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Solid Snake07 03/30/18 2:56:33 PM #101:	Its not about whay necessary or not, it's about taking rights away from law abiding Americans. Something that shouldn't be taken lightly regardless of what side you're on here --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:898773170] in Yet to hea... [t:76467393]...</cite> <quote>Its not about whay necessary or not, it's about taking rights away from law abiding Americans. Something that shouldn't be taken lightly regardless of what side you're on here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Patchwork 03/30/18 3:00:45 PM #102:	Gun violence isn't even in the top ten causes of death in the US. I'm not saying it isn't a problem. I am saying it's something that isn't epidemic level and doesn't warrant a knee-jerk gun ban reaction. You can, barring the politicians continuing to suck the NRA's dick, put in sensible legislation to strengthen background checks, disallow second-hand sales without them, and require licensure to own weapons other than hunting rifles. That way, when you start to show signs of being a psychotic fuck, there's a means to revoking your ability to get guns that gun shops readily accept and identify. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. <cite>Patchwork posted [p:898773427] in Yet to hea... [t:76467393]...</cite> <quote>Gun violence isn't even in the top ten causes of death in the US. I'm not saying it isn't a problem. I am saying it's something that isn't epidemic level and doesn't warrant a knee-jerk gun ban reaction. You can, barring the politicians continuing to suck the NRA's dick, put in sensible legislation to strengthen background checks, disallow second-hand sales without them, and require licensure to own weapons other than hunting rifles. That way, when you start to show signs of being a psychotic fuck, there's a means to revoking your ability to get guns that gun shops readily accept and identify.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 03/30/18 3:00:50 PM #103:	Solid Snake07 posted... Its not about whay necessary or not, it's about taking rights away from law abiding Americans. Something that shouldn't be taken lightly regardless of what side you're on here I do agree with not taking it lightly. Again, I'm not interested in banning all guns or repealing the right to bear arms. The point I'm interested in debating is where the line is drawn on what kind of weapons should be available to the public. That line already exists in that you can't buy full-auto weapons, bombs, rocket launchers, etc. I don't think that line is so unimpeachable that we can't even discuss it. --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:898773434] in Yet to hea... [t:76467393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Snake07 posted...</cite> <quote>Its not about whay necessary or not, it's about taking rights away from law abiding Americans. Something that shouldn't be taken lightly regardless of what side you're on here</quote> I do agree with not taking it lightly. Again, I'm not interested in banning all guns or repealing the right to bear arms. The point I'm interested in debating is where the line is drawn on what kind of weapons should be available to the public. That line already exists in that you can't buy full-auto weapons, bombs, rocket launchers, etc. I don't think that line is so unimpeachable that we can't even discuss it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 03/30/18 3:05:45 PM #104:	Mr_Biscuit posted... I do agree with not taking it lightly. Again, I'm not interested in banning all guns Banning all semi auto weapons, which is what you are arguing, effectively bans probably 80% of all the civilian guns out there. That is indeed taking it lightly. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 2 (1) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:898773700] in Yet to hea... [t:76467393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote>I do agree with not taking it lightly. Again, I'm not interested in banning all guns </quote> Banning all semi auto weapons, which is what you are arguing, effectively bans probably 80% of all the civilian guns out there. That is indeed taking it lightly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 03/30/18 3:06:49 PM #105:	Mr_Biscuit posted... Solid Snake07 posted... Its not about whay necessary or not, it's about taking rights away from law abiding Americans. Something that shouldn't be taken lightly regardless of what side you're on here I do agree with not taking it lightly. Again, I'm not interested in banning all guns or repealing the right to bear arms. The point I'm interested in debating is where the line is drawn on what kind of weapons should be available to the public. That line already exists in that you can't buy full-auto weapons, bombs, rocket launchers, etc. I don't think that line is so unimpeachable that we can't even discuss it. What do you believe the reasons are for the second amendment? Specifically, do you believe that the people being able to arm themselves in the event of tyrannical government is a legitimate reason for the second amendment? --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:898773752] in Yet to hea... [t:76467393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Snake07 posted...</cite> <quote>Its not about whay necessary or not, it's about taking rights away from law abiding Americans. Something that shouldn't be taken lightly regardless of what side you're on here</quote> I do agree with not taking it lightly. Again, I'm not interested in banning all guns or repealing the right to bear arms. The point I'm interested in debating is where the line is drawn on what kind of weapons should be available to the public. That line already exists in that you can't buy full-auto weapons, bombs, rocket launchers, etc. I don't think that line is so unimpeachable that we can't even discuss it.</quote> What do you believe the reasons are for the second amendment? Specifically, do you believe that the people being able to arm themselves in the event of tyrannical government is a legitimate reason for the second amendment?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 03/30/18 3:07:42 PM #106:	voldothegr8 posted... Mr_Biscuit posted... I do agree with not taking it lightly. Again, I'm not interested in banning all guns Banning all semi auto weapons, which is what you are arguing, effectively bans probably 80% of all the civilian guns out there. That is indeed taking it lightly. No, "taking it lightly" would be me being a politician and saying "let's just push this shit through instantly without having the debate." Being willing to have a discussion about it on gamefaqs.gamespot.com is not "taking it lightly," it's having a conversation. --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:898773795] in Yet to hea... [t:76467393]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote>I do agree with not taking it lightly. Again, I'm not interested in banning all guns </quote> Banning all semi auto weapons, which is what you are arguing, effectively bans probably 80% of all the civilian guns out there. That is indeed taking it lightly.</quote> No, "taking it lightly" would be me being a politician and saying "let's just push this shit through instantly without having the debate." Being willing to have a discussion about it on gamefaqs.gamespot.com is not "taking it lightly," it's having a conversation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsucaHayashi 03/30/18 3:11:43 PM #107:	DifferentialEquation posted... do you believe that the people being able to arm themselves in the event of tyrannical government isn't this like the first tyrannical government we've seen in ages and people are practically embracing him xd --- http://abload.de/img/pcgamingxtuvt.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9Yv0R2Z.jpg <cite>AsucaHayashi posted [p:898774001] in Yet to hea... [t:76467393]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>do you believe that the people being able to arm themselves in the event of tyrannical government</quote> isn't this like the first tyrannical government we've seen in ages and people are practically embracing him xd</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 03/30/18 3:12:59 PM #108:	Mr_Biscuit posted... If you want any form of gun control whatsoever, you need to also ban food or youre a hypocrite Do you people hear yourselves talk So you admit gun control is meant to lead to an all-out ban like you propose? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:898774073] in Yet to hea... [t:76467393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote>If you want any form of gun control whatsoever, you need to also ban food or youre a hypocrite Do you people hear yourselves talk</quote> So you admit gun control is meant to lead to an all-out ban like you propose?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 03/30/18 3:13:41 PM #109:	DifferentialEquation posted... What do you believe the reasons are for the second amendment? Specifically, do you believe that the people being able to arm themselves in the event of tyrannical government is a legitimate reason for the second amendment? I think the best current reason is for self-defense, though it was originally intended for well-organized militias and to be armed in the case of tyrannical government. On that note, for the second part of your question, I believe it was at the time, but I think that's extremely outdated and I find most arguments to the contrary to be a little lacking. The whole premise of AR-15s being even remotely effective in a resistance is usually based on the idea that most of the military would defect from the government, and if that's the case that the resistance would have most of the military on their side in the first place kinda makes it a non-factor. Not to mention it sounds a little bit like hero fantasy to me, but regardless. More to the point, I think the 2nd Amendment at its core (the right to bear arms) is worth preserving in one fashion or another for home defense. --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:898774109] in Yet to hea... [t:76467393]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>What do you believe the reasons are for the second amendment? Specifically, do you believe that the people being able to arm themselves in the event of tyrannical government is a legitimate reason for the second amendment? </quote> I think the best current reason is for self-defense, though it was originally intended for well-organized militias and to be armed in the case of tyrannical government. On that note, for the second part of your question, I believe it was at the time, but I think that's extremely outdated and I find most arguments to the contrary to be a little lacking. The whole premise of AR-15s being even remotely effective in a resistance is usually based on the idea that most of the military would defect from the government, and if that's the case that the resistance would have most of the military on their side in the first place kinda makes it a non-factor. Not to mention it sounds a little bit like hero fantasy to me, but regardless. More to the point, I think the 2nd Amendment at its core (the right to bear arms) is worth preserving in one fashion or another for home defense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 03/30/18 3:15:10 PM #110:	darkjedilink posted... Mr_Biscuit posted... If you want any form of gun control whatsoever, you need to also ban food or youre a hypocrite Do you people hear yourselves talk So you admit gun control is meant to lead to an all-out ban like you propose? ...what I'm not proposing an all-out ban of guns. Never once have. I'm proposing a potential form of gun control. YOU came back with "if you want that, then you also need to ban food or you're a hypocrite." That's the absolutely ludicrous thing that I was quoting. Stop trying to play "gotcha," you're no good at it. --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:898774186] in Yet to hea... [t:76467393]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote>If you want any form of gun control whatsoever, you need to also ban food or youre a hypocrite Do you people hear yourselves talk</quote> So you admit gun control is meant to lead to an all-out ban like you propose?</quote> ...what I'm not proposing an all-out ban of guns. Never once have. I'm proposing a potential form of gun control. YOU came back with "if you want that, then you also need to ban food or you're a hypocrite." That's the absolutely ludicrous thing that I was quoting. Stop trying to play "gotcha," you're no good at it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 03/30/18 3:18:28 PM #111:	AsucaHayashi posted... DifferentialEquation posted... do you believe that the people being able to arm themselves in the event of tyrannical government isn't this like the first tyrannical government we've seen in ages and people are practically embracing him xd This is also hilariously true to a degree, though I wouldn't say Trump is actually a tyrannical government at this point. He's the only one in ages and ages that has actually said things that would indicate that, though, like his offhand comments about how countries that keep a president forever are doing it right, the military parades, his proposal to seize all guns first, ask questions later, etc. It's not a blanket statement of truth that applies to everyone, but there's a lot of overlap between the "we need guns in case of a tyrannical government" crowd and the MAGA crowd. --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:898774351] in Yet to hea... [t:76467393]...</cite> <quote><cite>AsucaHayashi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>do you believe that the people being able to arm themselves in the event of tyrannical government</quote> isn't this like the first tyrannical government we've seen in ages and people are practically embracing him xd</quote> This is also hilariously true to a degree, though I wouldn't say Trump is actually a tyrannical government at this point. He's the only one in ages and ages that has actually said things that would indicate that, though, like his offhand comments about how countries that keep a president forever are doing it right, the military parades, his proposal to seize all guns first, ask questions later, etc. It's not a blanket statement of truth that applies to everyone, but there's a lot of overlap between the "we need guns in case of a tyrannical government" crowd and the MAGA crowd.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 03/30/18 3:36:39 PM #112:	Mr_Biscuit posted... Solid Snake07 posted... Its not about whay necessary or not, it's about taking rights away from law abiding Americans. Something that shouldn't be taken lightly regardless of what side you're on here I do agree with not taking it lightly. Again, I'm not interested in banning all guns or repealing the right to bear arms. The point I'm interested in debating is where the line is drawn on what kind of weapons should be available to the public. That line already exists in that you can't buy full-auto weapons, bombs, rocket launchers, etc. I don't think that line is so unimpeachable that we can't even discuss it. I don't think half ass measures like banning ar15s or bump stocks are gonna make much of a difference in America's gun violence problem. Its just gonna make people feel better because "at least we're trying" Hand guns are the most common weapon used in gun violence, and more often then not that gun was illegally obtained. Any legislation other than a hard ban isn't going to do anything really. Which I personally do not agree with. --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:898775256] in Yet to hea... [t:76467393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Snake07 posted...</cite> <quote>Its not about whay necessary or not, it's about taking rights away from law abiding Americans. Something that shouldn't be taken lightly regardless of what side you're on here</quote> I do agree with not taking it lightly. Again, I'm not interested in banning all guns or repealing the right to bear arms. The point I'm interested in debating is where the line is drawn on what kind of weapons should be available to the public. That line already exists in that you can't buy full-auto weapons, bombs, rocket launchers, etc. I don't think that line is so unimpeachable that we can't even discuss it.</quote> I don't think half ass measures like banning ar15s or bump stocks are gonna make much of a difference in America's gun violence problem. Its just gonna make people feel better because "at least we're trying" Hand guns are the most common weapon used in gun violence, and more often then not that gun was illegally obtained. Any legislation other than a hard ban isn't going to do anything really. Which I personally do not agree with.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paragon21XX 03/30/18 3:45:51 PM #113:	So because you believe that resisting a tyrannical US government today is essentially impossible, we should all just abandon the original intent of the 2nd Amendment which was that every able-bodied man would own a firearm and ammunition that was appropriate for military service (the equivalent today would be the AR-15 or some other STANAG-compatible rifle) that he would bring with him if called upon to serve in the militia if necessary? --- Hmm... <cite>Paragon21XX posted [p:898775745] in Yet to hea... [t:76467393]...</cite> <quote>So because you believe that resisting a tyrannical US government today is essentially impossible, we should all just abandon the original intent of the 2nd Amendment which was that every able-bodied man would own a firearm and ammunition that was appropriate for military service (the equivalent today would be the AR-15 or some other STANAG-compatible rifle) that he would bring with him if called upon to serve in the militia if necessary?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 03/30/18 4:15:32 PM #114:	Mr_Biscuit posted... darkjedilink posted... Mr_Biscuit posted... If you want any form of gun control whatsoever, you need to also ban food or youre a hypocrite Do you people hear yourselves talk So you admit gun control is meant to lead to an all-out ban like you propose? ...what I'm not proposing an all-out ban of guns. Never once have. I'm proposing a potential form of gun control. YOU came back with "if you want that, then you also need to ban food or you're a hypocrite." That's the absolutely ludicrous thing that I was quoting. Stop trying to play "gotcha," you're no good at it. How is 'I propose banning semi-automatic weapons - or at least 80 percent of all firearms in America - because I don't think you need them' NOT a ban on firearms? Like, seriously? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:898777330] in Yet to hea... [t:76467393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote>If you want any form of gun control whatsoever, you need to also ban food or youre a hypocrite Do you people hear yourselves talk</quote> So you admit gun control is meant to lead to an all-out ban like you propose?</quote> ...what I'm not proposing an all-out ban of guns. Never once have. I'm proposing a potential form of gun control. YOU came back with "if you want that, then you also need to ban food or you're a hypocrite." That's the absolutely ludicrous thing that I was quoting. Stop trying to play "gotcha," you're no good at it.</quote> How is 'I propose banning semi-automatic weapons - or at least 80 percent of all firearms in America - because I don't think you need them' NOT a ban on firearms? Like, seriously?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chicken 03/30/18 7:52:13 PM #115:	darkjedilink posted... Chicken posted... voldothegr8 posted... I don't need to give a compelling argument because the 2nd exists. My rights don't end where your feeling begin. And theres the comparison with the Quran. An outdated document tells us its okay so its okay. Without that 'outdated document,' you'd be in prison for this comment. lmao sorry I dont live in a shithole country that has the lives of their citizens dictated by an ancient piece of paper. --- https://i.imgur.com/2FgO73L.png <cite>Chicken posted [p:898788303] in Yet to hea... [t:76467393]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Chicken posted...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't need to give a compelling argument because the 2nd exists. My rights don't end where your feeling begin.</quote> And theres the comparison with the Quran. An outdated document tells us its okay so its okay.</quote> Without that 'outdated document,' you'd be in prison for this comment.</quote> lmao sorry I dont live in a shithole country that has the lives of their citizens dictated by an ancient piece of paper.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 03/30/18 7:55:25 PM #116:	I love guns, but I dont understand the massive boner over the 2nd amendment --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:898788460] in Yet to hea... [t:76467393]...</cite> <quote>I love guns, but I dont understand the massive boner over the 2nd amendment</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r4X0r 03/30/18 7:56:17 PM #117:	Samurontai posted... I love guns, but I dont understand the massive boner over the 2nd amendment Yet you seem to enjoy exercising your First Amendment rights however you want. --- I faced it all and I stood tall- And did it my way. <cite>r4X0r posted [p:898788497] in Yet to hea... [t:76467393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote>I love guns, but I dont understand the massive boner over the 2nd amendment</quote> Yet you seem to enjoy exercising your First Amendment rights however you want.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chicken 03/30/18 8:02:04 PM #118:	r4X0r posted... Samurontai posted... I love guns, but I dont understand the massive boner over the 2nd amendment Yet you seem to enjoy exercising your First Amendment rights however you want. Its retorts like this that make Americans sound like a cult. Jesus. --- https://i.imgur.com/2FgO73L.png <cite>Chicken posted [p:898788784] in Yet to hea... [t:76467393]...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote>I love guns, but I dont understand the massive boner over the 2nd amendment</quote> Yet you seem to enjoy exercising your First Amendment rights however you want.</quote> Its retorts like this that make Americans sound like a cult. Jesus.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 03/30/18 8:03:05 PM #119:	The AR-15 doesn't have to justify its existence to the law, the law has to justify its banning of it. <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:898788827] in Yet to hea... [t:76467393]...</cite> <quote>The AR-15 doesn't have to justify its existence to the law, the law has to justify its banning of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r4X0r 03/30/18 8:04:20 PM #120:	Chicken posted... r4X0r posted... Samurontai posted... I love guns, but I dont understand the massive boner over the 2nd amendment Yet you seem to enjoy exercising your First Amendment rights however you want. Its retorts like this that make Americans sound like a cult. Jesus. You can't understand the irony of somebody exercising their First Amendment rights to dump on somebody else's Second Amendment rights and not seeing the conflict of interest? What if somebody said... "I want anti gun speech banned. You don't NEED to say those things. I just want common sense speech control." Your response would of course be along the lines of "Woah woah WOAH, you can't infringe on my rights just because you decided I don't need them!" --- I faced it all and I stood tall- And did it my way. <cite>r4X0r posted [p:898788894] in Yet to hea... [t:76467393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Chicken posted...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote>I love guns, but I dont understand the massive boner over the 2nd amendment</quote> Yet you seem to enjoy exercising your First Amendment rights however you want.</quote> Its retorts like this that make Americans sound like a cult. Jesus.</quote> You can't understand the irony of somebody exercising their First Amendment rights to dump on somebody else's Second Amendment rights and not seeing the conflict of interest? What if somebody said... "I want anti gun speech banned. You don't NEED to say those things. I just want common sense speech control." Your response would of course be along the lines of "Woah woah WOAH, you can't infringe on my rights just because you decided I don't need them!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 03/30/18 8:09:36 PM #121:	Chicken posted... darkjedilink posted... Chicken posted... voldothegr8 posted... I don't need to give a compelling argument because the 2nd exists. My rights don't end where your feeling begin. And theres the comparison with the Quran. An outdated document tells us its okay so its okay. Without that 'outdated document,' you'd be in prison for this comment. lmao sorry I dont live in a shithole country that has the lives of their citizens dictated by an ancient piece of paper. Nah, you live in a shithole country that has the lives of their citizens dictated by refugees and thought police. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:898789141] in Yet to hea... [t:76467393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Chicken posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Chicken posted...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't need to give a compelling argument because the 2nd exists. My rights don't end where your feeling begin.</quote> And theres the comparison with the Quran. An outdated document tells us its okay so its okay.</quote> Without that 'outdated document,' you'd be in prison for this comment.</quote> lmao sorry I dont live in a shithole country that has the lives of their citizens dictated by an ancient piece of paper.</quote> Nah, you live in a shithole country that has the lives of their citizens dictated by refugees and thought police.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 03/30/18 8:13:07 PM #122:	RoboLaserGandhi posted... The AR-15 doesn't have to justify its existence to the law, the law has to justify its banning of it. And that's their problem - even without the Second Amendment, they can't. Their hateboner for it comes from its color and composite stock. Even the AR-15 body count can't justify a ban, so long as teens with cellphones drive. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:898789326] in Yet to hea... [t:76467393]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote>The AR-15 doesn't have to justify its existence to the law, the law has to justify its banning of it.</quote> And that's their problem - even without the Second Amendment, they can't. Their hateboner for it comes from its color and composite stock. Even the AR-15 body count can't justify a ban, so long as teens with cellphones drive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 03/30/18 8:24:04 PM #123:	Chicken posted... r4X0r posted... Samurontai posted... I love guns, but I dont understand the massive boner over the 2nd amendment Yet you seem to enjoy exercising your First Amendment rights however you want. Its retorts like this that make Americans sound like a cult. Jesus. Thats the problem. It is ingrained in parts of American culture that owning a gun is as essential as speaking and eating. Owning a gun is an inalienable right, but basic healthcare is not. Etc Its just how it is here. --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:898789846] in Yet to hea... [t:76467393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Chicken posted...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote>I love guns, but I dont understand the massive boner over the 2nd amendment</quote> Yet you seem to enjoy exercising your First Amendment rights however you want.</quote> Its retorts like this that make Americans sound like a cult. Jesus.</quote> Thats the problem. It is ingrained in parts of American culture that owning a gun is as essential as speaking and eating. Owning a gun is an inalienable right, but basic healthcare is not. Etc Its just how it is here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 04/01/18 7:29:36 AM #124:	darkjedilink posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... The AR-15 doesn't have to justify its existence to the law, the law has to justify its banning of it. And that's their problem - even without the Second Amendment, they can't. Their hateboner for it comes from its color and composite stock. Even the AR-15 body count can't justify a ban, so long as teens with cellphones drive. They don't need justifications for their legislation. Don't forget about this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban A pistol grip or bayonet lug could literally make the difference between something being an "assault weapon" and not being one Right now, no one who values the second amendment should feel complacent about it. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:898863742] in Yet to hea... [t:76467393]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote>The AR-15 doesn't have to justify its existence to the law, the law has to justify its banning of it.</quote> And that's their problem - even without the Second Amendment, they can't. Their hateboner for it comes from its color and composite stock. Even the AR-15 body count can't justify a ban, so long as teens with cellphones drive.</quote> They don't need justifications for their legislation. Don't forget about this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban A pistol grip or bayonet lug could literally make the difference between something being an "assault weapon" and not being one Right now, no one who values the second amendment should feel complacent about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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