TC's question
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/1995/06/22/ur-fascism/
8. The followers must feel humiliated by the ostentatious wealth and force of their enemies. When I was a boy I was taught to think of Englishmen as the five-meal people. They ate more frequently than the poor but sober Italians. Jews are rich and help each other through a secret web of mutual assistance. However, the followers must be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.

so you think they are actual fascists?
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Antifar
04/05/18 9:34:44 AM
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foreveraIone posted...
Antifar posted...
Anyways, to TC's question
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/1995/06/22/ur-fascism/
8. The followers must feel humiliated by the ostentatious wealth and force of their enemies. When I was a boy I was taught to think of Englishmen as the five-meal people. They ate more frequently than the poor but sober Italians. Jews are rich and help each other through a secret web of mutual assistance. However, the followers must be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.

so you think they are actual fascists?

No, but I think they share this rhetorical similarity.
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Doom_Art
04/05/18 9:35:26 AM
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@Caution999 posted...
There are more left leaning stations, for sure. It's more socially acceptable to be left leaning than it is to be right leaning. That's all.

What are you basing that on?

Everything ITT disagrees with your assertion
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DevsBro
04/05/18 9:39:48 AM
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Antifar posted...
Caution999 posted...
I don't disagree that Fox is mainstream. Or Hannity - or any national radio show.

Then surely you must agree that mainstream media is not, in fact, "completely against the right."

"Ha I disproved the literal letter of what you said, therefore I win."
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foreveraIone
04/05/18 9:41:22 AM
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Antifar
04/05/18 9:41:23 AM
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DevsBro posted...
Antifar posted...
Caution999 posted...
I don't disagree that Fox is mainstream. Or Hannity - or any national radio show.

Then surely you must agree that mainstream media is not, in fact, "completely against the right."

"Ha I disproved the literal letter of what you said, therefore I win."

We should strive towards accuracy in our words so as to be better understood by one another.
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Caution999
04/05/18 9:50:08 AM
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I'm basing it off what I've seen with my own two eyes. Perhaps you see it differently, and that's fine ....I guess. I just disagree.

The "right" is practically synonymous with racism, bigotry, etc etc at this point. That's just the perception I get from daily life and on here. Maybe I'm just pessimistic, but that's how I certainly feel.
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EverDownward
04/05/18 9:52:45 AM
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The left rules the social and cultural hemispheres
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EverDownward
04/05/18 9:54:56 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Everything ITT disagrees with your assertion

I'd make the argument that being conservative and/or republican in a public space in the current age is considered more of a rebellious and independent disposition, thus the large attraction here on CE.
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voldothegr8
04/05/18 9:56:37 AM
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When the left controls the vast majority of the MSM it isn't hard to see why.
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P4wn4g3
04/05/18 10:18:23 AM
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Caution999 posted...
There are more left leaning stations, for sure. It's more socially acceptable to be left leaning than it is to be right leaning. That's all.

This isn't even true. You seem to be unaware of how right leaning America is. Your point about late night comedians is more accurate at least.
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Doom_Art
04/05/18 12:18:53 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
the left controls the vast majority of the MSM

That's been disproved already please try to keep up
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r4X0r
04/05/18 12:21:50 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
the left controls the vast majority of the MSM

That's been disproved already please try to keep up


Disproved by who, and when? During the 2016 election all sorts of media outlets got caught colluding with the Clinton campaign. Hell, CNN rigged a debate for her.
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voldothegr8
04/05/18 12:22:33 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
the left controls the vast majority of the MSM

That's been disproved already please try to keep up

It has been disproved because of the existence of Fox news? LOL

Learn what vast majority means
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creativerealms
04/05/18 12:30:55 PM
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Not taking a side =/= msm being controlled by the left.
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creativerealms
04/05/18 12:31:34 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
r4X0r posted...
Doom_Art posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
the left controls the vast majority of the MSM

That's been disproved already please try to keep up


Disproved by who, and when? During the 2016 election all sorts of media outlets got caught colluding with the Clinton campaign. Hell, CNN rigged a debate for her.

You mean the debate between Clinton and Sanders? Which means Clinton was the much farther right candidate?

Yes that certainly shows how left leaning CNN is.

Shhhh is them dream.
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prince_leo
04/05/18 12:32:00 PM
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Caution999 posted...
The "right" is practically synonymous with racism, bigotry, etc etc at this point. That's just the perception I get from daily life and on here. Maybe I'm just pessimistic, but that's how I certainly feel.

this means that their propaganda has been effective against you

voldothegr8 posted...
It has been disproved because of the existence of Fox news? LOL

I assume he is referring to sinclair
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