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Genocet69
04/01/18 8:37:54 AM
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If you asked me 3 years ago where I was on the political spectrum, I would have said "center-left". But seeing Trump and his insane cult inspired me to learn much more about politics and the more I learned the farther to the left I went, and now I'm as hardcore left as you can get. And I know I'm not the only person Trump and his supporters had this effect on. So thanks for that, I suppose.
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frozenshock
04/01/18 8:40:37 AM
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This are just getting more and more divided. Feels almost like a civil war atmosphere sometimes tbh
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Error1355
04/01/18 8:43:08 AM
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@frozenshock posted...
This are just getting more and more divided. Feels almost like a civil war atmosphere sometimes tbh

I think that's mostly the internet being a bit for vile than in person conversations. I've not heard anyone remotely as vile in person yet about politics on either side.

Also I would tend to agree that I called myself mostly in the middle, but after Trump was elected siding more and more with 'left' viewpoints. I still sure as shit wouldn't call myself a member of any party though.
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DepreceV2
04/01/18 8:44:40 AM
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frozenshock posted...
This are just getting more and more divided. Feels almost like a civil war atmosphere sometimes tbh


It really does. I felt neutral at first as well. I almost voted for Romney. If he would have won over Obama I would have been just fine. I don't think I'm permantly pushed to the left. I think it's just while Trump is in office. Hopefully I'll drift back neutral when Republicans get candidates that aren't complete morons like Trump
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The Admiral
04/01/18 8:44:50 AM
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At least you're admitting how easily manipulated you are.
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CanuckCowboy
04/01/18 8:44:56 AM
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Error1355 posted...

I think that's mostly the internet being a bit for vile than in person conversations. I've not heard anyone remotely as vile in person yet about politics on either side.


In person neither have I. But I've watched the news.
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Genocet69
04/01/18 8:48:30 AM
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The Admiral posted...
At least you're admitting how easily manipulated you are.

Manipulated? Don't use words if you don't know what they mean, addy. I took it upon myself to do research and learn more about politics and government. The only person that "manipulated" me was myself.
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The Admiral
04/01/18 8:50:53 AM
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Genocet69 posted...
The Admiral posted...
At least you're admitting how easily manipulated you are.

Manipulated? Don't use words if you don't know what they mean, addy. I took it upon myself to do research and learn more about politics and government. The only person that "manipulated" me was myself.


You let someone else "push you" to a more extreme political position.

No shame in admitting you were so easily manipulated, you are hardly the only one who let Trump get to them like this.
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Genocet69
04/01/18 8:51:59 AM
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The Admiral posted...
Genocet69 posted...
The Admiral posted...
At least you're admitting how easily manipulated you are.

Manipulated? Don't use words if you don't know what they mean, addy. I took it upon myself to do research and learn more about politics and government. The only person that "manipulated" me was myself.


You let someone else "push you" to a more extreme political position.

No shame in admitting you were so easily manipulated, you are hardly the only one who let Trump get to them like this.

So you're happy that your grand emperor is pushing ex-moderates to the far left?
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bloodydeath0
04/01/18 8:52:54 AM
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Opposite for me. I used to be pretty left, and now Im pretty right. People like David Hogg make me secure with my decision. Cannot stand that guy.
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Genocet69
04/01/18 8:53:45 AM
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bloodydeath0 posted...
Opposite for me. I used to be pretty left, and now Im pretty right. People like David Hogg make me secure with my decision. Cannot stand that guy.

How does it feel knowing a high school kid triggers you that badly?
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TheCyborgNinja
04/01/18 8:53:57 AM
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Elements of American conservatism annoyed me before, but now I just can't stand any of it. The far left's response to them also made me hate them too. In terms of US politics, centrists and people like them are all I can stand these days.
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DepreceV2
04/01/18 8:54:03 AM
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The Admiral posted...
Genocet69 posted...
The Admiral posted...
At least you're admitting how easily manipulated you are.

Manipulated? Don't use words if you don't know what they mean, addy. I took it upon myself to do research and learn more about politics and government. The only person that "manipulated" me was myself.


You let someone else "push you" to a more extreme political position.

No shame in admitting you were so easily manipulated, you are hardly the only one who let Trump get to them like this.


So it's manipulation by someone else when you do research and make a decision yourself? Admiral is as foolish as ever I see
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frozenshock
04/01/18 8:54:18 AM
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Error1355 posted...
@frozenshock posted...
This are just getting more and more divided. Feels almost like a civil war atmosphere sometimes tbh

I think that's mostly the internet being a bit for vile than in person conversations. I've not heard anyone remotely as vile in person yet about politics on either side.

Also I would tend to agree that I called myself mostly in the middle, but after Trump was elected siding more and more with 'left' viewpoints. I still sure as shit wouldn't call myself a member of any party though.


Yet online debate is just vicious these days. But I think it's not just our imagination when we say the divisions are getting deeper. Party affiliation is the new religion it seems:

http://www.people-press.org/2017/10/05/the-partisan-divide-on-political-values-grows-even-wider/
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Error1355
04/01/18 9:51:08 AM
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The Admiral posted...
At least you're admitting how easily manipulated you are.

You don't even try anymore dude. You've become just another drop in the bucket of political troll accounts infesting this board.
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Genocet69
04/01/18 9:52:18 AM
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Error1355 posted...
The Admiral posted...
At least you're admitting how easily manipulated you are.

You don't even try anymore dude. You've become just another drop in the bucket of political troll accounts infesting this board.

r e k t
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Genocet69
04/01/18 9:53:06 AM
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MakoReizei posted...
How far to the left? Would you share your wife with another man

What a nice roundabout way of implying I'm a cuck. Originality at its finest.
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Southernfatman
04/01/18 9:53:08 AM
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Error1355 posted...
The Admiral posted...
At least you're admitting how easily manipulated you are.

You don't even try anymore dude. You've become just another drop in the bucket of political troll accounts infesting this board.


He gets fed constantly so why should he try? He doesn't have to.
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MakoReizei
04/01/18 9:53:28 AM
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it's funny that Admiral is the troll somehow and not TC
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FairyLeviathan
04/01/18 9:53:40 AM
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No they don't, you push yourself to the left. Every liberal likes to say they're center.
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tennisdude818
04/01/18 9:56:41 AM
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Genocet69 posted...
MakoReizei posted...
How far to the left? Would you share your wife with another man

What a nice roundabout way of implying I'm a cuck. Originality at its finest.


To be fair, your steady stream of "conservatives suck" topics don't bring anything new to the table.
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Genocet69
04/01/18 9:58:05 AM
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FairyLeviathan posted...
No they don't, you push yourself to the left. Every liberal likes to say they're center.

I'm not in any way shape or form center anymore. Did you even read my post? I used to have a lot of centrist views and even a few right wing views. Now I have none and I'm as hard left as you can get because I actually took time to learn about the issues and why they matter
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The Admiral
04/01/18 10:00:48 AM
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@Error1355 posted...
The Admiral posted...
At least you're admitting how easily manipulated you are.

You don't even try anymore dude. You've become just another drop in the bucket of political troll accounts infesting this board.


Are you not aware of who the TC is or what? You're honestly saying this in a topic created by a user with dozens of banned accounts who does nothing but make political troll topics and threads bashing conservatives. He literally hits his topic limit everyday with this garbage, and you seem unaware of who is actually trolling here.
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FairyLeviathan
04/01/18 10:01:00 AM
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I used to have a lot of centrist views and even a few right wing views.


Sure, and I used to be a general in the American Revolutionary War.
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John_Galt
04/01/18 10:01:59 AM
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Error1355 posted...
The Admiral posted...
At least you're admitting how easily manipulated you are.

You don't even try anymore dude. You've become just another drop in the bucket of political troll accounts infesting this board.

In a geno topic you decided to take a pot shot at admiral?

Lol, are you serious
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creativerealms
04/01/18 10:04:01 AM
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For me Bush pushed me to the left. I actually voted for him.
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Genocet69
04/01/18 10:05:50 AM
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John_Galt posted...
Error1355 posted...
The Admiral posted...
At least you're admitting how easily manipulated you are.

You don't even try anymore dude. You've become just another drop in the bucket of political troll accounts infesting this board.

In a geno topic you decided to take a pot shot at admiral?

Lol, are you serious

Cry more please your triggered tears are dee lish
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Shadow Flare
04/01/18 10:06:30 AM
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For me, all of the liberal SJW bullshit and the media pushing that agenda (half of it is faked or fabricated to further said agenda by the way) have pushed me a little to the right.

I'm a little more Libertarian these days. More financially conservative and against the tax + spend crap that drives cities into poverty that the left as such fans of.

I try to ignore and/or discredit the media, the crazy liberals and their narratives when I have the chance..
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Irony
04/01/18 10:06:45 AM
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I thought this alt was banned
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Ben_Ruggiero
04/01/18 10:07:24 AM
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I guess I can see your point TC. I'm the same way. The left and its idiocy pushed me to the extreme far right
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The Admiral
04/01/18 10:07:56 AM
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Irony posted...
I thought this alt was banned


That was a different alt. He was banned three days ago for this exact same shit and came right back with a new account doing the same thing. He's at at least 7-8 banned accounts so far this year.
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Error1355
04/01/18 10:10:51 AM
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The Admiral posted...
You're honestly saying this in a topic created by a user with dozens of banned accounts who does nothing but make political troll topics and threads bashing conservatives

Trolling a troll doesn't make one side better than the other. I'm not talking about just this topic though. You're doing the same shit, but on the other side of the political spectrum that you hated other people doing back when you were a mod. (I also want to make clear that at no point did I see Admiral making politically biased moderation actions. Just so no one mistakes what I just said there as that.) You word posts in ways that you know will 'trigger' people who disagree with you and then act somewhat obtuse about it when you get some negative reactions. Rather than actually trying to have a discussion on things there are times where it's clear you're just looking for the blow back reaction from the other side or pats on the back from others on your side. Of course there are some people who froth at the mouth at any post you make regardless how innocent it can be, but I can't imagine anyone who sees the posts you make or topics you create and not think you are trying to get a rise out of people with them.

Anyway, just figured I'd voice that since it's something that's been bugging me for a bit. The TC involved being irrelevant to my view, nor am I trying to claim you're somehow the worst at this or something. Just a bit disappointed that this is how you've spent your time here after stepping down.

*shrugs*
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The Admiral
04/01/18 10:19:00 AM
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Error1355 posted...
Trolling a troll doesn't make one side better than the other. I'm not talking about just this topic though. You're doing the same shit, but on the other side of the political spectrum that you hated other people doing back when you were a mod.


I'm responding this way specifically because of who the TC is. This is the exact kind of account Allen said this site would be cracking down on -- serial troll who gets banned, comes right back with the same gimmick on an alt, and doesn't even attempt to hide who he is -- and you guys let him continue you on with this nonsense. If the mods aren't going to handle him properly, and the ignore list is useless when he just creates a new alt every week, I don't really want to hear anything about how trolling him back isn't any better.

When non-troll users who have different political opinions create topics here, I discuss them quite differently.
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Vertania
04/01/18 10:22:15 AM
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The DNC's corruption and the clear MSM bias pushed me to the right a little. Like, at the beginning of 2016, the last thing I wanted was for Trump to win, but by election night, I was kind of happy he did.

I went from hating Republicans and disliking Democrats to just hating both parties.
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creativerealms
04/01/18 10:27:03 AM
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Vertania posted...
The DNC's corruption and the clear MSM bias pushed me to the right a little. Like, at the beginning of 2016, the last thing I wanted was for Trump to win, but by election night, I was kind of happy he did.

I went from hating Republicans and disliking Democrats to just hating both parties.

As corrupt as the DNC is the Trump thing is showing that the GOP is even worse. As is their side of the MSM (the republican part of the news is still part of the main stream media despite their claim that they are not)
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CEs_EFG
04/01/18 10:27:13 AM
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Error1355 posted...
The Admiral posted...
At least you're admitting how easily manipulated you are.

You don't even try anymore dude. You've become just another drop in the bucket of political troll accounts infesting this board.


Wahhh all these trolls infesting my board!

Cry me a fucking river Error a lot of the boards problems are from your inability to control anything you only have yourself to blame for politics fucking up the board
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muchdran
04/01/18 10:30:02 AM
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The Admiral posted...
Error1355 posted...
Trolling a troll doesn't make one side better than the other. I'm not talking about just this topic though. You're doing the same shit, but on the other side of the political spectrum that you hated other people doing back when you were a mod.


I'm responding this way specifically because of who the TC is. This is the exact kind of account Allen said this site would be cracking down on -- serial troll who gets banned, comes right back with the same gimmick on an alt, and doesn't even attempt to hide who he is -- and you guys let him continue you on with this nonsense. If the mods aren't going to handle him properly, and the ignore list is useless when he just creates a new alt every week, I don't really want to hear anything about how trolling him back isn't any better.

When non-troll users who have different political opinions create topics here, I discuss them quite differently.

Rekt
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muchdran
04/01/18 10:30:47 AM
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Can't take error seriously, he literally calls soda, pop.
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voldothegr8
04/01/18 10:33:06 AM
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John_Galt posted...
Error1355 posted...
The Admiral posted...
At least you're admitting how easily manipulated you are.

You don't even try anymore dude. You've become just another drop in the bucket of political troll accounts infesting this board.

In a geno topic you decided to take a pot shot at admiral?

Lol, are you serious

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The Admiral
04/01/18 10:39:06 AM
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I don't want people to start bashing Error. I personally like him quite a lot, always thought he's done an outstanding job as a mod, and learned a tremendous amount from him when I was on the staff -- but he definitely has a bit of a blind spot here.

For example, even excusing that the TC is trolling and trying to get a reaction, if someone made the opposite topic to this one saying "SJWs pushed me FAR to the right that I support Trump," I don't think he would be as bothered by people responding with posts like the one I did. If anything, he'd immediately recognize the TC as the one trolling unlike the way he did with this topic.
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Vertania
04/01/18 10:42:11 AM
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creativerealms posted...
As corrupt as the DNC is the Trump thing is showing that the GOP is even worse. As is their side of the MSM (the republican part of the news is still part of the main stream media despite their claim that they are not)

All the right really has is Fox News and talk radio. Most of Hollywood, social media, and the major news networks are strongly in favor of the left.

Not sure exactly what you mean by "the Trump thing," but there has been a lot of corruption uncovered with the Dems, even after the election, that has been swept under the rug by the MSM. I'm not saying that it clears the Trump administration from any wrongdoing, but it seems like the left is overblowing that to distract from their own issues.

In any case, both the Dems and Reps love having this non-stop back-and-forth because it keeps pushing people away from the center and keeps them in power. 2016 should have been the best shot we've ever had at getting a third party to the 5% mark, but both sides of the media made sure that didn't happen.
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BillyKidd
04/01/18 10:57:58 AM
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That's a trip; I was the opposite. I went from Libertarian to Conservatarian after the insanity of the left.
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SuperShake666
04/01/18 11:04:52 AM
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Mod fight!
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Dark_Spiret
04/01/18 11:35:48 AM
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this election has brought out the worst in everyone. the right are still stupid assholes, nothing new there. the left has been driven insane and turned into insufferable pussies.

i just want off the ride.
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CEs_EFG
04/01/18 11:41:58 AM
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The Admiral posted...
I don't want people to start bashing Error. I personally like him quite a lot, always thought he's done an outstanding job as a mod, and learned a tremendous amount from him when I was on the staff -- but he definitely has a bit of a blind spot here.


I just find it funny that Error is so out of touch with the community that he defends a troll with 4 karma
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Genocet69
04/01/18 11:42:51 AM
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CEs_EFG posted...
The Admiral posted...
I don't want people to start bashing Error. I personally like him quite a lot, always thought he's done an outstanding job as a mod, and learned a tremendous amount from him when I was on the staff -- but he definitely has a bit of a blind spot here.


I just find it funny that Error is so out of touch with the community that he defends a troll with 4 karma

I'm an alt dude. My main is currently in a 7 day purg
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