Current Events > Is it hypocritical to punish two people differently for identical moderations?

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it should only (supposedly) differ based on moderation history
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Moderation history matters.
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Well I'm pretty sure individual moderators are involved, and who the individuals are, and what the posting history of that person is.

However, this is probably a, "Wahh, they are punishing me unfairly" so I'll just have to say; they don't have to publish anything they don't want to, you agreed to it when you signed up, it's a free service so take your business elsewhere or stop bothering those of us who seem to have very little problem following the rules around here.

so basically, here's the context

5AM, April 1st. Nameless user makes topic about "the best april fools joke" on CE. Said topic contains a tinyURL that changes the gamefaqs color scheme to an obnoxious bright pink color scheme. I fall for it get a lol out of it, and fix it.

7:30PM, April 1st. I make the identical topic, but on PotD.

I get warned. Much to my expectation, I went over to CE, and the original topic was still up.

I point this out in my moderation dispute. Eventually, the original topic disappears, but, funny, the user was still at his normal user status. No warn.

What a joke. I figure, hey, it's been up for twelve hours, I guess it's not moddable, considering the high volume of responses in the original topic, someone would've reported it, so I guess it was fine.
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JustMyOpinion posted...

Fair, next.

You need to stop this obsession with me.
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Welcome to gamefaqs

Cue the mod slobberers
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History matters, but all things equal the moderations should be the same.
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should first time offenders of a crime get a lesser sentence than repeat offenders?

Fair. Moderation history matters
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Fam_Fam posted...

should first time offenders of a crime get a lesser sentence than repeat offenders?

Yes.
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Of course it's hypocritical, but here's a friendly suggestion, never tell a moderator "But THIS person said the same thing and THEY didn't get modded!" because it will make the process go that much worse for you.
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JustMyOpinion posted...

Mufflnz0rz posted...

JustMyOpinion posted...

Fair, next.

You need to stop this obsession with me.

You need to stop being obsessed with every response I make.

TIL: Simply responding to a post in my own topic = an obsession

Please stop obsessing over me. It was cute when there was something to talk about, but you killed the fun. The obsession is no longer adorable.

r4X0r posted...

Of course it's hypocritical, but here's a friendly suggestion, never tell a moderator "But THIS person said the same thing and THEY didn't get modded!" because it will make the process go that much worse for you.

yeah i tried to swerve from that by going the whole "the topic was up for literally over twelve hours with high visibility and responses and was never deleted so i figured it was fine" route

doubt it changes anything
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r4X0r posted...

Of course it's hypocritical, but here's a friendly suggestion, never tell a moderator "But THIS person said the same thing and THEY didn't get modded!" because it will make the process go that much worse for you.

Ive done that. Although mine didnt get overturned the other post was deleted after the moderator reviewed my contest.
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jmo and muffin are ce's best married couple tbqh

Someone that is frequently told not to break the board's rules should have a harsher punishment than someone that hardly ever breaks them.
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Paragon21XX posted...

Someone that is frequently told not to break the board's rules should have a harsher punishment than someone that hardly ever breaks them.

I think there's a dangerous precedent with that though. Take this case for example. I have literally never posted a tinyURL link here, let alone one that actually has intent to mess with people. As such, I think this should be treated differently because it's something I've quite literally never done before.

I do agree that posting history should matter, but only if it's in the case of repeat offenses for the same issue. Like if someone gets NWD'd for trolling, then NKL'd for trolling, then obviously a warn makes sense if they troll again.

But encompassing the entirety of one's posting history into one umbrella just doesn't justify a harsher punishment for what is essentially a first time offense in this case. My history, for example, has one NKL for illegal activities (a copy-pasta that had a reference to a drug that I forgot to edit out), an NKL for calling someone a troll (even though all I said was that I was tagging a user as a troll, not actually calling him/her a troll), and now a warn for something I've never done before, which has been proven to not be an auto-warn because the creator of the original topic was not warned.

Like it doesn't make sense to use "repeat offender" as a blanket statement when the contents of the history aren't taken into account.
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Mufflnz0rz posted...

Paragon21XX posted...

Someone that is frequently told not to break the board's rules should have a harsher punishment than someone that hardly ever breaks them.

I think there's a dangerous precedent with that though. Take this case for example. I have literally never posted a tinyURL link here, let alone one that actually has intent to mess with people. As such, I think this should be treated differently because it's something I've quite literally never done before.

I do agree that posting history should matter, but only if it's in the case of repeat offenses for the same issue. Like if someone gets NWD'd for trolling, then NKL'd for trolling, then obviously a warn makes sense if they troll again, because they're clearly not trying to follow the rules.

But encompassing the entirety of one's posting history into one umbrella just doesn't justify a harsher punishment for what is essentially a first time offense in this case. My history, for example, has one NKL for illegal activities (a copy-pasta that had a reference to a drug that I forgot to edit out), an NKL for calling someone a troll (even though all I said was that I was tagging a user as a troll, not actually calling him/her a troll), and now a warn for something I've never done before, which has been proven to not be an auto-warn because the creator of the original topic was not warned.

Like it doesn't make sense to use "repeat offender" as a blanket statement when the contents of the history aren't taken into account.

Your first step is to take a few steps away from the keyboard.

Go outside, breathe some fresh air, and take CE a little less seriously.

Secondly, "officer, but he was speeding too!" Someone getting 'away with' something against TOS does not justify you getting away with it either. PotD is a lower volume board and the message most likely was not marked. It's not like it's these moderator's day jobs. It's a volunteer service. The fact it got taken down implies the moderation staff is at least consistent with what they view to be disruptive.

Sure, personally, I don't think it's that disruptive in the context of April Fools. That's not my call. At the end of the day, this is a dying message board with imaginary internet points for logging on and this level of obsession is an unhealthy habit.
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Soviet_Poland posted...

Moderation history matters.

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I think, overall, people just want to see more consistency to moderations and a more laid out set of rules. "That's offensive" doesn't really cut it in this day and age.
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Soviet_Poland posted...

Your first step is to take a few steps away from the keyboard.

Go outside, breathe some fresh air, and take CE a little less seriously.

I'm at work, bruv.

Soviet_Poland posted...

Secondly, "officer, but he was speeding too!" Someone getting 'away with' something against TOS does not justify you getting away with it either.

I'm aware of that. I simply figured a topic that was up for 12 hours with a high volume of responses would've been reported, and if it was a violation, it would've been deleted. It wasn't. So I figured it was fine, considering it was april fools'.

Secondly, this isn't the law enforcement system. It's a moderation system on a dying website forum. Trying to compare GameFAQs moderation to law enforcement is a great way to stop being taken seriously.

Soviet_Poland posted...

PotD is a lower volume board and the message most likely was not marked.

Again, the CE post had nearly 50 replies to it over a span of its existence, so it was obviously seen. And if it was seen, it was surely marked. And if it was a violation at that time, it would've been taken down in a reasonably timely manner, considering something like "browser hijacking" is something they take seriously.

Soviet_Poland posted...

this level of obsession is an unhealthy habit.

Again, a vast majority of my posts are done at work. Stop going straight to the "obsession" well just because I made a topic.
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JustMyOpinion posted...

Interesting how more people than just me think you're obsessed.

Interesting how you're the one who can't quit this obsession with me. I told you in the microsoft topic to please stop following me and trolling me, it's getting extremely annoying.

This is textbook trolling, and if you keep it up, I will resort to marking you.
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JustMyOpinion posted...

Noting someone thinks you're obsessed is trolling? I don't think posts that make you look bad automatically qualify as that.

No.



This is what pops up when you highlight trolling.

This is what you're doing with every post where you cry "obsessed," "meltdown," or anything similar. I've asked you to please stop trolling me. I don't want to sink to your level and resort to marking you, but if I must, then I will.
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Whether or not a topic should be removed should be the same.
The punishment you get for having a topic deleted should vary depending on your history.
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It all depends on who you are and your history. I cant mention any type of illegal drugs without getting modded and I see tons of people and a good amount of topics going up with no one getting in trouble.

Lot of hypocrisy and favoritism on this site. Just gotta learn to laugh at it.
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From the same mod?

Fam_Fam posted...

should first time offenders of a crime get a lesser sentence than repeat offenders?

Yes, though I would phrase it as the baseline being first offender and repeat offenders having a harsher sentence.
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Soviet_Poland posted...

Moderation history matters.

Not if your mod history is biased to begin with.
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